Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions I...don't buy that entirely. I'm sorry. Most pirates are gonna pirate even if there are legit sources. That's what I've been trying to say. Some don't, and that's fine, but most do. Most want free stuff, not easy stuff, and since most free stuff is easy by default, it's a double whammy, and they jump on it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507466/#p507466 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @jade, there are a bunch of ways, removing the drm is not the only way. Not to give anyone any ideas... but here goes, as an example,Let's say I buy a audible book. On my pc I go to there sight, load the book, and before hitting play, I open goldwave, select internal speakers as recording device, hit record, then go back to the sight, press play and... well, leave the pc to do its stuff. Granted, there are far, far better apps to record audio output of your computer, audio hijack beeing a great tool, although I don't use it to record stuff I shouldn't, although i'm very tempted to at times. Also, while you lose a whole lot of revenue if people strip the drm and pass stuff around, you lose just as much if not more by protecting stuff with drm. You lose customers who have had it with owning drm protected stuff, plus, they lose a whole lot of money, given that said drm will be removed by someone anyway and posted out there. They should just... Having the records of who bought what and when. Using this, if, say, I buy, a book. Said book, has a piece of imbeted software / code that allows it to be tracked, so if I then where to share it with Jade, they could check their records and the tracker in the book, and see if jade bought it legitimately or not. Then the next step would be to sue said person who distributed copies of said book. Drm has its place, such as in streamable services, but on stuff you buy? No. This actually generates the piracy instead of preventing it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507458/#p507458 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @jade, there are a bunch of ways, removing the drm is not the only way. Not to give anyone any ideas... but here goes, as an example,Let's say I buy a audible book. On my pc I go to there sight, load the book, and before hitting play, I open goldwave, select internal speakers as recording device, hit record, then go back to the sight, press play and... well, leave the pc to do its stuff. Granted, there are far, far better apps to record audio output of your computer, audio hijack beeing a great tool, although I don't use it to record stuff I shouldn't, although i'm very tempted to at times. Also, while you lose a whole lot of revenue if people strip the drm and pass stuff around, you lose just as much if not more by protecting stuff with drm. You lose customers who have had it with owning drm protected stuff, plus, they lose a whole lot of money, given that said drm will be removed by someone anyway and posted out there. They should just... Having the records of who bought what and when. Using this, if, say, I buy, a book, share it with Jade, they could check a their records and see if jade bought it legitimately or not. Then the next step would be to sue said person who distributed copies of said book. Drm has its place, such as in streamable services, but on stuff you buy? No. This actually generates the piracy instead of preventing it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507458/#p507458 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @jade, there are a bunch of ways, removing the drm is not the only way. Not to give anyone any ideas... but here goes, as an example,Let's say I buy a audible book. On my pc I go to there sight, load the book, and before hitting play, I open goldwave, select internal speakers as recording device, hit record, then go back to the sight, press play and... well, leave the pc to do its stuff. Granted, there are far, far better apps to record audio output of your computer, audio hijack beeing a great tool, although I don't use it to record stuff I shouldn't, although i'm very tempted to at times. Also, while you lose a whole lot of revenue if people strip the drm and pass stuff around, you just just as much if not more by protecting stuff with drm. You lose customers who have had it with owning drm protected stuff, plus, they lose a whole lot of money, given that said drm will be removed by someone anyway and posted out there. They should just... Having the records of who bought what and when. Using this, if, say, I buy, a book, share it with Jade, they could check a their records and see if jade bought it legitimately or not. Then the next step would be to sue said person who distributed copies of said book. Drm has its place, such as in streamable services, but on stuff you buy? No. This actually generates the piracy instead of preventing it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507458/#p507458 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @jade, there are a bunch of ways, removing the drm is not the only way. Not to give anyone any ideas... but here goes, as an example,Let's say I buy a audible book. On my pc I go to there sight, load the book, and before hitting play, I open goldwave, select internal speakers as recording device, hit record, then go back to the sight, press play and... well, leave the pc to do its stuff. Granted, there are far, far better apps to record audio output of your computer, audio hijack beeing a great tool, although I don't use it to record stuff I shouldn't, although i'm very tempted to at times. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507458/#p507458 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions I mean let's be honest, open source tools like inaudible do exist. I use that to get my audible books into plain MP3 so I can listen to them on my victer reader stream. That method also had the added advantage of being able to split audiobooks into files based on chapter and such, so it works even better with the stream that way. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507445/#p507445 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions Also, if you could just download as MP3s, people would strip the DRM out of it if it still existed, and be able to pass it around. You lose huge, huge revenue that way if it's widespread enough. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507424/#p507424 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions That's why I don't use Audible. They require you to either listen with their app or through the site. If they just allowed people to download the books as MP3, I would probably use it. There's probably a good reason for it though, such as the whole credits thing. Credits would be useless if people could just download a book as MP3 and then return it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507404/#p507404 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions the approach stores are taking these days of just giving x account the right to read / watch stuff, just on that account after buying the product, buying, not renting; is completely stupid. Its as if you buy a physical computer but you can only use it at the store you bought it from. No taking it home... no nothing. That is what they are doing. Hell, they used to pull this shit with music back then... and they stopped. Ferthermore, I could well make this argument, I bought the movie from the itunes store, I could record it using software from my computer to watch it in another app. After all, I didn't rent, the movie, I bought it. As long as I don't distribute it, doing that is totally fine. But this approach... Gosh it annoys the fuck out of me. I get why they do it, they want to own the market, and whatnot but... Instead of atracting people and keeping people invested in said store, it does the exact opposite. Ah well; one day they'll learn. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507387/#p507387 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions the approach stores are taking these days of just giving x account the right to read / watch stuff, just on that account after buying the product, buying, not renting; is completely stupid. Its as if you buy a physical computer but you can only use it at the store you bought it from. No taking it home... no nothing. That is what they are doing. Hell, they used to pull this shit with music back then... and they stopped. Ferthermore, I could well make this argument, I bought the movie from the itunes store, I could record it using software from my computer to watch it in another app. After all, I didn't rent, the movie, I bought it. As long as I don't distribute it, doing that is totally fine. But this approach... Gosh it annoys the fuck out of me. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507387/#p507387 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions That aproach of that stores are taking of just giving x account for the right to read / watch stuff, just on that account, is completely stupid. Its as if you buy a physical computer but you can only use it at the store you bought it from. No taking it home... no nothing. That is what they are doing. Hell, they used to pull this shit with music back then... and they stopped. Ferthermore, I could well make this argument, I bought the movie from the itunes store, I could record it using software from my computer to watch it in another app. After all, I didn't wrent, the movie, I bought it. As long as I don't distribute it, doing that is totally fine. But this approach... Gosh it annoys the fuck out of me. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507387/#p507387 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions What I usually do is I buy DVDs of all movies I watch and then download them from the fault. I honestly would feel bad if I didn't do that. Oh and yes, I'm still using DVDs URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507377/#p507377 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions What I usually do is I buy a DVD's of all movies I watch and then download them from the fault. I honestly would feel bad if I didn't do that. Oh and yes, I'm still using DVD's URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507377/#p507377 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions Actually. Buying a movie from the Itunes store means you bought the rights to watch that movie on your account. You have not bought the movie itself. Annoying. I know. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507358/#p507358 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions drm is part of the main ishu as well for a lot of people as well. I mean, you buy the movie say, from the itunes store... and you can only play it in itunes. Period. Even though, you own the movie. Its just... That's one of my biggest issues with buying movies/ books. I now have bookshare so... I get most books from there anyway, but if drm was removed for stuff you owned, I would stop getting stuff say, from the audiovault, apart from older movies which canot be found with audio description. I don't do it because, hey, free stuff, my reason is, drm. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507341/#p507341 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions drm is part of the main ishu as well for a lot of people as well. I mean, you buy the movie say, from the itunes store... and you can only play it in itunes. Period. Even though, you own the movie. Its just... That's one of my biggest issues with buying movies/ books. I now have bookshare so... I get most books from there anyway, but if drm was removed for stuff you owned, I would stop getting stuff I could obtain legally. I don't do it because, hey, free stuff, my reason is, drm. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507341/#p507341 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions I believe the ADA covers some of this.However, it is not a retrograde document, I don't think, which is why a lot of older buildings and other things aren't forced to upgrade, or, when they are, are given a very broad time frame in which to do it.And I agree that this should have been done since the beginning. I am totally down with this.But...um, it wasn't done since the beginning. That's life. Women didn't have voting rights in the beginning. People of colour couldn't eat or even sit with whites in the beginning. Those things are awful, but they're done. We can't wipe away history.Some of the movies and TV shows and stuff that don't have audio description are because it would be a legal tangle to add it. In some cases, it's absolutely because it would cost more money when the franchise gets little or nothing back. How can you tell a capitalist to do something out of the goodness of their heart when it will cost them money? That's half the problem.In a perfect world, all of our media would have optional audio description, and that's just for starters. All of our buildings would be wheelchair-friendly. All of our public transport would be service-animal friendly as well. We still have a long way to go in a lot of ways.I guess my point here is that most of this is just sophistry, because I feel like even if this were all true, 60-75% of you would probably still use illicit services to get stuff for free because...well, free stuff.I guess just don't pretend that this is an access issue. You want what you want, and you don't want to pay for it, by and large. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507336/#p507336 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @31, nope, there is no section in the constitution (at least of the US) concerning discrimination. There is in the bill of rights and in the remaining amendments, but those do not take into account disabilities, and only concern voting and rights of women. There are provisions for disabilities in the U.S. code, but only in particular areas; this does not include motion pictures that you can stream over the internet or download from home, but only that which you can find in movie theaters. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507326/#p507326 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @31, nope, there is no section in the constitution (at least of the US) concerning discrimination. There is in the bill of rights and in the remaining amendments, but those do not take into account disabilities. There are provisions for disabilities in the U.S. code, but only in particular areas; this does not include motion pictures that you can stream over the internet or download from home, but only that which you can find in movie theaters. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507326/#p507326 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions Ok. Yes, audiovault is breaking the law by copyright. However, one could also argue that all the movies that don't have audio description, and the studios who refuse to provide it, are breaking the law as well. Someone correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't there a section in the united states and other countries constitution against descrimination? This whole, i'm not going to provide description for a movie because its old, or that they didn't provide it in the first place... Weather you want it or not; can be construded as discrimination. Essentially, they started this, weather it was by ignorance or discrimination, although at this point it sure as heck isn't ignorance anymore refusing to provide audio description for old movies... As I have said before, everything has consequences, this is what happens for not taking visually impaired people into consideration from the begining, as should have been the case in the first place. And by the way, fellows... Search for any movie you want say, on youtube, you'll find it. Sighted people do this type of thing as well. There are sights for with regular movies without audio description that break the copyright law as well, so no, its not just us. That's not to say it isn't right, its not. I'll go out on a limb here, but drm has a lot to do with copyright infringement aswell. Its the biggest, if not the second biggest reason why this happens. Anyway. Back to the topic at hand. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507321/#p507321 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions Ok. Yes, audiovault is breaking the law by copyright. However, one could also argue that all the movies that don't have audio description, and the studios who refuse to provide it, are breaking the law as well. Someone correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't there a section in the united states and other countries constitution against descrimination? This whole, i'm not going to provide description for a movie because its old, or that they didn't provide it in the first place... Weather you want it or not; can be construded as discrimination. Essentially, they started this, weather it was by ignorance or discrimination, although at this point it sure as heck isn't ignorance anymore refusing to provide audio description for old movies... As I have said before, everything has consequences, this is what happens for not taking visually impaired people into consideration from the begining, as should have been the case in the first place. And by the way, fellows... Search for any movie you want say, on youtube, you'll find it. Sighted people do this type of thing as well. There are sights for with regular movies without audio description that break the copyright law as well, so no, its not just us. That's not to say it isn't right, its not. I'll go out on a limb here, but drm has a lot to do with copyright infringement aswell. Its the biggest, if not the second biggest reason why this happens. Anyway. Bck to the topic at hand. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507321/#p507321 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions Ok. Yes, technically, audiovault is breaking the law by copyright. However, one could also argue that all the movies that don't have audio description, and the studios who refuse to provide it, are breaking the law as well. Someone correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't there a section in the united states and other countries against descrimination? This whole, i'm not going to provide description for a movie because its old, or that they didn't provide it in the first place... Weather you want it or not; can be construded as discrimination. Essentially, they started this, weather it was by ignorance or discrimination, although at this point it sure as heck isn't ignorance anymore refusing to provide audio description for old movies... As I have said before, everything has consequences, this is what happens for not taking visually impaired people into consideration from the begining, as should have been the case in the first place. And by the way, fellows... Search for any movie you want say, on youtube, you'll find it. Sighted people do this type of thing as well. There are sights for with regular movies without audio description that break the copyright law as well, so no, its not just us. That's not to say it isn't right, its not. I'll go out on a limb here, but drm has a lot to do with copyright infringement aswell. Its the biggest, if not the second biggest reason why this happens. Anyway. Bck to the topic at hand. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507321/#p507321 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions Ok. Yes, technically, audiovault is breaking the law by copyright. However, one could also argue that all the movies that don't have audio description, and the studios who refuse to provide it, are breaking the law as well. Someone correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't there a section in the united states and other countries against descrimination? This whole, i'm not going to provide description for a movie because its old, or that they didn't provide it in the first place... Weather you want it or not; can be construded as discrimination. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507321/#p507321 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions I never denied that and I am sure you are right. I just quite honestly don't care about it at all. There is far worse things to be concerned about imo. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507274/#p507274 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions The problem is that if we were to run analytics on who downloads what from that site, I bet you that we'd find many people downloading for free what they could otherwise be paying for.Oh sure, there are plenty of folks who don't have appropriate streaming services, or who are underage, or who legit can't find what they're after in legitimate ways. I have no doubt that this subset makes up a decent minority of users. But generally, I would be willing to bet that the fair majority (say 60-75%?) of people downloading stuff off the vault are 1. able to afford streaming services, or 2. able to get some or all of what they download from the vault from other legal and paid services.Now again, I don't care about this. Far be it for me to start howling about the choices people make when they aren't here. I don't think these people are disgusting or anything like that. I'm just saying they're breaking the law, and in so doing when other options are available, they're kind of spiking the wheels a bit. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507268/#p507268 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions I never said it wasn't violating copyright. What annoys me is these people acting like people using such sites are terrible human beings. You are not allowed to share links here. 100% fair. But as I just said. I am getting seriously tired of this people who are using the vault are basictly thiefs mindset.If I could get a movie with audiodescription by paying for it, I would most likely do it, but in some cases that is not possible. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507262/#p507262 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions Few things here:Using a moral argument to debunk a legal one usually doesn't work. So the "it ought to be legal" argument doesn't actually make something legal. As it happens, I believe that everyone should have equal access to media insofar as that's possible. This means that if the sighted have to pay ten bucks a month for it, then so should we. I mean, we could make an argument about the average income of a sighted adult vs. the average income of a visually impaired adult, but we -really start to nitpick there. But no matter how strong my belief is, that doesn't grant me license to break the law. If I do break the law in this regard, then I must accept the potential consequences. Maybe it's permissible. Maybe it's letter vs. spirit of the law. Maybe no one will know, and no one will get hurt. Fine. But don't pretend you aren't violating copyright if you use the vault, because at this stage, you absolutely are.I also want to come back to that equal access thing. The vault offers for free what a lot of sighted people actually have to pay money for, unless they, too, want to break the law. Just take a sec to consider that.Now, do I hate the site? Absolutely not. Do I think anyone who downloads a single copyrighted asset or torrent is awful? Again, no. Not a bit. I just think this whole attitude of passing the buck because it ought be okay is silly. Just accept that what you're doing is breach of copyright, and live with the consequences. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507257/#p507257 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions To be honnest, I sort of agree with that.Of course I'd rather pay for that, but the system doesn't give me access to all the content I may have if everything was correctly done. So if netflix provides it, of course I'll pick it on netflix, but otherwise...Best regard,Simon URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507240/#p507240 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions My country's constitution has incorperated the declaration of human rights. Included in those rights is a right to culture. This includes movies and tv of today, and if none of the providers of such content gives a shit about re-describing old movies and putting them up for easy aquisition, then fuck them. If they want my business, they'd better give me an insentive to get it, and if not, I'll just take it elsewhere. Like the vault. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507234/#p507234 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions Hi!Oh boy, I think none, absolutly none of the topics I've started since my first registration here have grown to such a debate.First things first :@2 I don't know who you are, I don't know which topic you're talking about, but one thing for sure : if tk stands for the killer, I'd never start a topic about this, since I'd rather... you know... talk about real games, enjoyable, interresting topics and such.@3 Thanks for jumping in my aid when people are jumping to conclusions, much appreciated too !And for the other posts that have things in common :I didn't know the mod's position was so obvious about the vault. Trust me I wouldn't have asked otherwise, and I certainly won't do it again . Sory about that.I'll use the provided e-mail then. I was aware of the searching feature, but hadn't seen the contact link.Thank you all for your answers and... you know... try to put things into perspective, there's nothing to argue about actually.Best regard,Simon URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507231/#p507231 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions I am not willing to listen I am afraid. I don't have a lot of munny to throw around so if I can get some enjoyment out of using the vault I will do it. I quite honestly don't feel bad about it. Must be my terrible personality that is showing, eh? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507217/#p507217 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @21, do what you like -- there's not much I can do about it. The only thing I can do is try to persuade you otherwise, but that can only work if your actually willing to listen. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507216/#p507216 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions In that case I shall be a bad boy and download a lot of stuf from there before it is too late. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507206/#p507206 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @19, its not bashing. The idea behind it is a good one, though it could've been done in a far more legal manner, even if it would've taken a lot longer. Plus, most of those tracks were acquired from BMMV, and the way they acquired them was, I have no doubt, entirely illegal. The only way BMMV has gotten away with it is that (1) no one has actually reported the site and given publishers login information, and (2) they've locked it behind an account system, preventing search engines from gaining access to it via indexing. There may be other ways, too, tha I don't know of, but both of the above points are the only way I can think of BMMV has managed to survive. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507205/#p507205 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @19, its not bashing. The idea behind it is a good one, though it could've been done in a far more legal manner, even if it would've taken a lot longer. Plus, most of those tracks were acquired from BMMV, and the way they acquired them was, I have no doubt, entirely illegal. The only way BMMV has gotten away with it is that (1) no one has actually reported the site and given publishers login information, and (2) they've locked it behind an account system, preventing search engines from gaining access to it via indexing. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507205/#p507205 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @19, its not bashing. The idea behind it is a good one, though it could've been done in a far more legal manner, even if it would've taken a lot longer. Plus, most of those tracks were acquired from BMMV, and the way they acquired them was, I have no doubt, entirely illegal. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507205/#p507205 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @19, its not bashing. The idea behind it is a good one, though it could've been done in a far more legal manner, even if it would've taken a lot longer. Plus, most of those tracks were acquired from BMMV, and the way they acquired those is unknownand highly questionable. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507205/#p507205 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @17, actually... yes, its copyright infringement. Please provide some evidence as to how you can actually prove that it isn't, instead of claiming its not just to claim its not. And your "what if" at the end doesn't do anything; its pure speculation, because we'll have no idea what any of us would do if we didn't have access to what we do now, because that's impossible to know. I'm not going to rehash the older arguments that I've raised in the past because I doubt you'll listen. A word of advice, however: assume, unless otherwise clearly stated, that works of authorship are protected under copyright law. Typically, a work is copyrighted as soon as it is created, even if the author did not intend for it to be. The author negates their hold to copyright by, say, placing the content into the public domain by licensing it under CC0. (Note that copyright protection is not available for any work of the United States Government, but the United States Government is not precluded from receiving and holding copyrights transferred to it by assignment, bequest, or otherwise. I don't know if this protection is in any other country though.) I will not go and rehash that old argument we had several months back. If you refuse to learn about copyright, or choose to ignore it, then it'll be your head -- and anyone else who runs the audio vault -- on the chopping block. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507203/#p507203 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions Lol all these guys bashing that site. Some people seems to be too proud of themselfs... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507204/#p507204 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @17, actually... yes, its copyright infringement. Please provide some evidence as to how you can actually prove that it isn't, instead of claiming its not just to claim its not. And your "what if" at the end doesn't do anything; its pure speculation, because we'll have no idea what any of us would do if we didn't have access to what we do now, because that's impossible to know. I'm not going to rehash the older arguments that I've raised in the past because I doubt you'll listen. A word of advice, however: assume, unless otherwise clearly stated, that works of authorship are protected under copyright law. Typically, a work is copyrighted as soon as it is created, even if the author did not intend for it to be. The author negates their hold to copyright by, say, placing the content into the public domain by licensing it under CC0. (Note that copyright protection is not available for any work of the United States Government, but the United States Government is not precluded from receiving and holding copyrights transferred to it by assignment, bequest, or otherwise. I don't know if this protection is in any other country though.) URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507203/#p507203 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @17, actually... yes, its copyright infringement. Please provide some evidence as to how you can actually prove that it isn't, instead of claiming its not just to claim its not. And your "what if" at the end doesn't do anything; its pure speculation, because we'll have no idea what any of us would do if we didn't have access to what we do now, because that's impossible to know. I'm not going to rehash the older arguments that I've raised in the past because I doubt you'll listen. A word of advice, however: assume, unless otherwise clearly stated, that works of authorship are protected under copyright law. Typically, a work is copyrighted as soon as it is created, even if the author did not intend for it to be. The author negates their hold to copyright by, say, placing the content into the public domain by licensing it under CC0. (Note that works of the united states government are not protected under copyright law, though have their own protections that are unrelated to copyright. I do not know if this kind of provision is in any other country, however.) URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507203/#p507203 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @17, actually... yes, its copyright infringement. Please provide some evidence as to how you can actually prove that it isn't, instead of claiming its not just to claim its not. And your "what if" at the end doesn't do anything; its pure speculation, because we'll have no idea what any of us would do if we didn't have access to what we do now, because that's impossible to know. I'm not going to rehash the older arguments that I've raised in the past because I doubt you'll listen. A word of advice, however: assume, unless otherwise clearly stated, that works of authorship are protected under copyright law. Typically, a work is copyrighted as soon as it is created, even if the author did not intend for it to be. The author negates their hold to copyright by, say, placing the content into the public domain by licensing it under CC0. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507203/#p507203 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @17, actually... yes, its copyright infringement. Please provide some evidence as to how you can actually prove that it isn't, instead of claiming its not just to claim its not. And your "what if" at the end doesn't do anything; its pure speculation, because we'll have no idea what any of us would do if we didn't have access to what we do now, because that's impossible to know. I'm not going to rehash the older arguments that I've raised in the past because I doubt you'll listen. Same argument for claiming to know or not to know that something is protected under copyright. A word of advice, however: assume, unless otherwise clearly stated, that works of authorship are protected under copyright law. Typically, a work is copyrighted as soon as it is created, even if the author did not intend for it to be. Te author negates their hold to copyright by, say, placing the content into the public domain by licensing it under CC0. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507203/#p507203 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @17, actually... yes, its copyright infringement. Please provide some evidence as to how you can actually prove that it isn't, instead of claiming its not just to claim its not. And your "what if" at the end doesn't do anything; its pure speculation, because we'll have no idea what any of us would do if we didn't have access to what we do now, because that's impossible to know. I'm not going to rehash the older arguments that I've raised in the past because I doubt you'll listen. Same argument for claiming to know or not to know that something is protected under copyright. A word of advice, however: assume, unless otherwise clearly stated, that works of authorship are protected under copyright law. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507203/#p507203 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions Hi, I think cartertemm's stance on this seems to be the best we can ask for, better than nothing or filters at least. @OP and others, If you want to know if a movie or a tv show has AD, you can use the search feature on the vault (use the second edit field), if you don't find the title you are looking for on there, you can always write to us on our email (can be found on the homepage) If you know that a movie or a show has Audiodescription, you can ask for it to be added if we don't have it, and we will try our best to get it. Post 2 seriously mate, you went waayy OT and your posts don't really contribute anything to the topic at all, ask yourself this before you post next, and if you have any issues with someone, bloody well sort them out in private. AT post 7 and others of similar ilc/ thought, as much as you'd like to toot that it is a pile of copywrite infringements as you put it, it clearly is not. The best thing that can be said for it is it's in a legal grey area. When AD tracks aren't available everywhere, and for many countries and people site like ours is the only way to get or access to such material, I personally along with many think it's the right thing to do, considering how much of a big part movies and tv shows are a part of our culture out there. I have said this before, and will say it again, I am sure many who are against it, and like to sit on that high horse and judge us all, you would be playing a different tune if you did mot live where you do, and have access to what you do or can get whenever you wish.Enough said on this.CheersGrryf URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507196/#p507196 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @15, true. Two wrongs don't make a right; but everything has consequences. The consequence of not giving a shit about accessibility movie and tv wise from the beginning, is exactly what you see today; sights like audio vault. If they had done that from the beginning, now that would be a whole different story, and though I give them points for amping up their game on audio descriptions, the damage has been done. If, say, all the movies which can be found in audio vault where to be taken into consideration by the studios tat made them, yes, old movies too, if audio description was added to them and published again in mainstream platforms with audio description, that would undo the damage and audio vault and other similar sights may become a thing of the passed, but... Not gunna happen. If this was actually going on, movies such as jaws, Transformers, just to mention a couple, but you can come up with your own examples; would have been incorporated with audio description. The truth is, that they don't really care, because all of that is, OLD CONTENT, acording to them, so screw it, which is not a right way to look at this, but, sadly it is what it is. Everything has its consequences, and no, the excuse, that blind people are a Minority doesn't work. Granted its true, but still. If accessibility had been taken into account from the very beginning, this would be way different. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507195/#p507195 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions 2 wrongs don't make a right. Although as it's been said 3 lefts make a right. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507172/#p507172 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions 2 wrongs don't make a right. Although as it's been said 3 lefts do make a right. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507172/#p507172 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @11 I never said post 3 was wrong, or that I don't deny it was a bad decision. The first part was very reasonable and if that was the end of the post, that would have made me think differently about it. However, she chose to continue and take it a step further. Don't try to call someone out for something, and do it yourself. Like correcting a spelling error and making a spelling error in your correction. I should have addressed both paragraphs, but I chose to address only the second. Which caused others to think that I was trying to defend my own post. I wasn't, I was just trying to address that you don't add onto the problem. Also her and I are not on good terms. I have no idea if that is part of the reason she replied, or if she would have done that to anyone.You have the same opinion as her, but you didn't try to add onto the problem, you phrased it in a reasonable way. She did, and then ruined the post. Talking about my mistakes is ok. Pointing it out is ok. Giving advice is ok. But that didn't happen here.Zarvox, you are making assumptions again, do research before assuming. That's fine. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507164/#p507164 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @7, and this, pile of copyright infringement, as you put it; wouldn't have started if they had thought of audio description from the beginning, so... Granted, i'm not saying its right, its not; but one has to take into account what started this. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507166/#p507166 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @7, and this, pile of copyright infringement wouldn't have started if they had thought of audio description from the beginning, so... Granted, i'm not saying its right, its not; but one has to take into account what started this. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507166/#p507166 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @11 I never said post 3 was wrong, or that I don't deny it was a bad decision. The first part was very reasonable and if that was the end of the post, that would have made me think differently about it. However, she chose to continue and take it a step further. Don't try to call someone out for something, and do it yourself. Like correcting a spelling error and making a spelling error in your correction. I should have addressed both paragraphs, but I chose to address only the second. Which caused others to think that I was trying to defend my own post. I wasn't, I was just trying to address that you don't add onto the problem. Also her and I are not on good terms. I have no idea if that is part of the reason she replied, or if she would have done that to anyone.You have the same opinion as her, but you didn't try to add onto the problem, you phrased it in a reasonable way. She did, and then ruined the post. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507164/#p507164 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @11 I never said post 3 was wrong, or that I don't deny it was a bad decision. The first part was very reasonable and if that was the end of the post, that would have made me think differently about it. However, she chose to continue and take it a step further. Don't try to call someone out for something, and do it yourself. Like correcting a spelling error and making a spelling error in your correction. I should have addressed both paragraphs, but I chose to address only the second. Which caused others to think that I was trying to defend my own post. I wasn't, I was just trying to address that you don't add onto the problem. Also her and I are not on good terms. I have no idea if that is part of the reason she replied, or if she would have done that to anyone. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507164/#p507164 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @11 I never said post 3 was wrong, or that I don't deny it was a bad decision. The first part was very reasonable and if that was the end of the post, that would have made me think differently about it. However, she chose to continue and take it a step further. Don't try to call something out for something, and do it yourself. Like correcting a spelling error and making a spelling error in your correction. I should have addressed both paragraphs, but I chose to address only the second. Which caused others to think that I was trying to defend my own post. I wasn't, I was just trying to address that you don't add onto the problem. Also her and I are not on good terms. I have no idea of that is part of the reason she replied, or if she would have done that to anyone. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507164/#p507164 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions Yes, but he specifically asked a question about whether the guy WAS the poster. He didn't declare, oh crap, he's the poster. A simple way to get over the issue, would of been just a plain "no." There was no need IMO to get up in Zarvox's face for asking a simple question. So what if he was the poster? You can't trust everyone on this forum these days. There's my opinion, tunmi13, out. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507159/#p507159 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions Yes, email or Discord them.Also... Xarvox, it's sort of ironic to me that you're saying her "attack" was unwarranted, when your comment contributed NOTHING to the conversation and is largely just clutter. You didn't even try to answer the question, you simply tried to stir things up URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507149/#p507149 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @9, what exactly does that have to do with anything? Thanks for proving my point though, much appreciated. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507144/#p507144 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @ 3 I would provide my research, but you deleted your I'm leaving topic it seems.Why are you still here? You said you were leaving. Also, I don't think you have much room to talk with having a fuck everyone attitude. So, don't attack me when you know you have problems of your own that are similar to this.Next time just say no he isn't, please do more observations. That is all that's needed, but you wanted to turn it into an attack with unnecessary comments. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507122/#p507122 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @ 3 ok here is my researchWhy are you still here? You said you were leaving. Also, I don't think you have much room to talk with having a fuck everyone attitude. So, don't attack me when you know you have problems of your own that are similar to this.Next time just say no he isn't, please do more observations. That is all that's needed, but you wanted to turn it into an attack with unnecessary comments. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507122/#p507122 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions **redacts my own post since I forgot that no links were actually passed around**My bad. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507089/#p507089 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @4We don't mind it being discussed, but would rather links not be passed around. I honestly think that's reasonable given the circumstances.To answer OP's question. You can find an email address on the site's main page. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507105/#p507105 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @4We don't mind it being discussed, but would prefer links aren't passed around. I honestly think that's reasonable given the circumstances.To answer OP's question. You can find an email address on the site's main page. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507105/#p507105 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @4, the mods are in a twist for a very good reason. They don't exactly have a choice, now do they? Doesn't help that the audio vault is a pile of copyright infringements... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507103/#p507103 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions They have an email on the site, just email them. There's also a search feature to see if something is already there. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507101/#p507101 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions @1 and @4: There are other blind community groups, you can discuss this elsewhere pretty easily. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507089/#p507089 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions Uh, no, he is not. Maybe try doing your own research before posting in future? You seem to have a habit of jumping to conclusions with little to no evidence to back them up, perhaps work on that as well? I'm sure I'm not the only one who frankly gets tired of your random, unnecessary, inflammatory comments. Knock it off.To answer OP's question, I'll have to check the website again, but I'm pretty sure there's a contact link or contact info somewhere on the main page. If not, you can always try contacting gryffindor via the forum, since he seems to be one of the main if not the main contributor.HTH. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507056/#p507056 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions Hi @1 I sent you a pm. For future reference, the mods have their collective panties in a twist about the vault and thus, don't like it being discussed in public on this forum. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507057/#p507057 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
Re: audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions Aren’t you the guy who wrote the tk topics URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507038/#p507038 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions
audiovault, suggesting or asking for specific audiodescriptions Hi !Is there a way to suggest a movie/tv show for the audiovault, or to ask if it even exists? I don't mean to submit an audiofile cause I don't have any unfortunatly, but I'm currently searching for a few, like the house that jack built by Lars von Trier, and I can't find it anywhere.Does anyone here have it?Best regard,Simon URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/507032/#p507032 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
