PhilNYC;158220 Wrote:
I thought setting the analog output to 63 was the equivalent of muting
it...?
You're probably right.
MC
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Now what?
Transporter Naim NAP 250 PMC OB1s.
Music catalog: http://modelcitizen.mine.nu/music.txt
Hi folks,
I was just asked about the audio quality of the Sonos system relative
to the Transporter. My answer was that from the little I can see on
the Sonos web site the Transporter seems to have made a stronger effort
for audiophile sound.
On my part it is mostly a guess. I have not listened
I added a Rotel RB1090 to power the BW speakers. Sounds quite nice.
Though I must admit that the Classe amp sounded even better, but that
one was more than twice as expensive :-)
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Currently I've got my speakers hooked up with unterminated 10-gauge
5T00UP (from Blue Jeans:
http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/speaker/index.htm). I was too lazy
to put on bananas and figured unterminated might give a better contact
anyway.
Is there some kind of contact cleaner I can use to
jmourik;158294 Wrote:
I added a Rotel RB1090 to power the BW speakers. Sounds quite nice.
Though I must admit that the Classe amp sounded even better, but that
one was more than twice as expensive :-)
Congratulations. Welcome to the Rotel club. Just a few questions.
Are you using the Denon
jmourik;158296 Wrote:
Is there some kind of contact cleaner I can use to keep the contact
points, both on speaker and amp side, clean and unoxidated? Or can I
just schpritz it with some trusty old wd40?
I use Caig Deoxit, which is American. They do a 'technician's survival
kit' which
jmourik;158294 Wrote:
I added a Rotel RB1090 to power the BW speakers. Sounds quite nice.
Though I must admit that the Classe amp sounded even better, but that
one was more than twice as expensive :-)
One of the problems of revealing speakers is that they really do
respond to the $$$ that
jmourik;158296 Wrote:
I was too lazy to put on bananas and figured unterminated might give a
better contact anyway.
Is there some kind of contact cleaner I can use to keep the contact
points, both on speaker and amp side, clean and unoxidated? Or can I
just schpritz it with some trusty
I have the SB3 digital volume on MUTE. But when I disable the Benchmark
volume via the switch on the back, I get no sound at all out of
speakers. So I have to use the Variable setting on the Benchmark, turn
the Benchmark vol. all the way up, then use the vol. control on my Ayre
integrated amp. I
atkinsonrr;158261 Wrote:
I would hope that modders could show some empirical, instrumented,
improvements.
Perhaps there are some modders out there doing that, but I (in my
limited experience with the modding community) have not seen it.
On the other hand, I wouldnt claim a modder is full
jhm731;158250 Wrote:
KimR said the Transporter doesn't sound any better than his SB3 off the
digital outputs.
Actually, what I said was that I couldn't tell the difference between
the Transporter digital out and the SB3 WHEN running the SB3 through
the $1500 Apogee Big Ben digital processor.
sc53;158316 Wrote:
I have the SB3 digital volume on MUTE.
Digital volume on the SB3 should be set to FIXED, not MUTE.
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sc53;158055 Wrote:
I'm going for great sound out of my SB3 so thought I'd ask the
experts...
In Player Settings|Audio there is a digital volume control, and preamp
volume control.
Preamp volume control only affects the analog output, so setting it to
63 (dB attenuation) will mute the
Cutting and restripping would be the most effective, as it's stranded
wire.
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This can replace BruteFIR and work under Mac
http://convolver.sourceforge.net/vst.html
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you can also get more info here
www.acourate.com
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I've just spoken to someone from Rayleigh Hi-Fi and we're going this
Friday. :)
They don't tend to deal with Rotel anymore - apparently, although the
equipment was good, their customer service was terrible, and customers
were left waiting for items.
They like the Arcam A70 amplifier a lot at
Pale Blue Ego;158188 Wrote:
EDIT: looks like C Crane is out of stock until Dec-12. Audio Advisor
has them though, same price.
PBE - Thanks for the pointers!
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I've spent almost a week now with the BolderSB2?PS Let me call it the B2
for short,OK?
I am very impressed with what Wayne has done with what was originally a
300.00 SB2. Although the cost of this set up matches or exceeds the cost
of the TP.
I hooked up the B2 into input 2 and set that input
ceejay;157914 Wrote:
I think this thread may have just broken the record for longest thread
without any disagreement on this forum... ;)
To inject the mandatory daily ration of disagreement, I quote Monty
Python:
No you didn't.
Yes I did.
No you didn't.
Yes I did.
This isn't an argument.
Yes
I second the motion for Caig Deoxit.
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You are write -- my post was poorly worded. I apologize for that.
atkinsonrr;158254 Wrote:
I appreciate your input here, as I think it may be coming from concern,
thinking there was something that he hadnt considered but should
probably consider before making a big financial decision.
This is by way of opening up a thread for personal introductions. Some
of us discussed as a fun method to get to know each other on a more
personal level and hopefully, to defuse some of the knee-jerk
reactions:
The rules so far:
1. You post about your music experience, your audio experience,
jmourik;158296 Wrote:
Currently I've got my speakers hooked up with unterminated 10-gauge
5T00UP (from Blue Jeans:
http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/speaker/index.htm). I was too lazy
to put on bananas and figured unterminated might give a better contact
anyway.
Is there some kind of
I'm not an audiophile, but I think this is the best place to find an
answer to my question...
I've been using my SB3 analog out to an 15-year-old Kenwood receiver
and been happy with that. That receiver just died and I picked up an
Onkyo TX-SR304 to replace it. I was considering using the
Well I seem to be early on the list :)
My current set-up is in my signature. I'm not a professional at
anything music- or hi-fi-related, although did work in a high-end
dealer many years ago.
I'm here as I got an SB3 - I used the forum to find out stuff
pre-purchase, and quite liked some of
The short answer is to try both connections and trust your ears.
The long answer is:
Some receivers digitize all the analog signals; this allows the
receiver to perform various digital processing. If this is the case,
then you have a situation where the SB3 DAC is used to decode to
analog, then
Why Highdudgeon?
Really, because I love opera and it is a wonderfully archaic word.
Think of Wotan skulking across the sage, dragging a spear, wearing a
hat with pointy horns, and actually trying to be serious and indignant.
Anyway, it is a word I like.
My name is George. As a disclaimer, I
rajacat;158389 Wrote:
Tom,
Thanks for the review.
Did you do any sound quality comparisons using the SB digital out into
a quality dac?
Raja
Not yet. I will also try taking the pre amp out of the equation.
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WD40 - No!
deoxit (+pro-gold or WALKER) = great!
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Tom,
The one thing you left out: what is the price of each item?
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Relax. It's about the music.
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highdudgeon;158400 Wrote:
Tom,
The one thing you left out: what is the price of each item?
Go to the Bolder website for pricing on the various mods.
http://www.boldercables.com/servlet/Search?category=MODIFICATIONS
Raja
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The 803s are nice speakers. They certainly look nice, too.
jmourik;144243 Wrote:
Well, I did :-) I really like them, went to listen to them yesterday and
bought a pair today. Also listened to some other speakers, vandersteen
model 2 and 3, Linn, McIntosh. Didn't like them as much as I did
Lucky you tomjtx! It's good that you don't find much difference between
the Transporter and the Bolder SB2.
For me, I like the voodoo sound of the Bolder SB2 more than the Good
Engineering sound of the TP. But that's just me.
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Hi, my name is Rob, and I'm an alcho er audiophile. I played trumpet
for a long time, and for the past year or two have been dabbling in
guitar, but I wouldnt call myself a musician. I got my start listening
to LPs of Cream or Pink Floyd or Clapton, in a garage with a bunch of
other high
Since I already own the SB3, I'm going for the full Bolder mods but
without the various options and the Ultimate power supply. With the
full mods I can experiment with various dacs or go without. Over the
next year I will see what other possible competitors to Slim Devices
develop to compete with
95bcwh;158415 Wrote:
Lucky you tomjtx! It's good that you don't find much difference between
the Transporter and the Bolder SB2.
For me, I like the voodoo sound of the Bolder SB2 more than the Good
Engineering sound of the TP. But that's just me.
I think it could also be what we get used
Guys
I've enjoyed the debate and had a bit of fun with the banter but Sean
I'm disappointed with your comment:
Quote:
Originally Posted by GaryG View Post
What facts would you like?
Lower impedence power supply.
Lower noise power supply.
Lower noise decoupling caps.
Point-to-point
highdudgeon;158400 Wrote:
Tom,
The one thing you left out: what is the price of each item?
I don't know exactly what I have.
Bolder SB2 with full mods 400.00+300.00 for SB?
Bolder nitro? power cord
Bolder power cord from PS to SB
Ultimate Power Supply 750.00
1 pair Bolder RCA IC's
I
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Question:
Here is an unortodox upgrade:
Take a music appreciation class, learn a bit about theory etc.
the most revealing sytem is the brain knowing what to hear(look) for
Pretty cheap upgrade too:-)
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Hello all.
Looking at the posts about the new Transporter I thought I would add my
experience (so far) to the mix.
I bought the Transporter in the end because I had heard only good
things about the SB and I wanted a network player so that I could avoid
my 1 year old daughter using my CD
were you streaming files to the TP or using it as a DAC, there is a big
difference in my system.
If you streamed files, were they lossless or full file or lossy mp3
If they weren't lossless or full file it's not an apples to apples
comparison.
Let us know and have fun.
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I'll play. My name is - well, my name is what you see so no need to
explain that one :). I've been tracking the squeezebox for a while and
only got into it a month or so ago. Experience wise - I'm a bit of a
'muso' having played in many bands over the years. Not really an
audiophile - and tend to
Ok, I'll play!
My name is Phil, and I'm an audio dealer located in Northern NJ. My
screen name is PhilNYC because I used to live in NYC, and I didn't feel
like changing my name to PhilNJ on the dozen or so audio forums I've
participated on past and present.
I first started here on the SD forum
Impeller;158351 Wrote:
They don't tend to deal with Rotel anymore - apparently, although the
equipment was good, their customer service was terrible, and customers
were left waiting for items.
This is important. Even the best products can fail, so excellent
customer service is important
tomjtx
were you streaming files to the TP or using it as a DAC, there is a
big difference in my system. If they weren't lossless or full file it's
not an apples to apples comparison.
I was using my TP as is streaming lossless WAV files to it. So the
comparision was between the TP and the Arcam
jonheal;158013 Wrote:
Here are some of my annoying traits:
- I interrupt people when they're talking
- I don't listen well
- I often don't give people the benefit of the doubt
- I'm often negative
- I'm selfish
I hear you're also lactose intolerant and like milkshakes.
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thanks for the clarification
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I thought you were going away?
P Floding;158002 Wrote:
Unlike you I sure as hell don't have time to read all postings here. I
read the initial one, and answered that. I hope that explains things
for you? I don't think this forum works exactly because you and others
demand everyone to be in
Chris,
Your weakest component -- no offense -- are your speakers. Honestly,
the differences between some of these sources will be negligible to
non-existent unless you have significantly superior speakers, speakers
that are set up properly, etc. In your case, a Squeeze Box might be
all you
GaryG;158427 Wrote:
Guys
Anyway, enough of the waffle, I've had an email from somebody offering
to let me hear a Transporter so I've taken up the offer. Thanks for
your comments guys, if anybody's interested in hearing how it compares
let me know.
Regards
Gary
Hi Gary,
Good luck with
GaryG;158427 Wrote:
For example, I used to use squash balls under all my equipment (42 of
them under the Wadia alone to take the weight!), which sit on
ClearAudio RDC Super Postion Platform shelves which sit on Mana
reference tables, which sit on 6 Mana Soundstages. I tried using
Gary, thank you for being even wierder than I :-)
Now I don't feel so strange putting my TP on acrylic wheels on a
microscan table.
Hey, it was sitting around, I never even bought it, a dealer friend
left it here 10 years ago, every time he is over he says he going to
take it but I always give
I'd like to make an observation about the change in attitude we've seen
from Sean. Not very long ago, his postings were just about as friendly
as you could possibly hope to read. His tolerance of pretty much every
tweak and mod to the SB, no matter how nutty, was absolutely
remarkable. Recently,
highdudgeon;158462 Wrote:
Your weakest component -- no offense -- are your speakers. Honestly,
the differences between some of these sources will be negligible to
non-existent unless you have significantly superior speakers, speakers
that are set up properly, etc. In your case, a Squeeze
Given the cost, a real deal-breaker for me, other than long-term product
support, would be aesthetics. And, no, this is not because I am a
retailer.
I had a SB3 running into the rather industrial-looking Lavry DA10.
Now, the SB3, while cute, is not exactly the loveliest bit of gear.
Throw
In the 3rd brane my name is )(^^##%*(*))) but just call me Tom.
I have the following:
Speakers: Swillsome Audio Amp/Guppies
Electronics: Stiff'm Roll'em Design Group
XTC cables
PhatDevices Incinerator and SneezeBox30 designed by Con Madman
Milder Cables Penultimate Power Supply
Sinn
I have been wondering about the KEF speakers as well. They are a bit of
a baby hazard really and if I could get a similar or better sound out
of something else of a similar price I would be quite happy. One pain I
have found is actually testing out the TP - it is a bit difficult to
take down to a
cliveb;158467 Wrote:
I'd like to make an observation about the change in attitude we've seen
from Sean.
Actually, I just stopped taking my pills. :)
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cdmein;158476 Wrote:
One pain I have found is actually testing out the TP - it is a bit
difficult to take down to a hi-fi shop.
Chris
I know; you need to bring a server as well! Actually a laptop should do
nicely. You only need to bring your favorite 15-20 albums - in FLAC that
is around
Impeller;158351 Wrote:
(some of which are, again, over our budget, but hey... I can always say
'no'. Right?).
Have fun. But keep a tight hold on your credit card: going into an
expensive toyshop can be bad for your wealth! Ever been to a timeshare
presentation? ;)
Ceejay
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Amen.
Now, I will go take some pills.
tomjtx;158482 Wrote:
Where else would the CEO take the time to respond and explain so much
about his product?
This is what I love about this company.
it's refreshing, Sean, to hear you speak with candor and honesty re.
the TP.
I would be
cliveb;158467 Wrote:
I'd like to make an observation about the change in attitude we've seen
from Sean.
Well, I don't see that: Sean has always been proud of his designs and
baffled by why people think they need $1000 power cords...
But that said, the real change I noticed was that people
I have a fully modded and stock Transporter. I haven't done any
critical A/Bing, nor do I really intend to, but, for what its worth,
they both sound fantastic as transports.
Living in Los Altos, I'd be happy to bring them by SD if someone over
there wants to compare them.
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tomsi42;158301 Wrote:
Congratulations. Welcome to the Rotel club.Thank you :-)
tomsi42;158301 Wrote:
Are you using the Denon as a pre-amp? Should be interesting to compare
that to the Rotel RC-1070 pre-amp.Yes, Denon is pre-amp and used for the
surround channels. I did actually
hear a
Cool, this is what I ordered:
DeoxIT® DN5 Mini Spray, 5%, nonflammable, quick dry - non drip, 14
grams, clamshell packaging
DeoxIT® GOLD GN5 Mini Spray (formerly ProGold), 5% solution,
nonflammable, quick dry - non drip, 14 grams, clamshell packaging
Hope that's OK :-)
jan
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Sleestack;158513 Wrote:
I have a fully modded and stock Transporter. I haven't done any
critical A/Bing, nor do I really intend to, but, for what its worth,
they both sound fantastic as transports.
Living in Los Altos, I'd be happy to bring them by SD if someone over
there wants to
tomjtx;158525 Wrote:
Who modded your TP and do you know what the mods are?
I'm hoping 'TP' isn't the best nickname we can come up with for the
Transporter. :)
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Jim
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JJZolx;158528 Wrote:
I'm hoping 'TP' isn't the best nickname we can come up with for the
Transporter. :)
O yeh, i just got it , sorry...
But a good slogan:
Wipe away the grunge with TP
Sean, I'll let you know where to send the royalties
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tomjtx;158525 Wrote:
Who modded your TP and do you know what the mods are?
The mods to Sleestack's TP were done by Aberdeen(mauimods.com).
If you're interested, I suggest you contact him directly for more
details.
PS- Sean, glad to hear you're off the pills. Send the leftovers to
George.
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jhm731;158555 Wrote:
The mods to Sleestack's TP were done by Aberdeen(mauimods.com).
If you're interested, I suggest you contact him directly for more
details.
PS- Sean, glad to hear you're off the pills. Send the leftovers to
George.
Yes it was. Anthony does all of my TACT ger and
Interesting thread for me. Thanks to all the contributors. I have BW
804 mains center + BW 805 rears for the AV part. Also a Velodyne
DD15 sub. Just added a Transporter. But running it all off a Denon 3805
AVR. For TP into the 3805 I normally run in 'pure stereo' mode. I first
heard the BW's
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