Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] upgrade advice for nad 320bee and BW currently

2007-10-27 Thread opaqueice
Changing the source or the amp won't have any effect on the bass. If you want more bass you need bigger speakers, a subwoofer, or equalization. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Bolder Mods

2007-10-27 Thread liffy99
Recently had one of my SB3s upgraded (basic digital only) by Bolder Cables so thought I'd share my experience. Rest of system is SB3 digital output to Lyngdorf DAC (part of TDA2200 amp) into Martin Logan Prodigies. I'm UK based. First off, and as I commented to the very helpful Wayne at Bolder,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 or Transpoter vs. DLNA receivers : sound quality

2007-10-27 Thread S2K
It has already started. Have a look at the Arcam FMJ MS250 probebly close to 5000 dollar. Here in the Netherlands it costs 4500 euro. http://www.arcam.co.uk/prod_fmj_ms250_intro.cfm Regarding DLNA. Before a bought my transporter I've considered buying a Denon AVR4306 when it first came out. I

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Annoying tick when fridge turns on/off

2007-10-27 Thread S2K
Whenever I’m listening to my Transporter I hear a very irritating tick in the music when my fridge is switching on or off. The Fridge and my audio equipment are on the same power group. The audio is connected to a power block (don´t know the proper word) which is supposed to filter the mains for

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel audio on Transporter?

2007-10-27 Thread ianr
Not sure if I'm just being a niche customer, but does anyone else feel that Slim/Logitech should consider a Transporter that would handle multichannel audio (DVD-A etc)? The benefit would extend also to those who have integrated their home theatre with their listening system as I could use the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter w. Gallo Ref 3.1 - Anyone?

2007-10-27 Thread ianr
Just wondering if anyone here is running Gallo Reference 3.1 speakers with their TP. Comments? I heard these speakers driven by an airport express and was underwhelmed. Voices seemed recessed which doesn't seem to coincide with the many reviews I've read. A source problem? Oh,was playing high

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel audio on Transporter?

2007-10-27 Thread S2K
ianr;238296 Wrote: Not sure if I'm just being a niche customer, but does anyone else feel that Slim/Logitech should consider a Transporter that would handle multichannel audio (DVD-A etc)? The benefit would extend also to those who have integrated their home theatre with their listening

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter w. Gallo Ref 3.1 - Anyone?

2007-10-27 Thread S2K
ianr;238301 Wrote: Just wondering if anyone here is running Gallo Reference 3.1 speakers with their TP. Comments? I heard these speakers driven by an airport express and was underwhelmed. Voices seemed recessed which doesn't seem to coincide with the many reviews I've read. A source

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter w. Gallo Ref 3.1 - Anyone?

2007-10-27 Thread ErikM
The better the speakers the better they will let you hear the flaws up stream of them. Yes I've listened to Gallo's they sounded great driven with a Meridian front end and electronics. -- ErikM ErikM's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel audio on Transporter?

2007-10-27 Thread cliveb
S2K;238306 Wrote: If you feed the Transporter with a digital signal from your DVD nothing happens. It will not decode AC3 or DTS. You can feed it a PCM stream though available on some music DVD´s. Don't know if my DVD player is peculiar (it's a cheap Cambridge Audio model), but it is set up

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] upgrade advice for nad 320bee and BW currently

2007-10-27 Thread davidcotton
You don't mention if the speakers are on stands. If not get a good pair and see what difference that makes first. -- davidcotton davidcotton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4588 View this

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel audio on Transporter?

2007-10-27 Thread inguz
ianr;238296 Wrote: Not sure if I'm just being a niche customer, but does anyone else feel that Slim/Logitech should consider a Transporter that would handle multichannel audio (DVD-A etc)? Cozy niche, I like it. If I want lossless multichannel output from PC-based sources (and I do), the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter w. Gallo Ref 3.1 - Anyone?

2007-10-27 Thread inguz
What was the room like? I had Gallos (and a good friend of mine still has) and they really are very good. But you need to be very careful of early reflections (and ideally have a fairly big room) to make the best of them. For example mine needed to sit quite close to walls, and side panels per

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter w. Gallo Ref 3.1 - Anyone?

2007-10-27 Thread ianr
S2K;238307 Wrote: I don't know how these speakers sound so I can’t comment on that. When you're testing speakers at least use a decent source. An airport express doesn’t sound any better than your average onboard soundcard. Funny though that someone has a setup with serious speakers and a 2

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter w. Gallo Ref 3.1 - Anyone?

2007-10-27 Thread S2K
ianr;238324 Wrote: The system was using the DACs in an Arcam AVR350 (optical out from AE). In this case, the AE is just a transport I think. Perhaps a better question is whether the DACs inthe transporter will best those of the Arcam? Imo difference between the Arcam and Transporter or any

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Annoying tick when fridge turns on/off

2007-10-27 Thread SuperQ
S2K;238292 Wrote: Whenever I’m listening to my Transporter I hear a very irritating tick in the music when my fridge is switching on or off. The Fridge and my audio equipment are on the same power group. The audio is connected to a power block (don´t know the proper word) which is supposed

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?

2007-10-27 Thread ar-t
Phil Leigh;184095 Wrote: No optical is NOT inferior and is used extensively in certain professional circumstances. At the frequencies and distances involved in domestic digital applications this is a non-issue. In fact I would go as far as to say that optical is preferable in many

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 interference due to titanium dental implant?

2007-10-27 Thread tyler_durden
TPost;238192 Wrote: Is there a remote possibility of the contents of this post being true? You are scaring me!:) Why, do you have an implant? TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Bolder Mods

2007-10-27 Thread tyler_durden
liffy99;238257 Wrote: The differences aren't night and day, and don't show up that well on A/B comparison, but just relax and you'll soon hear the difference. I think that says it all. It is very much like the psychics who can't work their miracles under scientific test conditions because

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Annoying tick when fridge turns on/off

2007-10-27 Thread tyler_durden
The noise comes from the compressor motor. When the fridge turns on there is a sudden, large inrush of current because the motor looks like a huge capacitor. That surge puts a transient spike on the power line that is finding it's way into your system. The best thing to do would be to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-10-27 Thread cgull
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Bolder Mods

2007-10-27 Thread jeffmeh
tyler_durden;238348 Wrote: I think that says it all. It is very much like the psychics who can't work their miracles under scientific test conditions because the effect is shy. If everyone involved just takes a few deep breaths, suspends their critical thought processes, and puts their

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?

2007-10-27 Thread opaqueice
ar-t;238344 Wrote: It is inferior, and it is not a myth. You are grossly uninformed. Pat, do you think it makes an audible difference? Going into a Benchmark DAC1 I can't hear any change; same with a NOS DAC I experimented with. -- opaqueice

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Volume regulation of transporter?

2007-10-27 Thread tomjtx
S2K;238295 Wrote: Thank you all for explaining how the volume control works. I have a question though. When playing 16bit audio there is a headroom of 8 bits to do the volume control, this is clear. Can anyone explain what happens when I play 24bit content on my Transporter? I'm planning

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 interference due to titanium dental implant?

2007-10-27 Thread tomjtx
darrenyeats;238234 Wrote: Hens teeth! (BTW that's a British expression of surprise...I'm not advising you to actually, you know kill some hens...although *maybe*...if you happened to try it remember to report back.) You mean the hen killing mod? You haven't tried that yet? The difference

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Bolder Mods

2007-10-27 Thread liffy99
Ouch ! But I stand by my own observations (and my other half, who doesn't listen anywhere near as much as I do, walked in and said that sounds clearer to a well-known track). I have tried using a linear power supply as opposed to the wall wart and could not reliably tell a difference so please

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?

2007-10-27 Thread ar-t
opaqueice;238369 Wrote: Pat, do you think it makes an audible difference? Going into a Benchmark DAC1 I can't hear any change; same with a NOS DAC I experimented with. That is actually a darn good question. A DAC that has all sorts of fancy reclocking and stuff may not sound much

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 digital output quality

2007-10-27 Thread ar-t
mlihl;237387 Wrote: Hi Pat, I'm about to remove the output inductors L8/L9 on the SB3 board and install a 75R BNC digital output. Please forgive me the stupid question but where do I wire BNC+...would it have to be soldered to the resistor divider upstream? I'm a little bit confused now

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital Amps

2007-10-27 Thread ar-t
Could be Bruno. Could be some other guys at some other company as well. Trust me, all of them get upset when you call them digital. Pat -- ar-t http://www.analogresearch-technology.net ar-t's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My experience implementing John Swenson's Synchronous Reclocking Circuit

2007-10-27 Thread RioTubes
I must confess I am at a loss as to what these posts on spdif have to do with this thread...since here we are discussing transmission using i2s and left justified format. There is no spdif anywhere in the circuit A to Z. -- RioTubes

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital Amps

2007-10-27 Thread iPhone
The letter D used to designate this amplifier class is simply the next letter after C, and does not stand for Digital. Class D and Class E amplifiers are sometimes mistakenly described as digital because the output waveform superficially resembles a pulse-train of digital symbols, but a Class D

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital Amps

2007-10-27 Thread Pat Farrell
iPhone wrote: The letter D used to designate this amplifier class is simply the next letter after C, and does not stand for Digital. Thank you, it drives me nuts when folks think that there is meaning to the topology letters. Class A does not mean best etc. I think the future holds an

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter w. Gallo Ref 3.1 - Anyone?

2007-10-27 Thread ianr
opaqueice;238370 Wrote: I went and listened to them at a high end shop and was very unimpressed, particularly by the treble. I agree with you about voices, and piano sounded thin. The bass, on the other hand, was quite good. I had high expectations after reading so many good reviews and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel audio on Transporter?

2007-10-27 Thread ianr
inguz;238321 Wrote: Cozy niche, I like it. If I want lossless multichannel output from PC-based sources (and I do), the SB/Tranporter hardware is no use. If I want multi-amplification with PC-based active crossovers (and I do), the SB/Transporter hardware is no use... So I want an

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel audio on Transporter?

2007-10-27 Thread Pat Farrell
ianr wrote: Suggestions anyone for how to accomplish this on a reasonable (2k) budget? Is it hopeless? The pro audio world has a lot of 6 and 8 channel I/O adapters that are in your price range. I've got a couple of M-Audio Delta 1010 devices in my studio. They can drive 8 channels

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Parametric Equalizer?

2007-10-27 Thread darrenyeats
PS: Also I applied a small and gradual roll-off in the treble (matter of taste). -- darrenyeats SB3 / Inguz - Krell KAV-300i (pre bypass mode) - PMC AB-1 Dell laptop - JVC UX-C30 mini system darrenyeats's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What to upgrade next to improve sound quality ?

2007-10-27 Thread auronthas
Thanks all for your viewpoint. I have made several listening test on various speakers for the past few days. At the end I still prefer Sonus Faber Concertino Domus based on my music preference and budget. I had traded in my old AE Aegis Evo One with new SF for $1050. -- auronthas Auronthas

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Power Supply

2007-10-27 Thread Eric Seaberg
I bought two of these for my SB3s. Neither one came with the printed circuit boards, so they had to ship those. I put the first one together last night and discovered the power cord is too big to fit through the supplied strain relief, so I went to my neighborhood hardware store and bought two

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-10-27 Thread S2K
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Welborne Power Supply for SB3

2007-10-27 Thread Eric Seaberg
I bought two of these for my SB3s. Neither one came with the printed circuit boards, so they had to ship those. I put the first one together last night and discovered the power cord is too big to fit through the supplied strain relief, so I went to my neighborhood hardware store today and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Welborne Power Supply for SB3

2007-10-27 Thread RioTubes
I haven't built this but I looked at what is published on Welborne's site. It looks like the entire psu including transformer is mounted on the circuit board which is isolated from the aluminum enclosure. Do you have the safety earth pin of the IEC connector referenced to the aluminum chassis?

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Welborne Power Supply for SB3

2007-10-27 Thread Eric Seaberg
Welborn does ship a grounded AC plug/cable but doesn't use the ground. They actually state in the directions to trim it back to the strain relief and use only the HOT and NEUTRAL wires. I'll attempt connecting the chassis to the gnd of the +5 output to see if that helps. -- Eric Seaberg

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What to upgrade next to improve sound quality ?

2007-10-27 Thread westernboy
auronthas;238418 Wrote: Thanks all for your viewpoint. I have made several listening test on various speakers for the past few days. At the end I still prefer Sonus Faber Concertino Domus based on my music preference and budget. I had traded in my old AE Aegis Evo One with new SF for

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What to upgrade next to improve sound quality ?

2007-10-27 Thread ob_kook
westernboy;238447 Wrote: I'm currently working on some DIY sound absorption panels to tame some of the anomalies in my listening room - I'll eventually post my findings on this forum. I agree. I think that room treatment gets overlooked a lot of times when considering upgrades. I've got a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What to upgrade next to improve sound quality ?

2007-10-27 Thread auronthas
Pat Farrell;237083 Wrote: IMHO, no speaker should be put on a bookshelf, no matter what the marketing stuff says. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ Bookshelf type speaker = standmount type speaker :) -- auronthas Auronthas Digital Sources: Squeezebox 3 / Cambridge Audio