[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise level of SB3

2006-12-25 Thread Ron F .
Sean, if the Transporter measures up to the specs you have published for it, then yes it will smoke my NAD CD player, and most other CD players to boot. -- Ron F. Ron F.'s Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise level of SB3

2006-12-24 Thread Ron F .
opaqueice;164423 Wrote: If you replace the SB by a CD player or other source (using the *same cables and the same inputs*), do you get a significantly lower level of hiss? By the way, when you say there is a lot of hiss, do you mean when the SB is idle, or when it's playing something?

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise level of SB3

2006-12-24 Thread seanadams
Ron F.;164758 Wrote: When I was comparing the noise floor of my SB3 with my CD player, (which is a NAD C542 by the way,) I was using identical cables via another input on my preamp. I tried swapping the inputs on the preamp, and the noise floor followed the SB3. I tried unplugging the CD

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise level of SB3

2006-12-23 Thread rplert
I am not an engineer so I hesitate to make this statement, but I think that you may have a mismatch between the gain that is being applied by the SB3 and the gain of your amp. Even very high end pre-amps that are very high gain will match poorly with high-gain and high sensitity power amps.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise level of SB3

2006-12-23 Thread tyler_durden
I seem to recall a post many months ago when Sean Adams stated that the SB3 performs best with the display on bright. IIRC, it was something about how when the display is off or dimmed the input to the DC-DC converter that powers both the display and the analog circuits approaches its minimum

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise level of SB3

2006-12-22 Thread USAudio
I think the key point here is that the hiss only seems to occur when the SB3 is connected directly to an amplifier (not an integrated amp) using the SB3's analog outputs. I also have noticed a significant amount of hiss with the SB3 plugged directly into my PSAudio Trio A-100. However if I

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise level of SB3

2006-12-22 Thread Skunk
USAudio;164326 Wrote: Has anyone found a solution to this problem? Someone (not from Slim) suggested setting display brightness to zero/off when idle. Then it wakes back up when you hit any button. As much as I like the VU meters, I find this to be the most aesthetically pleasing setting

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise level of SB3

2006-12-22 Thread USAudio
Skunk;164334 Wrote: Someone (not from Slim) suggested setting display brightness to zero/off when idle. Then it wakes back up when you hit any button. As much as I like the VU meters, I find this to be the most aesthetically pleasing setting as well. Of course, YMMV. Thanks Skunk but I

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise level of SB3

2006-12-22 Thread empty99
USAudio;164362 Wrote: Thanks Skunk but I already have the display off when idle, no go, still hisses. I also use well shielded interconnects. Seems to be an issue that can only be addressed by Slim with a software or running hardware change? If so, I did looped the RJ-45 around a ferrite

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise level of SB3

2006-12-22 Thread Ron F .
I had a similar experience - a surprising amount of hiss being heard emanating from the SB3 analog outputs compared to my CD player's analog outputs. I would guess the difference was about 15 dB. This was evident when turning my preamp volume control up to about 12 o'clock - a position that is

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise level of SB3

2006-12-22 Thread Skunk
USAudio;164397 Wrote: It would be sure nice to hear directly from SlimDevices if the DAC is indeed the cause of the hiss and if the issue can/is-going-to be addressed or not? They will probably ask what you're using for external attenuation before the power amp, since that's the recommended

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise level of SB3

2006-10-12 Thread peejay
ceejay;145319 Wrote: I'm a little puzzled by this discussion (I could say I don't have this problem, but that might not be seen as helpful!). One thing that has been noted before is that, without external attentuation, the SB does have a rather higher output level than many other devices:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise level of SB3

2006-10-12 Thread joncourage
I only say this in order to let you know that perhaps indeed you have a problem elsewhere in your signal chain, but fact is I get absolutely no noise - 0 - when no music plays or during silent passages, regardless of how loud my amp is turned up (110w). (Not to be dismissive; again, just to

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise level of SB3

2006-10-11 Thread peejay
dcolak;144915 Wrote: I am using the audio outs of my SB3. It's not the white noise bug that people were talking about, I had no problems like that. It's exactly as you described the noise floor, I've turned my amp all the way to the max and paused SB3 (not wanting to kill my speakers).

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise level of SB3

2006-10-11 Thread dcolak
Skunk;144926 Wrote: 'Digital Volume Control' in player settingsaudio only affects the digital outputs, so being configured to use digital volume shouldn't matter w/ regards to the analog output. ... I sincerely apologize if you knew all this.. :) Thank you for all the information. :)

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise level of SB3

2006-10-11 Thread ceejay
I'm a little puzzled by this discussion (I could say I don't have this problem, but that might not be seen as helpful!). One thing that has been noted before is that, without external attentuation, the SB does have a rather higher output level than many other devices: so, if you compare its

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise level of SB3

2006-10-10 Thread Skunk
Is it hooked to an external DAC? I've heard white noise only once or twice, and disconnecting/reconnecting the power seemed to fix it. Did you try that? You might also try plugging the SB3 into a different outlet than the amps to see if that helps, maybe run an extension cord just to

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise level of SB3

2006-10-10 Thread dcolak
Skunk;144910 Wrote: Is it hooked to an external DAC? I've heard white noise only once or twice, and disconnecting/reconnecting the power seemed to fix it. Did you try that? You might also try plugging the SB3 into a different outlet than the amps to see if that helps, maybe run an

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise level of SB3

2006-10-10 Thread Skunk
dcolak;144915 Wrote: SB3 is configured to use digital volume (I think that the analog volume control of SB3 is at 100% at all times). The situation is the same if I lower the digital volume to 10 (0-100) instead of having it paused. 'Digital Volume Control' in player settingsaudio only

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise level of SB3

2006-10-10 Thread highdudgeon
Are you sure...really, really sure...that it's not your prior equipment? I assume you're talking about an integrated amplifier. dcolak;144915 Wrote: I am using the audio outs of my SB3. It's not the white noise bug that people were talking about, I had no problems like that. It's exactly

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise level of SB3

2006-10-09 Thread peejay
dcolak;144816 Wrote: Last night I tried using SB3 without the preamp. The noise coming from SB3 was incredibly loud! It was like, wow, who recorded the sounds of the beach? :-) The amps were NAD C370's (two in a 300W monoblock configuration). Connecting M-Audio Revolution 5.1 sound card