Videodrome;225106 Wrote:
...or just plain noise (example 2).
Yes, this discussion is no different because to change posters
behaviour you need to change... people's mentality. Few tried last
century, but noone really succeed. :)
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Pat Farrell;225110 Wrote:
Videodrome wrote:
Second, unless the reply is based on some level of first-hand
experience with the topic at hand, it's little more than conjecture
(example 1); or just plain noise (example 2).
So if I replied save your money, I've been going to AA meetings
325xi;224562 Wrote:
It's all about the old joke about 10 kinds of people in the
worldthose who understand binary and those who don't.
:)
Yeah, I like that one, too :).
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tomjtx;224327 Wrote:
The title of this thread says it all:
threads deteriorating into debate.
Why, pray tell, is debate a deterioration?
Couldn't debate lead to a growth in knowledge.
Knowledge of, at least, differing opinions if nothing else.
Maybe the OP should have conversations
As you haven't actually posted a question, your entire argument is
hypothetical...
:0)
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some
very expensive
So it looks like you're one of those smart alecs I was talking
about! ;-)
I suppose I should have said in the second to last paragraph: I have
yet to receive specifc recommendations.
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SB3 - Behringer SRC2496 - Musiland MD-10 DAC;
Outlaw 970 Pre/Pro;
Videodrome wrote:
Second, unless the reply is based on some level of first-hand
experience with the topic at hand, it's little more than conjecture
(example 1); or just plain noise (example 2).
So if I replied save your money, I've been going to AA meetings for six
years (Audiophile
Hee Hee...
Yes I guess I stand accused. But it was society that was to blame,
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some
very expensive cables ;o)
Videodrome;224005 Wrote:
I am, admittedly, pretty new around here. So if you like, you can take
what I'm about to say with a grain of salt ...
What is it about audiophiles and/or some of the folks on this forum
that seem to turn every thread into a debate or a tangential rant where
First, I have not yet received a meaningful answer to my question
Well, there's the rub. If the original question involves vague, highly
debated and contentious issues that have no widely agreed-upon answers,
then you're going to get vague, highly debated and contentious answers
with little
Right, but everyone knows that there are 10 kinds of people in the
worldthose who understand binary and those who don't.
:)
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ezkcdude;224267 Wrote:
Phil, I wasn't aiming my post at you. My point was simply that I would
prefer to argue about subjects that can be objectively measured, or at
least, ways to develop or improve objective measurements. Debating
whether one guy's sweet high-end is better than another
Staying on topic is of course best for the poor person who maybe ask for
help. And other who reads threads. It can be fun to read about off topic
arguing too
sometimes it is even useful information.
I have had off topic post a couple of times :) If somebody correct me i
willl not be hurt :)
And so it begins...
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TCM;224122 Wrote:
And so it begins...
Hilarious - but also ultimately futile...
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Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some
very expensive cables
Here's a suggestion: if you have a question that doesn't absolutely
require heated debate, DON'T post it in the Audiophile forum.
you're just asking for fun'n'games here, and you'll get excellent
responses elsewhere!
(there's a little spot in the back of my brain that thinks of the
Audiophile
There are two sorts of people, those who care if a thread goes off-topic
and those who don't. Only the OP should really express an opinion on
their own threads in this respect. After all, no-one has to read stuff
if they don't want to...IMHO.
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You want to see the signal path
Doesn't it really irritate you when you're in the pub and people don't
talk about exactly what you want to talk about?
My uncle used to host dinner parties where he and my aunt would plan
certain topics of conversation, doing some research and having some
interesting (ish) snippets to chivvy
Anybody see the lunar eclipse the other night?
.
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Transporter - BK Reference 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature.
(Listening room)
RWA (Analog) SB3 - Rotel RB 1070 - BW Matrix 805. (Bedroom)
Fridgidare - Mirror Pond pale ale - easy chair w/remote - irritated
neighbors.
nicketynick;224235 Wrote:
No, I was inside listening to music - I couldn't believe the improvement
in the sound without all those reflected cosmic rays messing things
up. now if only we could do something about the background.
damn Big Bang.
I thought (perceived subjectively)
haunyack;224228 Wrote:
Anybody see the lunar eclipse the other night?
.
No, I was inside listening to music - I couldn't believe the
improvement in the sound without all those reflected cosmic rays
messing things up. now if only we could do something about the
background. damn Big
adamslim;224222 Wrote:
Part of the problem is that the original post rarely defines the
requirement fully. Does the OP want a detailed scientific analysis of
the skin effect, or does he want people's experience with $1,000/m
cables?
I guess the one reason where both sides of the debate
haunyack;224238 Wrote:
I thought (perceived subjectively) the lack of corona effect made the
beer colder.
.
Well, certainly without Corona, beer is better. But it's better
without Bud, too.
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Phil Leigh;224175 Wrote:
I'll assume that wasn't directed at me personally (since I do indeed
know the difference).
Subjective measurement - you detected a difference and it doesn't
matter if anyone agrees or not
Objective measurement - more than one person detected the same
difference
As Henry Kissinger once said, Academic politics are so vicious
precisely because the stakes are so small.
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The probleem is that this forum has to many audiophil beginners that
think the have figured it all out , and there for think that enyone
that challenge there oppinion is just wwrong.
This is understandble by the nature of audio becasue it really is very
complexed just look at have many
harmonic;224286 Wrote:
The probleem is that this forum has to many audiophil beginners that
think the have figured it all out , and there for think that enyone
that challenge there oppinion is just wwrong.
This is understandble by the nature of audio becasue it really is very
complexed
opaqueice;224306 Wrote:
The fact that I was able to understand your post is an excellent
demonstration of the redundancy of the English language (which
according to Shannon is around 75%).
I don't read audiogon much, but even so I've seen quite a few flame
wars there. Same with audio
forums like Audiogon here you will mostly find people that have been
serious
audiophils for many many years, here the discussions are much more
civilized
Actually, Audiogon tends to be civilized because those forums are
moderated. Nothing gets posted until approved and they purposely keep
The title of this thread says it all:
threads deteriorating into debate.
Why, pray tell, is debate a deterioration?
Couldn't debate lead to a growth in knowledge.
Knowledge of, at least, differing opinions if nothing else.
Maybe the OP should have conversations only with himself and thus avoid
Well, the problem is we are asking for peoples opinions...
There is no truth - so what exactly do we expect? :o)
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Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system
Yeah, I think there's something intrinsic in online fora that leads to
that. I guess it's the anonymity coupled with the lack of
communication that comes with pure text - in a real conversation there
are a million non-verbal cues that tell you when you've gone too far,
or that indicate irony or
I am, admittedly, pretty new around here. So if you like, you can take
what I'm about to say with a grain of salt ...
What is it about audiophiles and/or some of the folks on this forum
that seem to turn every thread into a debate or a tangential rant where
people invariably pit their audio
I don't think that this behavior is unique to the more intelligent,
better looking folks (;)) that post here
see
Argument and Debate on Usenet
http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~magi/personal/humour/Computer_Audience/Argument%20and%20Debate%20on%20USENET.html
Flame wars on Wikipedia
Phil Leigh;224035 Wrote:
Well, the problem is we are asking for peoples opinions...
There is no truth - so what exactly do we expect? :o)
Maybe it would help if more people understood the difference between
*objective* and *subjective* measurement. Is that asking too much from
this group?
The problem is as old as Usenet but is particularly bad here because
people who come from the computer side and people who come from the
audio side can have radically different assumptions about electronics.
People who think that bits is bits will never agree with people who
think that it makes a
Quote,
(Full disclosure: I prop my speaker cables on styrofoam. Does it make a
difference? I dunno.)
I prop my cables on hot naked women. Does it make a difference? Damn
right it does.
Don't know if it sounds better. And there is NO WAY I 'm doing a blind
test on that one :-)
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I prop my cables on hot naked women. Does it make a difference? Damn
right it does.
Blondes or brunettes? I find the brunettes darker sounding...
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mlsstl;224055 Wrote:
I prop my cables on hot naked women. Does it make a difference? Damn
right it does.
Blondes or brunettes? I find the brunettes darker sounding...
Blonde on one side, brunette on the other, but that's because my amp is
balanced
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