SoftwireEngineer wrote:
@Archimago and Mynb - I have not bought much vinyl in recent years
either. Of course, the surface noise is bothersome too. Also, right now,
my turntable is packed up. My kids damaged the stylus and I dont want to
replace it till my kids grow up a bit.
We're in the
garym wrote:
Noticed on another forum; this might have been posted here before, but
worth repeating: [edit: Mynb has had this reference in his signature for
a while; I thought the reference looked familiar]
http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html
a sample:
192kHz
Interesting thread filled with very worthwhile posts! Hopefully this
post will be up to these high standards!
Thanks Andy for the link to that most amusing video. Is that the same
Mr. Smith from the Matrix movies because they sure do look very
similar.
I have a fairly good vinyl rig (one of
I read sampling theory in school, just like how Lavry explains. So I am
not fond of anything over 44.1Khz. But I like the 24bit versions (less
quantization error). And there are side-benefits in buying these Hi-Rez
music (vs the theoretical non-advantages) - usually, the transfers to
digital from
SoftwireEngineer wrote:
But I like the 24bit versions (less quantization error).
This is a typical example of audiuophile gibberish. How does this
mysterious Quantization Error in 16bit matter against 24bit?
Wombat's
SoftwireEngineer wrote:
And there are side-benefits in buying these Hi-Rez music (vs the
theoretical non-advantages) - usually, the transfers to digital from the
analog masters are done more carefully and with better quality digital
equipment. Also, they pick good analog master tapes and
SoftwireEngineer wrote:
And there are side-benefits in buying these Hi-Rez music (vs the
theoretical non-advantages) - usually, the transfers to digital from the
analog masters are done more carefully and with better quality digital
equipment. Also, they pick good analog master tapes and
Wombat wrote:
This is a typical example of audiophile gibberish. How does this
mysterious Quantization Error in 16bit matter against 24bit? Please
explain it to me because i don´t see the issue.
That is theoretically speaking.. You can do the research for yourself.
ralphpnj wrote:
Don't generalize! There are plenty of really bad and completely
worthless high resolution releases available. In the worse cases all
they do is upsample the CD master to make it high resolution. And what
happens with all those early all digital recordings which were recorded
ralphpnj wrote:
Not to mention some of the choices for what recordings get the high
resolution audiophile treatment which is more often than not merely a
question of licensing. There are quite a few audiophile releases which
leave me scratching my head wondering what makes this POS worthy of
SoftwireEngineer wrote:
That is theoretically speaking.. You can do the research for yourself.
I did. We once had a link to an interview with Daniel Weiss himself and
one of his knowledgeable statements was that worrying about more then
16bit on playback is not worth it. I only talk about bit
SoftwireEngineer wrote:
That is theoretically speaking.. You can do the research for yourself.
I don't think we are interested in the research - we are just interested
in why you think it matters. A bunch of us had it in school, and arrived
at different conclusions than you.
Julf wrote:
I don't think we are interested in the research - we are just interested
in why you think it matters. A bunch of us had it in school, and arrived
at different conclusions than you.
I don't have that many Hi-Rez recordings. What ever I have i bought it
mainly for those
SoftwireEngineer wrote:
I don't have that many Hi-Rez recordings. What ever I have i bought it
mainly for those non-theoretical reasons (and continue to). There is
some theoretical benefits to 24bit. But as I mentioned earlier in some
other thread I have heard some RedBook recordings as good
Julf wrote:
OK, but we were asking about your statements about 24 bit vs 16 bit, not
about downsampling...
I thought I was clear. 16bit-24bit is all about quantization. You should
read about this yourself.
ralphpnj wrote:
Interesting thread filled with very worthwhile posts! Hopefully this
post will be up to these high standards!
Thanks Andy for the link to that most amusing video. Is that the same
Mr. Smith from the Matrix movies because they sure do look very
similar.
I have a fairly
Archimago wrote:
I also remember being annoyed when I used to buy new albums and finding
little scratches and warping upon opening the package :-(
As an aside, I think vinyl needle drops can sound fantastic! For
digital releases which are poorly produced like Red Hot Chili Peppers'
cdmackay wrote:
ho, this takes me back...
I remember in the 80s taking my vinyl copy of The Wall back to the shop
4 times because I couldn't get a copy without background noise in the
quiet passages on Is There Anybody Out There?.
I bought a CD player that year (a very early Philips,
Wombat wrote:
One thing that poped in my ears lately is Patricia Barbers Smash. I like
her for the cold cool way she presents her stuff. Lately on a HDtracks
promotional forum one asked for it, like with almost all new releases
from there and the common sense of course was positive only.
Archimago wrote:
BTW: If anyone has the CD copy, it would be interesting to check if
there's evidence of high signal into 22kHz. This is a case where not
only is 24/192 questionable, but the unfiltered unusual ultrasonic
content above 22kHz could really make this sound worse than the CD.
I
Wombat wrote:
This looks like maybe on one instrument track was used some highly
noise-shaped dither. Most likely that instrument was captured at 16/44.1
or 24/48 max. and was put into the mix.
Interesting. You're probably right. I had a look at the spectrum during
playback and it looks
Archimago wrote:
the intangible something that they identify as special about the
system.
Philosophically some audiophiles have finally come to terms with this
and do extensive ripping of cherished vinyl .you can have your cake
and eat it too as many times as you like , realising that this
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