Re: [Aus-soaring] ADSB in gliders and sport aviation

2010-11-26 Thread John Parncutt
Be careful what you agree to Mal, ADSB is in no way similar or compatible with flarm. Flarm uses extremely low power (in the order of 10mW I believe) to work over distances of a few KM at most. ADSB mode S is far more power hungry since it is transmitting data almost continually at ranges

Re: [Aus-soaring] ADSB in gliders and sport aviation

2010-11-26 Thread JR
so where can we buy the room to put them in, or do you leave something else out of the panel, airspeed, altimeter, perhaps a vario. JR - Original Message - From: Simon Hackett To: Mal Bruce ; AUS Soaring Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring]

Re: [Aus-soaring] ADSB in gliders and sport aviation

2010-11-26 Thread Mike Borgelt
Mal, PowerFlarm which seems to be running a year or so behind schedule will have Flarm and ADSB IN as well as Mode C/S transponder detection. The Flarm display will show Flarm and ADSB targets and the transponder detector gives range (within 5nm on current PCAS units)and relative

Re: [Aus-soaring] ADSB in gliders and sport aviation

2010-11-26 Thread John Welsh
PowerFLARM doesn't appear to provide ADSB Out only ADSB In. From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Simon Hackett Sent: Friday, 26 November 2010 4:02 PM To: Mal Bruce; AUS Soaring Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] ADSB in

Re: [Aus-soaring] ADSB in gliders and sport aviation

2010-11-26 Thread Simon Hackett
Hello Mal (et al), That device already exists. Its called a PowerFLARM: http://www.butterfly.aero/powerflarm/fly/ and/or http://www.lxavionics.co.uk/traffic-monitor.htm This looks like its just about to go into full production. Note that its quoted as being able to run for 8 hours on six AA

Re: [Aus-soaring] ADSB in gliders and sport aviation

2010-11-26 Thread Robert Hart
On 26/11/10 18:02, Simon Hackett wrote: Hello Mal (et al), That device already exists. Its called a PowerFLARM: http://www.butterfly.aero/powerflarm/fly/ and/or http://www.lxavionics.co.uk/traffic-monitor.htm As far as I can see, powerflarm provides only ADS-B in - that is it does not

Re: [Aus-soaring] ADSB in gliders and sport aviation

2010-11-26 Thread Mark Fisher
Guys, Swift Avionics will be the Australian agent for PowerFlarm. Will advertise when it's ready to sell. Cheers Mark On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 8:02 PM, John Welsh jwe...@arach.net.au wrote: PowerFLARM doesn’t appear to provide ADSB Out only ADSB In. *From:*

Re: [Aus-soaring] ADSB in gliders and sport aviation

2010-11-26 Thread Mark Fisher
Robert , It is my belief that PowerFlarm is also externally powered via a standard Flarm Port. Mark On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Robert Hart ha...@interweft.com.au wrote: On 26/11/10 18:02, Simon Hackett wrote: Hello Mal (et al), That device already exists. Its called a PowerFLARM:

Re: [Aus-soaring] ADSB in gliders and sport aviation

2010-11-26 Thread Robert Hart
On 26/11/10 18:52, Mike Borgelt wrote: I'm rolling around the floor laughing at sport aviation organisations, one of which (GFA) mandated a collision avoidance system in contests, protesting mandatory fitment of another collision avoidance system which potentially at least, protects all air

Re: [Aus-soaring] ADSB in gliders and sport aviation

2010-11-26 Thread Al Borowski
Hi all, Disclaimer: The post below relies mainly on information gathered when I tried to make a FLARM compatible unit for a student project many moons ago. It may be totally incorrect now. I think the biggest problem with FLARM is that it is not an open standard. It's a great idea but the FLARM

Re: [Aus-soaring] ADSB in gliders and sport aviation

2010-11-26 Thread DMcD
I think the biggest problem with FLARM is that it is not an open standard. It's a great idea but the FLARM people keep their protocol (the way different FLARM devices talk to each other over the radio) a secret. There are two sides to this one aren't there? It's a bit like a certain US

[Aus-soaring] Narromine Cup Week Update

2010-11-26 Thread Ross McLean
Congratulations to Bryan Hayhow on winning the Narromine Cup, well done mate! All packed up and everyone's off to the State Comps at Lake Keepit, but it has been a great week of Soaring at Narromine this year. Thank you to Paul Mander for running an excellent coaching course during the week, and

Re: [Aus-soaring] ADSB in gliders and sport aviation

2010-11-26 Thread Jim Staniforth
Believe there was a PowerFLARM being tested in GO at the Narromine Cup. It will be at the Keepit comp too, flown by American pilot Dave Nadler, the fellow behind the SN-10 software. I'm building an instrument panel which will have a CAI302, ClearNAV, PowerFLARM (external display version)

[Aus-soaring] SA: ADL-Narromine DEC

2010-11-26 Thread Adam Woolley
G’day All, A heads up, I’m heading off to JoeyGlide with a spare tow-ball on the 17th, along with 4 spare seats from ADL! If anyone wants to come along to the JG presentation party, or wants something taken over to NRM – then please drop me a line! go_soaring! instead Adam Woolley

[Aus-soaring] Simulator Update. Fuselage arrives

2010-11-26 Thread Tom Wilksch
Hi Everyone The fuselage has arrived in Australia and looks wonderful. Check it out at: http://soarabilitysim.blogspot.com/ Cheers Tom___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit:

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 86, Issue 42

2010-11-26 Thread Nelson Handcock
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 86, Issue 42

2010-11-26 Thread John Welsh
Hi Nelson, Suggest you read this in detail: http://2009.gfa.org.au/Docs/CASA/ASAC_DP1001AS_Response.pdf Cheers, John Welsh From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Nelson Handcock Sent: Saturday, 27 November

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 86, Issue 42

2010-11-26 Thread Robert Hart
On 27/11/10 16:09, Nelson Handcock wrote: Excuse what might appear a dumb question, but apart from the cost of installing maintaining the instruments, what is the issue for gliding here? I take it an extra battery would be required - so I guess this has to be factored into task planning -

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 86, Issue 47

2010-11-26 Thread Nelson Handcock
Thanks - I read this through a few days ago and gather this document focusses on the cost not justifying the relatively low incident rate. However, (as some have pointed out on this forum) the more situational awareness that can be acheived the better, so it appears there is some support for the

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 86, Issue 47

2010-11-26 Thread DMcD
My query relating to Task planning is not answered - is it a realistic consideration or not? (I'm relatively new to the sport so please excuse my ignorance) Realistic for some, but perhaps not all and if that's the case, will it work? The battery drain of modern moving map instruments in a