Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage please.

Thank you, Manoel. On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 2:56 PM, mances wrote: > In short, I understand it is implicit in the text that they were not > married because they were relatives with a forbidden degree of > consanguinity and they will ask for the dispensation. > > Manoel > > Em

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage please.

In short, I understand it is implicit in the text that they were not married because they were relatives with a forbidden degree of consanguinity and they will ask for the dispensation. Manoel Em quinta-feira, 31 de março de 2016 18:04:21 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: > > What does it say? > >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage please.

What does it say? On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:15 AM, mances wrote: > Sandra, > > Yes, you're right, and it's a very interesting record. > > Here's what I read: > " ... hua menina f.a de João Camello e Barbara Muniz, que entre elles > ouverão, e por serem parentes em grao

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage please.

Sandra, Yes, you're right, and it's a very interesting record. Here's what I read: " ... hua menina f.a de João Camello e Barbara Muniz, que entre elles ouverão, e por serem parentes em grao proibido impetrão breve de ..? santidade ..." "...uma menina filha de João Camelo e Bárbara Moniz, que

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage please.

I haven't been following this thread closely, however I saw the question about waiting 5 years to marry. I had a couple that had kids for 4 or 5 years before getting married. They were 1st cousins and it took that long for the dispensation to go through. I don't know if that's the case with your

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage please.

Thank you. Manoel did I have Joao Camelo Pereira and Barbara Monis' marriage and their daughter, Maria's, early birth correct? Why would they wait five years to marry? On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 7:50 PM, mances wrote: > Sandra, > > I know of a Furtado's line which is connected

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage please.

Sandra, I know of a Furtado's line which is connected to Moniz Vieira and Bettencourt in Fenais da Ajuda in that time period. Captain Braz Furtado de Medeiros married Maria Moniz Vieira and I think that she may be connected to Bárbara Moniz de Bettencourt. Manoel Em quarta-feira, 30 de março

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage please.

Manoel, Capt. Braz Monis Pereira fo Joao Camelo Pereira and Dona Barbara Monis de Battencout was padrinho to my 5th g-grandfather, Manoel Pereira. Manoel was the son of Manoel Furtado Seixas & Maria Pereira (no marriage for them--6th mo. gap in records). There seems to be close ties of this

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage please.

Sandra, Gaspar Camelo Pereira The witness: Rui Vaz de Medeiros Gaspar Camelo Pereira and Guiomar Álvares Pinheiro are my ancestors too. They are in Rodrigo Rodrigues book. Sebastião Vieira Machado and Bárbara de Medeiros [Camelo] are in the RR book as well. I have common ancestors with these

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help confirm marriage please.

Thank you, Manoel. On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 8:38 AM, mances wrote: > Sandra, > > It's written: > Forão t.as (foram testemunhas): Manuel Fernandes Azevedo?, Manuel Roiz, > Matias Barreiro?, e Amador Gonçalves ... > > Manoel > > Em segunda-feira, 21 de março de 2016 11:29:47

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help confirm marriage please.

Sandra, It's written: Forão t.as (foram testemunhas): Manuel Fernandes Azevedo?, Manuel Roiz, Matias Barreiro?, e Amador Gonçalves ... Manoel Em segunda-feira, 21 de março de 2016 11:29:47 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: > > Manoel, doesn't it say "fa" Dos. after Ma. Pereira? > > On Mon, Mar 21,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help confirm marriage please.

Thank you. On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 7:53 AM, JR wrote: > That's not fa. Its fora. short for forao or foram testumunhas > > JR > > On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 10:29:47 AM UTC-4, Sandra Perez wrote: >> >> Manoel, doesn't it say "fa" Dos. after Ma. Pereira? >> >> On Mon, Mar 21,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help confirm marriage please.

That's not fa. Its fora. short for forao or foram testumunhas JR On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 10:29:47 AM UTC-4, Sandra Perez wrote: > > Manoel, doesn't it say "fa" Dos. after Ma. Pereira? > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 6:00 AM, mances > wrote: > >> Sandra, >> >> The record

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help confirm marriage please.

Manoel, doesn't it say "fa" Dos. after Ma. Pereira? On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 6:00 AM, mances wrote: > Sandra, > > The record doesn't list the parents. The names that you see are the > witnesses. > > Manoel > > > Em domingo, 20 de março de 2016 18:02:03 UTC-3, Sandra Perez

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help confirm marriage please.

Sandra, The record doesn't list the parents. The names that you see are the witnesses. Manoel Em domingo, 20 de março de 2016 18:02:03 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: > > 8 Jan 1600 Belchoir Lucas e Maria Pereira. Maria's parents: Dos. ? Frz e > Ma? Roiz? I also see Matias Carreira? and