Re: Res: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge research
Cheri, in a way I'm happy for my gaff, otherwise I wouldn't have learned this particularity. Actually is kindda funny, because now that I'm researching my family in other islands I was thinking there were a lot of single mothers in Sao Jorge im comparison to Sao Miguel. (LOL). Margaret Vicente On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:08 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Margaret V, Not, not a literal translation. More like d'outro = of another (of the same name), I'd say, but they leave out the ( ) part because it is understood (or within the priests and scribes circles of that time period). Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Res: Res: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge research
He's Machado Dias, not Diniz. De: celeste perry ccgran...@yahoo.com Para: azores@googlegroups.com Enviadas: Domingo, 18 de Abril de 2010 18:10:53 Assunto: Re: Res: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge research Thank you, Joao, I think I finally understand. Manoel was the child that was born. He was the son of Jorge Machado Deniz and this Jorge Machado Deniz was the sone of another Jorge Machado Deniz. That means that Manoel's father and his paternal grandfather have the same name. It is the Machado Deniz name that interests me. I just could not figure out what the record was saying and could not get past that until I understood it. Thank you again for clarifying it for me. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --- On Sun, 4/18/10, Joao S. Lopes josim...@yahoo.com.br wrote: From: Joao S. Lopes josim...@yahoo.com.br Subject: Res: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge research To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, April 18, 2010, 9:37 AM Manoel filho de Jorge Machado Dias filho d'outro e de Maria Florinda da Silveira, já defunctos, e de sua mulher Maria do Espirito Santo, filha de Manoel Silveira Pereira e de Barbara Silveira, já defunctos, naturais estes, da Fajã?(...) Freguezia da Ribeira Seca e aquelles naturaes e moradores deste? Lugar da Manadas Parochial de Santa Barbara Ouvidoria e Concelho da Villa das Vellas Ilha de S. Jorge: nasceu no Dia trinta de Mayo a trinta, digo, da vinte e nove? de Julho foi baptizado p. mim Cura Respectivo? forão Padrinhos Manoel Pedrozo de Borba e Izabel Delfina de S. João (ou S. Julião), Solteiros, ambos naturaes dos Biscoitos da Calheta e freguezes desta Parochia Manadense?: Do q para constar fiz este termo q assigno, com o thezoureiro Jorge de Souza de [...] e do Baptismo mil oito centos settenta e sette Manoel son of Jorge Machado Dias, son of another [jorge Machado Dias] and Maria Florinda da Silveira, already dead, and of his wife Maria do Espirito Santo, daughter of Manoel Silveira Pereira and Barbara Silveira, already dead, these [wife and her parents] born at Fajã?(...) parish of Ribeira Seca e those [husband and his parents] born and living at the place of Manadas parish of Santa Barbara Ouvidoria and Concelho of the Villa das Vellas Island of St George: he's born at May 30th , correcting, July 29th and was baptize for me the respective priest (Cura) godparents: Manoel Pedrozo de Borba and Izabel Delfina de S. João (or S. Julião), both single and born at Biscoitos da Calheta and parishers of this Manadense (gentillic of Manadas) Parish: [...] e do Baptism 1877 De: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Para: azores@googlegroups.com Enviadas: Domingo, 18 de Abril de 2010 12:37:43 Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge research Joao S Lopes and others (but use Internet Explorer (IE) or Safari): http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/SJVMB1870-1879/SJVMB1870-1879_item1/P99.html Cheri -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] St. Joseph Cemetery in Hayward, CA
Repost for Eric Gomes at gomes.ancestry at gmail.com Hi all, I have belonged to the group for about two months... And I have been reading the messages to try and understand the format before I send out my first reply/email/message... In otherwords I have a lot of questions etc., because my Azorean/Sao Miguel tree goes back three or four generation to the point that we know which boat most of my gg- grandparents travelled to Hawaii on. I am going to start with a question to Celeste. In the message below you mention the St. Joseph cemetery in Hayward. Where is that located?? I grew up in Hayward (and now live in Castro Valley) Thanks, Eric Gomes -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. Joseph Cemetery in Hayward, CA
Hello Eric.. i believe it is this one.. http://files.usgwarchives.net/ca/alameda/cemeteries/mtstjoseph.txt From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 10:43:45 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. Joseph Cemetery in Hayward, CA Repost for Eric Gomes at gomes.ancestry at gmail.com Hi all, I have belonged to the group for about two months... And I have been reading the messages to try and understand the format before I send out my first reply/email/message... In otherwords I have a lot of questions etc., because my Azorean/Sao Miguel tree goes back three or four generation to the point that we know which boat most of my gg- grandparents travelled to Hawaii on. I am going to start with a question to Celeste. In the message below you mention the St. Joseph cemetery in Hayward. Where is that located?? I grew up in Hayward (and now live in Castro Valley) Thanks, Eric Gomes-- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. Joseph Cemetery in Hayward, CA
Eric, St. Joseph's in Hayward is actually Mount St. Joseph's. It's located at the 1000 block of Walpert Street, Hayward. It is owned and over seen by All Saints Catholic Church, 22824 Second St., Hayward 510.581.2570. If you want to go to the cemetary, you'll need to contact them first as the cemetery is kept locked. I'm curious about your Sao Miguel relatives. I also have ancestors that came from Sao Miguel to Hawaii and some of them are buried at St. Joseph's. Manuel (1850 -1933) and Maria Pereira (1954 - 1933) for one. Any possible connection? Thank you Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Periera, Azevedo, Furtado, Rapoza Islands: Faial Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10.44 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. Joseph Cemetery in Hayward, CA Repost for Eric Gomes at gomes.ancestry at gmail.com Hi all, I have belonged to the group for about two months... And I have been reading the messages to try and understand the format before I send out my first reply/email/message... In otherwords I have a lot of questions etc., because my Azorean/Sao Miguel tree goes back three or four generation to the point that we know which boat most of my gg- grandparents travelled to Hawaii on. I am going to start with a question to Celeste. In the message below you mention the St. Joseph cemetery in Hayward. Where is that located?? I grew up in Hayward (and now live in Castro Valley) Thanks, Eric Gomes -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] need eyes, too
Hi TISH, Line 2 … both (contraentes) the marrying couple being baptized at………. Line 5 … sinco (the same as cinco nowadays = 5). SINCO is the old Portuguese spelling for 5 ; IT SEEMS não receberam as bençãos (they have not received the benediction , they were not blessed because of something that I do not understand. To understand it fully I need the original and the complete scan… …i tis not much but i tis a little more eliseu -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Digital Images for Pico
Repost for Tony: tony at rossettas.com t...@rossettas.com Hello All, I'm fairly new here, can anyone tell me if there are digital images such the one's linked here from Ribeiras, Pico? If yes, can someone please post a link? Thanks! Tony -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. Joseph Cemetery in Hayward, CA
Who are you looking for that went to Hawaii My ggrandparents went to Hawaii on the Bell Rock (Nov. 1883), and the City of Paris (about June 1884). I have ggrandparents buried at Mt. St. Joseph's Cemetery also. Shirley in CA PS My husband has ancestors from Faial. - Original Message - From: Jacki G. To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 11:50 AM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. Joseph Cemetery in Hayward, CA Eric, St. Joseph's in Hayward is actually Mount St. Joseph's. It's located at the 1000 block of Walpert Street, Hayward. It is owned and over seen by All Saints Catholic Church, 22824 Second St., Hayward 510.581.2570. If you want to go to the cemetary, you'll need to contact them first as the cemetery is kept locked. I'm curious about your Sao Miguel relatives. I also have ancestors that came from Sao Miguel to Hawaii and some of them are buried at St. Joseph's. Manuel (1850 -1933) and Maria Pereira (1954 - 1933) for one. Any possible connection? Thank you Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Periera, Azevedo, Furtado, Rapoza Islands: Faial Sao Miguel -- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10.44 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. Joseph Cemetery in Hayward, CA Repost for Eric Gomes at gomes.ancestry at gmail.com Hi all, I have belonged to the group for about two months... And I have been reading the messages to try and understand the format before I send out my first reply/email/message... In otherwords I have a lot of questions etc., because my Azorean/Sao Miguel tree goes back three or four generation to the point that we know which boat most of my gg- grandparents travelled to Hawaii on. I am going to start with a question to Celeste. In the message below you mention the St. Joseph cemetery in Hayward. Where is that located?? I grew up in Hayward (and now live in Castro Valley) Thanks, Eric Gomes -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio Jose de Sousa Pereira of Sao Jorge
Greetings to you all, I'm wondering if anyone has any information or connection to: Antonio Jose de Sousa Pereira, born around 1777 who married on June 4,1800.in Velas Marianna Clara do Espirito Santos, born around 1774 These are parents of my randfather..also named Antonio Jose de Sousa Pereira who married Isabel de Jesus da Silveira.daughter of Manuel Avila Teixeira and Maria de Jesus (?) They had 10 children. Regards, Nancy Jean Baptista _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira
Hi Debmarie, my name is tony I am doing research on my gg parents from Terceira San Miguel, IF it is not a problem I would appreciate it very much if you could obtain for an address where I could write for copies of Birth, Marriage, Death Baptism Records. if at all possible some phone numbers. (hopefully they will speak english). Both sets of Grand Parents are from Portugal, I am trying to find as much information as I possibly can. Thanking you in advance for any help you can provide. Also if you have members who have asked for your help it would be too much of a load, please advise. Once Again Thank You --- On Wed, 3/17/10, debmarie mzleona...@comcast.net wrote: From: debmarie mzleona...@comcast.net Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 7:53 AM Hello... I am new to the group and just getting started (seriously) on my family tree. I will be in Terceira this summer and plan to do some research. If I can be of any help to any of you while I am there let me know. My Family Names are: Leonardo (paternal), Teixeira (maternal), Azevedo, Soares, Goncalves Predominantly from Porto Judeu Feteira. My grandfather used to be the barber in Porto Judeo and his shop was across the street from what is now Boca Negra. Take care -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira
Who are you looking for in Terceiva and in Sao Miguel? I have ancestors from both islands. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Tony Rodrigues To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira Hi Debmarie, my name is tony I am doing research on my gg parents from Terceira San Miguel, IF it is not a problem I would appreciate it very much if you could obtain for an address where I could write for copies of Birth, Marriage, Death Baptism Records. if at all possible some phone numbers. (hopefully they will speak english). Both sets of Grand Parents are from Portugal, I am trying to find as much information as I possibly can. Thanking you in advance for any help you can provide. Also if you have members who have asked for your help it would be too much of a load, please advise. Once Again Thank You --- On Wed, 3/17/10, debmarie mzleona...@comcast.net wrote: From: debmarie mzleona...@comcast.net Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 7:53 AM Hello... I am new to the group and just getting started (seriously) on my family tree. I will be in Terceira this summer and plan to do some research. If I can be of any help to any of you while I am there let me know. My Family Names are: Leonardo (paternal), Teixeira (maternal), Azevedo, Soares, Goncalves Predominantly from Porto Judeu Feteira. My grandfather used to be the barber in Porto Judeo and his shop was across the street from what is now Boca Negra. Take care -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Digital Images for Pico
Tony, No, there are no digital images from the CCA site for Pico. There is a searchable database at the NEPS site http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/ilhadopico.html Ribeiras is found in the Lajes do Pico Eric On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for Tony: tony at rossettas.com t...@rossettas.com Hello All, I'm fairly new here, can anyone tell me if there are digital images such the one's linked here from Ribeiras, Pico? If yes, can someone please post a link? Thanks! Tony -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico
Hi I've just listed for this group and noticed all the posts. My known routs are on the island of Pico. I was born in Sao Rouque. My father is from there with his name Gualberto Garcia Simas with a family home at the rebira da fonte. My mother is from Sao Cateano with her family home at caminho de Cima with her name Maria Goulart Cabral. Our family immigrated to the Toronto area with my dads family immigrating to California. Does anyone have any historical information on these families? Look forward to your comments. Thanks From: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com To: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon Apr 19 19:01:28 2010 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira Who are you looking for in Terceiva and in Sao Miguel? I have ancestors from both islands. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Tony Rodrigues mailto:t.rodrigue...@yahoo.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira Hi Debmarie, my name is tony I am doing research on my gg parents from Terceira San Miguel, IF it is not a problem I would appreciate it very much if you could obtain for an address where I could write for copies of Birth, Marriage, Death Baptism Records. if at all possible some phone numbers. (hopefully they will speak english). Both sets of Grand Parents are from Portugal, I am trying to find as much information as I possibly can. Thanking you in advance for any help you can provide. Also if you have members who have asked for your help it would be too much of a load, please advise. Once Again Thank You --- On Wed, 3/17/10, debmarie mzleona...@comcast.net wrote: From: debmarie mzleona...@comcast.net Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 7:53 AM Hello... I am new to the group and just getting started (seriously) on my family tree. I will be in Terceira this summer and plan to do some research. If I can be of any help to any of you while I am there let me know. My Family Names are: Leonardo (paternal), Teixeira (maternal), Azevedo, Soares, Goncalves Predominantly from Porto Judeu Feteira. My grandfather used to be the barber in Porto Judeo and his shop was across the street from what is now Boca Negra. Take care -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com http://us.mc457.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mt. St. Joseph Cemetery in Hayward, CA
Hi Eric,
Welcome to the group. Mt. St. Joseph Cemetery is located on Walpert St. In
the olden days, you could only reach the cemetery via Second St. Walpert is
the street just past the castle. Now, Walpert runs between Second St and
Mission Blvd.
This cemetery was begun about 1875 and served the Hayward area for the most
part. When I was extracting the record, I heard that because a lot of babies
were buried it was sometimes referred to the Cemetery of the Babies and that
many people from other areas had their babies buried there.
I have the records for the most part from the beginning of the burials until
about 1960. At the time I extracted the records, there was one more book and I
was not allowed to include that book.
It is pretty much true that Catholics buried from All Saints Church were
buried there until Holy Sepulchre was started in 1937, I think. The cemetery
does not have perpetual care so families had to tend the graves themselves.
Now, I think the church does some maintenance; however, there has been a lot of
vandalism.
If you have any additional questions, just email me privately. Celeste,
Hayward, CA
Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
--- On Mon, 4/19/10, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. Joseph Cemetery in Hayward, CA
To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 10:43 AM
Repost for Eric Gomes at gomes.ancestry at gmail.com
Hi all,
I have belonged to the group for about two months... And I have been
reading the messages to try and understand the format before I send
out my first reply/email/message... In otherwords I have a lot of
questions etc., because my Azorean/Sao Miguel tree goes back three or
four generation to the point that we know which boat most of my gg-
grandparents travelled to Hawaii on.
I am going to start with a question to Celeste. In the message below
you mention the St. Joseph cemetery in Hayward. Where is that
located?? I grew up in Hayward (and now live in Castro Valley)
Thanks,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. Joseph Cemetery in Hayward, CA
Eric,
It is true that the grave stones were put into a database (not the one I
did). Many of the stones had been destroyed and were at the bottom of the
creek that runs behind the cemetery. If you are looking for someone that may
be buried there, they may or may not have a stone.
In addition, there is a large section at the back of the cemetery that was
known as the poor ground. Almost no stones were found there when I began
looking for my uncle who died in 1917 at the age of 3 months. Of course, my
grandparents did not have the money for a stone and that is the reason I began
looking at the 14 books for the cemetery.
Celeste, Hayward, CA
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. Joseph Cemetery in Hayward, CA
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 11:38 AM
Hello Eric..
i believe it is this one..
http://files.usgwarchives.net/ca/alameda/cemeteries/mtstjoseph.txt
From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com
To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 10:43:45 AM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. Joseph Cemetery in Hayward, CA
Repost for Eric Gomes at gomes.ancestry at gmail.com
Hi all,
I have belonged to the group for about two months... And I have been
reading the messages to try and understand the format before I send
out my first reply/email/message... In otherwords I have a lot of
questions etc., because my Azorean/Sao Miguel tree goes back three or
four generation to the point that we know which boat most of my gg-
grandparents travelled to Hawaii on.
I am going to start with a question to Celeste. In the message below
you mention the St. Joseph cemetery in Hayward. Where is that
located?? I grew up in Hayward (and now live in Castro Valley)
Thanks,
Eric Gomes
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. Joseph Cemetery in Hayward, CA
Shirley, The family that I have which are buried at St. Joseph's are: Manuel Pereira 1850-1933 and Joaquina Rosa Morgado Pereira 1854-1933 ( I mistyped below when I typed Maria). They are my gg grandparents. They arrived in Hawaii in Sept 1882 from Feteiras, Ponta Delgado, Sao Miguel on the Hansa. They came to the Oakland/Hayward area about 1898. Also buried in St. Joseph's in the same plot is one of their daughters Alexandrina and her husband Germano Silva. The other line which also came to Hawaii, also arrived in 1882. They arrived in June aboard the Monarch. They are the Fernandes' listed below. My Faial ancestors are from Cedros. That is my Medeiros line. My grandfather, Jose Medeiros and his parents Manuel Medeiros and Maria Machado came here in 1906. They arrived in Boston and then traveled by train to the Martinez, CA area where they settled and stayed. Manuel's parents were Antonio Francisco Medeiros and Maria Clara. I don't have the names of Maria Machado's parents yet. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel Ancestors of Manuel FERNANDES Generation 1 1. Manuel FERNANDES was born on 01 Aug 1878 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. He was the son of 2. Luiz M. FARNANDES and 3. Roza A. PACHECO. He died on 16 Aug 1909 in Dimond Canyon Quarry, Oakland, CA. He married Maria Augusta PEREIRA on 24 Jul 1904 in Oakland, CA, daughter of Manuel PEREIRA and Joaquina Rosa MORGADO. She was born on 29 Oct 1886 in Honolulu, Hawaii. She died on 21 Aug 1959 in Contra Costa Co., CA. Generation 2 2. Luiz M. FARNANDES was born on 20 Jun 1842 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. He was the son of 4. Jose de Medeiros FARNANDES and 5. Antonia Jacinta FURTADA. He died on 15 Sep 1905. He married Antonia de Jesus 3. Roza A. PACHECO was born 25 Jan 1857 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal, died 03 May 1938 in San Jose, Santa Clara, CA, married 29 Sep 1875 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. She was the daughter of 6. Jacinto PACHECO and 7. Maria dos Angos RAPOZA. Children of Luiz M. FARNANDES and Roza A. PACHECO are: + 1. i. Manuel FERNANDES was born 01 Aug 1878 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal, died 16 Aug 1909 in Dimond Canyon Quarry, Oakland, CA, married Maria Augusta PEREIRA 24 Jul 1904 in Oakland, CA. ii. Jose FERNANDES was born Abt. Feb 1882 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal[1], died Bef. 1910. Generation 3 4. Jose de Medeiros FARNANDES. He was the son of 8. Thome de Medeiros FARNANDES and 9. Felicia Roza ?. He married Antonia Jacinta FURTADA. 5. Antonia Jacinta FURTADA. She was the daughter of 10. Francisco FURTADO and 11. Laurianna de Jesus ?. Child of Jose de Medeiros FARNANDES and Antonia Jacinta FURTADA is: + 2. i. Luiz M. FARNANDES was born 20 Jun 1842 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal, died 15 Sep 1905, married Roza A. PACHECO 29 Sep 1875 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. 6. Jacinto PACHECO was born about Oct 1833 in Fajã de Cima, Azores, Portugal (Church = Senhora do Oliveria)[2]. He was the son of 12. Luis PACHECO and 13. Claudina de Jesus FERREIRA. He married Maria dos Angos RAPOZA on 28 Oct 1855 in Fajã de Cima, Azores, Portugal. 7. Maria dos Angos RAPOZA was born Abt. 1829 in Fajã de Cima, Azores, Portugal[2], married 28 Oct 1855 in Fajã de Cima, Azores, Portugal. She was the daughter of 14. Antonio Pereira RAPOZO and 15. Marianna de Jesus ?. Child of Jacinto PACHECO and Maria dos Angos RAPOZA is: + 3. i. Roza A. PACHECO was born 25 Jan 1857 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal, died 03 May 1938 in San Jose, Santa Clara, CA, married Luiz M. FARNANDES 29 Sep 1875 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal; married Manuel V. MIRANDA Azores-Island Unknown. Generation 4 8. Thome de Medeiros FARNANDES. He married Felicia Roza ?. 9. Felicia Roza ?. Child of Thome de Medeiros FARNANDES and Felicia Roza ? is: + 4. i. Jose de Medeiros FARNANDES. 10. Francisco FURTADO. He married Laurianna de Jesus ?. 11. Laurianna de Jesus ? was born Sao Miguel, Vila Franca do Campo, Sao Miguel . Child of Francisco FURTADO and Laurianna de Jesus ? is: + 5. i. Antonia Jacinta FURTADA. 12. Luis PACHECO. He was the son of 24. Manoel PACHECO and 25. Maria Joaquina ?. He married Claudina de Jesus FERREIRA on 10 Feb 1833 in Fajã de Baixo, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal[3]. 13. Claudina de Jesus FERREIRA, married 10 Feb 1833 in Fajã de Baixo, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal[3]. She was the daughter of 26. Mathias Jose FERREIRA and 27. Suzana de Jesus ?. Child of Luis PACHECO and Claudina de Jesus FERREIRA is: + 6. i. Jacinto PACHECO was born Abt. Oct 1833 in Fajã de Cima, Azores, Portugal; Church = Senhora do Oliveria[2], married Maria dos Angos RAPOZA 28 Oct 1855 in Fajã de Cima, Azores, Portugal. 14. Antonio Pereira RAPOZO. He married Marianna de Jesus ?. 15. Marianna de Jesus ?, died Bef. Oct 1855.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mt. St. Joseph Cemetery in Hayward, CA
Hi Celeste, How were you able to extract the records? I have been to St Mary's cemetery in Oakland, CA and I was lucky to get the location of my grandparents grave. Do you happen to know if it is easy to get records from the churches. My mother and her siblings were baptized at St Leo's, also in Oakland. While I'm at it, has anyone obtained baptismal information from Mission San Jose, in Fremont CA from the 1880's? Any ideas of how to get information of births of Alameda Co. in the 1880's? Thanks, Tish On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:14 PM, celeste perry ccgran...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Eric, Welcome to the group. Mt. St. Joseph Cemetery is located on Walpert St. In the olden days, you could only reach the cemetery via Second St. Walpert is the street just past the castle. Now, Walpert runs between Second St and Mission Blvd. This cemetery was begun about 1875 and served the Hayward area for the most part. When I was extracting the record, I heard that because a lot of babies were buried it was sometimes referred to the Cemetery of the Babies and that many people from other areas had their babies buried there. I have the records for the most part from the beginning of the burials until about 1960. At the time I extracted the records, there was one more book and I was not allowed to include that book. It is pretty much true that Catholics buried from All Saints Church were buried there until Holy Sepulchre was started in 1937, I think. The cemetery does not have perpetual care so families had to tend the graves themselves. Now, I think the church does some maintenance; however, there has been a lot of vandalism. If you have any additional questions, just email me privately. Celeste, Hayward, CA Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --- On *Mon, 4/19/10, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. Joseph Cemetery in Hayward, CA To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 10:43 AM Repost for Eric Gomes at gomes.ancestry at gmail.com Hi all, I have belonged to the group for about two months... And I have been reading the messages to try and understand the format before I send out my first reply/email/message... In otherwords I have a lot of questions etc., because my Azorean/Sao Miguel tree goes back three or four generation to the point that we know which boat most of my gg- grandparents travelled to Hawaii on. I am going to start with a question to Celeste. In the message below you mention the St. Joseph cemetery in Hayward. Where is that located?? I grew up in Hayward (and now live in Castro Valley) Thanks, Eric Gomes -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Priestly Handwriting...
I'm afraid I now need to join the wave of folks here seeking help to decipher a long-ago priest's handwriting...in this case, from the 19th Century, from among the baptismal records for Urzelina on S. Jorge. I believe I have found the baptismal record for my maternal grandfather's father, Manuel Ignacio da Silva / Manuel Enos Sylvia. As an interesting historical sidenote, my great-grandfather operated a photography studio on Dartmouth Street in New Bedford, in his house right next to Rural Cemetery, with his clientele being the Portuguese community of the area. Apparently he became something of a de facto chronicler of the early 20th C. Portuguese community of New Bedford, because several relatives have reported often meeting new Portuguese- American acquaintances who, when they learn of the link to Manuel E. Sylvia, haul out old family photos taken by him, still in the cardboard frame marked with his studio's name. In any event, all we had known was his birth date, that he had come from S. Jorge aged around 18, and that he was the illegitimate son of one Ignacia, who in the U.S. later married an American named Smitz and disappeared from family memory but who had been a teenaged domestic when she was supposedly impregnated by her boss, whom the oral tradition in the family referred to as Eduardo da Silva, allegedly a judge or lawyer with a wife and family. Manuel's wife, Luiza da Silva / Louiza Sylvia, likewise was born illegitimate, to an Isabel who later married in the U.S. a Bento d'Oliveira, she also allegedly having been a teenaged domestic impregnated by the master of the house, in this case remembered as a Jorge da Silva, who was allegedly a lawyer or judge. (I.e., the two purported fathers, Eduardo and Jorge, were remembered as being a lawyer and a judge, but memories faded as to which was which.) In the CCA baptismal records for Urzelina I came across the following record I believe to be Manuel (because the birth date matches and he was from S. Jorge): Urzelina, Baptismos 1871-1879 Livro1 sjg.ve.ur.b- Livro 1874.002 http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/SJVUB1871-1879/SJVUB1871-1879_item1/P50.html I have transcribed as follows (using the original 19th C. orthography) what I could make out (and I read Portuguese fine, so the meaning isn't a problem, just the handwriting), but try as hard as I can to decipher it, some of the text remains inscrutable to me (i.e., wherever I have question marks): No. 1 Manoel Aos veinte oito dias do mes de Janeiro do anno de mil oito centos setenta e quatro n’esta Igreja Parochial de São Mattheus da Urzelina, Con- celho da Villa das Velas, Diocese d’Angra de sexo masculino, a quem dei o nome de Manoel, e que foi bapti- zado em caza, por perigo de vida, por Maria Thereza ???, moradora d’esta freguezia, filho natural de ?? e nasceu n’esta freguezia nas seis horas da tarde do dia veinte seis do referido mes e anno, filho natural de Ignacia Augusta Januaria, solteira, , natural d’esta freguezia ??? é parochiana, moradora no Caminho de [Cima?], neto paterno de avós [sic? why not avôs?] occultos, e materno de [José or João?] [Brum? Botelho?], e de Francisca Ignacia. Foi padrinho Au- gusto de [Moniz?], solteiro, trabalhador, natural da freguezia de Santa Cruz, Concelho da Lagôa na Ilha de São Miguel, Diocese supra referido, morador nesta freguezia de São Mattheus, ?? ? da Nossa Senhora das Dores com cuja corôa ?? cabeça do baptizado José Antonio da Silveira Barcellos, ???, ?? d’esta freguezia, os quais todos sei ??? os proprios ??? em duplicado este ???, que depois de [dez?] dias ? referido e padrinho comigo e não ? ??. O Conego Vigario Antonio [Nunes?] de ??? In addition, the reference to the padrinho from S. Miguel, Augusto the laborer, makes me wonder whether he was in fact the natural father. There's apparently no madrinha; would this have been unusual, naming a padrinho without a madrinha? I believe it was Pat Amaral who told me years ago that the biological father, if of some social stature, was often the padrinho, even when the father might be listed as pai incognito... Have others of you found that to be true? I'm fully prepared to accept that Eduardo da Silva and Jorge da Silva, the judge and the lawyer, may simply be family history fictions created to soften the illegitimate births of Manuel and Luiza and raise their perceived status. Being the first known lawyer in my family, though, I confess part of me hopes one or both of them was a judge or lawyer, a kindred spirit across the years... But is anyone aware of how one could find out the names of all judges and lawyers on S. Jorge during, say, the 1870's? If I could find such a resource, I ought to be able to locate any Eduardo da Silva and Jorge da Silva, if they actually existed... I'm thinking of contacting the Ordem de Advogados in Ponta Delgada to see if they have records back
