Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Microfilms discontinued

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Joao,
You can still order the film for a few more weeks. *If *they have extra
copies they will send them to you, they *will not* make new copies. The
next problem is, will your local FHC allow you to keep them on permanent
loan. My FHC has the room so they will allow me to keep what I have on
permanent loan, for now. Who know what will happen in the future!?

Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 9:53 AM, João Ventura  wrote:

> This is terrible news.
>
> The Portuguese archives are not available from FamilySearch, except for
> those with LDS accounts or some rare cases like Braga or Coimbra.
>
> There are books available in CCA where the image is so low resolution that
> I might as well be looking at it in Minecraft, and the only possibility to
> read them is to go to a FHC and ask for the microfilm.
>
> João Ventura
> http://tombo.pt/en
>
> On Friday, 4 August 2017 01:38:11 UTC+2, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> My understanding is that the Azorean Govenement must enter an agreement
>> with Family Search to allow the indexing to begin. I don't know if any such
>> agreement was made. Last I heard, negotiations between the Azorean
>> government and Family Search broke down. I don't know if any attempts have
>> been made again (from a couple of years ago).
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Pat Frade  wrote:
>>
>>> Please refer to this article: the microfilms are being discontinued.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://familysearch.org/blog/en/microfilm-distribution-disc
>>> ontinued-august-31-2017/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From my last post a few months ago, I think Rosemarie said that the
>>> microfilms are on disc. I think they need to be index so they can be put
>>> online and *searchable* (that is the key word).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would ask Cheri or Rosemarie to call the SLC Family History Library
>>> and ask the Portuguese Librarian to set up a time at the conference where
>>> we could meet together (maybe right after dinner) where questions can be
>>> asked/answered.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My understanding is very basic – but I am really pushing for these
>>> records to be indexed. What that mean – and please verify this with the
>>> librarian – we wouldn’t necessarily need to learn to read the old
>>> Portuguese script. We could type in a name, and the image will come up
>>> along with the “transcribe” information. I just looked up a name in
>>> FamilySearch – the name was Helen Evans, residence in California, and the
>>> top result was a census record, on the right side is the original document,
>>> and on the left side is the transcribe infor. On Ancestry you get the
>>> transcribed information, or it may look for a name in a document (like a
>>> newspaper).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The documents would have to be indexed (transcribed) by a person, I have
>>> seen it done. There is an army of people who are indexing records – my
>>> neighbor was working on the WWII veterans records. We just need to know IF
>>> the Azorean records have been indexed, if not where are they in the queue
>>> and if they are in the queue how many petitions would it take to move it
>>> forward.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Let’s talk more at the conference.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Pat Frade*
>>>
>>> Manuscript Cataloger
>>>
>>> 6741 Harold B. Lee Library
>>>
>>> Brigham Young University
>>>
>>> Provo, UT 84602
>>>
>>> 801-422-6730
>>>
>>> pat_...@byu.edu
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Casais das Flores e do Corvo no longer in Amazon - new book coming soon

[João Ventura]

Just got the book (finally).

It covers all the island. In comparison with the Casais book, it doesn't 
include Corvo, and it re-organizes all the data in a classical descendents 
report format.

I'm attaching an image of some people that may ring a bell to you Eric.

My opinion of it? It should be an ebook... I want to search names, and I 
don't want to read and turn 782 pages each time.

Thankfully, the author seems to have realized that it's better to leave the 
book in amazon, so I'd still recommend to buy that one as well: 
https://www.amazon.com/Casais-das-Flores-Corvo-Portuguese-ebook/dp/B00AQAOOF6

During the process to buy the book, I got a list from the Lajes city hall 
that indicates they have a lot of other of Francisco Gomes's books still 
for sale in the dead tree version.

Best regards,

João Ventura
http://tombo.pt/en


On
 
Tuesday, 18 July 2017 03:47:49 UTC+2, luiznoia wrote:
>
> Ron da Silva just sent word from Flores, he attended the book dedication.
>
> It is 782 pages , covering the Concelho of Santa Cruz.
>
> Eric Edgar
>
> On Jul 5, 2017 10:26 AM, "Margaret Vicente"  > wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Joao.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Cheri Mello > > wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you! Keep us posted! I will ask Family Search to obtain a copy too.
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira 
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 9:41 AM, João Ventura >> > wrote:
>>>
 Got some updated info.

 The book will be released in July 14th at 20:00. Apparently it costs 
 €10.. I'll reserve my judgment on this price once I get my hands on it.

 I've asked Lajes City Hall for details on how to order outside of 
 Portugal.

 João


 On Wednesday, 7 June 2017 14:00:48 UTC+1, João Ventura wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Some good news (and bad) for all those doing research in Flores. 
> Francisco Gomes will release a new book in mid-July during the Festa do 
> Emigrante.
>
> The bad news is that as preparation for this, he pulled the "Casais 
> das Flores e do Corvo" ebook from Amazon. It seems it's still available 
> in 
> iTunes and Barnes, but he may pull them out of there as well. If 
> you 
> ever do research in Flores, I recommend that you get the ebook while it's 
> still available: 
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/casais-das-flores-e-do-corvo/id588378486 
> https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/casais-das-flores-e-do-corvo-francisco-gomes/1114254163?ean=9789892034348
>
> Best regards,
>
> João C. Ventura
> http://tombo.pt/en
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Microfilms discontinued

[João Ventura]

No, I'm talking about the church records (baptism, marriage and obits).

João

On Friday, 18 August 2017 19:10:30 UTC+2, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote:
>
> *Joao,  Could you clarify this. When you say the books you are not talking 
> about the church records. Do I understand this correctly?*
>
> *Rick*
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Epping, NH*
>
>  
>
> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and 
> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> azo...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *João Ventura
> *Sent:* Friday, August 18, 2017 12:53 PM
> *To:* Azores Genealogy
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Microfilms discontinued
>
>  
>
> This is terrible news.
>
>  
>
> The Portuguese archives are not available from FamilySearch, except for 
> those with LDS accounts or some rare cases like Braga or Coimbra.
>
>  
>
> There are books available in CCA where the image is so low resolution that 
> I might as well be looking at it in Minecraft, and the only possibility to 
> read them is to go to a FHC and ask for the microfilm.
>
>  
>
> João Ventura
>
> http://tombo.pt/en
>
>
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] An old one, but pretty from 1650 - parents of Apelonia Dias de Borba?

[Eric Souza]

Here's another that has extended my tree ... can someone help me identify 
the names of the parents of Apelonia Dias de Borba?

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1631-1696/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1631-1696_item1/P12.html

It's the second one on the left ...

Diogo, fo de Joao Nunes Bello (defunto) e de Maria de Almeida
Appellonia Dias de Borba, fa de Antonio ?? e Andreza Jorge?

Thanks for the look!

- Eric

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Parents of Antonio Caetano de Azevedo

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Yep, good luck with your searching!

Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Eric Souza 
wrote:

> It helps so much to have the freguesias, especially when the names can be
> all over the place!! :) Obrigada, Prima! :)
>
> On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 2:21:00 PM UTC-7, rcapodc wrote:
>>
>> Eric,
>> It's just crazy, sometimes the names on the marriage are one thing and
>> then on the baptisms they add or subtract! That's why you should always try
>> all combinations. I have Vitorino de Azevedo Bettencourt & Maria da
>> Conceicao that I was looking for in Sao Jorge. Tried, Vitorino de Azevedo,
>> Azevedo, Bettencourt, nothing. Then I thought,okay,they are not in the Sao
>> Jorge Marriage Index maybe they are in the Terceira index. Sure enough,
>> there they are, Vitorino de Azevedo & Maria da Conceicao do Coracao de
>> Jesus! So, he dropped Bettencourt, she added Coracao de Jesus but it's
>> them. I went to the doc and sure enough they are both from the Church of
>> Nossa Senhora das Neves, Sao Jorge (Norte Grande)! You just never know what
>> you may find. Try all combinations and check all indexes you have available
>> to you.
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Eric Souza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you! I realized that after posting and tried to delete post, but
>>> was too late. :)
>>>
>>> The marriage index shows me Inacia Rosa da Silveira and Antonio Machado
>>> Viera here:
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-
>>> RIBEIRASECA-C-1803-1822/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1803-1822_item1/P60.html
>>>
>>> Wow, that index is handy!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 1:28:52 PM UTC-7, rcapodc wrote:

 Mom is just Maria de Jesus, no surname. Inacia Rosa doesn't have a
 surname on this one but she may pick it up in later docs.


 Rosemarie
 rcap...@gmail.com
 Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
 Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

 On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Eric Souza 
 wrote:

> In the top right of this one, for the parents of Antonio Caetano de
> Azevedo, I see the pai incognito, but can anyone make out a last name for
> his mother? Maria ... ??
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-
> RIBEIRASECA-C-1822-1849/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1822-1849_item1/P126.html
>
> This document also confirms for me Barbara Emilia da Silveira's
> parents - Antonio Machado Viera and Inacia Rosa Silveira ...
>
> Anything else interesting that you guys can make out?
>
> The marriage index is going to give me SO MUCH to go on. Thank you
> again, researchers.
>
> - Eric
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Signing Name

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

It seems that, once again,  we have gotten away from signing our names to
our posts. Please sign your first name, at least, to your posts. I find it
really getting crazy when there is a 20 post thread and no names just email
addys to identify who wrote the post! I'm getting too old to try and
remember who is who by their email address!! If you are on gmail, you can
go to settings and scroll down to 'signature' and type in your first name
and anything else you may want to add (I put the places I am researching).
This way you never have to *remember* to sign your name, it will always be
there!
Thank you all,
Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Parents of Antonio Caetano de Azevedo

[Eric Souza]

It helps so much to have the freguesias, especially when the names can be 
all over the place!! :) Obrigada, Prima! :)

On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 2:21:00 PM UTC-7, rcapodc wrote:
>
> Eric,
> It's just crazy, sometimes the names on the marriage are one thing and 
> then on the baptisms they add or subtract! That's why you should always try 
> all combinations. I have Vitorino de Azevedo Bettencourt & Maria da 
> Conceicao that I was looking for in Sao Jorge. Tried, Vitorino de Azevedo, 
> Azevedo, Bettencourt, nothing. Then I thought,okay,they are not in the Sao 
> Jorge Marriage Index maybe they are in the Terceira index. Sure enough, 
> there they are, Vitorino de Azevedo & Maria da Conceicao do Coracao de 
> Jesus! So, he dropped Bettencourt, she added Coracao de Jesus but it's 
> them. I went to the doc and sure enough they are both from the Church of 
> Nossa Senhora das Neves, Sao Jorge (Norte Grande)! You just never know what 
> you may find. Try all combinations and check all indexes you have available 
> to you. 
>
> Rosemarie 
> rcap...@gmail.com 
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Eric Souza  > wrote:
>
>> Thank you! I realized that after posting and tried to delete post, but 
>> was too late. :) 
>>
>> The marriage index shows me Inacia Rosa da Silveira and Antonio Machado 
>> Viera here: 
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1803-1822/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1803-1822_item1/P60.html
>>
>> Wow, that index is handy!
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 1:28:52 PM UTC-7, rcapodc wrote:
>>>
>>> Mom is just Maria de Jesus, no surname. Inacia Rosa doesn't have a 
>>> surname on this one but she may pick it up in later docs. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Rosemarie 
>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Eric Souza  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 In the top right of this one, for the parents of Antonio Caetano de 
 Azevedo, I see the pai incognito, but can anyone make out a last name for 
 his mother? Maria ... ?? 


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1822-1849/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1822-1849_item1/P126.html

 This document also confirms for me Barbara Emilia da Silveira's parents 
 - Antonio Machado Viera and Inacia Rosa Silveira ... 

 Anything else interesting that you guys can make out?

 The marriage index is going to give me SO MUCH to go on. Thank you 
 again, researchers.

 - Eric

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Microfilms discontinued

[João Ventura]

This is terrible news.

The Portuguese archives are not available from FamilySearch, except for 
those with LDS accounts or some rare cases like Braga or Coimbra.

There are books available in CCA where the image is so low resolution that 
I might as well be looking at it in Minecraft, and the only possibility to 
read them is to go to a FHC and ask for the microfilm.

João Ventura
http://tombo.pt/en

On Friday, 4 August 2017 01:38:11 UTC+2, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> My understanding is that the Azorean Govenement must enter an agreement 
> with Family Search to allow the indexing to begin. I don't know if any such 
> agreement was made. Last I heard, negotiations between the Azorean 
> government and Family Search broke down. I don't know if any attempts have 
> been made again (from a couple of years ago).
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Pat Frade  
> wrote:
>
>> Please refer to this article: the microfilms are being discontinued.
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>> https://familysearch.org/blog/en/microfilm-distribution-discontinued-august-31-2017/
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> From my last post a few months ago, I think Rosemarie said that the 
>> microfilms are on disc. I think they need to be index so they can be put 
>> online and *searchable* (that is the key word).
>>
>>  
>>
>> I would ask Cheri or Rosemarie to call the SLC Family History Library and 
>> ask the Portuguese Librarian to set up a time at the conference where we 
>> could meet together (maybe right after dinner) where questions can be 
>> asked/answered.
>>
>>  
>>
>> My understanding is very basic – but I am really pushing for these 
>> records to be indexed. What that mean – and please verify this with the 
>> librarian – we wouldn’t necessarily need to learn to read the old 
>> Portuguese script. We could type in a name, and the image will come up 
>> along with the “transcribe” information. I just looked up a name in 
>> FamilySearch – the name was Helen Evans, residence in California, and the 
>> top result was a census record, on the right side is the original document, 
>> and on the left side is the transcribe infor. On Ancestry you get the 
>> transcribed information, or it may look for a name in a document (like a 
>> newspaper).
>>
>>  
>>
>> The documents would have to be indexed (transcribed) by a person, I have 
>> seen it done. There is an army of people who are indexing records – my 
>> neighbor was working on the WWII veterans records. We just need to know IF 
>> the Azorean records have been indexed, if not where are they in the queue 
>> and if they are in the queue how many petitions would it take to move it 
>> forward.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Let’s talk more at the conference.
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Pat Frade*
>>
>> Manuscript Cataloger
>>
>> 6741 Harold B. Lee Library
>>
>> Brigham Young University
>>
>> Provo, UT 84602
>>
>> 801-422-6730
>>
>> pat_...@byu.edu  
>>
>>  
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Microfilms discontinued

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Joao,  Could you clarify this. When you say the books you are not talking about 
the church records. Do I understand this correctly?

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
João Ventura
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 12:53 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Microfilms discontinued

 

This is terrible news.

 

The Portuguese archives are not available from FamilySearch, except for those 
with LDS accounts or some rare cases like Braga or Coimbra.

 

There are books available in CCA where the image is so low resolution that I 
might as well be looking at it in Minecraft, and the only possibility to read 
them is to go to a FHC and ask for the microfilm.

 

João Ventura

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] An old one, but pretty from 1650 - parents of Apelonia Dias de Borba?

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Eric,
She is the daughter of Antonio Alvarez and Andreza Jorge.

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Eric Souza 
wrote:

> Here's another that has extended my tree ... can someone help me identify
> the names of the parents of Apelonia Dias de Borba?
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-
> CH-CALHETA-C-1631-1696/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1631-1696_item1/P12.html
>
> It's the second one on the left ...
>
> Diogo, fo de Joao Nunes Bello (defunto) e de Maria de Almeida
> Appellonia Dias de Borba, fa de Antonio ?? e Andreza Jorge?
>
> Thanks for the look!
>
> - Eric
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Microfilms discontinued

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Ok we are talking about the Church records (baptism, marriage, and obits) that 
we currently view on Tombo and CCA.  Then If I try to view these records 
through Family Search the quality will be poor but if we view them through 
Tombo and CCA they will be the same as we see today?

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
João Ventura
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 1:44 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Microfilms discontinued

 

No, I'm talking about the church records (baptism, marriage and obits).

 

João

On Friday, 18 August 2017 19:10:30 UTC+2, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote:

Joao,  Could you clarify this. When you say the books you are not talking about 
the church records. Do I understand this correctly?

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azo...@googlegroups.com   [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com 
 ] On Behalf Of João Ventura
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 12:53 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Microfilms discontinued

 

This is terrible news.

 

The Portuguese archives are not available from FamilySearch, except for those 
with LDS accounts or some rare cases like Braga or Coimbra.

 

There are books available in CCA where the image is so low resolution that I 
might as well be looking at it in Minecraft, and the only possibility to read 
them is to go to a FHC and ask for the microfilm.

 

João Ventura

http://tombo.pt/en

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: *****Sao Jorge Marriage Index online

[Azores Genealogy group]

Great job. May thanks to all involved. Tony Amarant

On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 12:00:08 PM UTC+10, Kathy Cardoza wrote:
>
> it is my pleasure to announce a major, new addition to the Azores GenWeb 
> …… the Sao Jorge Marriage Index. This has been a long and difficult project 
> undertaken by a group of dedicated researchers and coordinated by Jeremy 
> Berry-Cahn. This index covers all 11 freguesias of Sao Jorge and is a 
> searchable PDF. Every effort has been made to insure accuracy. Please use 
> any index as a starting point only, and always verify with the original 
> record. If you find this index to be helpful, please express your 
> appreciation to all the volunteers who gave so much of their time and 
> efforts to it.
>
>
> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/maps-churches-and-villages/sao-jorge/sao-jorge-indexing/
>
> Good luck and happy hunting!
>
> Kathy Cardoza
> Coordinator, Azores GenWeb
> ~~~
> Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
> http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html
> ~~~
>
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] An old one, but pretty from 1650 - parents of Apelonia Dias de Borba?

[Shirley Allegre]

This is what I see:

13 Feb 1650,  Calheta
Diogo Nunes Bello
(Joao Nunes Bello, dec.  X Maria de Almeida), freguesia Nossa Senhora Rosario
SPOUSE
Appelonia Dias de Borba
(Antonio Alvares X Andreza Jorge), this freguesia (Calheta)
TESTIMONY
Francisco de Silveira? de Avila, freguesia Ribeira Seca
Joao Luis Pereira
CAPTAIN MOR Pedro Luis Pereira?
Catharina Machada
Simao Rois de Borba

Hope this helps. Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric Souza 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 10:36 AM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] An old one, but pretty from 1650 - parents of 
Apelonia Dias de Borba?


  Here's another that has extended my tree ... can someone help me identify the 
names of the parents of Apelonia Dias de Borba?


  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1631-1696/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1631-1696_item1/P12.html



  It's the second one on the left ...


  Diogo, fo de Joao Nunes Bello (defunto) e de Maria de Almeida
  Appellonia Dias de Borba, fa de Antonio ?? e Andreza Jorge?


  Thanks for the look!


  - Eric

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] An old one, but pretty from 1650 - parents of Apelonia Dias de Borba?

[Eric Souza]

You guys are great - thank you!!

This new index is really amazing ... sorry if I'm overdoing it on posting 
and asking for help ...

- Eric

On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 1:00:51 PM UTC-7, Shirley Allegre wrote:
>
> This is what I see:
>  
> 13 Feb 1650,  Calheta
> Diogo Nunes Bello
> (Joao Nunes Bello, dec.  X Maria de Almeida), freguesia Nossa Senhora 
> Rosario
> SPOUSE
> Appelonia Dias de Borba
> (Antonio Alvares X Andreza Jorge), this freguesia (Calheta)
> TESTIMONY
> Francisco de Silveira? de Avila, freguesia Ribeira Seca
> Joao Luis Pereira
> CAPTAIN MOR Pedro Luis Pereira?
> Catharina Machada
> Simao Rois de Borba
>  
> Hope this helps. Shirley in CA
>
>
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] An old one, but pretty from 1650 - parents 
> of Apelonia Dias de Borba?
>
> Here's another that has extended my tree ... can someone help me identify 
> the names of the parents of Apelonia Dias de Borba? 
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1631-1696/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1631-1696_item1/P12.html
>
> It's the second one on the left ...
>
> Diogo, fo de Joao Nunes Bello (defunto) e de Maria de Almeida
> Appellonia Dias de Borba, fa de Antonio ?? e Andreza Jorge?
>
> Thanks for the look!
>
> - Eric
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Microfilms discontinued

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Joao, I forgot to mention, if you are in your local FHC, just ask one of
the LDS people to get you into the site with the Azores Records and then
you can search. It is very slow-going and tedious but sometimes looking at
the black on white is easier to read than the scanned docs on the CCA. At
this point, you will not be able to access the records from home.


Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 9:53 AM, João Ventura  wrote:

> This is terrible news.
>
> The Portuguese archives are not available from FamilySearch, except for
> those with LDS accounts or some rare cases like Braga or Coimbra.
>
> There are books available in CCA where the image is so low resolution that
> I might as well be looking at it in Minecraft, and the only possibility to
> read them is to go to a FHC and ask for the microfilm.
>
> João Ventura
> http://tombo.pt/en
>
> On Friday, 4 August 2017 01:38:11 UTC+2, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> My understanding is that the Azorean Govenement must enter an agreement
>> with Family Search to allow the indexing to begin. I don't know if any such
>> agreement was made. Last I heard, negotiations between the Azorean
>> government and Family Search broke down. I don't know if any attempts have
>> been made again (from a couple of years ago).
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Pat Frade  wrote:
>>
>>> Please refer to this article: the microfilms are being discontinued.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://familysearch.org/blog/en/microfilm-distribution-disc
>>> ontinued-august-31-2017/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From my last post a few months ago, I think Rosemarie said that the
>>> microfilms are on disc. I think they need to be index so they can be put
>>> online and *searchable* (that is the key word).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would ask Cheri or Rosemarie to call the SLC Family History Library
>>> and ask the Portuguese Librarian to set up a time at the conference where
>>> we could meet together (maybe right after dinner) where questions can be
>>> asked/answered.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My understanding is very basic – but I am really pushing for these
>>> records to be indexed. What that mean – and please verify this with the
>>> librarian – we wouldn’t necessarily need to learn to read the old
>>> Portuguese script. We could type in a name, and the image will come up
>>> along with the “transcribe” information. I just looked up a name in
>>> FamilySearch – the name was Helen Evans, residence in California, and the
>>> top result was a census record, on the right side is the original document,
>>> and on the left side is the transcribe infor. On Ancestry you get the
>>> transcribed information, or it may look for a name in a document (like a
>>> newspaper).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The documents would have to be indexed (transcribed) by a person, I have
>>> seen it done. There is an army of people who are indexing records – my
>>> neighbor was working on the WWII veterans records. We just need to know IF
>>> the Azorean records have been indexed, if not where are they in the queue
>>> and if they are in the queue how many petitions would it take to move it
>>> forward.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Let’s talk more at the conference.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Pat Frade*
>>>
>>> Manuscript Cataloger
>>>
>>> 6741 Harold B. Lee Library
>>>
>>> Brigham Young University
>>>
>>> Provo, UT 84602
>>>
>>> 801-422-6730
>>>
>>> pat_...@byu.edu
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] mtDNA testing

[Sandra Perez]

Thank you Rick,

Now, I have a better understanding.

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 5:43 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> *An exact match would be 0 (meaning all markers are the same).  With your
> exact matches look for location their most distant ancestor lived if it
> matches the location of your most distant ancestor then you have a real
> good match and you should pursue the paper trail to try and connect them. *
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Sandra Perez
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 16, 2017 8:30 PM
> *To:* Azores Genealogy Google Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] mtDNA testing
>
>
>
> Cheri,
>
> I get mtDNA matches all the time.  It used to show a whole bunch.  Then it
> started showing only 3 matches. I do recall
>
> you saying that changes to FTDNA would show fewer matches--I can't
> remember why.
>
> Now, I have *4* Matches!  I have the distances' 0, 0, 1, & 3.  Is "0" the
> best match or would it be a higher number?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> Repost for Ava, netasdosacores at gmail.com
>
> mtDNA is just as important as the Guys taking the Y, only that with the
> Female line the surname changes with each generation, and that can get
> frustrating.   The test results are only as good as how many have tested.
> Without going into a lot of boring details, after years of "speculating"
> how a group of Family Finder matches match to our Family, we finally found
> a Female descendant of Mary, daughter our Matriarch. On the MTFULL Sequence
> Test - Mary's female descendant matched to the other family's female
> descendant at a distance of "0" which we were thrilled, and  excited that
> we finally know how these two lines connect.  Of course, we now have to
> find the paperwork that will explain their connection, sisters?
> Mother/Daughter? Aunt/Niece? or earlier in time.
>
>
>
> AVA
>
> Vieira Anselmo - Sao Miguel
>
> Pinheiro Nunes - Faial
>
>
> ALLY Vieira Anselmo/Pinheiro
>
> Sao Miguel & Faial
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Steven Silvia

['Iris Bilodeau' via Azores Genealogy]

Does anyone know the whereabouts of Steven Silvia?  He did Azorean research for 
me over 20 years ago and seems to have vanished from the face of the earth.  I 
would love to reconnect with him.Obrigada in advance,Iris Cabral Bilodeau

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Steven Silvia

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Iris, Steven passed away about 10 or so years ago of cancer. I talked to
him quite a bit during the year that he was so sick. He was a very good
genealogist and helped me greatly when I was starting out.


Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

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azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know the whereabouts of Steven Silvia?  He did Azorean
> research for me over 20 years ago and seems to have vanished from the face
> of the earth.  I would love to reconnect with him.
> Obrigada in advance,
> Iris Cabral Bilodeau
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Microfilms discontinued

[Walt Teixeira]

My understanding is that after August 31st there will be no more shipping 
of microfilms - period.  Records that have already been digitized will be 
available at the Family History Centers - on line.  Those that have not 
been digitized are expected to be done by 2020 when everything the church 
has is scheduled to be digitized (all records which were on microfilm).  It 
is interesting to note that the LDS church has some records that the 
Portuguese archives do not (some missing years - Graciosa for one that I 
know of).

Indexing is another story.  Anyone can volunteer to be an indexer.  I have 
indexed a number of Portuguese records, mostly from Brazil.  If there are 
more indexers of Portuguese records, I'm sure that they will continue to 
put up more Portuguese records in the queue.  That's how to get it moving - 
volunteer on FamilySearch.org and look for indexing.  You then pick the 
project that you want to participate in of those available and you do it at 
your own pace and in your spare time.

Walt Teixeira
Graciosa and continental Portugal

On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 1:38:40 PM UTC-5, Pat Frade wrote:
>
> Please refer to this article: the microfilms are being discontinued.
>
>  
>
>
> https://familysearch.org/blog/en/microfilm-distribution-discontinued-august-31-2017/
>  
>
>  
>
> From my last post a few months ago, I think Rosemarie said that the 
> microfilms are on disc. I think they need to be index so they can be put 
> online and *searchable* (that is the key word).
>
>  
>
> I would ask Cheri or Rosemarie to call the SLC Family History Library and 
> ask the Portuguese Librarian to set up a time at the conference where we 
> could meet together (maybe right after dinner) where questions can be 
> asked/answered.
>
>  
>
> My understanding is very basic – but I am really pushing for these records 
> to be indexed. What that mean – and please verify this with the librarian – 
> we wouldn’t necessarily need to learn to read the old Portuguese script. We 
> could type in a name, and the image will come up along with the 
> “transcribe” information. I just looked up a name in FamilySearch – the 
> name was Helen Evans, residence in California, and the top result was a 
> census record, on the right side is the original document, and on the left 
> side is the transcribe infor. On Ancestry you get the transcribed 
> information, or it may look for a name in a document (like a newspaper).
>
>  
>
> The documents would have to be indexed (transcribed) by a person, I have 
> seen it done. There is an army of people who are indexing records – my 
> neighbor was working on the WWII veterans records. We just need to know IF 
> the Azorean records have been indexed, if not where are they in the queue 
> and if they are in the queue how many petitions would it take to move it 
> forward.
>
>  
>
> Let’s talk more at the conference.
>
>  
>
> *Pat Frade*
>
> Manuscript Cataloger
>
> 6741 Harold B. Lee Library
>
> Brigham Young University
>
> Provo, UT 84602
>
> 801-422-6730
>
> pat_...@byu.edu  
>
>  
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Names

[Sme]

Evening everyone.What is the name of the child.  Bottom right.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1698-1716/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1698-1716_item1/P183.html


Theresa's parents' name:   Manuel  ?   de Sousa and Maria  Gato?
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1698-1716/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1698-1716_item1/P173.html


Bottom right Pascoal's father's name:   Andre ?
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1698-1716/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1698-1716_item1/P179.html



Bottom right,  Maria's father's name:  Joao  ?
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1698-1716/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1698-1716_item1/P181.html

Thank you.
Suzanne

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Steven Silvia

[Cheri Mello]

The guy that lived somewhere around San Francisco? I heard he passed away :(

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know the whereabouts of Steven Silvia?  He did Azorean
> research for me over 20 years ago and seems to have vanished from the face
> of the earth.  I would love to reconnect with him.
> Obrigada in advance,
> Iris Cabral Bilodeau
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation of Joao Machado de Azevedo and Isabel Silveira de Azevedo

[Kellie Crnkovich]

Ok second attempt at translating Can someone translate this underline 
section and the margin note for me?

I get to the father and it Looks like it is Manuel Silveira Machado (I 
have Capitao Manuel Sliveira de Azevedo Looks like I need to change his 
marriage records also say Manuel Silveira Machado) but I see it is 
underlined and a margin note I can't read completely see below. Mother 
Maria Silveira __ (marriage for her looks like Maria 
Silveira do
 Sao Joaquim), a Isabel Silveira de Azevedo daughter of Antonio Silveira da 
Souza and Mother Maria Bernarda


Margin note: I got

Son of Nicholau Silveira ___, Maria de Azevedo daughter of Sargento 
Mor Antonio de Azevedo Teixeira son of Manuel de Azevedo Teixeira and Ana 
Dias de Lemos, son of Capitao Mor de Azevedo and Maria ?Vaz(r)?. _ Rita 
da _, ___ da _Azevedo Leonardo, _ 
Capittao Mor __ Manuel ___ de ?Azevedo? and Isabel Silveira

Bottom right hand page
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1781-1819/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1781-1819_item1/P150.html

Thank you so much
Kellie Crnkovich
Sao Jorge and Pico 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Microfilms discontinued

[Liz Migliori]

Oh noo

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> On Aug 18, 2017, at 12:53 PM, João Ventura  wrote:
> 
> This is terrible news.
> 
> The Portuguese archives are not available from FamilySearch, except for those 
> with LDS accounts or some rare cases like Braga or Coimbra.
> 
> There are books available in CCA where the image is so low resolution that I 
> might as well be looking at it in Minecraft, and the only possibility to read 
> them is to go to a FHC and ask for the microfilm.
> 
> João Ventura
> http://tombo.pt/en
> 
>> On Friday, 4 August 2017 01:38:11 UTC+2, Cheri Mello wrote:
>> My understanding is that the Azorean Govenement must enter an agreement with 
>> Family Search to allow the indexing to begin. I don't know if any such 
>> agreement was made. Last I heard, negotiations between the Azorean 
>> government and Family Search broke down. I don't know if any attempts have 
>> been made again (from a couple of years ago).
>> 
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Pat Frade  wrote:
>>> Please refer to this article: the microfilms are being discontinued.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> https://familysearch.org/blog/en/microfilm-distribution-discontinued-august-31-2017/
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From my last post a few months ago, I think Rosemarie said that the 
>>> microfilms are on disc. I think they need to be index so they can be put 
>>> online and searchable (that is the key word).
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I would ask Cheri or Rosemarie to call the SLC Family History Library and 
>>> ask the Portuguese Librarian to set up a time at the conference where we 
>>> could meet together (maybe right after dinner) where questions can be 
>>> asked/answered.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> My understanding is very basic – but I am really pushing for these records 
>>> to be indexed. What that mean – and please verify this with the librarian – 
>>> we wouldn’t necessarily need to learn to read the old Portuguese script. We 
>>> could type in a name, and the image will come up along with the 
>>> “transcribe” information. I just looked up a name in FamilySearch – the 
>>> name was Helen Evans, residence in California, and the top result was a 
>>> census record, on the right side is the original document, and on the left 
>>> side is the transcribe infor. On Ancestry you get the transcribed 
>>> information, or it may look for a name in a document (like a newspaper).
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The documents would have to be indexed (transcribed) by a person, I have 
>>> seen it done. There is an army of people who are indexing records – my 
>>> neighbor was working on the WWII veterans records. We just need to know IF 
>>> the Azorean records have been indexed, if not where are they in the queue 
>>> and if they are in the queue how many petitions would it take to move it 
>>> forward.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Let’s talk more at the conference.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Pat Frade
>>> 
>>> Manuscript Cataloger
>>> 
>>> 6741 Harold B. Lee Library
>>> 
>>> Brigham Young University
>>> 
>>> Provo, UT 84602
>>> 
>>> 801-422-6730
>>> 
>>> pat_...@byu.edu
>>> 
>>>  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation

[Kellie Crnkovich]

Thank you so much for the Sao Jorge Marriage index I am going through it 
now and at my first time trying to translate what it is says. I am not 
doing very good at figuring this out.  Hopefully the more I do the better I 
will get.  Can someone please translate this record. It is the second 
record marriage of Jose Machado de Avila and Maria Francesca de Jesus. 
 Thank you so much

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1803-1822/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1803-1822_item1/P34.html


Kellie Crnkovich
Marianna Avila Sao Jorge
Manuel Pereira Silva Pico

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Mother's name

[Sme]

What is the name of the mother in this one.  Bottom right.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-
CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1698-1716/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1698-1716_item1/P183.html

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mother's name

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Boy that's so faint. The last name is Machado, first MAY be Cecilia spelled
with S's!

Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 8:44 PM, Sme  wrote:

> What is the name of the mother in this one.  Bottom right.
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-
> RIBEIRASECA-B-1698-1716/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1698-1716_item1/P183.html
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] *****Sao Jorge Marriage Index online

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I will agree with that Susan, I was looking at the microfilm over 20 years ago 
and since the records have come on line I have found lots of errors from that 
time. Most all for the good.

Rick

 

From: 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 11:04 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] *Sao Jorge Marriage Index online

 

I finally had a chance last night to compare some of the marriages that I 
researched years ago in Velas, with the new databases that were worked on by 
some dedicated people. I found a couple of corrections that I reported  to some 
names (I have the advantage of having searched for the children of my ancestors 
which helps to validate names). But I also found that I had an error in a 
date that the database brought to my attention! So it works both ways and I am 
grateful! I originally looked at these records using microfilm and it's great 
to be able to enlarge each element Jeesh I know I should go through each 
and every record of my ancestry! 

 

Anyway I wanted to give my thanks Jeremy and Kathy and to all who worked on 
this database! 

 

Susan Vargas Murphy

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On Aug 15, 2017, at 7:00 PM, Kathy Cardoza  wrote:

it is my pleasure to announce a major, new addition to the Azores GenWeb …… the 
Sao Jorge Marriage Index. This has been a long and difficult project undertaken 
by a group of dedicated researchers and coordinated by Jeremy Berry-Cahn. This 
index covers all 11 freguesias of Sao Jorge and is a searchable PDF. Every 
effort has been made to insure accuracy. Please use any index as a starting 
point only, and always verify with the original record. If you find this index 
to be helpful, please express your appreciation to all the volunteers who gave 
so much of their time and efforts to it.

 

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/maps-churches-and-villages/sao-jorge/sao-jorge-indexing/

 

Good luck and happy hunting!

 

Kathy Cardoza

Coordinator, Azores GenWeb

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ***** Ribeira Seca Baptism Index on Azores GenWeb

[climbatree2]

There wasn't enough room for Kathy to put the whole xcel columns up.  In my 
original xcel  I listed grandparents (if there were any listed),  what 
their native place of birth was (if listed),  and  the parents of the 
godparents and/or husbands/wives were listed.  Sometimes the record stated 
the godfather with a sister or niece or stepdaughter.   

On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 7:07:08 AM UTC-7, climb...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> That is exactly what it means.   The name to the right of the godmother is 
> the father  and or the father and mother of the godparents.
>
> On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 2:33:33 PM UTC-7, Judy Thompson wrote:
>>
>> I love both indexes.  Was able to find great grandparents marriage even 
>> though last name different.  From birth index, under godmother's name it 
>> says "both children of".  Not clear what that means.  My best guess was 
>> that both godparents are children of man listed in column to right of 
>> godmother but not sure.  Record is on page 11 of 1676-1698 Ribeira Seca 
>> birth index, first line numbered 0031 for Maria, b. 6 Sep 1685. Thx.
>>
>> Judy Thompson
>>
>> On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 6:51:24 AM UTC-7, Kathy Cardoza wrote:
>>
>>> Another recent addition to the Azores GenWeb is the Baptisms for Ribeira 
>>> Seca, Sao Jorge, 1623-1716. These were contributed by Suzanne Edvalson and 
>>> are a work in progress. Thank you, Suzanne, for sharing your efforts with 
>>> everyone else!
>>>
>>> Kathy Cardoza
>>> Coordinator, Azores GenWeb
>>> ~~~
>>> Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html
>>> ~~~
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ***** Ribeira Seca Baptism Index on Azores GenWeb

[climbatree2]

I would appreciate corrections.   Some of the abbreviated names were best 
guesses on my part, until someone started mentioning them here.  I haven't 
gone back through the records and made corrections.   LOL.  One of the 
reasons I sometimes have posts here.

Suzanne

On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 6:51:24 AM UTC-7, Kathy Cardoza wrote:
>
> Another recent addition to the Azores GenWeb is the Baptisms for Ribeira 
> Seca, Sao Jorge, 1623-1716. These were contributed by Suzanne Edvalson and 
> are a work in progress. Thank you, Suzanne, for sharing your efforts with 
> everyone else!
>
> Kathy Cardoza
> Coordinator, Azores GenWeb
> ~~~
> Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
> http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html
> ~~~
>
>
>
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Gonçalves, Graciosa, 1650

[Eliseu Pacheco da Silva]

Hi!

Does anyone have further information on Francisco Gonçalves, Graciosa, 1650?

It is said he is my earliest known ancestor… but I do not know how…

Any help will be very much appreciated.

 

Muito Obrigado,

Eliseu Pacheco da Silva

“Sharing is one of the most profitable human resources” 

Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo

(   http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ***** Ribeira Seca Baptism Index on Azores GenWeb

[climbatree2]

That is exactly what it means.   The name to the right of the godmother is 
the father  and or the father and mother of the godparents.

On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 2:33:33 PM UTC-7, Judy Thompson wrote:
>
> I love both indexes.  Was able to find great grandparents marriage even 
> though last name different.  From birth index, under godmother's name it 
> says "both children of".  Not clear what that means.  My best guess was 
> that both godparents are children of man listed in column to right of 
> godmother but not sure.  Record is on page 11 of 1676-1698 Ribeira Seca 
> birth index, first line numbered 0031 for Maria, b. 6 Sep 1685. Thx.
>
> Judy Thompson
>
> On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 6:51:24 AM UTC-7, Kathy Cardoza wrote:
>
>> Another recent addition to the Azores GenWeb is the Baptisms for Ribeira 
>> Seca, Sao Jorge, 1623-1716. These were contributed by Suzanne Edvalson and 
>> are a work in progress. Thank you, Suzanne, for sharing your efforts with 
>> everyone else!
>>
>> Kathy Cardoza
>> Coordinator, Azores GenWeb
>> ~~~
>> Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html
>> ~~~
>>
>>
>>
>>

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with baptism

[mnk]

I believe the name is Leocadia.  Her parents were married in the same church, 
baby baptized on the 15th of July, 1832. Padrinhos (godparents) Domingos da 
Sylva and his sister D.(Dona) Rosa do Coração de Jesus, children of Manuel 
(something) de Athaide.
MNK

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