Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record

[Cory G.]

Thanks Shirley! 

On Saturday, January 5, 2019 at 9:03:54 PM UTC-5, Shirley Allegre wrote:
>
> This is what I see:
> Maria
> born at 7:00 a.m.
> daughter of:
> (Manoel de Sousa, pedreiro=stonemason
> X Antonia de Medeiros)
> PATERNAL
> Manoel da Sousa Matheus X Antonia Juliana
> MATERNAL
> Francisco de Medeiros X Rosa Jacintha
> GODPARENTS
> Manoel da Silva  &  Albina de Jesus
>  
> Shirley in CA
>
> - Original Message - 
> *From:* Cory G.  
> *To:* Azores Genealogy  
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 03, 2019 8:22 AM
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record
>
> Hi im looking for help with this record, its not the cleanest thing to 
> read.
>
> Its for Maria Medeiros De Sousa, Possible birthdate is 15 Oct 1876
>
> Parents Manuel de Sousa Matheus Bispo and Antonia do Conceicao de Jesus 
> (Religious name?) 
>
> Figure maybe someones eyes and Portuguese might be better than mine :)
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record

[Shirley Allegre]

This is what I see:
Maria
born at 7:00 a.m.
daughter of:
(Manoel de Sousa, pedreiro=stonemason
X Antonia de Medeiros)
PATERNAL
Manoel da Sousa Matheus X Antonia Juliana
MATERNAL
Francisco de Medeiros X Rosa Jacintha
GODPARENTS
Manoel da Silva  &  Albina de Jesus

Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cory G. 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 8:22 AM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record


  Hi im looking for help with this record, its not the cleanest thing to read.

  Its for Maria Medeiros De Sousa, Possible birthdate is 15 Oct 1876

  Parents Manuel de Sousa Matheus Bispo and Antonia do Conceicao de Jesus 
(Religious name?)


  Figure maybe someones eyes and Portuguese might be better than mine :)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record

[Cheri Mello]

Cory G,

Ignore me and the dates. I pointed out the baptism date for some silly
reason. Bill sent in the correction. Thanks, Bill.

Yes, you have the grandparents correct. Yes, next comes the godparents.
Cheri
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On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 11:49 AM Cory G.  wrote:

> Thanks for the help
>
> Manoel de Souza Matheus
> Antonia Julia
>
> Francisco de Medeiros
> Rosa Jacintha
>
> Now the people below them are godparents right?
>
> On Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 1:28:18 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Hi Cory G,
>>
>> 22 Oct 1876. You were close. 15 is quinze and 22 is vinte e dois (it's
>> written as vinte edois).
>> [image: image.png]
>> I underlined vinte, tried to write "e" with my mouse, and underlined dois.
>>
>> You missed the grandparents. Grandparents are typically found in records
>> from 1860 onwards. The words "neta paterna" for granddaughter paternal and
>> "neta materna" for granddaughter maternal are the key words. Or just look
>> for names and back track before the names for the neta/neto stuff.
>>
>> I've underlined the "neta pa- (hyphened) tera and the "materna" for you.
>> It's about 12 lines from the end. You are doing pretty well, so I'll let
>> you take a try at the names first.
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 10:19 AM Cory G.  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks cheri heres the link
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1870-1879/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1870-1879_item1/P539.html
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 11:45:50 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Cory G,

 The child's parents are Manuel de Souza and Antonia de Medeiros.  I
 can't read the date because it starts on the previous page. It's much
 easier to post the link/URL from the CCA so we can compare the writing to
 the other pages if the need arises.
 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
 Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


 On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 8:41 AM Cory G.  wrote:

> Hi im looking for help with this record, its not the cleanest thing to
> read.
>
> Its for Maria Medeiros De Sousa, Possible birthdate is 15 Oct 1876
>
> Parents Manuel de Sousa Matheus Bispo and Antonia do Conceicao de
> Jesus (Religious name?)
>
> Figure maybe someones eyes and Portuguese might be better than mine :)
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record

[Cheri Mello]

Duh, yeah, 3rd time period. I knew that. Trying to give up caffeine, so I
wasn't thinking (or that's my story and I'm sticking to it!)
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On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 10:37 AM  wrote:

> 22 October 1876 is the baptism date.  Birthday is 15 of the same month.
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record

[Cory G.]

Thanks for the help

Manoel de Souza Matheus
Antonia Julia

Francisco de Medeiros
Rosa Jacintha

Now the people below them are godparents right?

On Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 1:28:18 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Hi Cory G,
>
> 22 Oct 1876. You were close. 15 is quinze and 22 is vinte e dois (it's 
> written as vinte edois).
> [image: image.png]
> I underlined vinte, tried to write "e" with my mouse, and underlined dois.
>
> You missed the grandparents. Grandparents are typically found in records 
> from 1860 onwards. The words "neta paterna" for granddaughter paternal and 
> "neta materna" for granddaughter maternal are the key words. Or just look 
> for names and back track before the names for the neta/neto stuff. 
>
> I've underlined the "neta pa- (hyphened) tera and the "materna" for you. 
> It's about 12 lines from the end. You are doing pretty well, so I'll let 
> you take a try at the names first.
>
> [image: image.png]
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 10:19 AM Cory G. > 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks cheri heres the link
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1870-1879/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1870-1879_item1/P539.html
>>
>> On Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 11:45:50 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> Cory G,
>>>
>>> The child's parents are Manuel de Souza and Antonia de Medeiros.  I 
>>> can't read the date because it starts on the previous page. It's much 
>>> easier to post the link/URL from the CCA so we can compare the writing to 
>>> the other pages if the need arises.
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira 
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 8:41 AM Cory G.  wrote:
>>>
 Hi im looking for help with this record, its not the cleanest thing to 
 read.

 Its for Maria Medeiros De Sousa, Possible birthdate is 15 Oct 1876

 Parents Manuel de Sousa Matheus Bispo and Antonia do Conceicao de 
 Jesus (Religious name?)

 Figure maybe someones eyes and Portuguese might be better than mine :)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record

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22 October 1876 is the baptism date.  Birthday is 15 of the same month.

>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record

[Cory G.]

Thanks cheri heres the link

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1870-1879/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1870-1879_item1/P539.html

On Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 11:45:50 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Cory G,
>
> The child's parents are Manuel de Souza and Antonia de Medeiros.  I can't 
> read the date because it starts on the previous page. It's much easier to 
> post the link/URL from the CCA so we can compare the writing to the other 
> pages if the need arises.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 8:41 AM Cory G. > 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi im looking for help with this record, its not the cleanest thing to 
>> read.
>>
>> Its for Maria Medeiros De Sousa, Possible birthdate is 15 Oct 1876
>>
>> Parents Manuel de Sousa Matheus Bispo and Antonia do Conceicao de Jesus 
>> (Religious name?)
>>
>> Figure maybe someones eyes and Portuguese might be better than mine :)
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record

[Cheri Mello]

Cory G,

The child's parents are Manuel de Souza and Antonia de Medeiros.  I can't
read the date because it starts on the previous page. It's much easier to
post the link/URL from the CCA so we can compare the writing to the other
pages if the need arises.
Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 8:41 AM Cory G.  wrote:

> Hi im looking for help with this record, its not the cleanest thing to
> read.
>
> Its for Maria Medeiros De Sousa, Possible birthdate is 15 Oct 1876
>
> Parents Manuel de Sousa Matheus Bispo and Antonia do Conceicao de Jesus
> (Religious name?)
>
> Figure maybe someones eyes and Portuguese might be better than mine :)
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record help with translation please

[Cheri Mello]

That one is pretty clear. What do you need help reading? You didn't say.

You can find a word list, paleography, and what to expect in a record on
the Azores Genweb here.
Records and key words: https://goo.gl/FkmrU6
Word list: https://goo.gl/z6EWRn
Paleography: https://goo.gl/gEU6RH

Give it a try and see what you can figure out!

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On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 10:46 PM, Deb Garcia 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Could someone help me with this record as well, please?
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> RG-RIBEIRASECA-B-1837-1841/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-B-1837-1841_item1/P235.html
>
> The one on the left-Joao son of Manuel?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Debera
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record, Nossa Senhora do Amparo, Algarvia, Sao Miguel

[Patricia Straube]

Thanks Cheri,
I did as you suggested and looked for siblings. As it turns out, it appears 
that Manuel b. 1852 was the youngest child in the family. He had an older 
brother, Manuel b. 1842, plus two sisters named Rosa and brothers Antonio 
and Francisco. Now I'll have to look in Obitos for the first time. The 
oldest child was Maria b. 1838. Their mother's full name was Maria Rosa de 
Medeiros. Fortunately the maternal grandparents were listed in all the 
other baptisms: Antonio Francisco da Costa and Rosa Maria de Medeiros. It 
appears that this is the case where the mother's surname was chosen. Now I 
need to translate all these other baptisms. Wish me luck!

On Thursday, September 25, 2014 8:33:59 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Patricia S,

 Good job translating!  Now for your questions.

 1. Are the names of the maternal grandparents missing? I can't find them. 
 Why would this be?

 Yes, the names of the maternal grandparents are missing.  Maybe the priest 
 had too much vinho.  :)

 2. Were the godparents literal children or were they merely unmarried and 
 their parents names used to identify them? 

 They could be children or they could be unmarried.  You'd have to research 
 that family to figure it out.

 I'd collect all the siblings of Manuel.  You'll see if the mom's name 
 flips back and forth (Maria Rosa, Maria de Medeiros, Maria Rosa de 
 Medeiros).  And one of the siblings will have the maternal grands.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record, Nossa Senhora do Amparo, Algarvia, Sao Miguel

[Cheri Mello]

Patricia S,

Good luck!  By searching all the siblings, you got the mother's full name,
increased your reading ability, and found out that priests sometimes have
too much vinho at a baptism!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record Question - Sao Matheus, Graciosa

[Cheri Mello]

David said:
Does anyone know how common it is to list a child's name more than just
the first name??

They don't.  Baptism is by first name only.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record Question - Sao Matheus, Graciosa

[Margaret Vicente]

Hi David,

From what I read it does not show the full name with Coelho,  the child was
dedicated to the Holy Spirit, 3rd person of the Trinity, who was the
child's Godfather.

The record reads Manuel do Divino Emperador (of the Divine Emperor,
another name given to the Holy Spirit).

The document reads Godparents:, forao padrinhos o Divino Emperador e o
Reverendo Mestre da Capela Francisco Jose de Bintancourt em nome de etc.
God Parents were the Holy Spirit and the Reverend Master of the Chapel
Francisco in name of ...(names another Priest living in the Terceira island)

best,


On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 1:09 AM, David Buckley oldschoo...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have a question from a baptismal record of my 6x g. grandfather Manuel
 do Divino Emperador Coelho. He was born 10 Aug 1770 in Sao Matheus,
 Graciosa. His parents were Francisco Jose Coelho and Ana Rosa do Livramento.

 The interesting thing about the record is that Manuel's full name is
 listed in the baptismal record instead of just his first name. How common
 was it to list more than just a first name?

 I also have a question on who the Padrinhos are? Any info would be
 helpful.

 Does Divino Emperador signify anything in particular? Maybe it has to do
 with Festa or something along those lines.

 Thanks,

   David

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record Question - Sao Matheus, Graciosa

[Kawika322]

Hi Margaret, 

Thanks, for the translation. It seems interesting that the godfather was 
the holy spirit. I don't think I have seen that before.

Also, his full name does list Coelho as his last name from his marriage 
record, but not his baptismal record. 

Does anyone know how common it is to list a child's name more than just the 
first name??

David

On Saturday, May 10, 2014 5:36:42 AM UTC-7, Mara wrote:

 Hi David,

 From what I read it does not show the full name with Coelho,  the child 
 was dedicated to the Holy Spirit, 3rd person of the Trinity, who was the 
 child's Godfather.  

 The record reads Manuel do Divino Emperador (of the Divine Emperor, 
 another name given to the Holy Spirit).  

 The document reads Godparents:, forao padrinhos o Divino Emperador e o 
 Reverendo Mestre da Capela Francisco Jose de Bintancourt em nome de etc. 
 God Parents were the Holy Spirit and the Reverend Master of the Chapel 
 Francisco in name of ...(names another Priest living in the Terceira island)

 best,


 On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 1:09 AM, David Buckley 
 oldsc...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 I have a question from a baptismal record of my 6x g. grandfather Manuel 
 do Divino Emperador Coelho. He was born 10 Aug 1770 in Sao Matheus, 
 Graciosa. His parents were Francisco Jose Coelho and Ana Rosa do Livramento.

 The interesting thing about the record is that Manuel's full name is 
 listed in the baptismal record instead of just his first name. How common 
 was it to list more than just a first name? 

 I also have a question on who the Padrinhos are? Any info would be 
 helpful. 

 Does Divino Emperador signify anything in particular? Maybe it has to do 
 with Festa or something along those lines. 

 Thanks, 

   David

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record Question - Sao Matheus, Graciosa

[Margaret Vicente]

You're welcome, David.


On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Kawika322 oldschoo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Margaret,

 Thanks, for the translation. It seems interesting that the godfather was
 the holy spirit. I don't think I have seen that before.

 Also, his full name does list Coelho as his last name from his marriage
 record, but not his baptismal record.

 Does anyone know how common it is to list a child's name more than just
 the first name??

 David


 On Saturday, May 10, 2014 5:36:42 AM UTC-7, Mara wrote:

 Hi David,

 From what I read it does not show the full name with Coelho,  the child
 was dedicated to the Holy Spirit, 3rd person of the Trinity, who was the
 child's Godfather.

 The record reads Manuel do Divino Emperador (of the Divine Emperor,
 another name given to the Holy Spirit).

 The document reads Godparents:, forao padrinhos o Divino Emperador e o
 Reverendo Mestre da Capela Francisco Jose de Bintancourt em nome de etc.
 God Parents were the Holy Spirit and the Reverend Master of the Chapel
 Francisco in name of ...(names another Priest living in the Terceira island)

 best,


 On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 1:09 AM, David Buckley oldsc...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have a question from a baptismal record of my 6x g. grandfather Manuel
 do Divino Emperador Coelho. He was born 10 Aug 1770 in Sao Matheus,
 Graciosa. His parents were Francisco Jose Coelho and Ana Rosa do Livramento.

 The interesting thing about the record is that Manuel's full name is
 listed in the baptismal record instead of just his first name. How common
 was it to list more than just a first name?

 I also have a question on who the Padrinhos are? Any info would be
 helpful.

 Does Divino Emperador signify anything in particular? Maybe it has to do
 with Festa or something along those lines.

 Thanks,

   David

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record Translation

[Shirley Allegre]

Hi Diane:  This is what it looks like to me:
Antonia, daughter of Domingos Pereira with his wife Agada Maria, natives of 
Santa Barbara, the island of Pico.  Church of Espirito Santo.
Born 22 November 1762.  Baptised 28th of same month  year.
Godparents:  Antonio Pinheiro do _, son of Antonio Pinheiro;  and Thereza 
Maria daughter of Manoel Silveira Duarte.

Hope this helps.
Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Diane George 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:55 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record Translation


  Hi,

   

  I need help with the translation of this record. I can read parts of it, but 
the abbreviations are unfamiliar and it is very difficult to read. 

   

  I believe it is the record for Antonia Felicia, daughter of Domingos Pereira 
Cardoso and Agada Da Conceicao (as shown in the NEPS database) with a birthdate 
of November 22, 1762, but I can't read much of the record. She is my fifth 
great-grandmother.

   

  The image is from the Family History Library, Film No. 1330080. I am hoping 
that by getting a translation of this record, I may be able to decipher two 
more from the same film at about the same time.

   

  Thanks for any help. I am always impressed by how members of the group can 
read some of the records presented.

   

  Diane George

  Researching Silva and Martin from Faial and Pico, Gonsalves and Silveira from 
Faial.

   

   


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record Translation

[Ângela Loura]

The mothers second name doesn't look like Maria, it looks like there are
2 ii in the name.

2012/5/23 Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net

 **
 Hi Diane:  This is what it looks like to me:
 Antonia, daughter of Domingos Pereira with his wife Agada Maria, natives
 of Santa Barbara, the island of Pico.  Church of Espirito Santo.
 Born 22 November 1762.  Baptised 28th of same month  year.
 Godparents:  Antonio Pinheiro do _, son of Antonio Pinheiro;  and
 Thereza Maria daughter of Manoel Silveira Duarte.

 Hope this helps.
 Shirley in CA

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Diane George digeorg...@hotmail.com
 *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:55 PM
 *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record Translation

  Hi,

 ** **

 I need help with the translation of this record. I can read parts of it,
 but the abbreviations are unfamiliar and it is very difficult to read. ***
 *

 ** **

 I believe it is the record for Antonia Felicia, daughter of Domingos
 Pereira Cardoso and Agada Da Conceicao (as shown in the NEPS database) with
 a birthdate of November 22, 1762, but I can’t read much of the record. She
 is my fifth great-grandmother.

 ** **

 The image is from the Family History Library, Film No. 1330080. I am
 hoping that by getting a translation of this record, I may be able to
 decipher two more from the same film at about the same time.

 ** **

 Thanks for any help. I am always impressed by how members of the group can
 read some of the records presented.

 ** **

 Diane George

 Researching Silva and Martin from Faial and Pico, Gonsalves and Silveira
 from Faial.

 ** **

 ** **

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record Translation

[BaltarFamily]

That's true, if it's a dot there the name maybe Llivia, I guess.

On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:47:20 AM UTC-4, Ângela Loura wrote:

 The mothers second name doesn't look like Maria, it looks like there are 
 2 ii in the name.

 2012/5/23 Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net

 ** 
 Hi Diane:  This is what it looks like to me:
 Antonia, daughter of Domingos Pereira with his wife Agada Maria, natives 
 of Santa Barbara, the island of Pico.  Church of Espirito Santo.
 Born 22 November 1762.  Baptised 28th of same month  year.
 Godparents:  Antonio Pinheiro do _, son of Antonio Pinheiro;  and 
 Thereza Maria daughter of Manoel Silveira Duarte.
  
 Hope this helps.
 Shirley in CA

 - Original Message - 
 *From:* Diane George digeorg...@hotmail.com 
 *To:* azores@googlegroups.com 
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:55 PM
 *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record Translation

  Hi,

 ** **

 I need help with the translation of this record. I can read parts of it, 
 but the abbreviations are unfamiliar and it is very difficult to read. **
 **

 ** **

 I believe it is the record for Antonia Felicia, daughter of Domingos 
 Pereira Cardoso and Agada Da Conceicao (as shown in the NEPS database) with 
 a birthdate of November 22, 1762, but I can’t read much of the record. She 
 is my fifth great-grandmother.

 ** **

 The image is from the Family History Library, Film No. 1330080. I am 
 hoping that by getting a translation of this record, I may be able to 
 decipher two more from the same film at about the same time.

 ** **

 Thanks for any help. I am always impressed by how members of the group 
 can read some of the records presented.

 ** **

 Diane George

 Researching Silva and Martin from Faial and Pico, Gonsalves and Silveira 
 from Faial.

 ** **

 ** **

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record Translation

[Diane George]

Thanks to all of you who translated. The info will help with some other
records I have located and gives me a lot more information that I had
before. 

 

I am really stumped by the abbreviations, particularly those used on names.
Is it common for Silveira to be abbreviated as Silva? Is there a list of
common abbreviations anywhere?

 

Also, on NEPS, I have several relatives listed as “Ana,” but when I look at
the record, it looks like “Anna.”  Which is likely to be the correct
spelling?

 

Diane

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Ângela Loura
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 8:47 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record Translation

 

The mothers second name doesn't look like Maria, it looks like there are 2
ii in the name.

2012/5/23 Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net

Hi Diane:  This is what it looks like to me:

Antonia, daughter of Domingos Pereira with his wife Agada Maria, natives of
Santa Barbara, the island of Pico.  Church of Espirito Santo.

Born 22 November 1762.  Baptised 28th of same month  year.

Godparents:  Antonio Pinheiro do _, son of Antonio Pinheiro;  and
Thereza Maria daughter of Manoel Silveira Duarte.

 

Hope this helps.

Shirley in CA

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From: Diane George mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com  

To: azores@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:55 PM

Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record Translation

 

Hi,

 

I need help with the translation of this record. I can read parts of it, but
the abbreviations are unfamiliar and it is very difficult to read. 

 

I believe it is the record for Antonia Felicia, daughter of Domingos Pereira
Cardoso and Agada Da Conceicao (as shown in the NEPS database) with a
birthdate of November 22, 1762, but I can’t read much of the record. She is
my fifth great-grandmother.

 

The image is from the Family History Library, Film No. 1330080. I am hoping
that by getting a translation of this record, I may be able to decipher two
more from the same film at about the same time.

 

Thanks for any help. I am always impressed by how members of the group can
read some of the records presented.

 

Diane George

Researching Silva and Martin from Faial and Pico, Gonsalves and Silveira
from Faial.

 

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record Translation

[Cheri Mello]

Diane G,

Abbreviations can be found on the Azores Genweb (from the LDS Paleography
booklet): http://goo.gl/Uzh5e

Spelling (same source) are here: http://goo.gl/GSZ0V

Main site so you can get to the others: http://goo.gl/dduJw

Anna vs. Ana is the old vs. the modern Portuguese spelling.

Cheri Mello
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record Translation

[rcapodc]

Silveira is  usuallly abbreviated as Silv.ra(ra in the air) I know that it
looks very much like Silva but it's not.  Rosemarie 

 Thanks to all of you who translated. The info will help with some other
 records I have located and gives me a lot more information that I had
 before.



 I am really stumped by the abbreviations, particularly those used on
 names.
 Is it common for Silveira to be abbreviated as Silva? Is there a list of
 common abbreviations anywhere?



 Also, on NEPS, I have several relatives listed as “Ana,” but when I look
 at
 the record, it looks like “Anna.”  Which is likely to be the correct
 spelling?



 Diane



 From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of
 Ângela Loura
 Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 8:47 AM
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record Translation



 The mothers second name doesn't look like Maria, it looks like there are
 2
 ii in the name.

 2012/5/23 Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net

 Hi Diane:  This is what it looks like to me:

 Antonia, daughter of Domingos Pereira with his wife Agada Maria, natives
 of
 Santa Barbara, the island of Pico.  Church of Espirito Santo.

 Born 22 November 1762.  Baptised 28th of same month  year.

 Godparents:  Antonio Pinheiro do _, son of Antonio Pinheiro;  and
 Thereza Maria daughter of Manoel Silveira Duarte.



 Hope this helps.

 Shirley in CA

 - Original Message -

 From: Diane George mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com

 To: azores@googlegroups.com

 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:55 PM

 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record Translation



 Hi,



 I need help with the translation of this record. I can read parts of it,
 but
 the abbreviations are unfamiliar and it is very difficult to read.



 I believe it is the record for Antonia Felicia, daughter of Domingos
 Pereira
 Cardoso and Agada Da Conceicao (as shown in the NEPS database) with a
 birthdate of November 22, 1762, but I can’t read much of the record. She
 is
 my fifth great-grandmother.



 The image is from the Family History Library, Film No. 1330080. I am
 hoping
 that by getting a translation of this record, I may be able to decipher
 two
 more from the same film at about the same time.



 Thanks for any help. I am always impressed by how members of the group can
 read some of the records presented.



 Diane George

 Researching Silva and Martin from Faial and Pico, Gonsalves and Silveira
 from Faial.





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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record Translation

[Diane George]

Thanks for the links-they are very helpful and resolve a lot of questions I
have.

 

Diane

 

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Cheri Mello
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:40 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record Translation

 

Diane G,

Abbreviations can be found on the Azores Genweb (from the LDS Paleography
booklet): http://goo.gl/Uzh5e

Spelling (same source) are here: http://goo.gl/GSZ0V

Main site so you can get to the others: http://goo.gl/dduJw

Anna vs. Ana is the old vs. the modern Portuguese spelling.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record Interpretation of Ursula Joaquina -Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Lajes de Flores, Flores

[eric edgar]

David,

In the book *Familias da ilha das Flores, 1 Parte* by *Francisco ANP
Gomes*is the following listing from the parish records of
*Nossa Senhora do Rosario*, in *Lajes*
**


*Antonio Pimentel Bajouja* born 16 Mar 1764 to *Francisco Pimentel Bajouja*and
*Maria Pimentel*,  died 15 May 1826 at 66 years old

  he married on 18 Dec 1786 in *N. S. do Rosario* to *Barbara Pimentel* ,
daughter of *Antonio Pimentel Serpa* and *Ursula Pimentel,* residents of *
Lajes*

*  Barbara* was born abt. 1759, and died 31 Jul 1799 at 40 years old


Eric Edgar




On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:36 PM, David Buckley oldschoo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am trying to glean some more information off of this baptismal record of
 one of my ancestors. Her name is Ursula Joaquina, born 4 Mar 1798 in Lajes
 de Flores, Flores. Her mother's name is Izabel and the father is unknown. It
 appears the maternal grandparents are Francisco Pel (probably Pimentel) and
 Maria Pimentel. I have not been able to find the marriage record for
 Francisco and Maria  and hope that this record might give more clues. I am
 also interested in the name of the Padrinhos because I have seen one of the
 surnames (Baiojo or Barojo) before but can't make it out. It isays Forao
 Padrinhos Antonio Pimentel *Barojo*...I am not sure on this name if I wrote
 it correctly as I am unfamiliar with it. Maybe someone can help with it.

 Thanks,

  David

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record Interpretation of Ursula Joaquina -Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Lajes de Flores, Flores

[Marek Delacroix]

Boy that is a tough one to read!  But, what caught my eye, is Barojo...my 
family 
came from Flores and here in the states their surname became Brio...I have been 
trying to figure them out for years now...anyway, I was wondering if maybe Brio 
was once Barojo???  My ancestors are Jose Francisco Brio and Amelia Candida 
Enos.  They eventually ended up in Hawkinsville, Siskiyou County, Calif as gold 
miners.





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To: azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 9, 2010 2:36:05 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record Interpretation of Ursula Joaquina 
-Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Lajes de Flores, Flores

I am trying to glean some more information off of this baptismal record of one 
of my ancestors. Her name is Ursula Joaquina, born 4 Mar 1798 in Lajes de 
Flores, Flores. Her mother's name is Izabel and the father is unknown. It 
appears the maternal grandparents are Francisco Pel (probably Pimentel) and 
Maria Pimentel. I have not been able to find the marriage record for Francisco 
and Maria  and hope that this record might give more clues. I am also 
interested 
in the name of the Padrinhos because I have seen one of the surnames (Baiojo or 
Barojo) before but can't make it out. It isays Forao Padrinhos Antonio Pimentel 
*Barojo*...I am not sure on this name if I wrote it correctly as I am 
unfamiliar 
with it. Maybe someone can help with it. 


Thanks, 

 David
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record Interpretation of Ursula Joaquina -Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Lajes de Flores, Flores

[Karlushko]

Please send me the link, its to small to read it
I will try from there.
 
Best regards

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Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record Interpretation of Ursula Joaquina 
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Data: Sexta-feira, 9 de Julho de 2010, 17:36


I am trying to glean some more information off of this baptismal record of one 
of my ancestors. Her name is Ursula Joaquina, born 4 Mar 1798 in Lajes de 
Flores, Flores. Her mother's name is Izabel and the father is unknown. It 
appears the maternal grandparents are Francisco Pel (probably Pimentel) and 
Maria Pimentel. I have not been able to find the marriage record for Francisco 
and Maria  and hope that this record might give more clues. I am also 
interested in the name of the Padrinhos because I have seen one of the surnames 
(Baiojo or Barojo) before but can't make it out. It isays Forao Padrinhos 
Antonio Pimentel *Barojo*...I am not sure on this name if I wrote it correctly 
as I am unfamiliar with it. Maybe someone can help with it. 

Thanks, 

 David

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