Re: [backstage] platform-agnostic approach to the iPlayer

2007-02-11 Thread Dave Crossland
On 11/02/07, Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Desert Island Discs ... Why no podcast? Estate of Roy Plumley owns the rights to the format, and isn't keen on on demand... Wow. How curious. Rights to the format means what, exactely? I can imagine Desert Island Discs might be a

Re: [backstage] DRM and hwardware attitudes

2007-02-11 Thread Dave Crossland
On 10/02/07, Tim Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your machine will do what you tell it to. It's just that there are secrets you can't access. So if you tell it to access those secrets, and it won't, how is it doing what you tell it to, again? -- Regards, Dave - Sent via the

Re: [backstage] platform-agnostic approach to the iPlayer

2007-02-11 Thread Dave Crossland
On 11/02/07, George Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rights to the format means what, exactely? some (random ish) links Maybe this is a bit of a Rorschach effect, but these all seem to prop up my view that 'format rights' is hand waving.

Re: [backstage] platform-agnostic approach to the iPlayer

2007-02-11 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Tom! On 12/02/07, Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the honest answer is we don't know Thanks for explaining this clearly! What about new works though? Such as those currently podcast? :-) -- Regards, Dave - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please

Re: [backstage] platform-agnostic approach to the iPlayer

2007-02-08 Thread Dave Crossland
On 06/02/07, Richard P Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We also know that the BBC has content that they own 100% of the copyright. This is, apparently, not the case at all for the majority of existing records. However, moving forward, I see no reason why the BBC cannot be clear that it is

Re: [backstage] RE: [backstage] RE: [backstage] RE: [backstage] £1.2 billion question (or RE: [backstage] BBC Bias??? Click and Torrents)

2007-02-08 Thread Dave Crossland
On 06/02/07, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/02/07, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And yet it's still used... Doesn't that say something? It says that record execs are stupid, but we all knew that already. I was going more for a it might be broken by some, but

Re: [backstage] platform-agnostic approach to the iPlayer

2007-02-08 Thread Dave Crossland
On 31/01/07, Colin Moorcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It establishes a desirable goal - platform agnosticism - without constraining how that is achieved. It is also complete obliviousness to reality. In fact, Steve Job's first blog post at http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughtsonmusic/ is

Re: [backstage] RE: [backstage] RE: [backstage] RE: [backstage] RE: [backstage] £1.2 billion question (or RE: [backstage] BBC Bias??? Click and Torrents)

2007-02-08 Thread Dave Crossland
On 08/02/07, Tim Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/02/07, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/02/07, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And yet it's still used... Doesn't that say something? It says that record execs are stupid, but we all knew that

Re: [backstage] RE: [backstage] RE: [backstage] RE: [backstage] RE: [backstage] £1.2 billion question (or RE: [backstage] BBC Bias??? Click and Torrents)

2007-02-08 Thread Dave Crossland
On 08/02/07, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was going more for a it might be broken by some, but it's good enough for 'purpose'. And what is that purpose, exactely? The purpose of being good enough to satisfy the people that own the rights to the content Satisfy the rights

Re: [backstage] RE: [backstage] RE: [backstage] RE: [backstage] £1.2 billion question (or RE: [backstage] BBC Bias??? Click and Torrents)

2007-02-06 Thread Dave Crossland
On 06/02/07, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will be interesting in a few years time once a few MP3 players have died, and people have had chance to lose their entire music collection in spectacular fashion due to hard disk failures and so on. This will only be a problem for people

Re: [backstage] platform-agnostic approach to the iPlayer

2007-02-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 04/02/07, Matthew Cashmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this not a step in the right direction? http://creativearchive.bbc.co.uk/ The CA strongly suggested that the BBC might provide leadership in the Free Culture community. However, I recently saw IFTV's http://blip.tv/file/138568 (IFTV

Re: [backstage] RE: [backstage] RE: [backstage] £1.2 billion question (or RE: [backstage] BBC Bias??? Click and Torrents)

2007-02-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 05/02/07, David Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.bleep.com do FLAC FLAC is Free Lossless Audio Compression, a great free software audio format. To be clear, I am not against people charging money for distributing music; I am against people distributing music in proprietary

Re: [backstage] £1.2 billion question (or RE: [backstage] BBC Bias??? Click and Torrents)

2007-02-02 Thread Dave Crossland
On 02/02/07, J.P.Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What might be a fair price in, say, Russia, might be ridiculously cheap here and unbearaby expensive in Vietnam. Current example: www.allofmp3.com is a licensed mp3 downloads business - licensed in Russia - that is ridiculously cheap compared to

Re: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-02 Thread Dave Crossland
On 02/02/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Surely the whole point of DVD regions is that it was a non-legal way of implementing the ability to restrict international free trade. That's right, and this is summarised in the memorable phrase, code is law :-) And it's the same with

Re: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-02 Thread Dave Crossland
On 01/02/07, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: offer very little on demand, or use DRM - Tom L, the other week. Would you prefer DRMed content on Linux, or just the current video offerings? I'd like all of it in a 'free' format right now please isn't possible, at least not right now.

Re: [backstage] platform-agnostic approach to the iPlayer

2007-02-02 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Richard! On 02/02/07, Richard P Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it was a mistake on my part that I hit reply and the previous email didn't end up on the list. Apologies. I hope you'll post it on list, and I'll post my reply :-) As I said at the beginning, it will be interesting to

Re: [backstage] platform-agnostic approach to the iPlayer

2007-02-01 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Richard! On 01/02/07, Richard P Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Technically speaking, I wonder whether others have thought about self destructive files? ... I will be very interested if such a management system already exists. Certain they do. Unfortunately, that they work is total

Re: [backstage] RE: [backstage] £1.2 billion question (or RE: [backstage] BBC Bias??? Click and Torrents)

2007-01-31 Thread Dave Crossland
On 31/01/07, James Cridland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/30/07, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Metaphors that compare digital data to physical objects are almost always confusion. Agreed. :-) Stealing is stealing, copying is copying. Stealing is not copying. Not agreed

Re: [backstage] platform-agnostic approach to the iPlayer

2007-01-31 Thread Dave Crossland
On 31/01/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Trust has also asked the executive to adopt a platform-agnostic approach to the iPlayer. ... for example Apple Macs What about GNU+Linux users, who are reputedly a larger userbase than OS X users? :-) -- Regards, Dave - Sent via the

Re: [backstage] RE: [backstage] £1.2 billion question (or RE: [backstage] BBC Bias??? Click and Torrents)

2007-01-30 Thread Dave Crossland
On 29/01/07, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forwarded my reply to an old friend, Miles Metcalfe More interesting comments from Miles: Never in the history of creative product have rights holders contemplated or been allowed to get away with restrictions against the affordances

Re: [backstage] RE: [backstage] £1.2 billion question (or RE: [backstage] BBC Bias??? Click and Torrents)

2007-01-30 Thread Dave Crossland
On 30/01/07, James Cridland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/29/07, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29/01/07, James Cridland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In most cases, the broadcaster has negotiated limited rights The distributor's limited rights have been extended in the opposite

Re: [backstage] RE: [backstage] £1.2 billion question (or RE: [backstage] BBC Bias??? Click and Torrents)

2007-01-29 Thread Dave Crossland
On 29/01/07, James Cridland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In most cases, the broadcaster has negotiated limited The distributor's limited rights have been extended in the opposite direction to where distribution technology has taken us. rights in a limited time-frame and a limited territory to

Re: [backstage] DRM

2007-01-25 Thread Dave Crossland
On 25/01/07, Nic James Ferrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think those of us who aren't content should complain more? I complain sometimes but mostly the reaction from people here is sorry - it is like it is - get over it I don't see any point complaining given that. Given hdkeys.com

Re: [backstage] What would you ask Lawrence Lessig?

2007-01-22 Thread Dave Crossland
On 20/01/07, Jonathan Chetwynd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 20 Jan 2007, at 16:59, Dave Crossland wrote: On 08/01/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if you had one question for Lawrence Lessig, what would you ask him??? [3] If he's so big into all this free stuff, how come he uses

Re: [backstage] What would you ask Lawrence Lessig?

2007-01-20 Thread Dave Crossland
On 08/01/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if you had one question for Lawrence Lessig, what would you ask him??? [3] If he's so big into all this free stuff, how come he uses a Mac? ;-) -- Regards, Dave - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please

Re: [backstage] democracyplayer

2006-12-18 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Nic! I'm glad to see that Ian is recommending Free Software and that you took the time to check it out - Thanks, and cheers Ian :-) On 17/12/06, Nic James Ferrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When is auntie going to be publishing feeds so I can see the headlines from the beeb in

Re: [backstage] FW: BBC doesn't get web video

2006-12-09 Thread Dave Crossland
. For Flash in particular, the GNU Project's Flash Player, Gnash, willbe able to play all Flash videos on its next release in the spring, Ijust heard: -- Forwarded message --From: Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 09-Dec-2006 10:45Subject: Gnash Video Codecs?To: gnash@gnu.org Hi

Re: [backstage] Mozilla interview and Backstage Schwag preview

2006-12-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 04/12/06, Richard Lockwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for some reason Flash brings the zealots out in force. ;-) I'm not sure why you are calling me a 'zealot'. Did I say something unreasonable? -- Regards, Dave - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please

Re: [backstage] Mozilla interview and Backstage Schwag preview

2006-12-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 05/12/06, Neil Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is hope http://osflash.org/ This is very, very interesting. Because Flash blurs the distinctionbetween code and data, I wonder if it is inconsisent to object toproprietary Flash player software, yet accept proprietary Flash'content'

Re: [backstage] Mozilla interview and Backstage Schwag preview

2006-12-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 05/12/06, Martin Belam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know why it seems to be Flash in particular that brings this out in folk. I can tell you that it is no different on the continent either - I spent a very entertaining meeting here in Austria the other week facing exactly the same The

Re: [backstage] Mozilla interview and Backstage Schwag preview

2006-12-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 05/12/06, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It wasn't till I met Aral Balkan and Niqui Merret at BarCampLondon that I started to accept that my views of Flash were very much old fashioned. The professional is the man who stays put - The Medium is the Massage, McLuhan, 1969 ;p Flash

Re: [backstage] Mozilla interview and Backstage Schwag preview

2006-12-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 05/12/06, Luke Dicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I swear to god if I have to zap that damned mosquito one more time to make my PC stop making stupid insect noises... https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/433/ -- Regards, Dave - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To

Re: [backstage] Mozilla interview and Backstage Schwag preview

2006-12-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 05/12/06, Luke Dicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote a long thing in reply to this, but it all boils down to : access to people's software is a privilege not a right. Sorry. But there you go. Please post it - I can't really make sense of this :-) -- Regards, Dave - Sent via the

Re: [backstage] Mozilla interview and Backstage Schwag preview

2006-12-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 05/12/06, Luke Dicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And this would be where the zealotry comes in. Why are you calling me a zealot? -- Regards, Dave - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit

Re: [backstage] Mozilla interview and Backstage Schwag preview

2006-12-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 05/12/06, Laurence Samuels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's time you lot stop all these. If you want to continue these rants, do it privately to yourselves, and not to the list. Your rants contribute no knowledge. Please stop. You can ignore my emails? :-) In general, I think the

Re: [backstage] Mozilla interview and Backstage Schwag preview

2006-12-04 Thread Dave Crossland
On 04/12/06, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://blip.tv/file/get/Cubicgarden-interviewWithTristanNitotPresidentOfMozillaEurope758.MP4 Sorry to be lame, but how did you arrive at that URL? What did I miss? :-) -- Regards, Dave - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To

Re: [backstage] Mozilla interview and Backstage Schwag preview

2006-12-04 Thread Dave Crossland
On 04/12/06, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May I ask why you don't want to use Flash? Certainly - I'm glad you asked, and am happy to explain why :-) Have you heard of Free Software? I expect you have heard of OpenSource software. While the end results are the same, the

Re: [backstage] Mozilla interview and Backstage Schwag preview

2006-12-04 Thread Dave Crossland
On 04/12/06, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, it is not complete to a level that meets my needs (Although it will play almost everything, it can crash my webbrowser even more than the Adobe Flash player can, and I *HATE* it when my browser crashes :-) -- Regards, Dave - Sent

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