Re: [backstage] BBC News Android application does not appear on Android 3.1 market

On 6 Jun 2011, at 16:34, Brian Butterworth wrote: > Yes, that doesn't actually answer the question of "why?" I don't know, but probably because it's a non-trivial job to port the UI to a tablet screen size, and the team has plenty of other things to be getting on with. Also, I find that the BBC

Re: [backstage] BBC News Android application does not appear on Android 3.1 market

On 6 June 2011 15:51, Nick Morrott wrote: > On 6 June 2011 13:08, Brian Butterworth wrote: > > When I go to > > https://market.android.com/details?id=bbc.mobile.news.uk > > > > the app won't install on my 3.1 device. Anyone know why? > > From > http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2011/05/bbc

Re: [backstage] BBC News Android application does not appear on Android 3.1 market

On 6 June 2011 13:08, Brian Butterworth wrote: > When I go to > https://market.android.com/details?id=bbc.mobile.news.uk > > the app won't install on my 3.1 device.  Anyone know why? >From >http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2011/05/bbc_news_app_comes_to_android.html (posted 11:59 UK time, W

Re: [backstage] BBC News Android application does not appear on Android 3.1 market

Most probably not Honeycomb ready yet. Requires Android: 1.6 - 2.3.3 On 06/06/2011 13:08, Brian Butterworth wrote: When I go to https://market.android.com/details?id=bbc.mobile.news.uk the app won't install on my 3.1 device. Anyone know why? Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: @bria

[backstage] BBC News Android application does not appear on Android 3.1 market

When I go to https://market.android.com/details?id=bbc.mobile.news.uk the app won't install on my 3.1 device. Anyone know why? Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: @briantist web: ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover

RE: [backstage] BBC News online stream quality drop?

gt; [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Kieran Kunhya > Sent: 26 March 2010 00:59 > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC News online stream quality drop? > > >And now the H.264/AAC workflow is > >in place... How about bumping the audio up to

RE: [backstage] BBC News online stream quality drop?

>And now the H.264/AAC workflow is >in place... How about bumping the audio up to AAC+? AAC at 128kbps should be transparent provided the encoder is up to scratch. Making it AAC+ would probably keep the audio the same quality or perhaps reduce it slightly in my opinion because the algorithms it

RE: [backstage] BBC News online stream quality drop?

.co.uk] On Behalf Of John O'Donovan Sent: 25 March 2010 18:35 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC News online stream quality drop? The stream has always been 368Kbps with 320K video and 48K audio. We recently upgraded all news & sport encoders to h.264 video and

RE: [backstage] BBC News online stream quality drop?

[mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 24 March 2010 12:12 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC News online stream quality drop? It could be because the News stream gets a lot of views on Budget day? On 24 March 2010 12:05, Christopher

RE: [backstage] BBC News online stream quality drop?

It's been like it for a few days now... _ From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 24 March 2010 12:12 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC News online stream quality drop? It cou

RE: [backstage] BBC News online stream quality drop?

Sent: 24 March 2010 11:18 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC News online stream quality drop? There's another version of the BBC News channel at http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/playlive/bbc_news24/ On 24 March 2010 11:01, Christopher Woods wrote: Noticed in the past

Re: [backstage] BBC News online stream quality drop?

elow. (Difference is currently ~132kbps) > > -- > *From:* owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto: > owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth > *Sent:* 24 March 2010 11:18 > *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > *Subject:* Re:

Re: [backstage] BBC News online stream quality drop?

There's another version of the BBC News channel at http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/playlive/bbc_news24/ On 24 March 2010 11:01, Christopher Woods wrote: > Noticed in the past week there's only a 384kbps stream of BBC News via the > web site - it looks rubbish, jerky video and low quality audio. B

[backstage] BBC News online stream quality drop?

Noticed in the past week there's only a 384kbps stream of BBC News via the web site - it looks rubbish, jerky video and low quality audio. Better quality on TVCatchup. Does anybody know if this downgrade is permanent? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please v

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

Frank Wales wrote: Mo McRoberts wrote: On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 03:11:28PM +, Frank Wales wrote: So, am I supposed to conclude that: 43.2 Floods body is missing policeman is noticeably easier to read than: 22.6 Whisky body backs safe drinking I’d contend that in terms of sheer readab

RE: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

er-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 24 November 2009 12:42 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability Ian, Sorry about that,

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

rom:* owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto: > owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth > *Sent:* 22 November 2009 11:52 > > *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > *Subject:* Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability > > To to avoid, or perhaps to add to,

RE: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

ject: Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability To to avoid, or perhaps to add to, the confusion, I thought I should run the FLETCH score for the link titles that Jakob Nielsen likes so much. Here they are with the article scores. Title score Title Art

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

Didn't realise that would get mangled, try again... Title score Title Article score 110.15 Boy aged 15 dies of stab wounds 47.46 98.06 MSPs to get power to ban airguns 38.81 98.06 Two women die in single car crash 37.71 94.04 More rain but flood risk lowers 50.37 94.04 Jackson glove sells for $350

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

To to avoid, or perhaps to add to, the confusion, I thought I should run the FLETCH score for the link titles that Jakob Nielsen likes so much. Here they are with the article scores. Title score Title Article score 110.15 Boy aged 15 dies of stab wounds 47.46 98.06 MSPs to get power to ban air

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

Mo McRoberts wrote: On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 03:11:28PM +, Frank Wales wrote: So, am I supposed to conclude that: 43.2 Floods body is missing policeman is noticeably easier to read than: 22.6 Whisky body backs safe drinking I’d contend that in terms of sheer readability of the headlin

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 15:51, wrote: > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 03:11:28PM +, Frank Wales wrote: >> So, am I supposed to conclude that: >> >> > 43.2 Floods body is missing policeman >> >> is noticeably easier to read than: >> >> > 22.6 Whisky body backs safe drinking > > Well, use of the word

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 05:11:17PM +, Brian Butterworth wrote: > Sorry, no. The scores are for the text of the article, rather than just the > headline. Ah, fair enough. Ignore me, then :-) -- Flash Bristow -www.gorge.org-07939 579090 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

Sorry, no. The scores are for the text of the article, rather than just the headline. More... 53.71677885 Baby abuse father 'must be named' 49.91409462 Flood alert over threatened rains 48.42217391 Supermarket development under way 47.56608475 Fallen soldiers honoured by town 47.54757576 Two hel

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 03:11:28PM +, Frank Wales wrote: > So, am I supposed to conclude that: > > > 43.2 Floods body is missing policeman > > is noticeably easier to read than: > > > 22.6 Whisky body backs safe drinking Well, use of the word "body" is less ambiguous in the first headline.

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

Brian Butterworth wrote: I've just done a bit of code that grabs the Fletch score for each of the newest stories on the BBC News site. 90.0–100.0 easily understandable by an average 11-year-old student 60.0–70.0 easily understandable by 13- to 15-year-old students 0.0–30.0b

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

I've just done a bit of code that grabs the Fletch score for each of the newest stories on the BBC News site. 90.0–100.0easily understandable by an average 11-year-old student60.0–70.0easily understandable by 13- to 15-year-old students0.0–30.0best understood by university graduates 60.6 Oprah Wi

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

2009/11/20 Paul Webster : > On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:18:31 -, you wrote: > > > >>As an example, I think for this story: >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8369764.stm >> >>"Procter & Gamble recalls 120,000 Vicks nasal sprays" >> >>...is much clearer than... >> >>"Thousands of Vicks spray reca

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:18:31 -, you wrote: >As an example, I think for this story: >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8369764.stm > >"Procter & Gamble recalls 120,000 Vicks nasal sprays" > >...is much clearer than... > >"Thousands of Vicks spray recalled" > >Especially if you don't know

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

I think that's what I was getting at. In less than one whole kilobyte ("seven tweets"), everything you need to know. Is concise a fad that has passed? 2009/11/20 Adam Sampson > Brian Butterworth writes: > > > BBC News headlines go from 33 characters (because of Ceefax) to 66 > > I always wond

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

Brian Butterworth writes: > BBC News headlines go from 33 characters (because of Ceefax) to 66 I always wondered if there was someone working for Ceefax who took great pride in working out how to word all their news headlines to be exactly the same length. A screenshot I took on 29th July 2001 r

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

.@pentangle.co.uk > Pentangle Internet Limited is a limited company registered in England and > Wales. Registered number: 3960918. Registered office: 1 Lauras Close, Great > Staughton, Cambridgeshire PE19 5DP > > > From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk > > [mailto:owner-backst...

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

On 20 Nov 2009, at 12:49, Brian Butterworth wrote: As an example, I think for this story: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8369764.stm "Procter & Gamble recalls 120,000 Vicks nasal sprays" ...is much clearer than... "Thousands of Vicks spray recalled" Especially if you don't know what Vi

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

t; BBC Future Media & Technology (Journalism) >> BC3 C1, Broadcast Centre, 201 Wood Lane, London >> >> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/>http://news.bbc.co.uk/ >> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/>http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/ >> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/>

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

On 20-Nov-2009, at 12:49, Brian Butterworth wrote: > As I pointed out if you calculate the reading score for these longer > headlines, they score higher, meaning they are less good to those (unlike > ourselves) who have lower reading skills. > > For higher skilled people, they just take longer

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

C1, Broadcast Centre, 201 Wood Lane, London http://news.bbc.co.uk/ http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/ http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/ -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Mo McRoberts Sent: 20 November 2009 11:57 To: backstag

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

> From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk > [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Mo McRoberts > Sent: 20 November 2009 11:57 > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability > > > On 20-Nov-2009, at 11:45, Br

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

t Centre, 201 Wood Lane, London > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/ > http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/ > http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/ > > > -Original Message- > From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk > [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Mo McRoberts > Sent: 20 N

RE: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

[mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Mo McRoberts Sent: 20 November 2009 11:57 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability On 20-Nov-2009, at 11:45, Brian Butterworth wrote: > Here's a nice little dillemma. > > ht

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

On 20-Nov-2009, at 11:45, Brian Butterworth wrote: > Here's a nice little dillemma. > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2009/11/changing_headlines.html > > BBC News headlines go from 33 characters (because of Ceefax) to 66 > > One the one hand, king of usability Jacob Neilson has said t

[backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

Here's a nice little dillemma. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2009/11/changing_headlines.html BBC News headlines go from 33 characters (because of Ceefax) to 66 One the one hand, king of usability Jacob Neilson has said the BBC News headlines are the "world's best" http://www.useit.com/a

RE: [backstage] BBC NEWS | Technology | Flash moves on to smart phones

.uk/sport/ http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/ -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Stephen Jolly Sent: 06 October 2009 12:14 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC NEWS | Technology | Flash moves on

RE: [backstage] BBC NEWS | Technology | Flash moves on to smart phones

"big reason for the success of Flash was Adobe's reputation for providing great tools for designers." Adobe hates designers, now Marcomedia that was a company that loved designers Flex == the evil Flash == the great, if under supported these days Flex SDK + Elicipse + Flash == the best :) Zap

Re: [backstage] BBC NEWS | Technology | Flash moves on to smart phones

On 6 Oct 2009, at 11:34, Brian Butterworth wrote: There was always the luck for Macromedia (now Adobe) that when they launched Flash there was no competitor. Even Microsoft used Flash 2 on the old Microsoft Network. When I first heard that Macromedia were going to add a video player to t

Re: [backstage] BBC NEWS | Technology | Flash moves on to smart phones

kst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] *On Behalf Of *Phil Whitehouse > *Sent:* 06 October 2009 09:21 > *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > *Subject:* Re: [backstage] BBC NEWS | Technology | Flash moves on to smart > phones > > In case you're interested, I'm organising a free event where javasc

RE: [backstage] BBC NEWS | Technology | Flash moves on to smart phones

tober 2009 09:21 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC NEWS | Technology | Flash moves on to smart phones In case you're interested, I'm organising a free event where javascript legend Jeremy Ruston is giving a talk on "HTML5 and the slow death of Flash".

Re: [backstage] BBC NEWS | Technology | Flash moves on to smart phones

In case you're interested, I'm organising a free event where javascript legend Jeremy Ruston is giving a talk on "HTML5 and the slow death of Flash". Plenty of time for Q&A afterwards! Details here: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/4516026/ Cheers, Phil On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:42 PM, cisnky wro

Re: [backstage] BBC NEWS | Technology | Flash moves on to smart phones

Hi Cisnky, Could you kindly elaborate? Adobe's recent aquisition makes me wonder if they are really behind Flash for the long term; that and the lack of engineering quality they put into it recently. I suspect HTML5 is going to pancake it, because there is a lot more money behind it than Adobe can

Re: [backstage] BBC NEWS | Technology | Flash moves on to smart phones

Mate, Dream on about HTML 5 killing off Flash. HTML5 is a standards time bomb waiting to go off. 2009/10/5 Zen > Hopefully. HTML5 will kill off flash once and for all. Some hope! > > > > On 5 Oct 2009, at 14:19, Dan Brickley wrote: > > Great news, phone fans! >> >> >> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/

Re: [backstage] BBC NEWS | Technology | Flash moves on to smart phones

Hopefully. HTML5 will kill off flash once and for all. Some hope! On 5 Oct 2009, at 14:19, Dan Brickley wrote: Great news, phone fans! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8287239.stm "One of the most common technologies for watching video on a computer will soon be available for most sma

[backstage] BBC NEWS | Technology | Flash moves on to smart phones

Great news, phone fans! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8287239.stm "One of the most common technologies for watching video on a computer will soon be available for most smartphones. Flash software is used to deliver around 75% of online video and is the key technology that underpins web

[backstage] BBC News has information from the US National Grandmother on digital egg sucking?

Must be the slowest of news days ever, or is this a "look, over there, bunnies!" story? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7824939.stm Improper Input Validation! Failure to Constrain Operations within the Bounds of a Memory Buffer! Incorrect Calculation! Brian Butterworth follow me on twit

Re: [backstage] BBC News and other stuff not streaming online in WMP any more?

2008/10/7 Christopher Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >> My site doesn't get much traffic but I'm always one for being as complete >> as possible in listings... If you have a definitive list of stream URLs >> available at some point in the future, please send 'em over. I still use the >> site fo

RE: [backstage] BBC News and other stuff not streaming online in WMP any more?

My site doesn't get much traffic but I'm always one for being as complete as possible in listings... If you have a definitive list of stream URLs available at some point in the future, please send 'em over. I still use the site for listening to radio on an ad-hoc basis, and the radio stream

Re: [backstage] BBC News and other stuff not streaming online in WMP any more?

> > My site doesn't get much traffic but I'm always one for being as complete > as possible in listings... If you have a definitive list of stream URLs > available at some point in the future, please send 'em over. I still use the > site for listening to radio on an ad-hoc basis, and the radio stre

RE: [backstage] BBC News and other stuff not streaming online in WMP any more?

Quoting Gareth Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: If you do a 'view source' on the pop up player windows in Radio iPlayer you'll see the URLs for Windows Media, Real and Flash streams all embedded in the source code if they are available. The World Service has no plans to drop the narrowband Windows Me

RE: [backstage] BBC News and other stuff not streaming online in WMP any more?

ber 2008 15:30 > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: [backstage] BBC News and other stuff not streaming > online in WMP any more? > > I used to use the WMP feeds of News 24 and the other BBC > stuff a _lot_ on my mobile device - yet a few weeks ago (and > ever since), w

RE: [backstage] BBC News and other stuff not streaming online in WMP any more?

jod From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Christopher Woods Sent: Thu 10/2/2008 15:30 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] BBC News and other stuff not streaming online in WMP any more? I used to use the WMP feeds of News 24 and the other BBC stuff a _lot_ on my m

[backstage] BBC News and other stuff not streaming online in WMP any more?

I used to use the WMP feeds of News 24 and the other BBC stuff a _lot_ on my mobile device - yet a few weeks ago (and ever since), when I tried to load the streams - either on a PC or my mobile device - they now don't work. The News 24 stream just shows a static BBC News image for 10 seconds and th

Re: Old thread, new News... Re: [backstage] BBC News : site feedback.... [Fwd: RE: Feedback [NewsWatch]]

It's quite funny, in the sense of "Caveat venditor": all the people who lost loads of money by selling the stock in the hope that they could sell before the buyer became aware of the business failing have lost loadsamoney. Big Greed=Big Loss. For those who didn't sell, the price will recover, of c

Re: Old thread, new News... Re: [backstage] BBC News : site feedback.... [Fwd: RE: Feedback [NewsWatch]]

I just stumbled across this article that explains what may have actually happened, When Algorithms Attack: How Googlebot And Tribune (And Some Idiot) Killed United Airlines Stock

Re: Old thread, new News... Re: [backstage] BBC News : site feedback.... [Fwd: RE: Feedback [NewsWatch]]

"the hard part is getting the people who write the requirements to understand why they should care" I would like to think they care, it may just be the case of being caught off guard. I have search marketing experience and I know that these vulnerabilities can be exploited if you can ignore eth

Re: Old thread, new News... Re: [backstage] BBC News : site feedback.... [Fwd: RE: Feedback [NewsWatch]]

2008/9/11 Christopher Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> I'm currently trying to ensure that my current client >> builds suitable safeguards into a similar feature they're >> proposing to deliver. > > > Well surely it can't take much; something like SELECT * FROM > 'active_news_articles' where 'publishe

Re: Old thread, new News... Re: [backstage] BBC News : site feedback.... [Fwd: RE: Feedback [NewsWatch]]

I have a slight feeling that there is a conspiracy somewhere here. This may be similar to Googlebombing, I suspect someone made a lot of money as a result. On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Typical of our Yankee cousins, not only do they write their da

Re: Old thread, new News... Re: [backstage] BBC News : site feedback.... [Fwd: RE: Feedback [NewsWatch]]

Typical of our Yankee cousins, not only do they write their dates the wrong way round, but their history is so shallow they can't remember something they've read before. Poor dears. No sense of history, or indeed chronology. Note to americans: If you want to put the year on something, but don't w

RE: Old thread, new News... Re: [backstage] BBC News : site feedback.... [Fwd: RE: Feedback [NewsWatch]]

> I'm currently trying to ensure that my current client > builds suitable safeguards into a similar feature they're > proposing to deliver. Well surely it can't take much; something like SELECT * FROM 'active_news_articles' where 'published_date' => date(today)-90days? (I know that's a horrib

Re: Old thread, new News... Re: [backstage] BBC News : site feedback.... [Fwd: RE: Feedback [NewsWatch]]

2008/9/10 David Greaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Who's feeling rather smug) Me too. I'm currently trying to ensure that my current client builds suitable safeguards into a similar feature they're proposing to deliver. Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.co

Re: Old thread, new News... Re: [backstage] BBC News : site feedback.... [Fwd: RE: Feedback [NewsWatch]]

I use Google News often and this happens all the time. PR Newswire is particularly vulnerable, as they don't add the year to their datelines. Here's one in the top ten search results for two big companies: http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/cgi/news/release?id=126607 No year! Note that the copyright no

Old thread, new News... Re: [backstage] BBC News : site feedback.... [Fwd: RE: Feedback [NewsWatch]]

Remember this old thread... (see below) Now, in the context of "What could *possibly* go wrong" look at this: Google News farce triggers Wall Street sell-off http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/10/online_news_farce_drops_united_stock/ Note the bit at the end: Update The Tribune Company ha

[backstage] BBC News iGoogle gadget

If you like iGoogle gadgets, then there's the rather nice BBC Weather unofficial gadget, which you can add by going to http://bit.ly/bbcweather_ig (and I've summarily broken the old one, since you can't simply forward it on). There's also now a nice new BBC News unofficial iGoogle gadget, which yo

Re: [backstage] BBC News : It's not the Gates, it's the bars

Dan Brickley wrote: > David Greaves wrote: >> Not seen this pop up on the list: >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7487060.stm >> >> Not so much the message which not everyone agrees with - but I am >> impressed to >> see the point-of-view coming from a mainstream source :) > > Richard Sta

Re: [backstage] BBC News : It's not the Gates, it's the bars

David Greaves wrote: Not seen this pop up on the list: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7487060.stm Not so much the message which not everyone agrees with - but I am impressed to see the point-of-view coming from a mainstream source :) Richard Stallman is a mainstream source now? Damn I

[backstage] BBC News : It's not the Gates, it's the bars

Not seen this pop up on the list: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7487060.stm Not so much the message which not everyone agrees with - but I am impressed to see the point-of-view coming from a mainstream source :) David - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe,

Re: [backstage] BBC News font size issue

Kevin Hinde wrote: we have, recently and deliberately, removed a tag from the story body, but Opera shouldn't go into quirks mode - I think that's because we're declaring doctype as [snip case change] although I should probably check with someone who knows what they're talking about first..

RE: [backstage] BBC News font size issue

> > On 11/03/2008, *Matthew Somerville* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > > Does anyone know who would be the right person to > contact about the fact > > that some BBC News pages now (as in, it only started > very recently) > > appear > > quite dif

Re: [backstage] BBC News font size issue

vijay chopra wrote: Are you sure you haven't got the font size turned up in Opera? Yes; and I checked with another Opera user; and I diagnosed the cause. So yes, I'm sure :) ATB, Matthew > I know that I've had to turn it up/down in both IE and firefox before having accidentally put it up f

Re: [backstage] BBC News font size issue

Are you sure you haven't got the font size turned up in Opera? I know that I've had to turn it up/down in both IE and firefox before having accidentally put it up for one reason or another. I can't remember how it's done in Opera (and being at work I can't check) but it's ctrl + or ctrl - in firef

[backstage] BBC News font size issue

Does anyone know who would be the right person to contact about the fact that some BBC News pages now (as in, it only started very recently) appear quite different in Opera 9 to Firefox and IE? It's only the body text font size on pages with a , which makes me think it's probably not deliberate

Re: [backstage] BBC News

f Of *Matt Barber > *Sent:* Friday, January 25, 2008 1:40 PM > *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > *Subject:* [backstage] BBC News > > > > Anyone noticed the BBC News front page has gone to a PDA or similar > version? > > ./Matt > > > **

Re: [backstage] BBC News

On Jan 25, 2008 2:39 PM, Ciaran Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/25/08, Matt Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Same browser, 2.0.0.11 from XP. It's actually redirecting to > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/nolpda/ukfs_news/hi/default.stm which > > is strange. Tried IE as well to see if it wa

Re: [backstage] BBC News

Strange isn't it! Well the weekend begins soon so perhaps I should see what happens Monday ;) On Jan 25, 2008 4:34 PM, Ciaran Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/25/08, Darren Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Check to see what MIME types your browser is sending out in HTTP Accept

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On 1/25/08, Darren Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Check to see what MIME types your browser is sending out in HTTP Accept when > you make a request (Firebug might help). > > It "could" be that you are sending accept application/xml+html which is > letting you get mobile HTML (WML 2.0 XHTML)

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On 1/25/08, Matt Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Could it be that I am VPN'ed to a USA IP address? > > > > I doubt it; I actually originally accessed it from a USA IP address > > first but then tried using my normal UK IP in case that was causing > > the difference. > > > > What IP address

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om: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Barber Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:40 PM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] BBC News Anyone noticed the BBC News front page has gone to a PDA or similar versio

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On 1/25/08, Matt Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Same browser, 2.0.0.11 from XP. It's actually redirecting to > http://news.bbc.co.uk/nolpda/ukfs_news/hi/default.stm which > is strange. Tried IE as well to see if it was a strange cache thing. > > Could it be that I am VPN'ed to a USA IP addres

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On Jan 25, 2008 1:48 PM, Ciaran Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/25/08, Matt Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone noticed the BBC News front page has gone to a PDA or similar > version? > > Looks okay to me. What browser are you using? I'm using Firefox > 2.0.0.11 on Windows XP f

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On 1/25/08, Matt Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone noticed the BBC News front page has gone to a PDA or similar version? Looks okay to me. What browser are you using? I'm using Firefox 2.0.0.11 on Windows XP from this machine. - Ciaran. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion grou

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Anyone noticed the BBC News front page has gone to a PDA or similar version? ./Matt

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On Mon, 7 Jan 2008, Steve Jolly wrote: David Greaves wrote: I think someone missed the point here... Or am I wrong? If I explain that all the stories on the BBC news website are barely more than static HTML, would that explain why adding watermarks to them all would be difficult? If the site

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Peter Bowyer wrote: > On 08/01/2008, Martin Belam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Personally I would rather the most read/most emailed reflected exactly >> what the user was doing, and wasn't "most emailed stories from the >> last 7 days excluding the also in the news section because we are the >> BB

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This is pretty interesting. A site I run exposed a "This week in..." archive on the homepage, linking to articles that happened that week in previous years (you can see it at http://play.tm, click "Archive" in the middle half way down the page). A number of spiders then went nuts (including Google'

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On 08/01/2008, Martin Belam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I used to face this kind of question when doing the analysis of search > logs at the BBC to produce the "popular searches right now" list. > > Obviously I used to filter out obscenities, but, for example, > something like 'big brother' or the

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I used to face this kind of question when doing the analysis of search logs at the BBC to produce the "popular searches right now" list. Obviously I used to filter out obscenities, but, for example, something like 'big brother' or the 'x-factor' would generate a lot of searches on bbc.co.uk, but w

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On Jan 7, 2008 10:02 PM, Steve Jolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Greaves wrote: > > Fair enough - but this is The BBC News > > > > So getting it right (and not misleading) should trump the mere > impossible :) > > > > > > IIRC some time ago (months/years) there was something vaguely > > fr

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David Greaves wrote: Fair enough - but this is The BBC News So getting it right (and not misleading) should trump the mere impossible :) > IIRC some time ago (months/years) there was something vaguely fraudulent/misleading/prankish that was backed by an out-of-context but genuine BBC story wh

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David Greaves wrote: [snip] > > And it still doesn't excuse the front page dynamic links > being 'gamed' to point > to a years old piece. I expect 'most emailed' to be limited > to stories from the > last few days. > Would that be the goat? It was discussed here - http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/

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Steve Jolly wrote: > David Greaves wrote: >> I think someone missed the point here... >> >> Or am I wrong? > > If I explain that all the stories on the BBC news website are barely > more than static HTML, would that explain why adding watermarks to them > all would be difficult? If the site was b

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If the HTML is fairly standardized (I see that the datestamp is both in the metatags and in the body), it's even easier to add or change the presentation of datestamps, just a text operation which I'd take over a fancy CMS any day of the week. Static pages can be great for performance, reliability,

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If I explain that all the stories on the BBC news website are barely more than static HTML, would that explain why adding watermarks to them all would be difficult? If the site was backed by some kind of new-fangled CMS then it would be an extremely sensible suggestion. :-) wanted: volunteer

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Perhaps a better solution would be to increase the size of the header datestamp: Last Updated: Wednesday, 11 February, 2004, 09:20 GMT Or, to add the year to the datestamp at the end of the piece: The Money Programme on self-cert mortgages was broadcast on BBC Two on Wednesday 11 February at 1

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