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Bloc not block ;) > -Original Message- > From: Gordon Joly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 28 May 2007 21:55 > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Cc: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk; Timothy-john Bishop > Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial > > At 17:43 +01

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At 17:43 +0100 28/5/07, Timothy-john Bishop wrote: No... the "R" is already there... It's just silent... I heard they will be running for the contract to deal with the complaints with the eurovision song contesting voting irregularities.. I thought the problem was with block voting

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No... the "R" is already there... It's just silent... I heard they will be running for the contract to deal with the complaints with the eurovision song contesting voting irregularities.. On 28/05/07, Gordon Joly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 20:04 +0100 27/5/07, Kim Plowright wrote: >>I

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At 20:04 +0100 27/5/07, Kim Plowright wrote: I _suspect_ they just fob people off and ignore complaints they dislike. Or maybe I was unlucky and the two people I communicated with didn't do their job properly? Audience comms and complaints are outsourced to Capita. - You missed out a letter

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And the call-tracking app is being developed by iSoft... ... Two wonderful companies > -Original Message- > From: Kim Plowright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 27 May 2007 20:04 > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial > > &g

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I _suspect_ they just fob people off and ignore complaints they dislike. Or maybe I was unlucky and the two people I communicated with didn't do their job properly? Audience comms and complaints are outsourced to Capita. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, plea

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I _suspect_ they just fob people off and ignore complaints they dislike. Or maybe I was unlucky and the two people I communicated with didn't do their job properly? Nope, that's normal; I used that site to complain about the changes to the 606 message boards, I was directed to a URL that I'd a

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On 26/05/07, vijay chopra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Good luck with that; I tried to complain to Ofcom about the recent Panorama on WiFi I think you may want to look at: Doubt it will do much good though. In my experience they feed you false information on t

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On 25/05/07, Colin Moorcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I only got it once. Discrimination? Ofcom will hear of this... - Colin Good luck with that; I tried to complain to Ofcom about the recent Panorama on WiFi (The whole thing was blatently misleading, factually wrong and biased), but appe

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I only got it once. Discrimination? Ofcom will hear of this... - Colin On 25 May 2007, at 21:08, Ciaran Hamilton wrote: I got it twice too, actually - I meant to say that but I forgot. Seems a little weird. I'm guessing it's just a glitch. On 25/05/07, vijay chopra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

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No I got two too. I assume most or all people did. On 25/05/07, vijay chopra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 25/05/07, Andy Leighton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So did I. Well I got it twice to be precise - sent date within 6 > minutes of each other. The same thing happened to me; does mea

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I got it twice too, actually - I meant to say that but I forgot. Seems a little weird. I'm guessing it's just a glitch. On 25/05/07, vijay chopra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 25/05/07, Andy Leighton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So did I. Well I got it twice to be precise - sent date wi

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On 25/05/07, Andy Leighton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So did I. Well I got it twice to be precise - sent date within 6 minutes of each other. The same thing happened to me; does mean I took up two invites...?

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On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 05:44:50PM +0100, Gary Kirk wrote: > I just received an e-mail which seemed to confirm I was part of the > trial - excerpt: > > We'll e-mail you your account details in just a few weeks and then > you'll have access to hundreds of hours of programmes. So did I. Well I got

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irk Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 5:45 PM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial I just received an e-mail which seemed to confirm I was part of the trial - excerpt: [cut]

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Me three ;-)) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary Kirk Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 5:45 PM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial I just received an e-mail which seemed to confirm I was part of the trial

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I just received an e-mail which seemed to confirm I was part of the trial - excerpt: We'll e-mail you your account details in just a few weeks and then you'll have access to hundreds of hours of programmes. :D! On 19/04/07, Matthew Cashmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It¹ll take a few weeks I w

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It¹ll take a few weeks I would imagine before you¹ll hear much ­ the list is getting blasted at the moment as you¹d expect! I¹ll post up more information as I know it. m On 19/4/07 15:53, "Paul Jefferson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you know when we will hear if we are in or not? (Or is th

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> Slightly Off Topic, as you mentioned Ubuntu ISOs, nice to see > that the BBC is not covering this on it's technology news, it > gave an awful lot of press to Vista. The BBC News Technology section is rather more mainstream focused - it's not The Register. And I think that's reflected in the

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Mutt Baskerville wrote: Slightly Off Topic, as you mentioned Ubuntu ISOs, nice to see that the BBC is not covering this on it's technology news, it gave an awful lot of press to Vista. They even gave coverage to some World of Warcraft expansion pack! Then again, I've never agreed with them on

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-Original Message- > From: Andrew Bowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 19 April 2007 10:34 > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC Archive trial > > > I have a DAB radio and I confess I can't tell the difference between > (say) Ra

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On 19 Apr 2007, at 16:07, Mutt Baskerville wrote: Slightly Off Topic, as you mentioned Ubuntu ISOs, nice to see that the BBC is not covering this on it's technology news, it gave an awful lot of press to Vista. They even gave coverage to some World of Warcraft expansion pack! Then aga

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> Slightly Off Topic, as you mentioned Ubuntu ISOs, nice to see that the > BBC is not covering this on it's technology news, it gave an awful lot > of press to Vista. They even gave coverage to some World of Warcraft expansion pack! Then again, I've never agreed with them on their definition of '

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On 19/04/07, Scot McSweeney-Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Even with content from the BBC, I pay the licence fee so why should I pay in bandwidth as well? Because Peer to Peer is the only current scalable way of distributing content. Server to client just isn't scalable enough. Server to c

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Do you know when we will hear if we are in or not? (Or is the fact that I've not heard mean I'm not in?) Paul (Long Time Lurker) On 19/04/07, James Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 19 Apr 2007, at 14:39, Scot McSweeney-Roberts wrote: > James Cox wrote: > >> >> >> I hope that if this gets pa

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On 19 Apr 2007, at 14:39, Scot McSweeney-Roberts wrote: James Cox wrote: I hope that if this gets past the various layers of governance and gets budget to become a 'real' project, some effort into hooking up into bittorrent (I'm sure Bram could come up with some trickery to have certi

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James Cox wrote: I hope that if this gets past the various layers of governance and gets budget to become a 'real' project, some effort into hooking up into bittorrent (I'm sure Bram could come up with some trickery to have certified users (ie, license fee payers ;)) only which would permi

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On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 01:09:24 +0100, James Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Fixed Length Trial? Public Value Test? (one has to love the steps to > get something done. bravo for trying). There's been a fair bit of BBC bashing on this list in the past, so thank you for recognising that we do care

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No way Kim, I'm NOT normal. ;-) On 19 Apr 2007, at 13:28, Kim Plowright wrote: /me guesses, somehow, that the denizens of this list are somewhat demographically homogeneous. I got kicked off after about 60% when I said I was male. hhm. Oh well, perhaps 35-44 age bracket is already

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/me guesses, somehow, that the denizens of this list are somewhat demographically homogeneous. > I got kicked off after about 60% when I said I was male. hhm. > Oh well, perhaps 35-44 age bracket is already full. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please

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Tim Cowlishaw wrote: True but a slight exaggeration - A certain level of video quality still qualifies as an acceptable threshold, IMO. In addition, crystal clear sound and crystal clear vision are both pretty useless if they're not in sync. Indeed. But as long as the glitches are small and

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On 4/19/07, Kirk Northrop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, it's well known (and proved) that you can do what you want with the picture if the sound is OK. True but a slight exaggeration - A certain level of video quality still qualifies as an acceptable threshold, IMO. In addition, cryst

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Andrew Bowden wrote: I'm far better on visual artifacts I must say. Interestingly though a colleague of mine from BBC News told me that surveys have shown people are far more likely to put up with a dodgy video picture if the sound is clean and crisp. Yes, it's well known (and proved) that you

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> Do you think it's a generation gap thing? Or, like that > recent article I read on DigitalSpy about the results of the > DAB quality survey, people who don't vocalise their concern > about lowering quality just don't fully understand what a > good quality stream should look / sound like? Admi

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At 19:30 +0100 18/4/07, Tom Loosemore wrote: On 18/04/07, Gordon Joly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 16:39 +0100 18/4/07, Ian Forrester wrote: Hi All, Outside of the framework debate... The BBC Archive trial is getting closer to opening its doors. Exclusively I can n

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At 20:00 +0100 18/4/07, James Cox wrote: I'm in-- i think? Funny that. You are on this list. Hence, you have a close *association* with the BBC through Backstage. Gordo -- "Think Feynman"/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion

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il 2007 02:10 > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial > > > On 19 Apr 2007, at 01:48, Christopher Woods wrote: > > > I bet your siblings don't watch downloaded media on a big, high- > > quality television set. YouTube and even

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On 19 Apr 2007, at 01:48, Christopher Woods wrote: I bet your siblings don't watch downloaded media on a big, high- quality television set. YouTube and even broadband-bitrate streaming formats just look shockingly bad on a TV screen - the old interlaced sets of yore, whose method of display

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t; From: James Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 19 April 2007 01:13 > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial > > > On 18 Apr 2007, at 23:07, Tom Loosemore wrote: > > > > > > > > Shame. I love the idea of digging into

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On 18 Apr 2007, at 23:07, Tom Loosemore wrote: > Shame. I love the idea of digging into blackadder and jeeves and > wooster and all the other comedy greats -- but getting them in a > format that is at least somewhat representative of their quality. > Sucks that I'd have to stream it certa

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On 18 Apr 2007, at 22:51, Jonathan Tweed wrote: On 18 Apr 2007, at 20:03, James Cox wrote: On 18 Apr 2007, at 19:34, Tom Loosemore wrote: it'll be delivered via the internet... using that funny HTML stuff (streamed in Real/WM I expect, cos that'll make it easier to set up - it is a tria

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> Shame. I love the idea of digging into blackadder and jeeves and > wooster and all the other comedy greats -- but getting them in a > format that is at least somewhat representative of their quality. > Sucks that I'd have to stream it certainly encoding into divx > or mpg would show some un

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On 18 Apr 2007, at 20:03, James Cox wrote: On 18 Apr 2007, at 19:34, Tom Loosemore wrote: it'll be delivered via the internet... using that funny HTML stuff (streamed in Real/WM I expect, cos that'll make it easier to set up - it is a trial after all...). The actual site itself is very n

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Thanks Tom, I appreciate you suggestion, and will do. Vocab looks great. All the best RichE On 18 Apr 2007, at 20:04, Tom Loosemore wrote: The Trust have to base all their decisions on the needs of UK licence fee payers, first and foremost. But yes, a global internet, that challenges lots o

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Vocab is used for English -> Somali on our South East Wales site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/southeast/sites/help/pages/somali.shtml (Cardiff has a large Somali population) Chris On 18 Apr 2007, at 20:04, Tom Loosemore wrote: The Trust have to base all their decisions on the needs of UK lice

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backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk; Ian Forrester Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial At 16:39 +0100 18/4/07, Ian Forrester wrote: >Hi All, > >Outside of the framework debate... > >The BBC Archive trial is getting closer to opening its doors. >Exclusively I can now tell you that the registe

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On 18 Apr 2007, at 19:34, Tom Loosemore wrote: it'll be delivered via the internet... using that funny HTML stuff (streamed in Real/WM I expect, cos that'll make it easier to set up - it is a trial after all...). The actual site itself is very nice, IMHO (not that I had anything to do wi

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The Trust have to base all their decisions on the needs of UK licence fee payers, first and foremost. But yes, a global internet, that challenges lots of assumptions that previously were not even explicity. Why not write to them and tell 'em - seriously ,it's their job to hear views from people

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I'm in-- i think? On 18 Apr 2007, at 20:55, Richard P Edwards wrote: And the same here . I got kicked off after about 60% when I said I was male. hhm. Oh well, perhaps 35-44 age bracket is already full. On 18 Apr 2007, at 19:40, Toni Sant wrote: Here's what I got: Many thanks

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ld grandma of 4? -Original Message- From: Toni Sant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2007 19:40 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC Archive trial Here's what I got: Many thanks for your time - unfortunately you did not meet the recruitment cr

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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2007 20:47 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial Hey Tom, By making it UK centric, isn't the BBC missing the public values of an awful lot of us that no longer inhabit that island all year? Or are there pages writte

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And the same here . I got kicked off after about 60% when I said I was male. hhm. Oh well, perhaps 35-44 age bracket is already full. On 18 Apr 2007, at 19:40, Toni Sant wrote: Here's what I got: Many thanks for your time - unfortunately you did not meet the recruitment criteria

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rea of candidacy age-wise (18-24 male bracket)... Or maybe that's why I wasn't accepted... Maybe I should say I'm a 74 year old grandma of 4? > -Original Message- > From: Toni Sant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 18 April 2007 19:40 > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.

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Hey Tom, By making it UK centric, isn't the BBC missing the public values of an awful lot of us that no longer inhabit that island all year? Or are there pages written in Polish etc, just to please the total UK population. I wish the Trust would accept BBC internet presence for what it

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Here's what I got: Many thanks for your time - unfortunately you did not meet the recruitment criteria for this trial. Is there a list of recruitment criteria? Cheers... ...t.s. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Fo

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it'll be delivered via the internet... using that funny HTML stuff (streamed in Real/WM I expect, cos that'll make it easier to set up - it is a trial after all...). The actual site itself is very nice, IMHO (not that I had anything to do with it!) On 18/04/07, James Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

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On 18/04/07, Gordon Joly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 16:39 +0100 18/4/07, Ian Forrester wrote: >Hi All, > >Outside of the framework debate... > >The BBC Archive trial is getting closer to opening its doors. >Exclusively I can now tell you that the register your interest form >is up (16:30). So

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Ian - any idea how this trial is going to be delivered? any tech specs on the trial itself? i'm thinking scary black boxes and dial groups. wait, that was nielson. --- :) On 18 Apr 2007, at 16:39, Ian Forrester wrote: Hi All, Outside of the framework debate... The BBC Archive trial

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At 16:39 +0100 18/4/07, Ian Forrester wrote: Hi All, Outside of the framework debate... The BBC Archive trial is getting closer to opening its doors. Exclusively I can now tell you that the register your interest form is up (16:30). So if your interested in taking part in the trial, go to ht

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On 18/04/07, Nic James Ferrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Ian Forrester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The BBC Archive trial is getting closer to opening its > doors. Exclusively I can now tell you that the register your > interest form is up (16:30). So if your interested in taking part in > t

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"Ian Forrester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The BBC Archive trial is getting closer to opening its > doors. Exclusively I can now tell you that the register your > interest form is up (16:30). So if your interested in taking part in > the trial, go to http://bbc.co.uk/archive now. Euuwww... tha