Re: Prophecy

2004-01-23 Thread Brent Poirier
If I didnt know any better I would have said that Abdul-Baha was cheating in order to make 3.5 days into 1260 years. Perhaps Im missing something... The Master's use of a year to represent 360 days and a month 30 etc., is well-established and is really pretty universally accepted by

re: SAQ question

2004-01-19 Thread Brent Poirier
Often, `Abdul-Baha gives different or additional applications of familiar Bible verses; for example, cutting off the right hand or plucking out the eye [Matthew 18:9] to mean expulsion of Covenant-breakers [BWF 432] is a completely original interpretation. I think that He is not here speaking

Opening the gates of all things

2004-01-17 Thread Brent Poirier
I have heard from one of the friends that there is a Tablet from Baha'u'llah in which He says that if a person wants the things of this world in preference to the spiritual gifts God offers, God in His justice will give them to him in abundance, because throughout all the worlds of God, that's

Re: Baha'i Saints, Heroes, Martyrs, Administrators

2004-01-17 Thread Brent Poirier
Being a martyr is easier than being a bureaucrat? Amazing! The true calling of a Baha'i administrator is a very high one. It calls on one to be a complete person, to have a well-developed panoply of virtues, and to be wholly consecrated to the well-being of the Cause of Bahaullah and

Re: Baha'i Saints, Heroes, Martyrs, Administrators

2004-01-17 Thread Brent Poirier
I'd be interested to know where he got the idea that the Guardian was arranging these categories from easiest to most difficult. I assume that is his own view, based on his own experiences. Given that this is the view of a man who lived through the Nazi persecution of the Baha'i community, it

Re: Baha'i Saints, Heroes, Martyrs, Administrators

2004-01-17 Thread Brent Poirier
But none of the above specifically relate to being an administrator. Why not call the above a saint instead? You are quite correct, this is saintly behavior. And Mr. Grossman's point was that to be a real Baha'i administrator, one needs to be a saint. Baha'i administration isn't about

How to stop Microsoft Word from changing Baha'i to Baha'I and Kitab-i-Aqdas to Kitab-I-Aqdas

2003-12-23 Thread Brent Poirier
It has to do with the autoformatting feature. In Word click FORMAT Then AUTOFORMAT OPTIONS button AUTOCORRECT tab The cursor should be blinking in the replace box. Type the small letter i. In the larger box below it you will see that a list appears, and at the top of the list on the

RE: World Govt and the UHJ

2003-12-19 Thread Brent Poirier
Is it possible to get this memorandum in a Word document, or is there somewhere on the Net where it can be found formatted? I access the messages on this list on the Net, and the memorandum came across very broken up. Thanks Brent attorney at newmexico dot com -- You are subscribed

Re: Temple Designs by Mason Remey

2003-12-11 Thread Brent Poirier
Has the House actually confirmed that the Remey design will be built? Given that the Master and Guardian approved Remey and his design before he broke the covenant, it would seem that the House would have grounds to alter the decision. Does it seem credible or consistent that either the

Re: Temple Designs by Mason Remey

2003-12-11 Thread Brent Poirier
'Abdu'l-Baha permitted the covenant breaker to live at the mansion at Bahji, even paying their expenses. In contrast, Shoghi Effendi could not wait to get them out and bulldoze their shanty appendages. How do we view Shoghi Effendi's actions in light of 'Abdu'l-Baha's? It's my view

Re: Recite ye the verses of God every morn and eventide

2003-12-08 Thread Brent Poirier
Dear Friends, Allah'u'Abha... Does the verses of God include the Writings of the Bab too? With much love, Ardalan In the Notes to the Aqdas the House states that the Guardian has stated that neither the Writings of the Master nor those of the Guardian are intended by this verse. My

Re: America and the Most Great Peace: More elucidation

2003-12-04 Thread Brent Poirier
Patti Goebel wrote: Dear Brent, You are most correct in identifying our neglegence. How often I've = heard someone say We should have brought a camera! or What year was = that? I am not so sure it is negligence; more often we just don't think of it. We don't have a historical

`Abdu'l-Baha in Egypt

2003-11-20 Thread Brent Poirier
Mirza Ahmad Sohrab kept a diary of events during the Master's sojourn in Egypt, including, as I recall, some Tablets. This book, published as `Abdu'l-Baha in Egypt was reviewed by the US NSA and was a kind of peace offering to Sohrab in a vain effort to attract him back to the Administration.

Re: The Lesser Covenant of the Bab

2003-11-08 Thread Brent Poirier
Richard Gravelly wrote: Below is a narration of those new laws of the Bab'i Dispensation, Revealed by Tahirih and possibly Quddus as two of the Successors of the Bab. And quoted from the Dawn-breakers: Still others who recognized the authority of both Tahirih and Quddus viewed the whole

The System of the Babi Faith

2003-11-05 Thread Brent Poirier
In God Passes By, Shoghi Effendi explains that the Vazir Haji Mirza Aqasi engineered the banishment of the Bab to the remotest outreaches in northwest Persia. However, this isolation that the plot of the Vazir brought about, actually allowed the Bab uninterrupted time to develop His Faith.

The Lesser Covenant of the Bab

2003-11-05 Thread Brent Poirier
My second question derives from the same sentence of the Guardian, in which he describes the fruit of the Bab's three-year banishment to the mountains of Adhirbayjan: Little did he [Aqasi] imagine that the very isolation he was forcing upon his Prisoner would enable Him to evolve the System

Re: Adam as Manifestion

2003-11-04 Thread Brent Poirier
Some quotes referencing / implying Adam was a Manifestation: It seems to me that the whole notion of the First man implies a Manifestation. It all depends on how one defines man and if humanity implies the capacity to know God, how could one know God if there was no Manifestation? Similarly,

Re: Designation of Avarih as Hand of the Cause of God

2003-10-21 Thread Brent Poirier
Faruq wrote: Dear friends as we haven't seen all letters and tablets revealed by `Abdu'l-Baha, we cannot definitely comment that there has never been such a thing like designating Muhammad Hussayn Shafti, Avareh, as Hand of the Cause. There is another sense in which a believer might be

Re: Designation of Avarih as Hand of the Cause of God

2003-10-20 Thread Brent Poirier
*Another case of suppression involves John E. Esselmont's use of materials by the former Baha'i historian Abdu'l-Husayn Ayati, named Avarih or Wanderer by Abdu'l-Baha. Avarih was also a Hand of the Cause I note that there is no footnote to Mr. Salisbury's assertion that Avarih was designated

Re: Pure/used water

2003-10-14 Thread Brent Poirier
The link to Arthur Dahl's paper didn't come through the last time, let's see if it does this time. Brent http://bahai-library.org/conferences/water.html QUESTION: Concerning pure water, and the point at which it is considered used. David, you might find this brief paper presented

Re: Pure/used water

2003-10-13 Thread Brent Poirier
QUESTION: Concerning pure water, and the point at which it is considered used. David, you might find this brief paper presented by Arthur Dahl at a Symposium on Water interesting -- The Baha'i Perspective on Water. I believe Arthur was working for an international agency at the time, and may

Re: Social problems in the Baha'i Faith

2003-10-13 Thread Brent Poirier
M. Chase wrote: Personally, I don't care who does the research. A more important point in my mind is that Bahais need to figure out for themselves what works and doesn't work in the administrative order and how to make improvements. We need to be able to learn how the administration order

Re: Social problems in the Baha'i Faith

2003-10-11 Thread Brent Poirier
Has there been any scholarship on social problems within the Baha'i Faith, such as abusive behavior, corruption of institutions, and mind-control cults? Jim Jim, I think the questions are unduly harsh. I've helped with investigations of sensitive cases as an ad hoc basis from time to time; I

Re: Divine punishment

2003-10-05 Thread Brent Poirier
If, however, he persisteth in his error, God will, assuredly, send down one who will deal mercilessly with him. (Baha'u'llah: The Kitab-i-Aqdas, Page: 32) I'm not familiar with any interpretive passages in the Writings about this verse, and I'm not sure how to understand it. The language

Re: Fw: UHJ and majority vote.

2003-10-03 Thread Brent Poirier
I missed the part of the Constitution and By-laws that Guy posted. The only specific reference I can find in the Constitution of the House of Justice to the requirement for the entire membership to be present in consultation on a matter, is at the very end of the Constitution and Bylaws: This

Re: Manifestations only from the east?

2003-09-07 Thread Brent Poirier
Are there any other Mount Carmel's I should know about? As has been quoted, the Master compared the vegetation in California to that of the Holy Land, and then prayed that a spiritual similarity would develop as well. I recall reading a pilgrim's note where the Master referred to California

Re: vinson jamir

2003-09-06 Thread Brent Poirier
Also, I'm trying to get in touch with two of his old friends, Andrea Jordan and Jeff Miller. I know Andrea Jordan used to live in Baytown, TX, taught ESL in China, and has two children (Vahid and Deana). Jeff Miller, I believe, lives in Mexico. Any form of contact information for these two

Re: Revival and Decline

2003-09-03 Thread Brent Poirier
In my personal view, the moral corruption in America is accelerating. In the last 2 or 3 years the lack of moral conscience related to sexuality among many of the young, and the increasing number of people who have no conscience when it comes to murder and other acts for selfish reasons, has

Re: Revival and Decline

2003-09-03 Thread Brent Poirier
Dear Brent, Do you have any evidence for this? It is my understanding that the crime rate is actually down. I've been fortunate in that I have not been touched much by crime in my life, so it is not based on that kind of personal experience. Nor is it because crimes now are more heinous,

Re: the fragrance of His garment

2003-09-01 Thread Brent Poirier
From the language of this statement do we know whether 'His' in the fragrance of His garment refers to God or to the person of Baha'u'llah? And then, what is your understanding as to the meaning of 'garment'? The metaphor of the 'fragrant garment' is frequently used in the Baha'i

Re: The Passing of Vinson Jamir

2003-08-27 Thread Brent Poirier
Does anyone know how I can write to his widow with my condolences? Loni Bramson You can write to any U.S. Baha'i c/o the Office of Membership and Records, Baha'i National Center, Wilmette IL 60091 and that office will forward it. They will not release the address to you, but will forward it.

Re: Conferred Infallibility of the House of Justice

2003-08-25 Thread Brent Poirier
You state the Writings bestow the House of Justice with these powers but what you quote is the House of Justice itself which isn't exactly saying that at all. The Writings bestow those powers but often do not use those terms of art. The House has condensed the descriptions of those powers

Re: Conferred Infallibility of the House of Justice

2003-08-25 Thread Brent Poirier
That is, each word of the Constitution describing a power of the House rests squarely on a verse in the Writings. Dear Brent, Where does it say that? In a letter dated 3 June 1997 from the House of Justice. I found it on Ocean: There remains the question concerning the authority for

Re: Conferred Infallibility of the House of Justice

2003-08-25 Thread Brent Poirier
That is, each word of the Constitution describing a power of the House rests squarely on a verse ? in the Writings. }Dear Brent, }Where does it say that? This is again stated by the House of Justice in more exalted language, in the Constitution itself: The provenance, the authority, the

Lamps before the Throne

2003-08-25 Thread Brent Poirier
There are some passages from Baha'u'llah which echo prophecies in the Revelation of John. In the Revelation of John, Chapter 4 is written: “After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said,

Conferred Infallibility of the House of Justice

2003-08-24 Thread Brent Poirier
It is often pointed out that the House of Justice is infallibly guided when it legislates to fill the gaps intentionally left by Baha'u'llah in the fabric of His laws. That is, that the House is guided in the laws the House itself creates. This is true of course, but as the Guardian states, the

How to type the word Baha’i in Microsoft Word with accents over the a and the i

2003-08-14 Thread Brent Poirier
How to type the word Baha’i with accents over the a and the i (I'm using Windows ME so your mileage may vary) 1. B 2. a 3. h 4. control- apostrophe (hold down the control key and strike the apostrophe key, the key two to the right of the “L” key, and release them both at the same time.)

RE: Nabi and Rasul

2003-08-14 Thread Brent Poirier
-Original Message- From: Timothy Nolan My point, which may have been obvious from my previous post, is that if Baha'u'llah was neither Nabi nor Rasul, if He was of a different category, then the Seal of the Prophets problem goes away. That is, if Muhammad said there will be no X or Y

RE: Nabi and Rasul

2003-08-14 Thread Brent Poirier
Don Calkins writes: As does Jesus in the parable of the master of the vineyard (Mark 12, Mathew 21, and Luke 20). And the other aspect of that parable/ prophecy by Jesus, is that the Hebrew word carm means vineyard and carm-El means Vineyard of the Lord. Four times He visited Haifa, His