Re: [bareos-users] It is not possible to install "Bareos" in the latest version of Debian 9 (Stretch)

2017-08-10 Thread Seitan 
On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 10:45:32 AM UTC+3, philipp.storz wrote:
> Hello Wolfgang,
> 
> Am 10.08.2017 um 09:28 schrieb Wolfgang Denk:
> > Dear Philipp,
> > 
> > In message <9ea2-d29f-50c6-489d-5b7f06272...@bareos.com> you wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello, since bareos are no longer providing packages for community users,
> >>
> >> Please stop claiming this as it is not true.
> >>
> >> Where do you get that information from?
> > 
> > Probably from your own web site)
> Please read precisely.
> 
> "Initial major releases are available on download.bareos.org"
> 
> Also, the first sentence on download.bareos.org says:
> 
> "We publish binaries for the first version of each major release"
> 
> So we provide packages to the community for our major releases.
> 
> > [1] reads:
> > 
> > Maintenance releases are, as source code, available to
> > everyone. However, as packages (from a repository), they are
> > only available to subscription customers on
> > download.bareos.com.
> > 
> > So if packages are only available to subscription customers, this
> > obviously means that they are not available to community users.
> 
> Right, MAINTENANCE packges are only available to subscription customers, but 
> we do provide packages
> for our major releases on a yearly basis.
> 
> This is the way that we provide packages since bareos exists, so we did not 
> change anything there
> and it is not correct that we "stopped" providing packages for the community.
> 
> It would be nice if people would show the same dedication in helping the 
> project as they do in
> criticizing that there is something that they do not get for free.
Nobody criticizes you. We are helping the project by maintaining packages of 
latest versions which includes bug fixes and features not availabe in first 
major release.

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Re: [bareos-users] It is not possible to install "Bareos" in the latest version of Debian 9 (Stretch)

2017-08-10 Thread Wolfgang Denk 
Dear Philipp,

In message <925d9c13-41ca-9d96-ee17-e6e90dc5e...@bareos.com> you wrote:
> 
> Right, MAINTENANCE packges are only available to subscription customers, but 
> we do provide packages
> for our major releases on a yearly basis.

True.  But I guess we agree that this is a pretty unusual policy.
I can't remeber any other project doing it this way.

> It would be nice if people would show the same dedication in helping the 
> project as they do in
> criticizing that there is something that they do not get for free.

I did not mean to criticize you.  I just tried to explain where the
OP's statement probably comes from.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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Re: [bareos-users] It is not possible to install "Bareos" in the latest version of Debian 9 (Stretch)

2017-08-10 Thread Philipp Storz 
Hello Wolfgang,

Am 10.08.2017 um 09:28 schrieb Wolfgang Denk:
> Dear Philipp,
> 
> In message <9ea2-d29f-50c6-489d-5b7f06272...@bareos.com> you wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, since bareos are no longer providing packages for community users,
>>
>> Please stop claiming this as it is not true.
>>
>> Where do you get that information from?
> 
> Probably from your own web site)
Please read precisely.

"Initial major releases are available on download.bareos.org"

Also, the first sentence on download.bareos.org says:

"We publish binaries for the first version of each major release"

So we provide packages to the community for our major releases.

> [1] reads:
> 
> Maintenance releases are, as source code, available to
> everyone. However, as packages (from a repository), they are
> only available to subscription customers on
> download.bareos.com.
> 
> So if packages are only available to subscription customers, this
> obviously means that they are not available to community users.

Right, MAINTENANCE packges are only available to subscription customers, but we 
do provide packages
for our major releases on a yearly basis.

This is the way that we provide packages since bareos exists, so we did not 
change anything there
and it is not correct that we "stopped" providing packages for the community.

It would be nice if people would show the same dedication in helping the 
project as they do in
criticizing that there is something that they do not get for free.




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Re: [bareos-users] It is not possible to install "Bareos" in the latest version of Debian 9 (Stretch)

2017-08-10 Thread Wolfgang Denk 
Dear Philipp,

In message <9ea2-d29f-50c6-489d-5b7f06272...@bareos.com> you wrote:
> 
> > Hello, since bareos are no longer providing packages for community users,
> 
> Please stop claiming this as it is not true.
> 
> Where do you get that information from?

Probably from your own web site?

[1] reads:

Maintenance releases are, as source code, available to
everyone. However, as packages (from a repository), they are
only available to subscription customers on
download.bareos.com.

So if packages are only available to subscription customers, this
obviously means that they are not available to community users.

Or am I missing something?

[1] https://www.bareos.org/en/

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Wolfgang Denk

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Re: [bareos-users] It is not possible to install "Bareos" in the latest version of Debian 9 (Stretch)

2017-08-10 Thread Philipp Storz 
Hello Seitan,

Am 10.08.2017 um 08:18 schrieb Seitan:
> Hello, since bareos are no longer providing packages for community users,

Please stop claiming this as it is not true.

Where do you get that information from?

Our policy how and when we provide packages is described here: 
http://download.bareos.org/bareos/

> you can use unofficial bareos repository:
> http://bareos.ring.lt/
>

Best regards,

Philipp


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Re: [bareos-users] It is not possible to install "Bareos" in the latest version of Debian 9 (Stretch)

2017-06-19 Thread Ian Malo 
Hello friends.

I am a beginner trying to use Bareos to do the backups of a small company and I 
was for a long time researching on this topic so I tried to start with a fresh 
installation of Debian 9.

Regards,
Ian.


El Lunes, Junio 19, 2017 13:01 -05, Stephan Duehr  Ha 
escrito:
 Hi,

there are no packages for Debian 9 on download.bareos.org.
This looks like you are trying to install the Debian 8 packages from 
download.bareos.org on Debian 9,
that's not going to work.

Is your system a new installation of Debian 9 or did you upgrade a Debian 8 
system?

Regards,

Stephan

On 06/19/2017 10:20 AM, Ian Malo wrote:
> With the latest version available I get many problems, such as the following:
>
> /apt-get install bareos bareos-database-mysql
> Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
> Creando árbol de dependencias
> Leyendo la información de estado... Hecho
> No se pudieron instalar algunos paquetes. Esto puede significar que
> usted pidió una situación imposible o, si está usando la distribución
> inestable, que algunos paquetes necesarios aún no se han creado o se
> han sacado de «Incoming».
> La siguiente información puede ayudar a resolver la situación:
>
> Los siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas:
> bareos : Depende: bareos-director (= 16.2.4-12.1) pero no va a instalarse
> Depende: bareos-storage (= 16.2.4-12.1) pero 16.2.4-3 va a ser instalado
> Depende: bareos-client (= 16.2.4-12.1) pero 16.2.4-3 va a ser instalado
> bareos-database-mysql : Depende: libmysqlclient18 (>= 5.5.24+dfsg-1) pero no 
> es instalable
> E: No se pudieron corregir los problemas, usted ha retenido paquetes rotos./
>
>
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Re: [bareos-users] It is not possible to install "Bareos" in the latest version of Debian 9 (Stretch)

2017-06-19 Thread Daniel Tombeil 
Hello,

I realized my testcase using the bareos packages provided by Debian 9 Repos. 
They are quite current and work fine. Also it was easy to build backported 
packages for Jessie based on the Stretch sources using one existing Jessie 
backport. So I can use great features like "client initiated connections" also 
on older Jessie nodes. But have a shiny new backup server with Debian 9 and its 
full security support span.

> Am 19.06.2017 um 20:01 schrieb Stephan Duehr :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> there are no packages for Debian 9 on download.bareos.org.
> This looks like you are trying to install the Debian 8 packages from 
> download.bareos.org on Debian 9,
> that's not going to work.
> 
> Is your system a new installation of Debian 9 or did you upgrade a Debian 8 
> system?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Stephan
> 
>> On 06/19/2017 10:20 AM, Ian Malo wrote:
>> With the latest version available I get many problems, such as the following:
>> 
>> /apt-get install bareos bareos-database-mysql
>> Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
>> Creando árbol de dependencias   
>> Leyendo la información de estado... Hecho
>> No se pudieron instalar algunos paquetes. Esto puede significar que
>> usted pidió una situación imposible o, si está usando la distribución
>> inestable, que algunos paquetes necesarios aún no se han creado o se
>> han sacado de «Incoming».
>> La siguiente información puede ayudar a resolver la situación:
>> 
>> Los siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas:
>> bareos : Depende: bareos-director (= 16.2.4-12.1) pero no va a instalarse
>>  Depende: bareos-storage (= 16.2.4-12.1) pero 16.2.4-3 va a ser 
>> instalado
>>  Depende: bareos-client (= 16.2.4-12.1) pero 16.2.4-3 va a ser 
>> instalado
>> bareos-database-mysql : Depende: libmysqlclient18 (>= 5.5.24+dfsg-1) pero no 
>> es instalable
>> E: No se pudieron corregir los problemas, usted ha retenido paquetes rotos./
>> 
>> 
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Re: [bareos-users] It is not possible to install "Bareos" in the latest version of Debian 9 (Stretch)

2017-06-19 Thread Stephan Duehr 
Hi,

there are no packages for Debian 9 on download.bareos.org.
This looks like you are trying to install the Debian 8 packages from 
download.bareos.org on Debian 9,
that's not going to work.

Is your system a new installation of Debian 9 or did you upgrade a Debian 8 
system?

Regards,

Stephan

On 06/19/2017 10:20 AM, Ian Malo wrote:
> With the latest version available I get many problems, such as the following:
> 
> /apt-get install bareos bareos-database-mysql
> Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
> Creando árbol de dependencias   
> Leyendo la información de estado... Hecho
> No se pudieron instalar algunos paquetes. Esto puede significar que
> usted pidió una situación imposible o, si está usando la distribución
> inestable, que algunos paquetes necesarios aún no se han creado o se
> han sacado de «Incoming».
> La siguiente información puede ayudar a resolver la situación:
> 
> Los siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas:
>  bareos : Depende: bareos-director (= 16.2.4-12.1) pero no va a instalarse
>   Depende: bareos-storage (= 16.2.4-12.1) pero 16.2.4-3 va a ser 
> instalado
>   Depende: bareos-client (= 16.2.4-12.1) pero 16.2.4-3 va a ser 
> instalado
>  bareos-database-mysql : Depende: libmysqlclient18 (>= 5.5.24+dfsg-1) pero no 
> es instalable
> E: No se pudieron corregir los problemas, usted ha retenido paquetes rotos./
> 
>  
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[bareos-users] It is not possible to install "Bareos" in the latest version of Debian 9 (Stretch)

2017-06-19 Thread Ian Malo 
With the latest version available I get many problems, such as the following:

apt-get install bareos bareos-database-mysql
Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
Creando árbol de dependencias   
Leyendo la información de estado... Hecho
No se pudieron instalar algunos paquetes. Esto puede significar que
usted pidió una situación imposible o, si está usando la distribución
inestable, que algunos paquetes necesarios aún no se han creado o se
han sacado de «Incoming».
La siguiente información puede ayudar a resolver la situación:

Los siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas:
 bareos : Depende: bareos-director (= 16.2.4-12.1) pero no va a instalarse
  Depende: bareos-storage (= 16.2.4-12.1) pero 16.2.4-3 va a ser 
instalado
  Depende: bareos-client (= 16.2.4-12.1) pero 16.2.4-3 va a ser 
instalado
 bareos-database-mysql : Depende: libmysqlclient18 (>= 5.5.24+dfsg-1) pero no 
es instalable
E: No se pudieron corregir los problemas, usted ha retenido paquetes rotos.

 

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