Re: Why BBE pisses me off

2011-08-22 Thread Craig Heilman
On Aug 21, 2011, at 4:06 PM, Lawrence San wrote: I still have my 4.5 CD in a box somewhere... Bah, you kids today. I remember when BBEdit came sandwiched between two rocks -- the same rocks we used to grind our meat with. That's why they called it bare bones. *Snicker* I still have my

Re: Why BBE pisses me off

2011-08-21 Thread Jon
Firstly, thanks to the people who are helpful and make this forum a nice place to visit. Since joining this group, I have been amazed at the overall negativity and whining of this user base, but this thread takes the cake. I used to be a TextMate user but finally accepted that its continued

Re: Why BBE pisses me off

2011-08-21 Thread peter lindsay
I think one problem has been the incessant trumpeting on arrival of BBEdit 10. Has it raised unrealistic expectations? It's only a text editor for heavens sake. I think we need to maintain a sense of proportion. Peter Sent from my mobile On 21 Aug 2011, at 09:35 AM, John Delacour

Re: Why BBE pisses me off

2011-08-21 Thread François Schiettecatte
I think it is time to snip this thread :) François On Aug 21, 2011, at 1:46 AM, Jon wrote: Firstly, thanks to the people who are helpful and make this forum a nice place to visit. Since joining this group, I have been amazed at the overall negativity and whining of this user base, but

Why BBE pisses me off

2011-08-20 Thread MacCooler
What ding-dong thought it a good idea to force the pane on the left (files, forced their btw) to open EVERY D*MN time a document is opened? Really? Are you f***ing kidding me? Every time I open a file, that stupid pane jams my edit area to the right, and I have to command + 0 AGAIN. I open 200 to

Re: Why BBE pisses me off

2011-08-20 Thread Herbert Schulz
On Aug 20, 2011, at 2:28 AM, MacCooler wrote: What ding-dong thought it a good idea to force the pane on the left (files, forced their btw) to open EVERY D*MN time a document is opened? Really? Are you f***ing kidding me? Every time I open a file, that stupid pane jams my edit area to the

Re: Why BBE pisses me off

2011-08-20 Thread G. T. Stresen-Reuter
Wow. Somebody's having a bad day... RTFM And then try being a little more polite before asking for help next time. Ted -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To

Re: Why BBE pisses me off

2011-08-20 Thread David Kendal
The only reasonable response to people who are *this* mean is to laugh at them. And laugh I did. — dpk Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to

Re: Why BBE pisses me off

2011-08-20 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 09:46:04 -0400, Herbert Schulz he...@wideopenwest.com wrote: Sure, be nasty, that will get you lots of help! I found it rather humorous. I do not know if that was his intention. Aaron W. Hsu -- Programming is just another word for the lost Art of Thinking. --

Re: Why BBE pisses me off

2011-08-20 Thread David Alexander
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 15:10:31 +0100, G. T. Stresen-Reuter tedmaster...@gmail.com wrote: Wow. Somebody's having a bad day... RTFM And then try being a little more polite before asking for help next time. I don't see him asking for help. I see him venting his frustration after spending too much

Re: Why BBE pisses me off

2011-08-20 Thread Neil Tiffin
On Aug 20, 2011, at 1:03 PM, David Alexander wrote: On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 15:10:31 +0100, G. T. Stresen-Reuter tedmaster...@gmail.com wrote: Wow. Somebody's having a bad day... RTFM And then try being a little more polite before asking for help next time. I don't see him asking for

Re: Why BBE pisses me off

2011-08-20 Thread tedmasterweb
I stand corrected. He wasn't asking for help. He was indeed just venting. I wonder if that helped him (or her) solve his (or her) issues... Ted -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to

Re: Why BBE pisses me off

2011-08-20 Thread G. T. Stresen-Reuter
On Aug 20, 2011, at 10:48 PM, Neil Tiffin wrote: RTFM is ruder and has even less value than the original comment. Just to clarify, had the original poster read the manual, as a prior reply suggested, he/she would have seen that there were already solutions to the complaints. Instead, he/she

Re: Why BBE pisses me off

2011-08-20 Thread Watts Martin
David Alexander wrote: It's quite obvious from the message traffic over the past couple months that BB really missed the mark with some of the enhancements in v10. It's also quite obvious from the message traffic over the past few months that there's been a HUGE influx of new BBEdit users.

Re: Why BBE pisses me off

2011-08-20 Thread G. T. Stresen-Reuter
On Aug 20, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Watts Martin wrote: users who've been using BBEdit for a very, very long time I still have my 4.5 CD in a box somewhere... I can even remember reviewers going on and on about what great support it had for HTML! Ted -- You received this message because you are

Re: Why BBE pisses me off

2011-08-20 Thread Watts Martin
G. T. Stresen-Reuter wrote: I still have my 4.5 CD in a box somewhere... I can even remember reviewers going on and on about what great support it had for HTML! That beats me by quite a distance. :) I started with BBEdit 6.0 after switching to the Mac from Windows, and buying BBEdit on the

Re: Why BBE pisses me off

2011-08-20 Thread Bucky Junior
If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. On Aug 20, 2011, at 1:28 AM, MacCooler wrote: GET THE PICTURE? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group

Re: Why BBE pisses me off

2011-08-20 Thread Neil Tiffin
On Aug 20, 2011, at 6:49 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: At 16:48 -0500 on 08/20/2011, Neil Tiffin wrote about Re: Why BBE pisses me off: The key is balancing the needs/desires of many different types of users and without usability professionals involved it will be wrong. Or get your

Re: Why BBE pisses me off

2011-08-20 Thread Neil Tiffin
On Aug 20, 2011, at 5:38 PM, G. T. Stresen-Reuter wrote: On Aug 20, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Watts Martin wrote: users who've been using BBEdit for a very, very long time I still have my 4.5 CD in a box somewhere... I can even remember reviewers going on and on about what great support it had

Re: Why BBE pisses me off

2011-08-20 Thread David Alexander
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 23:35:11 +0100, G. T. Stresen-Reuter tedmaster...@gmail.com wrote: I disagree that venting is valuable feedback for developers. To me, valuable feedback is a use case followed by usability data that supports one implementation or another. I completely disagree with that.