Re: Bad link to new page - acl

2010-03-14 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 03/14/10 11:41 CST: ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/cmd_tars-oct_09/acl-2.2.49.src.tar.gz No such directory Yeah, I know. It should be on the SGI site soon enough. The HTML link works, so it's not like it cannot be downloaded. Before we release BLFS-6.5 I

LibUSB-1.0.6

2010-03-12 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I would like to update the book to version 1.0.6 of libusb. Has anyone had any problems with this version, or know anything that keeps us from updating the package? It built fine for me, but I'm not sure I use anything that accesses the built package. Updated usbutils-0.86 built and works

Updated D-Bus and HAl

2010-03-12 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I would like to update the book to version 1.2.20 of D-Bus and version 0.5.14 of HAL (D-Bus bindings to current versions as well. Has anyone had any problems with these versions, or know anything that keeps us from updating the packages? They build fine for me, but I'm not sure I use

Re: LibUSB-1.0.6

2010-03-12 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 03/12/10 12:22 CST: The most current version that I've built is 1.0.2. I can't say I've had any problems, but the only usb devices I've used is the mouse and the keyboard. Just out of curiosity, but I'm thinking to myself Bruce doesn't use USB flash drives,

Re: Updated D-Bus and HAl

2010-03-12 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 03/12/10 13:02 CST: As a note, ps is now printing a uid instead of the name if the name is too long. Changing the names s/haldaemon/hald/ and s/messagebus/msgbus/ in /etc/passwd provides the user name. That has been standard behavior for years and years. I

OpenSSH instructions changes

2010-03-04 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, This is mainly to Bruce, but if anyone remembers a discussion about this, please speak up. In the OpenSSH instructions, in changeset r7665, the following was removed (commit by Bruce): sed -i 's@ -ldes@@' configure amp;amp; and its accompanying explanation: paracommandsed -i 's@

TeX Live

2010-03-03 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I believe I have all the kinks worked out for a clean build of Live Tex, which would end up replacing the deprecated teTeX. It is a beast; however, the biggest resource hog I've seen (disk space wise, anyway). The only thing that might stand in our way right now is the sources ship in

Re: Stable BLFS

2010-02-28 Thread Randy McMurchy
DJ Lucas wrote these words on 02/28/10 13:46 CST: Actually, that is not true. We did not have a plan for a stable release AFAIK. I've been building against 6.5+. It had been mentioned a month(s) or more ago that this was the intent. Things just got really slow while Wayne was updating GNOME.

Re: Stable BLFS

2010-02-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/23/10 09:56 CST: There is a lot of confusion bu users about 'stable' BLFS. Should we move it to the museum and only point to the -dev version on the web site? I suppose we need to do something. I will get this done today or this evening. -- Randy

Re: Stable BLFS

2010-02-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
William Immendorf wrote these words on 02/23/10 13:44 CST: Well, this is just my opion, but I want to wait until LFS 6.6 gets released and then release BLFS 6.6. That's just my idea. Well, what is going to happen is a BLFS-6.5. LFS release cycles are simply too often for us to keep up. Right

Re: Testsuite issues

2010-02-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/19/10 22:35 CST: 324 tests OK. 1 test failed: test_distutils This is a known isssu. Python upstream claims it is a problem with another upstream package (coreutils?). test_urllib2_localnet and test_tcl worked for me. Not sure about the urllib2 test,

Re: Testsuite issues

2010-02-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
DJ Lucas wrote these words on 02/20/10 01:38 CST: ## BEGINING TESTSUITE ## running build running build_ext INFO: Can't locate Tcl/Tk libs and/or headers ^[[?1034h Failed to find the necessary bits to build these modules: _bsddb _sqlite3 _tkinter

Re: Unzip 6.0 fails to compile under 64-bit systems with the instructions in the book

2010-02-19 Thread Randy McMurchy
William Immendorf wrote these words on 02/19/10 16:24 CST: Trying the instructions in the book (with a LFS 6.6-rc1 base system), using make -f unix/Makefile linux, on a 64bit Core 2 Duo 2.4ghz system, I get stopped at the near beginning with these errors: Bruce, if you can confirm this (I know

Re: Unzip 6.0 fails to compile under 64-bit systems with the instructions in the book

2010-02-19 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 02/19/10 18:11 CST: It probably just means that it won't use assembly. There's probably some tuned x86 assembly code for doing the decompression, which wouldn't work on x86_64. That's what I figured. I'll make a ticket so the issue isn't forgotten. I think

Testsuite issues

2010-02-19 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Not sure if this is a -dev issue or what but I recently built an LFS-6.5 machine. Everything smooth as silk, other than 3 tests in the gcc suite and 4 in the mudflap suite. Everything else perfect. I'm encountering errors in recent packages I'm building. For example in Python I get:

The State of Xorg

2010-02-14 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Mostly to DJ, FYI for everyone else. Especially for Dan out there lurking! What is the state of the current Xorg installation in BLFS? Is it close to what is going to be released in BLFS-6.5? Will there be significant changes that would cause incompatibilities with the current Xorg

Re: GNOME_PREFIX and GNOME_CONFIG rough draft

2010-02-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
DJ Lucas wrote these words on 02/07/10 15:05 CST: Here is the initial view of core and desktop... Not to make it troublesome, but would it take much to create a diff of that vs. trunk? It is actually easier for me to review changes, than look at completed pages. I'll be getting into things a

Re: NSS only installs nss-config binary + libs

2010-01-16 Thread Randy McMurchy
Matthew Burgess wrote these words on 01/16/10 10:11 CST: Is there a reason particular reason why this line: install -v -m755 $NSS_LINUXDIR/bin/nss-config /usr/bin only installs nss-config and isn't, for example: install -v -m755 $NSS_LINUXDIR/bin/* /usr/bin The reason I ask is that

Re: Alternate Installation Prefixes [Was: Re: Gnome-2.28.0 build notes -- Compatability Symlinks]

2009-10-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
DJ Lucas wrote these words on 10/24/09 10:52 CST: On 10/24/2009 04:30 AM, Lars Bamberger wrote: On my system I created some compatibility symlinks: $GNOME_PREFIX/share/icons - /usr/share/icons $GNOME_PREFIX/share/pixmaps - /usr/share/pixmaps $GNOME_PREFIX/python$PYTHON_VERSION -

Re: D-Bus Bindings

2009-10-05 Thread Randy McMurchy
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: Has anyone got any objections to split the D-Bus Bindings packages into their own individual pages? Reason, less clutter on an individual page. eggdbus is another D-Bus binding package. Well, since you are soliciting opinions, I'd prefer they all stay on one page, but I

Re: XZ-Utils 4.999.9beta

2009-09-30 Thread Randy McMurchy
David Jensen wrote: I'm wondering 'why all the fuss', there are tons of things that could be added or should be updated. Precisely. I just hope to be able to start contributing soon. -- Randy -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: Drop GTK1 from the book

2009-09-27 Thread Randy McMurchy
DJ Lucas wrote: This is a long outstanding bug. A desirable one IMO, but it really comes down to who uses what... It looks like the following packages need to be removed for this to happen: GTK-1, GDK, XMMS, Dillo, Gnome Print-1, Guppi, Gal-1, and GTK-HTML-1 Imlib-1, and GConf-1 will

Re: Linux PAM

2009-09-19 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote: When reviewing the instructions for PAM, I see we are moving the libraries from /lib to /usr/lib. Why? Surely we need the PAM libraries to be available if /usr is not mounted. Look closer. The libraries required for PAM are not moved. What are moved are the .so and .la

Re: GNOME 2.26.3

2009-09-14 Thread Randy McMurchy
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: Ok, I got the shutdown/restart to work from gdm after installing gnome-power-management. Now the question remains, which section should this belong too? core or additional? Also, I always felt that gdm should be core as well. Anyone got any thought or suggestions on

Re: Additional Download section

2009-09-02 Thread Randy McMurchy
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote these words on 09/02/09 07:08 CST: Hi, I notice there is an inconsistency in the use of either 'Required Patch' or 'Required patch' among the packages. Which form should we be using? or does it not matter? Regards, Wayne. I thought I had fixed all these at one time. Oh

Recommended Dependencies

2009-08-29 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, This is a note to the Dev's, and FYI for everyone else. I've noticed this more and more lately that y'all are listing dependencies as recommended, with no explanation or clue as to why. I've mentioned this before in a couple of posts over in -book and was ignored. I think it is important

Re: Recommended Dependencies

2009-08-29 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 08/29/09 08:39 CST: I will go through the book today and find all packages that have recommended dependencies and evaluate them. If they are not identified why it is recommended, I'll reply to this post. This needs to be cleaned up, I'll start the process

Re: Recommended Dependencies

2009-08-29 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 08/29/09 08:39 CST: I will go through the book today and find all packages that have recommended dependencies and evaluate them. If they are not identified why it is recommended, I'll reply to this post. This needs to be cleaned up, I'll start the process

Re: Recommended Dependencies

2009-08-29 Thread Randy McMurchy
DJ Lucas wrote these words on 08/29/09 09:48 CST: Will fix nss in a moment. Simple addition. Care to discuss why it is recommended? -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.28] [GNU ld version 2.16.1] [gcc (GCC) 4.0.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.6] [Linux 2.6.14.3 i686] 10:02:01 up

Re: Recommended Dependencies

2009-08-29 Thread Randy McMurchy
Guy Dalziel wrote these words on 08/29/09 10:24 CST: If they have OpenSSL installed then Links will automatically pick it up, but if not then it's not for us to force them to install it. Exactly. I am guilty of putting in Recommended dependencies for packages that probably don't need it. That's

Re: Recommended Dependencies

2009-08-29 Thread Randy McMurchy
DJ Lucas wrote these words on 08/29/09 10:13 CST: I read that as if you are suggesting that we remove recommended dependencies all together. No, we absolutely need it. For exactly the type of case you present. For example you cited earlier NSS. If you have sqlite3 installed, and use the

Re: Recommended Dependencies

2009-08-29 Thread Randy McMurchy
DJ Lucas wrote these words on 08/29/09 11:20 CST: Randy McMurchy wrote: My take is that Recommended is actually wrong here. I think the proper syntax should be: bridgehead renderas=sect4Required/bridgehead para role=requiredxref linkend=gpm/ (if mouse support is desired

Re: GNOME changes

2009-08-08 Thread Randy McMurchy
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: Hi, Has anyone got any objections if I do the following changes: Do these changes coincide with actual changes GNOME made in their desktop/platform packaging, or your personal opinions? (Sorry about being so lazy to not check myself) -- Randy --

Re: option vs parameter

2009-08-05 Thread Randy McMurchy
Guy Dalziel wrote these words on 08/05/09 10:53 CST: In a recent discussion it was debated whether or not there is any real difference between option and parameter. Parameter places a slight emphasis on the parameter, while option does not. Docbook states

Offline

2009-08-05 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I'll be out of town and offline for a few days (probably until the end of the weekend). I'll see if I can't hit Gmane to stay up with things, but no promises. Have a good week and week-end! -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.25] [GNU ld version 2.16.1] [gcc (GCC) 4.0.3] [GNU C Library

Ghostscript Nitpicks

2009-08-02 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, This is mostly to the devs (Guy), but FYI for anyone else: 1. If you have JasPer installed on your system and you would like to use it with GPL Ghostscript, then we must first remove the local copy and apply a patch: Who is we? We try not to use this is the book unless it is something

Re: GConf and dbus question

2009-08-02 Thread Randy McMurchy
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote these words on 08/02/09 00:04 CST: Hi, I've noticed that the GConf installation places the org.gnome.GConf.Defaults.conf file into /etc/gnome/version/dbus-1/system.d. I don't know enough on how dbus works, but I presume it needs to go into /etc/dbus-1/system.d. Is this

Re: Ghostscript Nitpicks

2009-08-02 Thread Randy McMurchy
Guy Dalziel wrote these words on 08/02/09 10:07 CST: GPL Ghostscript provides many different scripts used to convert PostScript, PDF, and other formats. Please refer to the HTML documentation or the man pages for information about the capabilities provided. Sounds fine to me. -- Randy

New Editors

2009-08-02 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I would like to publicly acknowledge the fine work being done by the two newest Editors on the BLFS team, Guy and Wayne. Not only are they contributing massive commits to the book, the commits themselves are accurate, articulate and complete. It's as if these two have been doing it for

Proposal about current status of GNOME

2009-07-29 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, There is an entity in the book named gnome-version;. It is the major part of a GNOME release. In the case of the current book it is 2.18. We use this entity quite a bit in the URLs of GNOME packages. Wayne is busy updating all the preliminary packages for GNOME. Most GNOME support

Re: Xorg version

2009-07-29 Thread Randy McMurchy
Guy Dalziel wrote these words on 07/29/09 14:22 CST: Do we know what version of Xorg we're goint to use yet? I'm assuming it will be all the latest stuff. If I'm going to compile stuff against it, then I'll need to have some idea of what we're going to use. Well, seeing how the book is at 7.4

Re: Proposal about current status of GNOME

2009-07-29 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 07/29/09 10:52 CST: Create a gnome-target entity and use that until all the packages use it and then do a sed s/target/version/ when appropriate. As always, good plan, Bruce. I'm not sure what you want to comment out. There are many packages that

Re: Xorg version

2009-07-29 Thread Randy McMurchy
Guy Dalziel wrote these words on 07/29/09 16:31 CST: The reason I ask is because I didn't find 7.4 incredibly stable. I've built X exactly as specified before and it crashed when I loaded it up. Xorg server 1.6, however - or pre-7.5, rather - was very stable, and worked as advertised. Well,

Re: Proposal about current status of GNOME

2009-07-29 Thread Randy McMurchy
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote these words on 07/29/09 16:36 CST: I was actually think along the same lines as Bruce, to have two entities (old and new). My suggestion would be the following: gnome-version = 2.26 and gnome-old-version = 2.18, then sed everything to gnome-old-version first. The

Re: Xorg version

2009-07-29 Thread Randy McMurchy
Guy Dalziel wrote these words on 07/29/09 17:00 CST: Most of the stuff in X hasn't been touched in years, so you're not really dealing with anything too unpredictable. 7.4 was released in September of last year. Seemed to me there were lots of changes (some subtle, some not so subtle). I'm

Re: Proposal about current status of GNOME

2009-07-29 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 07/29/09 10:52 CST: Create a gnome-target entity and use that until all the packages use it and then do a sed s/target/version/ when appropriate. Okay. I made some changes to the gnome-version entity. Here's what I did: 1. First found some instances of

Showing LFS-6.5 compatibility

2009-07-26 Thread Randy McMurchy
This is for the devs: I've created an entity called lfs65_checked. When inserted into a file, it will show that the package works with LFS-6.5. See the ATK page for an example. Let's start using it as packages are proved to work against 6.5 -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.25] [GNU ld version

Re: Showing LFS-6.5 compatibility

2009-07-26 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 07/26/09 09:36 CST: This is for the devs: I've created an entity called lfs65_checked. When inserted into a file, it will show that the package works with LFS-6.5. See the ATK page for an example. Let's start using it as packages are proved to work

Re: proposal (and an important message)

2009-07-26 Thread Randy McMurchy
Matthew Burgess wrote these words on 07/26/09 15:47 CST: And I probably have never used them! Anyway, now that my main barrier to entry of make sure all dependant packages work following a package update has been lifted, I may well go all gung-ho following LFS-6.5-RC2 and start actually

Re: proposal (and an important message)

2009-07-26 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 07/26/09 16:14 CST: However, please try to install as many dependencies of the package you are updating as possible. At least common and/or important and/or ones you think most folks will install. That way, we'll know those dependencies don't break

Re: proposal: new approach

2009-07-25 Thread Randy McMurchy
DJ Lucas wrote these words on 07/25/09 08:48 CST: We absolutely need a way to track the pages that have been touched by a quick glance approach. I disagree. I will go through every package and either update Trac or add packages to it as I discover they are out of date. We'll use the Trac

Re: proposal: new approach

2009-07-25 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 07/25/09 09:03 CST: Yes, I don't want to update pages in the book saying it works with such and such. Let's just use Trac. I will ensure each package is accounted for. Please keep in mind that even though I've said I can't promise to do any updates, doesn't

Re: proposal: new approach

2009-07-25 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 07/25/09 09:10 CST: Please keep in mind that even though I've said I can't promise to do any updates, doesn't mean I'm not building up a 6.5 box. But I'm going to wait until there is a real package freeze for 6.5. Which I believe means waiting until

Annotating LFS-6.5 compatibility

2009-07-25 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, After thinking about this, and due to the community's desire to see something about this, I am proposing the following: As BLFS packages are built on top of an LFS-6.5 system, insert the following between the description of the package and the sect3 Package Information. paraThis package

Re: consistency nitpick libogg, libvorbis

2009-07-25 Thread Randy McMurchy
Nathan Coulson wrote these words on 07/25/09 14:12 CST: I noted that libogg/libvorbis install static libraries by default. Some of the packages have the --disable-static keyword mentioned when you have the option of not installing static libraries. In regards to not installing static

Re: Annotating LFS-6.5 compatibility

2009-07-25 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 07/25/09 16:42 CST: I thought we might have a series of entities: lfs65checked; lfs70checked; And then turn them on or off as desired. Again, good plan. -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.25] [GNU ld version 2.16.1] [gcc (GCC) 4.0.3] [GNU C Library

Re: Annotating LFS-6.5 compatibility

2009-07-25 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 07/25/09 16:07 CST: general.ent: !ENTITY lfs65check paraThis package is known to build and work properly using an LFS-6.5 platform./para In fact, we may even need two entities for 6.5. One similar to the above and another to indicate that the current

Re: ruby 1.9 problem

2009-07-25 Thread Randy McMurchy
CC'ing BLFS-Support as this thread is more appropriate there, please respond in that forum. Thanks. Tobias Gasser wrote these words on 07/25/09 18:13 CST: mod_ruby-1.3.0 states supported ruby 1.9 experimentally I don't use Ruby so I cannot help any. However, what did Google spit out? I'm trying

Re: proposal: new approach

2009-07-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Tobias Gasser wrote these words on 07/24/09 15:51 CST: [snip fairly useful, but nothing that we would do, information] i don't want to offend anybody, and i really appreciate the work all the authors are doeing. but the current state of the book is just [censored] And after this comment, I

Re: proposal: new approach

2009-07-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 07/24/09 16:28 CST: [snip getting ugly stuff] Tobias has sent a personal apology via email to me. His apology is accepted. He made good points in his post. In fact, the BDB rejection may have been a bit steep by Guy. But let's get past all that. BLFS

Re: proposal: new approach

2009-07-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 07/24/09 18:03 CST: I think we do need to mark each package with some sort of indication about when it was last reviewed. We do have a Last updated on: tag, but that's not always the best indication because it is automatically updated for things like

Re: New BLFS Editor

2009-07-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote these words on 07/23/09 06:40 CST: I do have one question. How do I change the status of a Trac ticket? I don't see any options/buttons to change either the status or owner, etc. I only see one radio button in the Action section, leave as new. I have established you as

Re: gentoo-ftp-repo

2009-07-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
Guy Dalziel wrote these words on 07/23/09 07:54 CST: Addendum. I just noticed that this issue was discussed 5 months ago, I believe it was decided to wait and see. 5 months is a long time for something to be broken without someone noticing it, and so I think it's time to change the ftp

Re: New BLFS Editor

2009-07-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote these words on 07/23/09 08:30 CST: I didn't know I had a LFS email address. I've been using my own created account, wblaszcz. I've tried logging on as wblas...@linuxfromscratch.org with no success. I've tried a blank password, and both original and new password for

Re: New BLFS Editor

2009-07-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote these words on 07/23/09 08:51 CST: I've already have my own account, 'wblaszcz'. Try now using the above account. I did not realize you already had one. It should work now. -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.25] [GNU ld version 2.16.1] [gcc (GCC) 4.0.3] [GNU C Library

Re: gentoo-ftp-repo

2009-07-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
Guy Dalziel wrote: I just noticed that this issue was discussed 5 months ago, I believe it was decided to wait and see. 5 months is a long time for something to be broken without someone noticing it, and so I think it's time to change the ftp value. Here's one that works:

New BLFS Editor

2009-07-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I'd like to announce that Wayne Blaszczyk has accepted a position as a BLFS Editor. Wayne has recently been sending in patches for the BLFS book to add new packages. Wayne will make a fine addition to the BLFS team and I encourage everyone to welcome him as the newest addition to the

Re: New package: libunique Ticket 2870

2009-07-21 Thread Randy McMurchy
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote these words on 07/21/09 08:31 CST: Hi, I've created a new package for libunique and have attached the diff file to ticket 2870. This library will be a requirement for nautilus 2.26. Thanks Wayne. Just so you know, there are entities for the gnome download locations, so I

Re: Any issues upgrading LFS 6.3 - 6.5

2009-07-21 Thread Randy McMurchy
CC'ing BLFS-Dev because that is where this discussion now belongs. Please respond there. Mike McCarty wrote these words on 07/21/09 14:17 CST: Thanks for the replies, Bruce and Randy. I am not complaining, merely observing. I did offer to do some help with the dev team, if nothing else then

Re: RFC: BLFS-6.4

2009-07-19 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ken Moffat wrote: We could easily put in another line: Last built and tested with LFS version 6.5 immediately above or below the date stamp. I'm not really a fan of doing anything different than what we've been doing. I'm really against a branch for 6.4, as there is simply nobody that

Re: liboil

2009-07-18 Thread Randy McMurchy
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote these words on 07/17/09 21:57 CST: The reason for the CONFIGPARMS was to give the end user an easier way of cutting and pasting all the optional parameters during the build. Maybe the single option --enable-gtk-doc didn't show the benefit. I've attached a libgtop example

Re: LFS-6.5-RC1 released

2009-07-18 Thread Randy McMurchy
Matthew Burgess wrote these words on 07/18/09 10:05 CST: The Linux From Scratch community is pleased to announce the release of LFS Version 6.5 Release Candidate 1. [snip] It is our intention to release LFS-6.5 final within 2 weeks. My personal opinion is that is too aggressive of a timeline,

Re: LFS-6.5-RC1 released

2009-07-18 Thread Randy McMurchy
krendosha...@dementedfury.org wrote these words on 07/18/09 11:14 CST: I think the nature of SVN versions is that it's constantly changing. I've always been under the assumption that BLFS-SVN builds according to LFS-SVN, rather than building against a specific version. No, it has never been

Re: LFS-6.5-RC1 released

2009-07-18 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ken Moffat wrote these words on 07/18/09 11:20 CST: OTOH, I don't have any gcc-4.4 systems, and building one will definitely not be a priority - I need to update my own desktop, and I figure that will be a lot easier if I stick with gcc-4.3 for the first attempt. So, if BLFS-dev has to be

Re: LFS-6.5-RC1 released

2009-07-18 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 07/18/09 12:02 CST: krendosha...@dementedfury.org wrote these words on 07/18/09 11:14 CST: I think the nature of SVN versions is that it's constantly changing. I've always been under the assumption that BLFS-SVN builds according to LFS-SVN, rather than

Re: LFS-6.5-RC1 released

2009-07-18 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ken Moffat wrote these words on 07/18/09 11:20 CST: So, if BLFS-dev has to be suitable for LFS-6.5 then I am ruled out of it until the autumn. Don't worry about that Ken. To be honest, I don't think we have the manpower to get a BLFS release out the door regardless what target environment we

Re: LFS-6.5-RC1 released

2009-07-18 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 07/18/09 14:58 CST: Randy McMurchy wrote: Isn't a 32bit platform becoming almost obsolete anyway? What applications or hardware do you have that require more than 32 bits? That is not what I was driving at. Can you even go out and buy a 32bit Intel/AMD

Re: LFS-6.5-RC1 released

2009-07-18 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ken Moffat wrote these words on 07/18/09 15:48 CST: 2009/7/18 Randy McMurchy ra...@linuxfromscratch.org: Ken Moffat wrote these words on 07/18/09 11:20 CST: So, if BLFS-dev has to be suitable for LFS-6.5 then I am ruled out of it until the autumn. Don't worry about that Ken. Don't worry

Need some Mutt advice

2009-07-17 Thread Randy McMurchy
I've never built Mutt, so anyone that does could help out a bit. I'm in the process of commenting out all the references to GDBM in the book. What I did on the Mutt page was change --disable-gdbm to --enable-gdbm. So now there is both --enable-gdbm and --enable-bdb. Does this do any harm? --

Re: liboil

2009-07-16 Thread Randy McMurchy
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: Howdy folks, I thought I might contribute something to this project after using LFS/BLFS for several years now. I've created a new page for liboil and have attached the diff file to ticket 2820. Let me know if this is the correct way of submitting things. Sorry it has

[Fwd: Question about new contributers]

2009-07-16 Thread Randy McMurchy
For some reason, this message was bounced by the Quantum server. Perhaps it was in HTML, I don't know. Anyway, I happen to see it and thought it belonged so I'm forwarding it. I'll reply after it is posted Original Message Subject: Question about new contributers Date: Thu, 16

Re: Question about new contributers

2009-07-16 Thread Randy McMurchy
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: I made a post 3 days ago to the blfs-dev mailing list in regards to a new package that I created as per the 'Getting Involved' section, and I notice that no one has responded or done anything about it. Sorry about that. I'm really busy and I suppose the others are as

Re: liboil

2009-07-16 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 07/16/09 08:42 CST: Sorry it has taken a couple of days to get back to you. I looked at your patch and it seems very good. The description of liboil is a bit vague, and I don't understand why you used the CONFIGPARMS instead of just adding --prefix=/usr

Re: Question about new contributers

2009-07-16 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 07/16/09 09:06 CST: Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: I think that it would be disappointing if non-editor submissions would take weeks to merge/commit in if at all. I've also notice at least one other ticket where a patch was provided 6 months ago (libtasn1) and yet

Re: liboil

2009-07-16 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 07/16/09 09:19 CST: Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 07/16/09 08:42 CST: Sorry it has taken a couple of days to get back to you. I looked at your patch and it seems very good. The description of liboil is a bit vague, and I don't understand why you used

Re: liboil

2009-07-16 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 07/16/09 09:19 CST: One other thing. Until you have SVN write privileges, you don't need to update the ChangeLog or general.ent, as those files may have changed before your patch is applied making the patch not apply cleanly. Let me clarify. What I meant

Re: liboil

2009-07-16 Thread Randy McMurchy
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: I thought I might contribute something to this project after using LFS/BLFS for several years now. I've created a new page for liboil and have attached the diff file to ticket 2820. Let me know if this is the correct way of submitting things. One other thing, Wayne. If

Re: hal-0.5.9.1 and libvolume_id.h

2009-07-14 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 07/14/09 00:25 CST: BLFS is woefully out of date. HAL-0.5.9.1 is two years old. I've cc'd -dev so please respond to this email to that list. I will take responsibility for BLFS being so out-of-date. HAL was my very next update to do before things have just

New BLFS Editor

2009-07-06 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I'd like to announce that Guy Dalziel has accepted a position as a BLFS Editor. Guy has been regularly contributing to the various LFS mailing lists as well as sending in patches for the BLFS book. Guy will make a fine addition to the BLFS team and I encourage everyone to welcome him as

Re: GnuPG2 with Mutt

2009-07-02 Thread Randy McMurchy
Guy Dalziel wrote: The mutt page mentions the use of GnuPG 2, however it fails to mention the need for gpg2 to be symlinked to gpg in order for the imported commands to work. The attached patch corrects this. We need to work out better text for the patch. Not addressed is the situation where

Re: Ghostscript Patches

2009-03-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
William Immendorf wrote these words on 03/22/09 11:20 CST: A while back, I made some patches to patch BLFS to use GPL Ghostscript 8.64, and you (yes, I'm talking to you, Bruce) ignored them. Now, I'm resending them, hoping you will use them. Not sure why you're talking to Bruce as I own the

Re: Where to place the common root CA certs

2009-03-21 Thread Randy McMurchy
Thomas Trepl wrote these words on 03/21/09 07:40 CST: Hiho, in chapter Root Certificates there is a text saying that the certs should be placed in /etc/ssl/certs. The following instructions do install them in /etc/ssl. What's correct? What is shown on both the certs page and the

Re: Where to place the common root CA certs

2009-03-21 Thread Randy McMurchy
DJ Lucas wrote these words on 03/21/09 09:17 CST: Thomas, that is a recent addition to the book. /etc/ssl/certs used to be the default CAPath for OpenSSL. The correct logical place, in my opinion, is /etc/ssl. I'll update the text in a bit. To me, it makes more sense to put them in

Re: Where to place the common root CA certs

2009-03-21 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote: To me, it makes more sense to put them in /etc/ssl/certs. Why do we want to change this? Has the default CApath variable in the ssl library actually changed? In fact, the OpenSSL docs say to use a /some/where/certs directory. Perhaps you can (should) reconsider your

Re: Using DESTDIR with native Python Installations

2009-03-03 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 03/02/09 23:01 CST: You're looking for python setup.py install --root=$DESTDIR. Thanks Dan. That was helpful. :-) -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.24] [GNU ld version 2.16.1] [gcc (GCC) 4.0.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.6] [Linux 2.6.14.3

SQLite Implementation

2009-03-02 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I'd like to get some input on a question I have, and perhaps comments from others that have used SQLite in real situations. Because SQLite is a serverless SQL database system, I really don't see the need to create user/group ownership of a database as we do with MySQL and PostGreSQL.

Using DESTDIR with native Python Installations

2009-03-02 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I've not tried real hard yet, but I'm stumbling a bit on how to figure out how to use DESTDIR in native python packages that use the syntax 'python setup.py' for installation. Does anyone have a quick solution to this? -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.24] [GNU ld version 2.16.1] [gcc

Re: Questions about the Jasper page

2009-03-01 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ken Moffat wrote these words on 02/25/09 14:01 CST: On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 06:32:56PM -0600, Randy McMurchy wrote: See above. And this is how we do it in most of the BLFS packages where a dependency is soley used to build a sub-part of the package that nothing else in the book depends

Re: libusb-compat requires pkg-config

2009-02-28 Thread Randy McMurchy
Matthew Burgess wrote these words on 02/28/09 17:00 CST: Just to let you know that trying to build libusb-compat early on in a BLFS build fails (hard fail in ./configure) if pkg-config isn't installed. I'll fix this right now. This situation with pkg-config is just going to get worse and

Re: libusb-compat requires pkg-config

2009-02-28 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/28/09 19:33 CST: While I'm not completely against putting pkg-config in LFS, we could also put it into Chapter 3 of BLFS, 'After LFS Configuration Issues'. It wouldn't surprise me if some LFS package looks for pkg-config in the near future. At that time,

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