Re: [blfs-dev] If you are interested in automating

2012-03-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: > Coming to what is needed for automating the book (I do > not mean automating the building of a system, but rather > being able to automate testing), one thing which is > really hard to deal with is the fact that there are several > (sometimes incompatible) options on the sa

Re: [blfs-dev] openssl and web access

2012-03-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 22:38:11 +0100 > Pierre Labastie wrote: > >> Let me propose a patch; see attached > > How about a compromise. I could remove the --with-ssl=openssl and in > the command explanations describe --without-ssl if you don't have > openssl installed? I think -

Re: [blfs-dev] Cleaning up the ticket system

2012-03-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ragnar Thomsen wrote: > I suggest we resolve the following (ancient) tickets as e.g. wontfix: > > 2926+2929: Lua: Scripting language. Optional dep. of VLC. Suggest we keep it > as external dep. > > 2654: Accessibility for blind users. Does anyone really have the time to work > on this? > > 1

Re: [blfs-dev] openssl and web access

2012-03-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 17:57:46 -0600 > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> BTW, what does --localstatedir=/var achieve? > > I don't think it has much effect. Every now and then I grep through my > build logs for directories that shouldn't be there (

Re: [blfs-dev] pkg-config is a dependency D-Bus GLib bindings

2012-03-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: > The tool generated the following build order: > dbus libffi python2 pcre glib2 dbus-glib perl-xml-parser > intltool pkgconfig polkit accountsservice. > Proposed solution: add pkg-config as a required dependency, > and suppress glib2, since it is a dependency of pkg-confi

[blfs-dev] ImageMagick

2012-03-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I wasn't fast enough to get ImageMagick-6.7.5-9 onto the files repository and it has been removed. Can someone please check out ImageMagick-6.7.5-10 and add it to the book. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html U

Re: [blfs-dev] ImageMagick

2012-03-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 01:53:42PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> I wasn't fast enough to get ImageMagick-6.7.5-9 onto the files >> repository and it has been removed. Can someone please check out >> ImageMagick-6.7.5-10 and add it to the book. &g

Re: [blfs-dev] gnome/otherlibs

2012-03-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > Would you be happier if I had said 'sweeping the Augean stables', Ah, a classic education. LOL. Thanks Ken. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: [blfs-dev] gnome/otherlibs

2012-03-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Fri, 09 Mar 2012 13:29:10 + > Ken Moffat wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 09:49:43AM +, Andrew Benton wrote: >>> Sorry, I didn't mean to cause offence. >> Me neither, but I fear my first post was upsetting to *you*. >> Sorry. Ah. The joys of a common langua

[blfs-dev] Postfix

2012-03-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
At the latest change to postfix, the http link is invalid, but the ftp link is OK. We should probably just remove the http link. (Entitiy set to " "). -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the a

Re: [blfs-dev] Postfix

2012-03-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Fri, 09 Mar 2012 18:10:53 + > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> At the latest change to postfix, the http link is invalid, but the ftp >> link is OK. We should probably just remove the http link. (Entitiy set >> to " "). > > Do

Re: [blfs-dev] Gnome 3 Report

2012-03-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: > Hello there. Here are some Gnome recommendations. > > First and one that has been disturbing me since first time I tried to > build gnome with BLFS instructions (where I always failed, of course) is > > Let's remove $GNOME_SYSCONFDIR ... Let everything be installed in /etc, >

[blfs-dev] Urls

2012-03-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
TO all editors: The xml handles the structure: http://tar.gz";> Download (HTTP): Download (FTP): If the entity is a single blank, the list item is suppressed by the xml. There is no need to comment it out. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev

Re: [blfs-dev] Gnome 3 Report

2012-03-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: >>> /etc/bash_completion.d >> I really dislike this one. It's not a configuration file, it is a >> library file. The user/admin will never change these entries. Ant I >> don't like the implementation anyway because bash puts everything in the >> environment. In Fedora, the envir

Re: [blfs-dev] Gnome 3 Report

2012-03-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: > It is not about systemd, it is about ConsoleKit ... ConsoleKit has been > discontinued in favour of systemd-logind (new user seat manager), and it > is just question of time when we will have to add it in the book for > that sake. As for an init system, it is very fast, How

Re: [blfs-dev] Gnome 3 Report

2012-03-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: > I was talking about gnome stuff. It's standard for them to be in > /etc, not /etc/gnome or /var/lib. I can live with it in /etc, but IMO, consolidation of gnome specific config files in one subdirectory would be a "good thing". -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mail

Re: [blfs-dev] Urls

2012-03-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: > On 03/11/2012 07:59 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> TO all editors: >> >> The xml handles the structure: >> >> http://tar.gz";> >> >> >> >> Download (HTTP): >> >> >> Download (FTP)

Re: [blfs-dev] Gnome 3 Report

2012-03-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: > On 03/11/2012 08:34 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Startup finished in 1s 655ms 874us (kernel) + 19s 811ms 430us > (userspace) = 21s 467ms 304us. > > On Pentium 4 2.8GHz and 1024MB of RAM with lots of services. > > acpid, avahi, cronie, rsyslog, udev, dbus,

Re: [blfs-dev] Urls

2012-03-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: >>> Sorry, it rendered an empty space on my machine, so I commented it out. >> Hmm. That shouldn't happen. >> The entity needs to be a single space, " ", not a null string "". >> >> See stylesheets/lfs-xsl/xhtml/lfs-mixed.xsl lines 22-49 >> >> -- Bruce > > See http://i39.tiny

Re: [blfs-dev] Gnome 3 Report

2012-03-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: > On 03/11/2012 09:25 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Armin K. wrote: >>> On 03/11/2012 08:34 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >>> Startup finished in 1s 655ms 874us (kernel) + 19s 811ms 430us >>> (userspace) = 21s 467ms 304us. >>> >>> On Pe

Re: [blfs-dev] Urls

2012-03-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: > On 03/11/2012 09:48 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Armin K. wrote: >> >>>>> Sorry, it rendered an empty space on my machine, so I commented it out. >>>> Hmm. That shouldn't happen. >>>> The entity needs to be a single spac

Re: [blfs-dev] Urls

2012-03-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: > I don't know how, but now everything is rendered properly. Good. Glad that's done. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: [blfs-dev] New package: tor

2012-03-12 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: > I guess you have heard about tor. For those who haven't , visit > https://www.torproject.org/ > > Now, I tought adding it into book, any obligations? I think one or no > external deps are needed for it. It looks like it's fundamentally a web browser. Adding another one is OK.

Re: [blfs-dev] New package: tor

2012-03-12 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:47:43 + > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> It looks like it's fundamentally a web browser. Adding another one is OK. > > No, it's not a web browser. The Onion Router is a way of routing your > traffic through an encryp

Re: [blfs-dev] /postlfs/config/devices

2012-03-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Denis Mugnier wrote: > Hi, > > In the part "Devices for Servers" of the file > /postlfs/config/devices.xml, the command : > > rm /etc/rc.d/rcsysinit.d/{S10udev,S45udev_retry} > > don't work with a LFS 7.0 system. > > The working command is : > > rm /etc/rc.d/rcS.d/{S10udev,S50udev_retry} Th

Re: [blfs-dev] /postlfs/config/devices

2012-03-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Denis Mugnier wrote: > In the same part ... another change juste above the instructions , > > If dynamic devices are not desired, then static devices must be > created on the system. In the default configuration, the > - /etc/rc.d/rcsysinit.d/S10udev boot script mounts a > + /etc/rc.d/rcS.d/

[blfs-dev] Initramfs issues

2012-03-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre posted a proposed patch to the initramfs instructions in ticket 3298. I'd like to discuss the changes here (not exactly in order). - if [ "$2" == "lib" ]; then -file=$(PATH=/lib:/usr/lib type -p $1) + if [ "$2" = "lib" ]; then +file=$(find /lib /usr/lib -maxdepth 1 -name $1 | he

Re: [blfs-dev] Initramfs issues

2012-03-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: > Le 13/03/2012 20:14, Bruce Dubbs a ecrit: >> - if [ "$2" == "lib" ]; then >> -file=$(PATH=/lib:/usr/lib type -p $1) >> + if [ "$2" = "lib" ]; then >> +file=$(find /lib /usr/lib -maxdepth 1 -name $

Re: [blfs-dev] Initramfs issues

2012-03-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: > Le 13/03/2012 20:14, Bruce Dubbs a ecrit: >> - if [ "$2" == "lib" ]; then >> -file=$(PATH=/lib:/usr/lib type -p $1) >> + if [ "$2" = "lib" ]; then >> +file=$(find /lib /usr/lib -maxdepth 1 -name $

Re: [blfs-dev] Initramfs issues

2012-03-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: >> -binfiles="sh cat cp dd killall ls lsmod mkdir mknod mount " >> +binfiles="bash cat cp dd killall ls mkdir mknod mount" >> >> +ln -s bash $WDIR/bin/sh >> >> sh is needed in the case where the user has /bin/sh linked to something >> other than bash. We could do a test and

Re: [blfs-dev] Initramfs issues

2012-03-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
OK, try the updated scripts I just committed when you get a chance. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

[blfs-dev] [Fwd: [lfs-patches] shadow-4.1.5 copydir.c patch!]

2012-03-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
This probably should be a sed in shadow. -- Bruce Original Message Subject: [lfs-patches] shadow-4.1.5 copydir.c patch! Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:47:24 +0200 From: Kostas Tamateas To: patc...@linuxfromscratch.org Hello there! By default shadow fails to compile when ACL &

[blfs-dev] Gnome Core Packages

2012-03-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I have a question about Gnome. We have Chapter 33, GNOME Core Packages, with several subsections: Libraries Shell Extras Utilities Shell Fallback OS Services Are all these really required to get a basic gnome desktop? I especially wonder about "Extras". On the other hand, when we look at Cha

Re: [blfs-dev] [Fwd: [lfs-patches] shadow-4.1.5 copydir.c patch!]

2012-03-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:22:14 + > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> This probably should be a sed in shadow. > > Something like this? > > sed -i '//a#include ' libmisc/copydir.c Exactly. I think it's only needed in BLFS, not LFS,

Re: [blfs-dev] Gnome Core Packages

2012-03-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 02:31:16PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> I have a question about Gnome. We have Chapter 33, GNOME Core Packages, >> with several subsections: >> >> Libraries >> Shell >> Extras >> Utilities >> Shell

[blfs-dev] openssl-1.0.1

2012-03-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
openssl-1.0.1 has just been released. I can't do it for a few days, but if someone else wants to do it, feel free. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: [blfs-dev] Initramfs issues

2012-03-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: > Le 14/03/2012 00:34, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : >> OK, try the updated scripts I just committed when you get a chance. >> >> -- Bruce > Still needs the patch below (suppress lsmod from $binfiles, > since it is added later if needed, and t

Re: [blfs-dev] Info needed.

2012-03-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ragnar Thomsen wrote: >> I've got a bad feeling about this, that could add up to a significant >> number of downloads. The mplayer tarball weighs in at 10MB. >> Having said that, I've put an example here if people want to try it: >> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~andy/mplayer-15-03-12.tar.xz >> W

Re: [blfs-dev] Cleaning up the ticket system

2012-03-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ragnar Thomsen wrote: > I suggest we resolve the following tickets as wontfix: > > #2347 and #2348 (5 yr old): Libmatroska and its dependency libebml. > VLC/MPlayer already support .mkv files through ffmpeg. > > #2354 (5 yr old): Crossover office. Proprietary software (based on wine) to > run

Re: [blfs-dev] MPlayer svn

2012-03-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ragnar Thomsen wrote: > I updated MPlayer to use Andy's svn-snapshot. > > The snapshot should probably be moved to a proper location on anduin (as for > html-tidy). I just updated the master files repository. The updated location is http://anduin.linuxfromscratch.org/sources/BLFS/svn/m/mplayer

Re: [blfs-dev] MPlayer svn

2012-03-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ragnar Thomsen wrote: >> Bruce Dubbs wrote >>> Ragnar Thomsen wrote: >>> I updated MPlayer to use Andy's svn-snapshot. >>> >>> The snapshot should probably be moved to a proper location on anduin (as >>> for html-tidy). >> I just

Re: [blfs-dev] MPlayer svn

2012-03-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:58:23 + > Ragnar Thomsen wrote: > >>> Bruce Dubbs wrote >>>> Ragnar Thomsen wrote: >>>> I updated MPlayer to use Andy's svn-snapshot. >>>> >>>> The snapshot should probably

Re: [blfs-dev] pciutils nitpick

2012-03-18 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: > On 03/18/2012 08:36 AM, Nathan Coulson wrote: >> I could be wrong, but I believe we disabled ZLIB as hal was unable to >> handle gzipped pci.id files. >> >> Assuming I am not completely wrong, perhaps we can reenable this. >> > > I think that udev still uses uncompressed ones ...

Re: [blfs-dev] bridge-utils Review

2012-03-18 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Nathan Coulson wrote: > Looks like a balance between simplicity, and useful. I noted that > there is nothing to call ip link set br0 up after the interface is > created though, so it fails to add the gateway. The bridge is set up explicitly in the bridge service: ip link set ${1} up Where ${1}

Re: [blfs-dev] bridge-utils Review

2012-03-18 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Nathan Coulson wrote: > On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Nathan Coulson wrote: >>> Looks like a balance between simplicity, and useful. I noted that >>> there is nothing to call ip link set br0 up after the interface is >>> created th

Re: [blfs-dev] Initramfs issues

2012-03-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: > Le 14/03/2012 00:34, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : >> OK, try the updated scripts I just committed when you get a chance. >> >> -- Bruce > Sorry it took some time because I had a few errors in my kernel config > (like not enabling devtmpfs, shame on

Re: [blfs-dev] bridge-utils Review

2012-03-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Nathan Coulson wrote: > On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Nathan Coulson wrote: >>> Looks like a balance between simplicity, and useful. I noted that >>> there is nothing to call ip link set br0 up after the interface is >>> created th

Re: [blfs-dev] Initramfs issues

2012-03-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: > Le 19/03/2012 20:18, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Pierre Labastie wrote: >>> Also, it might be interesting/necessary to copy the content of >>> /lib/firmware to $WDIR. >> That directory has always been empty for me. What populates it? >> I

[blfs-dev] Help wanted

2012-03-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I've been taking a look at the blfs bootscripts and note that several have not been updated for the LFS 7.0 bootscripts. Some have not been updated in a very long time: Mar 6 2008 autofs Feb 16 23:39 avahi Aug 1 2005 exim Aug 1 2005 fam- package removed Mar 20 2008 gdm Mar 20 20

Re: [blfs-dev] Help wanted

2012-03-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Nathan Coulson wrote: >> Mar 6 2008 autofs >> Feb 16 23:39 avahi >> Aug 1 2005 exim >> Aug 1 2005 fam- package removed >> Mar 20 2008 gdm >> Mar 20 2008 haldaemon - package removed >> Aug 1 2005 heimdal >> Aug 1 2005 kerberos >> Aug 1 2005 nas- package removed >> Sep

Re: [blfs-dev] Initramfs issues

2012-03-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Lemon Lime wrote: > On 03/20/12 01:23, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> So I agree that the mknod commands are not needed. I'll remove them. >> >> -- Bruce > > There are similar commands to create these nodes in LFS 6.2.1. Creating > Initial Device Nodes. Perhaps th

Re: [blfs-dev] autofs-5.0.6 update/bootscripts

2012-03-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Nathan Coulson wrote: > Right off the bat, I had a ../include/rpc_subs.h:19:21: fatal error: > rpc/rpc.h: No such file or directory > > libtirpc fixed that > > went on, but got stuck at > > make[1]: Entering directory `/mnt/data/book/blfs/12/autofs-5.0.6/lib' > gcc -O2 -Wall -D_REENTRANT -D_FILE

Re: [blfs-dev] ntpd uses /var/run/ instead of /run

2012-03-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Nathan Coulson wrote: > ntpd says it's pidfile is in /var/run, when it should be in /run. Yes, we need to change that in the /etc/ntp.conf in the book. Since we have a compatibility sysmink, it's really only needed when we update the ntpd version. It does need updating to ntp-4.2.6p5 which was

Re: [blfs-dev] ntpd uses /var/run/ instead of /run

2012-03-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Qrux wrote: > On Mar 21, 2012, at 7:41 AM, Nathan Coulson wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:26 AM, Armin K. wrote: >>> On 03/21/2012 09:33 AM, Nathan Coulson wrote: ntpd says it's pidfile is in /var/run, when it should be in /run. >>> /var/run is symlink to /run, so does it really m

Re: [blfs-dev] Configuration in GLib should be "as user root"

2012-03-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: > Hi, > > I think that the Configuration of GLib2 should be made as the root user, > because it writes to the /etc/profile.d directory. It should be mentioned > in the text, and the tag should be . OK, I'll fix that. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/li

Re: [blfs-dev] MySQL shared/static libraries

2012-03-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ragnar Thomsen wrote: > So I added Amarok2 which requires a MySQL embedded server library > (libmysqld.{a,so}). MySQL 5.5 builds a static library when passed the > -DWITH_EMBEDDED_SERVER=ON option, but Amarok2 fails to build with the > static version. MySQL 5.5 is unable to build a shared version,

[blfs-dev] Amarok-1.4.10

2012-03-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I've been trying to get Amarok-1.4.10 to build. After several hours and numerous patches to the code for gcc-4.4+, I've run into a problem that I can't really solve. It appears that it requires ruby-1.8. ruby-1.9 won't do as it appears to have changed struct RString. Amarok-1.4.10 is a music

Re: [blfs-dev] Boot order of D-Bus and netfs/network.

2012-03-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ragnar Thomsen wrote: > As mentioned in ticket #3103, D-bus starts at S20, while network > starts at S20 and netfs at S28. > > Since D-Bus is installed on /usr, it should be started after the > network/netfs scripts. AFAIK, d-bus is only needed for Xorg applications. I would think any time befo

Re: [blfs-dev] Help wanted

2012-03-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ragnar Thomsen wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Which of the above scripts/related packages should be removed from the book? > > I suggest we remove the soprano bootscript. > AFAIK it is only used by KDE4, which starts the soprano server as needed. The page has a note that it

Re: [blfs-dev] Cleaning up the ticket system.

2012-03-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ragnar Thomsen wrote: > I suggest we resolve the following ticket as wontfix: > > #2865 (3 yr old): Re-adding the news reader slrn to the book. We > already got several news readers in the book. Do we need this one? > (Besides no releases since 2008). > > As for this ticket: > > #2683 (3 yr old)

Re: [blfs-dev] Removal of additional KDE4 packages

2012-03-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ragnar Thomsen wrote: > If noone objects, I will remove the following packages from the book: > -kdegames > -kdeedu > -kdetoys > -kdeaccessibility kdegames and kdetoys are still available at http://mirrors.isc.org/pub/kde/stable/4.8.0/src/ I'd like to see those remain in the book if possible. >

Re: [blfs-dev] notification-daemon missing dep

2012-03-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: > Hi, > > It looks like notification daemon depends on libcanberra: > configure stops if libcanberra is not installed, and I have not found > any switch to disable it. Pierre, It would be preferable if you could make a ticket for these types of comments so we don't forg

Re: [blfs-dev] Removal of additional KDE4 packages

2012-03-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ragnar Thomsen wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Ragnar Thomsen wrote: >>> If noone objects, I will remove the following packages from the >>> book: -kdegames -kdeedu -kdetoys -kdeaccessibility >> kdegames and kdetoys are still available at >> http://m

Re: [blfs-dev] ntpd uses /var/run/ instead of /run

2012-03-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 01:33:31AM -0700, Nathan Coulson wrote: >> ntpd says it's pidfile is in /var/run, when it should be in /run. >> > Replying to this, because I think Nathan expressed interest in > avahi. In avahi, if you use --localstatedir=/var it will create > /var/run

Re: [blfs-dev] ntpd uses /var/run/ instead of /run

2012-03-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Nathan Coulson wrote: > What I should actually do on my own build, is break the /var/run > symlink, and have two folders. Then I can see what is actually going > where. That's your choice of course, but there are a couple of issues. We guarantee that /run is available for other boot scripts

Re: [blfs-dev] Boot order of D-Bus and netfs/network.

2012-03-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: > While it was unpopular last time, or maybe just uninteresting, it's > as good a time as any to suggest ditching the static list all > together...let the dependency info in the scripts do what It's > intended to do? Perhaps a little later. With the new tool chain packages we will

Re: [blfs-dev] ntpd uses /var/run/ instead of /run

2012-03-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Lemon Lime wrote: > On 03/24/12 17:36, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Nathan Coulson wrote: >> >>> What I should actually do on my own build, is break the /var/run >>> symlink, and have two folders. Then I can see what is actually going >>> where. >> That&#x

Re: [blfs-dev] poppler 0.14.4

2012-03-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: > It is not buildable with libpng 1.5 ... Also, 0.16 has qt3 support. See > if building with libpng 1.5 is fixed there. But if you are going to keep > KDE3 (Trinity), we could also keep GNOME2 (MATE) too, don't you say? I > say it's stupid to maintain two versions of them in the

[blfs-dev] Update to FreeType-2.4.9

2012-03-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
The book has: freetype-doc-2.4.9.tar.bz2 Download MD5 sum: 538c925059e90be23928b454c14df728 but I get: 39c0881d426db837aa6ff1856e44af86 freetype-doc-2.4.9.tar.bz2 -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscrib

Re: [blfs-dev] poppler 0.14.4

2012-03-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
baho Utot wrote: > On 03/25/2012 12:20 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Armin K. wrote: >>> It is not buildable with libpng 1.5 ... Also, 0.16 has qt3 support. See >>> if building with libpng 1.5 is fixed there. But if you are going to keep >>> KDE3 (Trinity), we coul

Re: [blfs-dev] Update to FreeType-2.4.9

2012-03-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: > On 03/25/2012 06:50 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> The book has: >> >> freetype-doc-2.4.9.tar.bz2 >> Download MD5 sum: 538c925059e90be23928b454c14df728 >> >> but I get: >> >> 39c0881d426db837aa6ff1856e44af86 freetype-doc-2.4.9.tar

Re: [blfs-dev] Packages that could be removed

2012-03-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: > > Ragnar Thomsen wrote: > >> We should consider removing the following packages from BLFS: >> >> -Qpopper: There was a discussion back in nov. 2010 and people >> seemed to agree that it should be removed. This never happened, >> though. > > We need to provide a POP3 server. D

[blfs-dev] Tabs in xml

2012-03-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Just a reminder. Do not use tab characters in the xml files. If using vim, then set .vimrc to set expandtab set tabstop=3 set shiftwidth=3 -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above inform

[blfs-dev] name conflict

2012-03-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I've been looking at a name conflict. perl and lesstif both have a man file, Shell.3 Shell (3)- run shell commands transparently within perl Shell (3)- Shell widget from X Toolkit The question is how to handle this. My best guess is to convert the lesstif version to a

Re: [blfs-dev] bit rot in nfs-server bootscript

2012-03-27 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Walter Webb wrote: > The test for kernels 2.6: > ># NFSD support only in 2.6 kernel >/bin/uname -r | /bin/grep "2.6" 2>&1 > /dev/null > > worked until kernel 3.2.6. It causes an apparently harmless error > at boot time. Changing the expression to "^2.6" fixes it. LOL. We are u

[blfs-dev] blfs tickets

2012-03-27 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I've been looking at the blfs tickets lately. I would like to congratulate the editors for fixing so many outstanding issues. Last year there were nearly 200 outstanding tickets. Right now there are 63. My personal goal is to try to close one ticket a day. I'd like to request that all editor

Re: [blfs-dev] bit rot in nfs-server bootscript

2012-03-27 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 02:43:31PM -0400, Walter Webb wrote: >> The test for kernels 2.6: >> >># NFSD support only in 2.6 kernel >>/bin/uname -r | /bin/grep "2.6" 2>&1 > /dev/null >> >> worked until kernel 3.2.6. It causes an apparently harmless error >> at boot

Re: [blfs-dev] Firefox --enable-system-cairo broken

2012-03-27 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > Hello, > Mozilla have altered the copy of Cairo that they use (to fix a bug > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=715658 ) and the effect is > that for more than a month compiling with --enable-system-cairo has > been broken ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cg

Re: [blfs-dev] blfs tickets

2012-03-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ragnar Thomsen wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> In some cases, the current tickets can be legitimately marked as >> wontfix, invalid, or overcomebyevents. >> Of course, each editor should only work on areas of interest, but use of >> the ticket system can help us all

[blfs-dev] webkit

2012-03-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andy, You committed webkitgtk-1.6.3_gcc-4.7-1.patch yesterday and removed webkit-1.6.3_gcc-4.7-1.patch. The current version of webkit is 1.6.1 and the book is looking for webkitgtk/webkitgtk-1.6.1_gcc-4.7-1.patch What's up? -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-

Re: [blfs-dev] webkit

2012-03-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:45:40 +0100 > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> Andy, >> >>You committed webkitgtk-1.6.3_gcc-4.7-1.patch yesterday and removed >> webkit-1.6.3_gcc-4.7-1.patch. >> >> The current version of webkit is 1.

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] Files in BLFS svn missing on anduin

2012-03-30 Thread Bruce Dubbs
> Missing webkit-1.8.0.tar.xz The book's md5sum is wrong. book: c476d9335419df061510d31e21175df1 download: 52b2feb0fae01e68432b547bd85e8d74 oversight? -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See t

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r9819 - trunk/BOOK/networking/netlibs

2012-03-31 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: > On 03/31/2012 12:40 PM, Andrew Benton wrote: >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:10:08 +0100 >> "Armin K." wrote: >> I don't install Gnome. I install libsoup because Webkit requires it. I >> install Webkit so the Gimp builds its help browser. Simply repeating >> "libsoup is a gnome-specif

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r9819 - trunk/BOOK/networking/netlibs

2012-03-31 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: > On 03/31/2012 07:04 PM, Andrew Benton wrote: >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 16:55:40 +0100 >> Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> >>> Easy guys. I can see both sides here, but tend to agree with Andy. If >>> a package can be used by Gimp (directly or indire

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] Files in BLFS svn missing on anduin

2012-04-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs
> Missing krb5-1.10.1-signed.tar The book has an md5sum of 95b770bdae70789f72553ea428af97aa Actual download md5sum: 43d6a2f6f4f96fbf8423732065b49f0f -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the abo

Re: [blfs-dev] pycairo and py2cairo

2012-04-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 22:02:30 +0100 > Ken Moffat wrote: > >> I've now completed my (partial) gnome build on my new machine. >> One of the purposes of this was to try using py2cairo instead of >> pycairo - I assume the name has been changed from pycairo to tell >> people tha

Re: [blfs-dev] QT fails to build with Glib 2.32

2012-04-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ragnar Thomsen wrote: > Ragnar Thomsen wrote: >> I have not been able to build Q4 with the new Glib (2.32). It fails >> consistently when building javascriptcore in qtwebkit. >> Tried with both QT 4.8.0 and the fresh QT 4.8.1. Using the -no-glib >> configure switch doesn't help either. >> I have

Re: [blfs-dev] QT fails to build with Glib 2.32

2012-04-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ragnar Thomsen wrote: > The patch from webkit fixed the glib errors, although the build of Qt > 4.8.1 fails at another error. > I am building with GCC-4.7/Glibc-2.15 and used the GCC4.7 patch for > Qt mentioned by Pierre on the blfs-devel list two days ago. > Below is output from the error. Can a

Re: [blfs-dev] QT fails to build with Glib 2.32

2012-04-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ragnar Thomsen wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> OK, I imagine JavaScriptCore is needed for konquorer. It was just a >> thought. The error looks like something identified by gcc: >> >> error: deleting object of polymorphic class type 'WebCore::Frame' which

Re: [blfs-dev] QT fails to build with Glib 2.32

2012-04-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Yes, this is from building Qt4.8.1 using GCC4.7. >> >> Configure command: >> ./configure -prefix /opt/qt-4.8.1 -release -nomake examples -nomake demos >> -system-sqlite -no-nis -no-phonon -opensource >> >> I attached a patch for

Re: [blfs-dev] QT fails to build with Glib 2.32

2012-04-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >>> Yes, this is from building Qt4.8.1 using GCC4.7. >>> >>> Configure command: >>> ./configure -prefix /opt/qt-4.8.1 -release -nomake examples -nomake >>> demos >>> -system-sqlite -no-nis -n

Re: [blfs-dev] QT fails to build with Glib 2.32

2012-04-03 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ragnar Thomsen wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Did that and it rebuilt fine with the patch. I didn't log it, >> but I saw several warnings go by, so -Werror does not seem to be set. > > Great, I will add the glib 2.32 patch for Qt to the book then. > > Did you

Re: [blfs-dev] FHS 3.0 adaptation

2012-04-03 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: > I do not agree with /usr/libexec stuff ... I'd agree if it only > installed executables there, or even better - > /usr/libexec/package/{executable1,executable2,etc} ... But no, it > installs also directories there, too which is sort of mess ... And yet > some more stuff ... S

Re: [blfs-dev] FHS 3.0 adaptation

2012-04-03 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 12:14:51AM -0500, DJ Lucas wrote: >> Any thoughts? Objections? >> >> -- DJ Lucas >> > Since so many package developers disagree with, or at least ignore, > this part of the old fhs, I'll be happy to remove the overrides and > their explanations. Sooner

Re: [blfs-dev] [resend] gdm

2012-04-03 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > - Forwarded message from Ken Moffat - > > Sent this after a very long night, but it doesn't seem to have > arrived. Trying again. > > Well, I've now fixed my mouse (cable problems) and tested gdm. > I've now got it "working" (i.e. able to use my xsession files for

Re: [blfs-dev] FHS 3.0 adaptation

2012-04-03 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 10:45:23AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Ken Moffat wrote: >>> On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 12:14:51AM -0500, DJ Lucas wrote: >>>> Any thoughts? Objections? >>>> >>>> -- DJ Lucas >>>> >&

Re: [blfs-dev] [resend] gdm

2012-04-03 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: > Great. And then everyone told me how /etc/gnome and prefix other than > /usr can work. Well, yes they can. But there is a lot of additional > configuration that needs to be done, and also I still haven't found a > way to make policykit rules installed somewhere else than in /u

Re: [blfs-dev] [resend] gdm

2012-04-03 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: > On 04/03/2012 06:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Armin K. wrote: >> >>> Great. And then everyone told me how /etc/gnome and prefix other than >>> /usr can work. Well, yes they can. But there is a lot of additional >>> configuration that

Re: [blfs-dev] [resend] gdm

2012-04-03 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: > On 04/03/2012 07:28 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Armin K. wrote: >>> On 04/03/2012 06:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >>>> Armin K. wrote: >>>> >>>>> Great. And then everyone told me how /etc/gnome and prefix other than >&

Re: [blfs-dev] about r9840, r9802 ...

2012-04-03 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Denis Mugnier wrote: > Hi, > > I'm not sure you know, butthe french translation team is currently > composed of 2 contributors(Jean-Philippe Mengual and I). > > We try to provide in french language the svn blfs book with the > leastpossible lag from the english version. Now, our daily work is s

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