Re: [blfs-dev] KDM crashing, KDE runs!
On 12/04/2012 09:53 AM, Ragnar Thomsen wrote: > On Monday 03 December 2012 15:21:20 Baho Utot wrote: >> I have found out that KDM does indeed need its own usr/group. >> I now have kdm working as I can now login and boot the machine to run >> level 5 from inittab and it works. > I don't have a separate user/group for KDM, and it's working fine. This is what I have and it will work, if I remove this it will fail groupadd -g 135 kdm &>/dev/null useradd -u 135 -g kdm -d /var/lib/kdm -s /bin/false -r -M kdm &>/dev/null chown -R 135:135 var/lib/kdm &>/dev/null >> I have a Console kit error dialog on login saying Warning: Cannot open >> ConsoleKit session: Unable to execute program >> /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper: Success >> >> This I have traced to dbus not started, but I have dbus starting run the >> init scripts at boot through the blfs-bootscripts. >> >> Also in the kdm log it has klauncher kdemain: No DBUS session-bus found. >> Check if you have started the DBUS server. >> >> I know that dbus is indeed started but how does one check to see if a >> dbus session exists? >> >> This is what I think this problem resolves to. >> If anyone has a link to all this dbus stuff I would like to get that so >> I can read up on dbus. > KDM starts a consolekit session automatically, if consolekit was installed > when building kde-workspace. I think your error is related to d-bus. The d-bus > sytem-wide bus should be started in your bootscripts and will be running as > user messagebus. The d-bus session bus can be start in various ways and will > be running as the logged in user. I use a method derived from this link for > starting the session bus: > http://www.howtoforge.com/dbus_kde_integration > which I found works well and results in a single d-bus session process. > > Basically, kdm launches this script when starting a session: > $KDE_PREFIX/share/config/kdm/Xstartup > > And this script when stopping a session: > $KDE_PREFIX/share/config/kdm/Xreset > > So these can be used to start/stop d-bus. Ok I will look at this to see what I have there. Thanks -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-dev] KDM crashing, KDE runs!
On Monday 03 December 2012 15:21:20 Baho Utot wrote: > I have found out that KDM does indeed need its own usr/group. > I now have kdm working as I can now login and boot the machine to run > level 5 from inittab and it works. I don't have a separate user/group for KDM, and it's working fine. > I have a Console kit error dialog on login saying Warning: Cannot open > ConsoleKit session: Unable to execute program > /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper: Success > > This I have traced to dbus not started, but I have dbus starting run the > init scripts at boot through the blfs-bootscripts. > > Also in the kdm log it has klauncher kdemain: No DBUS session-bus found. > Check if you have started the DBUS server. > > I know that dbus is indeed started but how does one check to see if a > dbus session exists? > > This is what I think this problem resolves to. > If anyone has a link to all this dbus stuff I would like to get that so > I can read up on dbus. KDM starts a consolekit session automatically, if consolekit was installed when building kde-workspace. I think your error is related to d-bus. The d-bus sytem-wide bus should be started in your bootscripts and will be running as user messagebus. The d-bus session bus can be start in various ways and will be running as the logged in user. I use a method derived from this link for starting the session bus: http://www.howtoforge.com/dbus_kde_integration which I found works well and results in a single d-bus session process. Basically, kdm launches this script when starting a session: $KDE_PREFIX/share/config/kdm/Xstartup And this script when stopping a session: $KDE_PREFIX/share/config/kdm/Xreset So these can be used to start/stop d-bus. > Also I heard but have not been able to confirm that ConsoleKit is not > required anymore as PolicyKit has all the ConsoleKit stuff. Can anyone > confirm this? As Armin stated, if you do not use systemd, you need consolekit for kde. -Ragnar- -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-dev] KDM crashing, KDE runs!
On 12/03/2012 03:36 PM, Armin K. wrote: > On 12/03/2012 09:21 PM, Baho Utot wrote: >> I did also have kde installed to /usr. I have used prefix=/usr for all >> packages. >> >> I have found out that KDM does indeed need its own usr/group. >> I now have kdm working as I can now login and boot the machine to run >> level 5 from inittab and it works. >> >> I have a Console kit error dialog on login saying Warning: Cannot open >> ConsoleKit session: Unable to execute program >> /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper: Success >> > Have you installed D-Bus via DESTDIR method? Yes, I will have a looked at the permissions and changed them as below and it now works. The usb drive also now works. I still have some permissions issues to fix, they are in the daemon.log, but what I have now works very well so I will put those on the back burner as I need to get the additional packages built for kde. > > If so, launch-helper needs to be root:messagebus owned and needs to have > permissions 4754 > > chown root:messagebus /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper > chmod 4754 /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper > >> This I have traced to dbus not started, but I have dbus starting run the >> init scripts at boot through the blfs-bootscripts. >> >> Also in the kdm log it has klauncher kdemain: No DBUS session-bus found. >> Check if you have started the DBUS server. >> >> I know that dbus is indeed started but how does one check to see if a >> dbus session exists? >> > This might be the problem with helper permissions as described above. > >> This is what I think this problem resolves to. >> If anyone has a link to all this dbus stuff I would like to get that so >> I can read up on dbus. >> >> Also I heard but have not been able to confirm that ConsoleKit is not >> required anymore as PolicyKit has all the ConsoleKit stuff. Can anyone >> confirm this? >> > That's true only if you are using systemd. > Ok Thank you very much for helping me to resolve some of my issues -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-dev] KDM crashing, KDE runs!
On 12/03/2012 09:21 PM, Baho Utot wrote: > > I did also have kde installed to /usr. I have used prefix=/usr for all > packages. > > I have found out that KDM does indeed need its own usr/group. > I now have kdm working as I can now login and boot the machine to run > level 5 from inittab and it works. > > I have a Console kit error dialog on login saying Warning: Cannot open > ConsoleKit session: Unable to execute program > /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper: Success > Have you installed D-Bus via DESTDIR method? If so, launch-helper needs to be root:messagebus owned and needs to have permissions 4754 chown root:messagebus /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper chmod 4754 /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper > This I have traced to dbus not started, but I have dbus starting run the > init scripts at boot through the blfs-bootscripts. > > Also in the kdm log it has klauncher kdemain: No DBUS session-bus found. > Check if you have started the DBUS server. > > I know that dbus is indeed started but how does one check to see if a > dbus session exists? > This might be the problem with helper permissions as described above. > This is what I think this problem resolves to. > If anyone has a link to all this dbus stuff I would like to get that so > I can read up on dbus. > > Also I heard but have not been able to confirm that ConsoleKit is not > required anymore as PolicyKit has all the ConsoleKit stuff. Can anyone > confirm this? > That's true only if you are using systemd. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-dev] KDM crashing, KDE runs!
On 12/03/2012 10:42 AM, Armin K. wrote: > On 12/03/2012 02:31 PM, Baho Utot wrote: >> [putolin] >> Are you talking about wicd? >> > No, it is just another applet, but works with network manager 0.9.x > > ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/networkmanagement/0.9.0.5/src/ > > I think that instructions on "Further KDE Packages" should do the trick. Ok I will have a look there > > I also have /var/log/kdm.log, but it does not contain anything useful. > I looked at Archlinux pkgbuild and install files and KDM seems to > require seperate user, just like GDM. This did the trick for me > groupadd -g 37 kdm useradd -u 37 -g kdm -d /var/lib/kdm -s /bin/false > kdm install -d -o kdm -g kdm /var/lib/kdm I have this in my post > install script (not any package manager, just plain cp -r and such). > If this doesn't solve problem for you, then you can hope that Ragnar > will show up and try to help you because he wrote KDE instructions and > maintains them in BLFS. I installed mine differently, ie everything > into /usr, no env vars, no /etc/kde sysconf dir and such ... I did also have kde installed to /usr. I have used prefix=/usr for all packages. I have found out that KDM does indeed need its own usr/group. I now have kdm working as I can now login and boot the machine to run level 5 from inittab and it works. I have a Console kit error dialog on login saying Warning: Cannot open ConsoleKit session: Unable to execute program /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper: Success This I have traced to dbus not started, but I have dbus starting run the init scripts at boot through the blfs-bootscripts. Also in the kdm log it has klauncher kdemain: No DBUS session-bus found. Check if you have started the DBUS server. I know that dbus is indeed started but how does one check to see if a dbus session exists? This is what I think this problem resolves to. If anyone has a link to all this dbus stuff I would like to get that so I can read up on dbus. Also I heard but have not been able to confirm that ConsoleKit is not required anymore as PolicyKit has all the ConsoleKit stuff. Can anyone confirm this? -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-dev] KDM crashing, KDE runs!
On 12/03/2012 02:31 PM, Baho Utot wrote: > On 12/03/2012 02:49 AM, Armin K. wrote: > > [putolin] > >> There is seperate applet for that. I wouldn't recommend downgrading >> networkmanager. > > Are you talking about wicd? > No, it is just another applet, but works with network manager 0.9.x ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/networkmanagement/0.9.0.5/src/ I think that instructions on "Further KDE Packages" should do the trick. >>> KDM crashes and this is my concern. Currently I am starting KDE from a >>> user login followed the book on setting up .xinitrc >>> and then doing a startx, which works well. Trying to start KDM from >>> root login on tty1 it tries to start as the screen flashes like xorg is >>> starting but then something goes south. I don't have strace built just >>> yet so I could not attempt that. >>> >>> Before I get down and dirty looking into KDM crashing does any one have >>> any pointers or easy things to check? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >> Do you have PAM installed? > > No I don't do pam > > I have PAM installed and it needs 2 config files. I guess it isn't case for you. I also have /var/log/kdm.log, but it does not contain anything useful. I looked at Archlinux pkgbuild and install files and KDM seems to require seperate user, just like GDM. This did the trick for me groupadd -g 37 kdm useradd -u 37 -g kdm -d /var/lib/kdm -s /bin/false kdm install -d -o kdm -g kdm /var/lib/kdm I have this in my post install script (not any package manager, just plain cp -r and such). If this doesn't solve problem for you, then you can hope that Ragnar will show up and try to help you because he wrote KDE instructions and maintains them in BLFS. I installed mine differently, ie everything into /usr, no env vars, no /etc/kde sysconf dir and such ... -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-dev] KDM crashing, KDE runs!
On 12/03/2012 02:49 AM, Armin K. wrote: [putolin] > There is seperate applet for that. I wouldn't recommend downgrading > networkmanager. Are you talking about wicd? >> KDM crashes and this is my concern. Currently I am starting KDE from a >> user login followed the book on setting up .xinitrc >> and then doing a startx, which works well. Trying to start KDM from >> root login on tty1 it tries to start as the screen flashes like xorg is >> starting but then something goes south. I don't have strace built just >> yet so I could not attempt that. >> >> Before I get down and dirty looking into KDM crashing does any one have >> any pointers or easy things to check? >> >> Thanks >> > Do you have PAM installed? No I don't do pam -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-dev] KDM crashing, KDE runs!
On 12/03/2012 03:14 AM, Baho Utot wrote:
> I have just completed KDE 4.9.1 and it generally works well.
> I am using Beyond Linux® From Scratch - Version 2012-09-25, which I will
> update to the latest after I complete this desktop build. The
> configuration went well and have the sound working. I have not built
> the KDE Additional Packages
>
> There is the following few problems to work out...
>
> DVD drive doesn't show up in /dev, this may be due to the kernel as I am
> using the default kernel as I used make defconfig to configure it when I
> build LFS 7.2. I don't know if the kernel configuration is correct, I
> will make a custom kernel for this machine after I get the rest of KDE
> built. So I will visit this later.
>
> USB drives also don't show up in the device notifier although usb drives
> do show up in /dev and I can mount them using root. This I would like
> to get working but it is not real high on the list of things to get working.
>
> The NetworkManager in this version of the book causes the following
> problem when configuring/building Kde-workspace 4.9.1...
>
> -- Sorry, networkmanager-0.7 will not be built since your NetworkManager
> version (0.9.6.0) is not currently supported
> -- Will build networkmanager_fake-0.9
>
> Anyone know what version of NetworkManager works?
> I tried to dig through the cmake files but I have not found where the
> version of NetworkManager is tested for. I did a grep on the source but
> it returned too much hay in which to find the needle. So I did a Google
> and it returned
>
>set(HAVE_NETWORKMANAGER FALSE)
> if(NETWORKMANAGER_FOUND)
> if(${NETWORKMANAGER_VERSION} VERSION_GREATER "0.6." AND
>${NETWORKMANAGER_VERSION} VERSION_LESS "0.8.1001")
> message(STATUS "Will build networkmanager-0.7")
> set(HAVE_NETWORKMANAGER TRUE)
> add_subdirectory(networkmanager-0.7)
> else()
> message(STATUS "Sorry, networkmanager-0.7 will not be built since
> your NetworkManager version (${NETWORKMANAGER_VERSION}) is not currently
> supported")
> if (${NETWORKMANAGER_VERSION} VERSION_GREATER "0.8.999")
> message(STATUS "Will build networkmanager_fake-0.9")
> set(HAVE_NETWORKMANAGER TRUE)
> add_subdirectory(networkmanager_fake-0.9)
> endif ()
> endif()
> endif (NETWORKMANAGER_FOUND)
> macro_log_feature(HAVE_NETWORKMANAGER "NetworkManager" "A daemon for
> user controlled networking"
> "http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager"; FALSE "0.7.0" "Needed for
> building Network Management support in Solid. Max version supported is
> 0.8.10"
> So it looks like version > 6.9 and < 8.10 is needed not what is in the book.
>
There is seperate applet for that. I wouldn't recommend downgrading
networkmanager.
> KDM crashes and this is my concern. Currently I am starting KDE from a
> user login followed the book on setting up .xinitrc
> and then doing a startx, which works well. Trying to start KDM from
> root login on tty1 it tries to start as the screen flashes like xorg is
> starting but then something goes south. I don't have strace built just
> yet so I could not attempt that.
>
> Before I get down and dirty looking into KDM crashing does any one have
> any pointers or easy things to check?
>
> Thanks
>
Do you have PAM installed?
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