[blfs-support] Slightly OT: General Linux List

2018-05-09 Thread Rob
There is a ##linux channel on Freenode, but it gets rather heavy traffic, and sometimes questions get lost in the bustle. Is there a mailing list for general linux discussion/support? -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html

[blfs-support] A Basic Question about LVM

2018-04-27 Thread Rob
Do all disks need to be empty before creating an LVM structure? I have 9 disks, 5 of which are loaded with data. I'd like to combine them all together to make one array, being able to expand as needed. But before I do, should I empty all the disks first? --

[blfs-support] A Question on Package Ordering

2018-02-28 Thread Rob
How come packages in BLFS are not listed in order of precedence, the way they are in LFS? Rather, they are listed in alphabetical order in each section. Wouldn't it make more sense to list packages in order as they are required by subsequent packages? --

Re: [blfs-support] :Re: Problem with setting up sound in BLFS-8.0

2017-03-26 Thread Rob
Ken Moffat wrote: > Also, if you need that ~/.asoundrc then analogue sound is probably > quiet - maybe not a problem for you, but it is for me, I have to > turn the amplifier up to 11 - at least I use headphones, so it's > only me, and not my neighbours, who gets hurt if

Re: [blfs-support] Problem with setting up sound in BLFS-8.0

2017-03-26 Thread Rob
Hazel Russman wrote: > That's already included in the config menu as a compulsory module. Kernel > Help doesn't say what the module is called but I'm guessing it's > snd_hda_codec. What does "aplay -l" show? How about "speaker-test" What happens if you plug in a

[blfs-support] systemctl reload fails on a service file

2016-10-20 Thread Rob
I made a service file to load the calibre-server program. When I made changes to the file and tried systemctl reload calibre , however, it said: Failed to reload calibre.service: Job type reload is not applicable for unit calibre.service. See system logs and 'systemctl status calibre.service' for

[blfs-support] Complete Gnome Desktop

2016-10-08 Thread Rob
In the BLFS book, it says: Quote: The objective of this section is not to build a GNOME desktop, because it depends on Systemd, which BLFS doesn't support. Rather, it provides packages required for some platform independent GNOME applications to build and run properly under any Window Manager

Re: [blfs-support] Unique-3.0

2016-10-08 Thread Rob
Ken Moffat wrote: > The 3.0 suggests this might be a gtk+-3 version of mate. That's right. I tried GTK-2 and the configure script whined a lot about missing packages, so I appended --with-gtk=3.0 to most of the components. That caused most of the whining to go away. >

[blfs-support] Unique-3.0

2016-10-08 Thread Rob
What I am doing is not strictly part of BLFS, but I hope I can get some help anyway. I promise not to ask too many slightly OT questions like this here. I am building mate, caja file manager. It wants a package called unique-3.0 In BLFS, we have a package called libunique-1.1.6 Obviously the

Re: [blfs-support] My (B)LFS script

2016-10-07 Thread Rob
Peng HG wrote: > I've put up my installation script at https://github.com/NomadHK/salt May I suggest using a wget-list file instead of putting all the files into the script? This would make the script a lot smaller to go through. --

Re: [blfs-support] Failed to init libxfconf: Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11

2016-10-07 Thread Rob
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > We recently mad a change to the systemd book to omit a change to the > startx script. If you did: > sed -e '/$serverargs $vtarg/ s/serverargs/: #&/' -i startx.cpp > You can undo it by editing /opt/xorg/bin/startx (or /usr/bin/xtartx if you >

[blfs-support] Failed to init libxfconf: Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11

2016-10-07 Thread Rob
BLFS-7.10 Systemd XFCE desktop The error in the subject is what I get when I try running xfconf-query for anything. contents of ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log cd ~/.local/share/xorg grep EE Xorg.0.log [132079.009] (EE) systemd-logind: failed to get session: PID 15254 does not belong to any known

Re: [blfs-support] gsettings reporting errors

2016-10-06 Thread Rob
lf...@cruziero.com (akhiezer) wrote: > Did you now go back and check and verify (incl double-checks) that it _is_ > installed: e.g. does '/usr/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so' exist; and does > '/usr/lib/gio/modules/libgioremote-volume-monitor.so' exist. All the files that it whined about do

[blfs-support] Possibly a Very Large Mistake

2016-10-05 Thread Rob
Uh oh. I realized, after I had finished building my XFCE and a ton of depends, that I never rebuilt DBus in BLFS. Am I going to have to rebuild everything all over again? -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See

[blfs-support] Help with Libsidplay

2016-10-02 Thread Rob
This package was listed as an optional dependency for gst-plugins-ugly-1.8.3 , and is also a dependency for mpd (music player daemon.) However, when I went to install it, I got a ton of errors about stuff "not being declared in this scope." A bunch of numerical stuff, it lookes like. Buffers and

[blfs-support] Udisks Compilation Errors

2016-10-01 Thread Rob
BLFS-7.10 Systemd When trying to install Udisks, this happens: # # # ./configure --prefix=/usr\ --sysconfdir=/etc\ --localstatedir=/var --disable-man-pages \ --disable-lvm2 make Truncated output CC udisks_helper_drive_detach-job-drive-detach.o

Re: [blfs-support] Error Installing Xfconf-4.12.0

2016-09-25 Thread Rob
Ken Moffat wrote: > Oh, but you *have* seen that error before : http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/blfs-support/2016-February/077428.html Yes, I remembered that before I sent the original message. Grin. Too many packages between then and now, I guess. > There

[blfs-support] Error Installing Xfconf-4.12.0

2016-09-25 Thread Rob
I installed the perl Glib module. It wanted a few other things, like ExtUtils::Depends and ExtUtils::PkgConfig but all seemed to go okay. Then, I went to compile Xfconf and got this: top_builddir=".." /usr/bin/perl Makefile.PL PREFIX="/usr" Loaded 3 xs files from xs_files Only one of PREFIX or

[blfs-support] Gnome Docking Library

2016-09-25 Thread Rob
I am attempting to install Adwaita Icon Theme and one of the dependencies is Inkscape-0.91 with GTK 3; and one of its dependencies is the Gnome-Docking Library. The link in the book points to a top level directory: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/gdl/ which version should I install from

Re: [blfs-support] startx failes to work

2016-09-24 Thread Rob
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Are the service files really that much easier? Look at the LFS scripts. A typical file is a simple bash script about a page long. Half of that is comments. Admins are used to reading bash scripts. Reading these are comfortable and easy to

Re: [blfs-support] startx failes to work

2016-09-24 Thread Rob
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I agree. That's because systemd is stupid. They think everyone wants to > run multiple X sessions on a system so they have this 'seats' thing. They > have this penchant for making Linux harder to understand and use. > Think about it. What does

Re: [blfs-support] startx failes to work

2016-09-24 Thread Rob
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Make sure the PATH is set properly so xauth is found. On debugging > technique is to edit /opt/xorg/bin/startx. At the bottom is the line: > xinit "$client" $clientargs -- "$server" $display $serverargs > copy that line and on the first copy add

Re: [blfs-support] startx failes to work

2016-09-24 Thread Rob
Thanos Baloukas wrote: > Please disregard what I said about systemd setting the tty variable, > it's not true. Does startx work if you specify the vt number? the startx command said that -vt was an unrecognized option. Putting a line in ~/.xserverrc didn't work either; it

Re: [blfs-support] startx failes to work

2016-09-24 Thread Rob
Thanos Baloukas wrote: > That possibly happens because Xorg wants to start on tty0 > while you login on another tty. If systemd is compiled with > pam it sets the XDG_VTNR var to the tty number the login occurs, > otherwise I think sets tty var to /dev/ttyn Something else I

[blfs-support] startx failes to work

2016-09-23 Thread Rob
BLFS-7.10 Systemd We're now in the section of Chapter 24 called Testing Xorg When I tried running startx I got a lot of messages, but it basically said at the end: Fatal server error: (EE) parse_vt_settings: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (Permission denied) I thought adding my normal user to the video

[blfs-support] Making Dmesg Options Persistent

2016-09-18 Thread Rob
Post LFS-7.10 Systemd It seems default for dmesg is to yammer loudly onto the console. This is not desirable. For example, whenever you add a new USB device you are spammed like crazy with device ID, vendor, name and so on. The switch I wish to use to turn this off is dmesg -n 1 That will stop

[blfs-support] Alsa HTTP Links Broken

2016-09-11 Thread Rob
The http URLs given for the alsa programs do not work. Suggest removing them. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

[blfs-support] A question on Desktops

2016-08-20 Thread Rob
One of the up and coming desktops is Mate. It is a Gnome 2 port with modern functionality, so the page says. Any plans on including it in BLFS? -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information

[blfs-support] Switching to Upstart

2016-02-08 Thread Rob
I've been looking at some different startup control methodoligies. Basically between systemd and upstart. I like upstart because frankly it looks a lot simpler and neater than systemd. I'm well into blfs, however, and converting all my services to upstart jobs seems rather daunting. Is there a

[blfs-support] libxfce4ui-4.12.1 not Seeing GTK-3

2016-02-03 Thread Rob
Working with BLFS 7.8. I gave up on trying to fix the perl bindings in xfconf, so did --disable-perl-bindings with ./configure. Now, i'm trying to install libxfce4ui-4.12.1. it's whining about missing gtk-2.0, but I have gtk-3 installed. shouldn't it be finding that? I double checked that

Re: [blfs-support] libxfce4ui-4.12.1 not Seeing GTK-3

2016-02-03 Thread Rob
Bruce Dubbs wrote: There is an error in the 7.8 book concerning the dependencies for libxfce4ui. gtk+2 is required. libxfce4ui does not support gtk+3. Can I just install gtk+2, or must I uninstall gtk+3 first? --

[blfs-support] gtk+-3.16.6 CompilationErrors

2016-02-02 Thread Rob
BLFS 7.8, gtk+-3.16.6 I decided to go ahead and put things in regular /usr. Once I get the desktop going, I can then try rearranging paths, once I know a little more what i'm doing. When running make, this pops up: /usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixdata.h:107:10: note: declared

[blfs-support] xfconf-4.12.0 CompilationErrors

2016-02-02 Thread Rob
BLFS 7.8 and xfconf-4.12.0 As the root user, I installed the perl modules this package wants. Those have scrolled beyond my buffer so I can't remember xactly what those were. ./configure -q --prefix=/usr make top_builddir=".." /usr/bin/perl Makefile.PL PREFIX="/usr" Loaded 3 xs files from

Re: [blfs-support] gdk-pixbuf-2.31.7 Says no X-11

2016-02-02 Thread Rob
Bruce Dubbs wrote: That shoul dnot be needed. There should not be any files installed in /opt/usr. Make sure that $XORG_PREFIX is defined when installing as the root user. If you are using sudo, use the -E switch (sudo -E command ..) to retain your environment when

[blfs-support] gdk-pixbuf-2.31.7 Says no X-11

2016-02-02 Thread Rob
This is relevant to blfs 7.8 First, I am installing my xorg and desktop into /opt. So I created the xorg.sh under profile.d as per the BLFS book instructions. I also made a desktop.sh file in there. I can paste it in here if necessary, but it's basically the same as xorg.sh, adding /opt/usr,

Re: [blfs-support] gobject-introspection/Glib mismatch

2016-02-01 Thread Rob
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: What are the relevant version? BLFS? gobject-introspection? This is BLFS 7.8. gobject-introspection-1.44.0 glib-2.42.1 -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe:

Re: [blfs-support] gobject-introspection/Glib mismatch

2016-02-01 Thread Rob
Bruce Dubbs wrote: blfs-7.8 uses GLib-2.44.1 Oh wow. How on earth did I get that? Let me try installing glib-2.44.1 and see what happens then. Glib was a few days ago--I think I installed it to get irssi running--so I can't remember where I found that version. --

[blfs-support] gobject-introspection/Glib mismatch

2016-02-01 Thread Rob
When I went to install this package, ./configure whined: configure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.44.0) were not met: Requested 'glib-2.0 >= 2.44.0' but version of GLib is 2.42.1 Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you installed software in a

[blfs-support] xcursor-themes: unable to find libX11.so.6

2016-01-31 Thread Rob
Here we are, trying to install xcursor-themes. For refreshers, I have: [asteriskk@l-bean:xcursor-themes-1.0.1$ echo $XORG_PREFIX /opt/X [asteriskk@l-bean:xcursor-themes-1.0.1$ echo $XORG_CONFIG --prefix=/opt/X --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --disable-static I ran: ./configure -q

Re: [blfs-support] xcursor-themes: unable to find libX11.so.6

2016-01-31 Thread Rob
Bruce Dubbs wrote: What is the content of /etc/ld.so.conf? Try running ldconfig. Here's /etc/ld.so.conf again: /usr/local/lib /opt/lib include /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf /lib /opt/X/lib ldconfig said: ldconfig: /usr/lib/libdotconf-1.0.so.0 is not a symbolic link --

Re: [blfs-support] xcursor-themes: unable to find libX11.so.6

2016-01-31 Thread Rob
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Did you try to build again? ldconfig updates /etc/ls/so.cache and the ld command should then find libX11.so.6. Yes, that fixed it. Everything runs as expected now. I put X (and I'll be putting the desktop there too) under /opt in case I just want to

[blfs-support] Adusting libdrm2.4.64 to see util-macros

2016-01-31 Thread Rob
Today I started the rather daunting task of building Xorg and a desktop. I decided to put Xorg in /opt/X and adjusted the variables as per the BLFS book instructions, like so: [asteriskk@l-bean:~$ echo $XORG_PREFIX /opt/X [asteriskk@l-bean:~$ echo $XORG_CONFIG --prefix=/opt/X --sysconfdir=/etc