Re: Yum!

2005-09-06 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:36 PM Tuesday 9/6/2005, Julia Thompson wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 09:30 PM Tuesday 9/6/2005, Julia Thompson wrote: William T Goodall wrote: http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1891072005 "THE United States has asked the European Union and NATO for emergency assistance for the

"Scary"

2005-09-06 Thread The Fool
" What I'm hearing which is sort of scary is that they all want to stay in Texas. Everybody is so overhwlemed by the hospitality. And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway so this (chuckle)--this is working very well for them. " --Barbra Bush Sometime

FEMA

2005-09-06 Thread The Fool
<> Disaster used as political payoff New York Daily News Already under fire for its woeful response to Hurricane Katrina, the federal disaster agency appears to have turned hurricane relief donations into a political payoff - until it w

Re: The Doom That Came To N'Warlins - II

2005-09-06 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Sep 6, 2005, at 7:24 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: "Warren Ockrassa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 10:12 PM Subject: Re: The Doom That Came To N'Warlins - II The suffering of 20K peop

Re: Yum!

2005-09-06 Thread Julia Thompson
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 09:30 PM Tuesday 9/6/2005, Julia Thompson wrote: William T Goodall wrote: http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1891072005 "THE United States has asked the European Union and NATO for emergency assistance for the victims of Hurricane Katrina as salvage efforts i

Re: The Doom That Came To N'Warlins - II

2005-09-06 Thread Julia Thompson
Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 9:24 PM Subject: Re: The Doom That Came To N'Warlins - II And that *doesn't* count the people who had the resources to get out on their own

Re: The Doom That Came To N'Warlins - II

2005-09-06 Thread Julia Thompson
Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 4:32 PM Subject: Re: The Doom That Came To N'Warlins - II But you're not on LOCAL mailing lists that have 20 messages a day telling us, "He

Re: Yum!

2005-09-06 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 09:30 PM Tuesday 9/6/2005, Julia Thompson wrote: William T Goodall wrote: http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1891072005 "THE United States has asked the European Union and NATO for emergency assistance for the victims of Hurricane Katrina as salvage efforts in New Orleans and other cit

Re: Levees vs. Flood Walls vs. Understanding

2005-09-06 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 6, 2005, at 7:07 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: It sucks to gain education and edification this way, but I suppose it is better than being clueless as to what one is viewing. Like "War is the means by which Americans learn geography." Toggling back and forth between the Hybrid view and t

Re: Yum!

2005-09-06 Thread Julia Thompson
William T Goodall wrote: http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1891072005 "THE United States has asked the European Union and NATO for emergency assistance for the victims of Hurricane Katrina as salvage efforts in New Orleans and other cities begin to move from rescuing the living to reco

Re: The Doom That Came To N'Warlins - II

2005-09-06 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 9:24 PM Subject: Re: The Doom That Came To N'Warlins - II > And that *doesn't* count the people who had the resources to get out on > their own sooner, but who ar

Re: The Doom That Came To N'Warlins - II

2005-09-06 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: "Warren Ockrassa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 10:12 PM Subject: Re: The Doom That Came To N'Warlins - II The suffering of 20K people is awful. No argument there. But the long-term

Re: The Doom That Came To N'Warlins - II

2005-09-06 Thread Julia Thompson
Dan Minette wrote: I'm surprised we haven't heard the Aaron Neville singing "Louisiana 1927" as background music on CNN during the coverage. It's going through my head. It doesn't fit exactly, but still: I may have heard him using this in a radio ad appealing to people to send money to which

Re: And now for something completely different …

2005-09-06 Thread Julia Thompson
Warren Ockrassa wrote: Just caught the latest Burger King ad featuring a return of "Dr. Angus". Am I the only one who finds this guy so creepy that, even if I were a practicing carnivore, I'd refuse to buy the product he advertises? I mean, the last thing I want to do is identify in any way wi

Re: The Doom That Came To N'Warlins - II

2005-09-06 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 4:32 PM Subject: Re: The Doom That Came To N'Warlins - II > > But you're not on LOCAL mailing lists that have 20 messages a day > telling us, "Hey, I went to vol

Re: Disturbing report

2005-09-06 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Ronn!Blankenship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 12:10 PM Subject: Re: Disturbing report > At 10:50 AM Tuesday 9/6/2005, Dan Minette wrote: > >A friend of ours who works at a local clinic (just north of Houst

Re: And now for something completely differen t…

2005-09-06 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 6, 2005, at 6:35 PM, Max Battcher wrote: Warren Ockrassa wrote: Who the heck is doing their ad work now? I shudder to think what kind of childhood must have fed into these "creative" ideas. Between that and the shrieking mutants Quizno's was using a while back, all I can imagine is

Re: Levees vs. Flood Walls vs. Understanding

2005-09-06 Thread Robert Seeberger
Dave Land wrote: > On Sep 6, 2005, at 4:09 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: > >> There is a bit of misinformation that is being spread around. The >> actual levees held and have not been a problem. What everyone is >> seeing on TV is a break in a canal wall and that is not a levee. >> There is a report

Re: And now for something completely different …

2005-09-06 Thread Max Battcher
Warren Ockrassa wrote: Who the heck is doing their ad work now? I shudder to think what kind of childhood must have fed into these "creative" ideas. Between that and the shrieking mutants Quizno's was using a while back, all I can imagine is that the current edgy idea on Mad Ave is "Freak 'em o

Re: Sources of Drug Innovation

2005-09-06 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Deborah Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Sources of Drug Innovation > Just replying to one point at this time (more later)- > > > Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >Fr

Levees vs. Flood Walls vs. Understanding

2005-09-06 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 6, 2005, at 4:09 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: There is a bit of misinformation that is being spread around. The actual levees held and have not been a problem. What everyone is seeing on TV is a break in a canal wall and that is not a levee. There is a report I saw that relates an eyewitne

Does the average American understand "poor?"

2005-09-06 Thread Nick Arnett
So, I'm reading the discussion of why some people didn't evacuate New Orleans. I find myself wondering if a lot of people in this country just don't realize how desperately poor some of us are. It seems clear that lots of the folks in charge don't have a clue that you can't just announce, "Ever

Re: Olbermann

2005-09-06 Thread Deborah Harrell
> Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dan Minette wrote: > > Going to the National Hurricane Center Archives, > we see that that, 3 > > days before it hit, it was a minimal hurricane (75 > mph winds) that > > was suppose to curve soon and hit the Florida > Panhandle. It was > > forcas

Re: Olbermann

2005-09-06 Thread Robert Seeberger
Robert Seeberger wrote: > Horn, John wrote: >>> Behalf Of Robert Seeberger >>> >>> There is a bit of misinformation that is being spread around. The >>> actual levees held and have not been a problem. What everyone is >>> seeing on TV is a break in a canal wall and that is not a levee. >>> There is

Re: On Bush and Brown

2005-09-06 Thread Deborah Harrell
> William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quoted: > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1764115,00.html > Earth to Bush: the breaching of the levees had been > foreseen for > decades. If anyone wanted evidence that this > president was completely > divorced from reality, that stateme

Re: Olbermann

2005-09-06 Thread Robert Seeberger
Horn, John wrote: >> Behalf Of Robert Seeberger >> >> There is a bit of misinformation that is being spread around. The >> actual levees held and have not been a problem. What everyone is >> seeing on TV is a break in a canal wall and that is not a levee. >> There is a report I saw that relates an

Re: Olbermann

2005-09-06 Thread Robert Seeberger
Warren Ockrassa wrote: > On Sep 6, 2005, at 11:53 AM, Dan Minette wrote: > >> Going to the National Hurricane Center Archives, we see that that, >> 3 >> days >> before it hit, it was a minimal hurricane (75 mph winds) that was >> suppose >> to curve soon and hit the Florida Panhandle. > > Which, I

Re: Sources of Drug Innovation

2005-09-06 Thread Deborah Harrell
Just replying to one point at this time (more later)- > Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >From: "Deborah Harrell" > > > > You are not taking into account the advances made > > > >by universities and publicly-funded institutes. > > > > For-profit drug companies *are not* the only or >

RE: Olbermann

2005-09-06 Thread Horn, John
> Behalf Of Robert Seeberger > > There is a bit of misinformation that is being spread around. The > actual levees held and have not been a problem. What everyone is > seeing on TV is a break in a canal wall and that is not a levee. > There is a report I saw that relates an eyewitness who claims

Re: Olbermann

2005-09-06 Thread Robert Seeberger
Dan Minette wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Alberto Monteiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 12:26 PM > Subject: Re: Olbermann > > >> Dave Land wrote: >>> >>> These are leaders who defined national security in terms of 9/11. >>>

Re: Olbermann

2005-09-06 Thread Robert Seeberger
Dave Land wrote: > On Sep 6, 2005, at 10:26 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: > >> Dave Land wrote: >> >>> These are leaders who defined national security in terms of 9/11. >>> The question is whether we will insist that the blighters we put >>> in >>> their places can think in terms of 8/29, too. >> >>

Re: Olbermann

2005-09-06 Thread Robert Seeberger
Alberto Monteiro wrote: > Dave Land wrote: >> >> These are leaders who defined national security in terms of 9/11. >> The >> question is whether we will insist that the blighters we put in >> their >> places can think in terms of 8/29, too. >> > I feel sorry for the victims, but wasn´t here an al

Re: Olbermann

2005-09-06 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Warren Ockrassa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 5:17 PM Subject: Re: Olbermann > On Sep 6, 2005, at 11:53 AM, Dan Minette wrote: > > > Going to the National Hurricane Center Archives, we see that that, 3 > >

Re: Disturbing report

2005-09-06 Thread Robert Seeberger
Julia Thompson wrote: > Ronn!Blankenship wrote: >> At 10:50 AM Tuesday 9/6/2005, Dan Minette wrote: >> >>> A friend of ours who works at a local clinic (just north of >>> Houston) said they are getting a number of people from New Orleans >>> there. The most disturbing story were two women who cam

Re: Olbermann

2005-09-06 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Sep 6, 2005, at 11:53 AM, Dan Minette wrote: Going to the National Hurricane Center Archives, we see that that, 3 days before it hit, it was a minimal hurricane (75 mph winds) that was suppose to curve soon and hit the Florida Panhandle. Which, IIRC, it did. Apparently several people in F

Re: Olbermann

2005-09-06 Thread Julia Thompson
Alberto Monteiro wrote: Dave Land wrote: These are leaders who defined national security in terms of 9/11. The question is whether we will insist that the blighters we put in their places can think in terms of 8/29, too. I feel sorry for the victims, but wasn´t here an alarm, calling for eva

Re: Disturbing report

2005-09-06 Thread Julia Thompson
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 10:50 AM Tuesday 9/6/2005, Dan Minette wrote: A friend of ours who works at a local clinic (just north of Houston) said they are getting a number of people from New Orleans there. The most disturbing story were two women who came to their clinic because they were

Re: The Doom That Came To N'Warlins - II

2005-09-06 Thread Julia Thompson
Dave Land wrote: On Sep 4, 2005, at 11:51 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: Granted, I live in this region. Geographically, I share the same type of enviroment as the effected people. I have travelled through all those places, and have stayed in many of them. I've known people from these areas all my

Re: The Doom That Came To N'Warlins - II

2005-09-06 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: "Dave Land" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 11:39 PM Subject: Re: The Doom That Came To N'Warlins - II On Sep 4, 2005, at 7:00 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: From: "Dave Land" <[EMAIL

Re: Olbermann

2005-09-06 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 12:26 PM Tuesday 9/6/2005, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Dave Land wrote: > > These are leaders who defined national security in terms of 9/11. The > question is whether we will insist that the blighters we put in their > places can think in terms of 8/29, too. > I feel sorry for the victims, but wa

Re: Olbermann

2005-09-06 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Alberto Monteiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 12:26 PM Subject: Re: Olbermann > Dave Land wrote: > > > > These are leaders who defined national security in terms of 9/11. The > > question is whether we wil

RE: Olbermann

2005-09-06 Thread Ritu
Dave Land wrote: > >> These are leaders who defined national security in terms > of 9/11. The > >> question is whether we will insist that the blighters we > put in their > >> places can think in terms of 8/29, too. > > > > I feel sorry for the victims, but wasn´t here an alarm, calling for

Re: Olbermann

2005-09-06 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 6, 2005, at 10:26 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Dave Land wrote: These are leaders who defined national security in terms of 9/11. The question is whether we will insist that the blighters we put in their places can think in terms of 8/29, too. I feel sorry for the victims, but wasn´t h

Re: Olbermann

2005-09-06 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Dave Land wrote: > > These are leaders who defined national security in terms of 9/11. The > question is whether we will insist that the blighters we put in their > places can think in terms of 8/29, too. > I feel sorry for the victims, but wasn´t here an alarm, calling for evacuation from the ci

Re: Olbermann

2005-09-06 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 5, 2005, at 11:27 PM, The Fool wrote: <> Thank you for this disturbing, enlightening piece of commentary. But, nationally, these are leaders who won re-election last year largely by portraying their opponents as incapable of keeping the country sa

Re: Disturbing report

2005-09-06 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:50 AM Tuesday 9/6/2005, Dan Minette wrote: A friend of ours who works at a local clinic (just north of Houston) said they are getting a number of people from New Orleans there. The most disturbing story were two women who came to their clinic because they were rapedbut who would not r

RE: 7 Children abandoned in NO by RESCUE WORKERS

2005-09-06 Thread Ritu
Gary Nunn wrote: > Come on, this is a little misleading. If you read the > original Seattle Times story, this is clearly a case of > children UNINTENTIONALLY separated from their parents in the chaos. Umm, I think that isn't the case. From what I've read, the separation from parents was inten

Disturbing report

2005-09-06 Thread Dan Minette
A friend of ours who works at a local clinic (just north of Houston) said they are getting a number of people from New Orleans there. The most disturbing story were two women who came to their clinic because they were rapedbut who would not report the rapes to authorities. Dan M. _

RE: 7 Children abandoned in NO by RESCUE WORKERS

2005-09-06 Thread Gary Nunn
Come on, this is a little misleading. If you read the original Seattle Times story, this is clearly a case of children UNINTENTIONALLY separated from their parents in the chaos. No matter what the circumstances are, I refuse to believe that ANY rescuer would abandon children for any reason. Th

7 Children abandoned in NO by RESCUE WORKERS

2005-09-06 Thread The Fool
Outrageous: <> The water wasn't going down and they had been living without light, food or air conditioning for four days. The baby needed milk and the milk was gone. So she decided they would evacuate by helicopter. When a helicopter arrived

Olbermann

2005-09-06 Thread The Fool
<> SECAUCUS — Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff said it all, starting his news briefing Saturday afternoon: "Louisiana is a city that is largely underwater..." Well there's your problem right there. If ever a slip-of-the-tongue defined a govern