Highly unlikely.
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Subject: Re: Job opportunity - hurry to apply!
Nick,
Is this really you?
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At 06:15 PM Monday 6/18/2012, Dan Minette wrote:
So, I just ordered a 16 foot cat
Dang! And I thought I had a lot of litter box scooping to do with two
regular-size ones . . .
I thought it was a whole lotta claws to have to
How are things on the wildfire front down under?
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Gary Gygax has died...
http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/03/04/obit.gygax.ap/index.html?iref=newssea
rch
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Matt Grimaldi wrote
Lance A. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is the fascination (mania? obsession?) with the word
maru on this list?
This whole thing started because, for a time, there were a
large number of brin-lers that also belonged to the list for
fans of Ian Banks'
Dave Land wrote
I was about to reply with a snarky comment about how the
Discovery Channel will no doubt produce a fear-mongering
video about the dangers of the Supervolcano in Yellowstone,
but the Discovery Channel beat me to it
There was a made for TV (cable?) movie called
Dan M wrote
He has strong differences with many on this list, including
me, on a number of subjects...but that's no more accurate
than calling your position America is always wrong.
I've said it before, the list is a poorer place without people like
Gautam on it. While I didn't always
Gary Nunn wrote:
It seems to me that Congress should have more important
issues to deal with than trying to appease lobbyist with a
hidden agenda over something that happened 90 years ago.
I have the sinking feeling that the Democrats in control of Congress
WANT to anger Turkey. If they
jon louis mann wrote:
i asked the same question and was given this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobayashi_Maru
Someone should create a Brin-L/Maru page on Wikipedia. I wonder if that
would last through the review process...
Not that I'm volunteering or anything!
- jmh
Woo Foo
Gary Nunn wrote
I thought Highlander 2 was bad, but this one easily takes the
prize. It's almost worse than Tremor: The Series.
This is an all new low for terrible SciFi channel programming.
I'm not sure anything could be worse than River World. Ack! I'm a
HUGE fan of the series but
Charlie Bell wrote
Oooo... There's that nerve again. At least it wasn't *me*
this time!
It's going to get very tiresome if every time I disagree with
something strongly, you claim it's a hit nerve...
Looks like I hit ano...urk!!
Oh wait...
Nevermind.
;-) Sorry, couldn't resist.
Charlie Bell wrote
Sanctimonious? How much of a snarl-up is asking for trouble?
Oooo... There's that nerve again. At least it wasn't *me* this time!
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Woo Foo Maru
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JLM wrote:
What is Woo Foo???
Woo Foo, grasshopper, is the ancient sacred art of the Woo Foo Warriors on the
Disney Jetix show Yin Yang Yo! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yin-Yang-Yo).
It's actually a pretty annoying show but my kids love it.
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Robert Seeberger wrote
Type O was the original paleolithic blood type.
Type A showed up after agriculture changed our diet from
hunter/gatherer.
Then type B, AB, etc.
I didn't realize type O (high protein diets) correlates with
internet posters.
Jon..that is all bull.
Is
Charlie Bell wrote
Like everyone else? A majority of people in motor vehicles speed.
Cyclists who do flaunt road rules, flaunt different road
rules to car drivers, but they're still a minority of cyclists.
Hit a nerve, did I? Didn't mean to. Yes, most motorists flaunt certain
rules of
Ronn! Blankenship wrote
Do you think cats would see being made more like humans as an
improvement?
At Least They Could Use The Can Opener Maru
I'm pretty sure the only thing cats would possibly want is opposable
thumbs. Then they would surely rule the world. (And be able to use the
can
Julia Thompson wrote
(Most cyclists tend to be
significantly more safety-conscious than many drivers, I've noticed.)
Would that be the ones who ride straight through red lights and stop
signs without stopping? That's a particular pet peeve of mine. If you
want to share the road, fine. But
Martin Lewis wrote
I was using it in reference to this line:
Oh, for Krum's sake, Martin. Take a pill.
I don't get the exact meaning but presumed you were
suggesting something about my mental state.
I read that as take a chill pill which is a bit different.
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If I told you where I got my underwear, would that help?
Julia
http://www.victoriassecret.com/
Is that a work-safe link? grin
Somehow I doubt it...
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Andrew Crystall wrote
On 29 Jul 2007 at 18:17, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
At 02:06 PM Sunday 7/29/2007, Horn, John wrote:
Andrew Crystall wrote:
And the Noahide Laws?
Noahide? Isn't that what they used to make couches and
chairs out of?
I have often seen them
Andrew Crystall wrote:
And the Noahide Laws?
Noahide? Isn't that what they used to make couches and chairs out of?
- jmh
No Real Content Maru
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Nick Arnett wrote
On 7/26/07, Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Astronauts were allowed to fly after flight surgeons and other
astronauts warned they were so drunk they posed a
flight-safety risk
on at least two occasions, an aviation weekly reported Thursday.
The
William T Goodall wrote
Dr. Miller's data reveal some yawning gaps in basic knowledge.
American adults in general do not understand what molecules
are (other than that they are really small). Fewer than a
third can identify DNA as a key to heredity. Only about 10
percent know what
On Behalf Of Ronn! Blankenship
Study Traces Cat's Ancestry to Middle East
When this was posted on CNN.COM, the headline was House Cat Ancestor Of
Middle Eastern Wildcat.
That's quite a trick.
They have since changed it.
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On Behalf Of Nick Arnett
I let my domain, mccmedia.com, expire... Ooops.
Fortunately, not a problem. I'm glad no domain-squatters grabbed it and
tried to cause trouble.
I hope your wife is doing OK now.
- jmh
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On Behalf Of Mauro Diotallevi
The interview talks about Brin's success as a
prognosticator, his views on whether science helps us
perceive better, the pace of change, and, of course, privacy.
There's nothing terribly new here, but it's interesting nonetheless.
Discover has been
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So I guess discussing vasectomies is right out?
It will knot be tolerated.
What vas deferens would it make if we did?
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the lurker who introduced me to the brinlist took a couple
years before he finally decided the neo-cons were an
aberration.
The neo-cons you speak of might be an aberration but I think Brin-L is
poorer for their absence. There is only so long you can be
On Behalf Of Richard Baker
On the other
hand, I'm pretty sure that for the spinning, uncharged case
you have to pass through an infinite blueshift surface on the
way through though, so you'll be fried even if you aren't shredded.
I really hate it when that happens.
Obligatory second
On Behalf Of Russell Chapman
I agree with what you're saying, but I'm curious about why
you would include TWA800 in the list. It is the one attack
(if it was) on the US in recent times that
(a) could have been done by a VERY few people - I mean
Stingers go missing all the time and it
On Behalf Of Dan Minette
(b) where very little meaningful evidence has been recovered.
This is a popular myth, but I've seen the reconstructed plane
on TV reports a number of years ago and it looked rather
substantial
That reminds me of more people who would have to be involved in
On Behalf Of Robert Seeberger
But overall, this story changes my perception of the
potential success
rate of conspiracies and the ability to keep them out of the public
consciousness for long periods.
Maybe. But it definitely illustrates that if you want to keep a
conspiracy like this
On Behalf Of jon louis mann
There are a number of 9/11 conspiracy theories, including the
Loose Change documentary and various links proliferating on
the net. I haven't been able to corroborate any of these on
snopes.com, or even ascertain if any are hoaxes.
Take a look at the 9-11
On Behalf Of Ronn! Blankenship
(part of http://www.besse.at/sms/evolutn.html)
I gotta say I've not seen this site before. And it gave me a very good
laugh this morning when I needed it. Very funny. I'll have to read it
all when I get a chance. Thanks for posting it.
- jmh
On Behalf Of Ronn! Blankenship
Too bad that at least nine out of ten people you ask will
have no idea what happened on that date . . .and that
includes people who were alive and old enough to be in school then.
Spoil sport!
OK. I was 3 1/2. I don't remember the exact date but could
I was reading some newsgroups and came across the news that some-time
Brin-ler Keith Henson has been arrested in Arizona. He is fighting
extradition to California.
See: http://freekeithhenson.blogspot.com/
and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Henson#Current_status
- jmh
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In any case, e-mail can be subpoenaed, at least in the US.
Don't say anything in e-mail that you wouldn't want read
aloud in a court of law, is a good rule of thumb.
Or on the front page of your local newspaper. That's another good rule
of thumb these days.
Washington 'snubbed Iran offer'
Iran offered the US a package of concessions in 2003, but it was
rejected, a senior former US official has told the BBC's Newsnight
programme.
Tehran proposed ending support for Lebanese and Palestinian militant
groups and helping to stabilise Iraq following the
On Behalf Of William T Goodall
HBO has acquired the rights to turn George R.R. Martin's
bestselling fantasy series A Song of Fire and Ice into a
dramatic series to be written and exec produced by David
Benioff and D.B. Weiss.
Oh man. I had to get Showtime just to watch _Dexter_. Now
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On 21/12/2006, at 9:43 AM, Nick Arnett wrote:
So... It appears to me that the list is up again.
Here's the short version of what happened.
Well, thanks for hosting it, and dealing with the issues.
Ditto here. Thanks for all of
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What exactly are the possible adverse consequences of
allowing gay marriage?
Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies.
Rivers and seas boiling.
Forty years of darkness.
Earthquakes, volcanoes...
The dead rising from the grave.
Human sacrifice...
Dogs and
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We have failed to make Iraq secure for Iraqis, so how can it
make sense for us to teach them how to make their country secure?
This may be a valid argument. But what else can we do? I really
don't know.
- jmh
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Hmm, I think Uplifted pachyderms will challenge engineers to
fit out a spaceship that holds them...
It worked for Niven and Pournelle in Footfall...
- jmh
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St. Louis Cardinals, World Champions.
*cough* Time they allowed other countries in, eh?
Well, Canada still has a team...
- jmh
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--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Most of the things I'm reading call him Horned Rim Glasses
Man
or HRG for short (or sometimes HRM).
I doubt it. The hotel lady didn't know what happened to FlyingGuy
in the morning. Unless she
St. Louis Cardinals, World Champions.
Man, I like the sound of that!
- jmh
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Did you catch the long ponytail?
Just how far in the future is he from?
Considering how well he spoke English, he would have to be from
pretty far in the future, I'd think. Actually, I don't think a
adult native Japanese speaker would EVER be able to
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Iraq had Saran, at the VERY least. They're *STILL* finding
dangerous Saran shells (and I wish like heck that some of the
so-called news reporters wouls say something about it..I talk
to friends of American soliders out there for the real news, tbh).
I'm not
I gotta tell you, being from NJ originally, this subject line has me
thinking: the Mafia is really changed a lot since I've been gone
from Jersey.
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On Behalf Of Jim Sharkey
Evil Glasses Guy said something to the effect that PsyCop's
power is advancing more quickly than he'd have expected. We
haven't seen enough of the wipeout guy's power to know if
he can be a booster as well as a damper.
Yeah, I think the Cop just got a mindwipe
On Behalf Of William T Goodall
It's better than _Jericho_ ...
My favourite (uncancelled) new season show is _Dexter_. My
favourite returning shows are _Battlestar_, _Prison Break_,
_Lost_ and _Veronica Mars_.
My wife and I love it. It is one excellent show. We also love
Battlestar
On Behalf Of Charlie Bell
Indeed, with respect to the Presidential power to declare
citizens
enemy combatants, construct tribunals, and execute them on the
decisions of these tribunals, the actions of the last 5 years
has
slightly restricted Bush's power from what the Supreme
Court
On Behalf Of Ritu
I am a bit surprised you don't notice this - the military
commissions can only try alien UECs, but the term UEC may
well be applied to US citizens. No provision in the Act says
that it is applicable to aliens and aliens alone.
But it does specifically refer to aliens
On Behalf Of Charlie Bell
Global warming... just a theory...
Bunnies... I think it's bunnies...
- jmh
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these hypocrites, such as the Foley case, and even rabid
rightists will see them for what they are: power-grabbing
immoral elitists.
They are politicians...what else would they be? Right, left, they
are all hungry for power and all tha goes with it.
- jmh
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Presuming that you would describe the fear of your
grandmother being forced to live in a cardboard box on the
street and eat dogfood for lunch if Republicans are elected
to be principle rather than personal safety.
See, that's the thing. If I'm worried about
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As I think you know, you're writing to the guy who came up
with the truth about the Reagan shooting when the rest of the
Washington press corps missed the story and accepted the
White House version.
Actually, I didn't know. What was the truth? What was the
On Behalf Of pencimen
Type A is authoritarian, metes out punishment, and is highly
involved in world and personal affairs (the view of about 31
percent).
Type B is benevolent, also active in the world and
individual
lives, but more forgiving (23 percent).
Type C is
One of the thoughts I've had repeatedly since 9/11 is about the
phenomenon that just about anything can be accepted if it's done by
guys on your own side. The unprecedented power that George W Bush
is trying to take into the White House is one of those. Republicans
say it is great; Democrats say
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Agnosticism : ~Believe {God(s) exist} is true Atheism :
Believe {God(s) exist} is ~true
Which are equivalent in a two-valued logic system.
Am I the only one who read this and thought, huh? Can you parse
that out for me...?
- jmh
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William T Goodall wrote:
...
Agnostics don't believe that it is true that God(s) exist.
Atheists believe that it is not true that God(s) exist.
In normal binary logic (true/false) these are equivalent
since ~true
(NOT true) = false (and ~false = true).
At 06:46 PM Sunday 9/3/2006, Nick Arnett wrote:
We went to the San Jose Flea Market today... a large affair, with
all
sorts of vendors... including a photogaphy studio... where They
Have
Appeared. I got a picture with my camera phone.
And dang it, they're not teal.
For some reason, I read
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D'oh! Wrong server for me!
Speakking of which, any Brinnell users on the Thunderhorn server?
No WoW for me, as of yet. Still playing CoH/CoV and loving it.
Anyone else playing CoX? We could form a Brin-L supergroup!
- jmh
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PRAGUE, Czech Republic (AP) -- Leading astronomers declared Thursday
that Pluto is no longer a planet under historic new guidelines that
downsize the solar system from nine planets to eight.
After a tumultuous week of clashing over the essence of the cosmos,
the International Astronomical Union
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One thing nobody in this conversation has taken up is the amazing
amount of damage to the interior lobby area. Firemen teams
who arrived
found scores of injured in the ruined lobby {not dead smooshed
people
having jumped to their death outside}. Here's
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Correct the header. :-)
Modernized now.
Yoda-ized the header.
- jmh
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On 7/29/06, Brother John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We ourselves used to be
an enormously fertile and prolific people. Our ascendancy over
the
Native Americans who were here before us is as much a factor of
the
difference in our relative birthrates as
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Doug said:
Is anyone interested in reading and discussing this Jared
Diamond book
on list? I volunteer to lead some of the discussion...
I read it a couple of months ago and won't have time to read
it again in the immediate future, but I'd be happy to
The question I'd love to see asked is are there really other videos
of the crash at the Pentagon? There are so many conspiracy sites
that talk about a surveillance video from a gas station across the
street. Do they really exist?
I don't know if this person would or would not have any
On Behalf Of Jim Sharkey
Something that it looks like China will soon be facing.
Though that article indicates that OZ is looking for girls.
Can any of our Down Under folks enlighten us as to why that
is. China's cultural bias is obvious, but why Australia's
desire for girls?
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There are times when sharing hobbies creates a shudder
elsewhere in the household. I started teaching my
eight-year-old son how to play Magic:the Gathering about a
year ago, and he's taken to it with the kind of enthusiasm
you'd expect from a boy his age. My
Long time lurker, occasional poster. I've been on the list since
around when The Postman came out, I believe. 1997? Gah, that
seems like a LONG time. Anyway, I'm 39, married, have 2 kids (one
with Asperger's Syndrome and the other born with a cleft lip and
palate). I'm a computer programmer
On Behalf Of Dan Minette
If Gautam were still on the list, he might have been
persuaded to talk to the liberal Democrat he's going to
school with who compiled this. Why would liberal Democrats
want to whitewash Bush?
If my conversation with Gautam was correct, this sort of thing is a
On Behalf Of Dave Land
But I do think that progressives should address the actual
cause of the nation's (and some of the world's) woes -- the
conservative program -- instead of engaging in smug,
self-satisfied and ultimately self-defeating talk about
incompetence.
I feel the same way
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grin Well, it was only 3 feet long, but Bashir had a
bullsnake cornered 2 days ago; he eventually got bored with
it (I was actually hoping he'd get bitten by this
non-venemous type, so that he would know to avoid snakes in
the future, but no such luck),
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To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: When BatLeths Are Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will
Have BatLeths
On 5/31/06, Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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You guys and your swords. I'll take
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That's probably because your pretty negative yourself.
Only in specific details. Overall I am
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You guys and your swords. I'll take a pollaxe...
Never bring a sword, batleth or a poleaxe to a gunfight!
- jmh
Bang Bang Maru
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Well with the expression of interest in gaming that was put
forth on the console side of things, I figured it was just as
well to see what games that you all play online.
City of Heroes/City of Villians. Played a little of the Auto
Assault beta and a couple of
On Behalf Of Julia Thompson
There's no scripture, though, which I think is an important
part of the definition of fundamentalism.
I think militant is a more useful adjective when describing
some atheists. See my previous post on the subject.
I always used the description devout atheist
On Behalf Of Russell Chapman
This is exactly what's wrong with online gaming. I am a
*very* casual, occasional computer game player, and there
doesn't seem to be anywhere I can go for online gaming. I
bought Battelfield2, which looks great, but has limited
single player scope. But the
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All the books are aimed at boys. Both the AS and the ADD
books. It
seems that AS presents itself differently in girls so that makes
it
very difficult to pick good books.
I think you may be mistaken about this. Many of the ADD
books are written by women,
On Behalf Of PAT MATHEWS
This is going to be a long post of the dump the load
variety, so anyone not interested can either delete or skim,
but here goes:
Wow. Thanks very much (and everyone else who responded as well)!!
Much more than I expected.
1) It's not the end of the world.
I
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An essay criticizing skeptics is torn apart here:
http://www.autismstreet.org/weblog/?p=39
And the first commenter is James Randi. So I just had to share.
A very interesting article. Even more interesting, for me, was the
site itself. My daughter was just
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I have not been posting here much for a while...
How goes the war against the Cult?
- jmh
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Shannon, is gone I heard
She's drifting out to sea
She always loved to swim away
Maybe she'll find an island with a shaded tree Just like the
one in our backyard
I was waiting for this one.
Hoping against it, I guess, but expecting it nonetheless.
My
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Horn, John wrote:
The marchin' band came down along Main Street The soldier
blues fell
in behind I looked across and there I saw Billy Waiting to go
and
join the line And with her head upon his shoulder His young
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Cheaper, bigger, has print server. What's the catch?
I went with a Buffalo Technologies LinkStation, in case anyone is
wondering. I had another friend who recommended this one as well.
Thanks
The marchin' band came down along Main Street
The soldier blues fell in behind
I looked across and there I saw Billy
Waiting to go and join the line
And with her head upon his shoulder
His young and lovely fiancee
From where I stood I saw she was cryin'
And through her tears I heard her say
On Behalf Of Charlie Bell
On Mar 18, 2006, at 10:18 AM, Horn, John wrote:
Any of you have any experience with Network Attached Storage
drives?
I'm interested in finding one that is not too expensive,
can be hooked
into my router (which probably all of them can) and has a built
Any of you have any experience with Network Attached Storage drives?
I'm interested in finding one that is not too expensive, can be
hooked into my router (which probably all of them can) and has a
built in print server.
I had a very difficult time trying to find information in my
searching on
On Behalf Of Nick Arnett
I expect that many of you, like me, have not been aware of
this particular trend:
http://www.cowabduction.com/
I lost my cow
him name is hopkin brown cow
I'll find my cow
Who took my cow?
Who found my cow?
- jmh
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For all you gamers out there...
Go to Google Video (http://video.google.com) and search on Fear of
Girls.
Watch it. Laugh. Cringe. Then go home, give your wife* a big, big
hug and say there but for the grace of you go I.
I know I will.
- jmh
(* Or significant other or whatever...)
DAVOS, Switzerland (FORTUNE) - Be afraid. Be very afraid.
That's the message from two of the world's most successful investors
on the topic of high oil prices. One of them, Hermitage Capital's
Bill Browder, has outlined six scenarios that could take oil up to a
downright terrifying $262 a barrel.
n Behalf Of Julia Thompson
And then there's the question, is it a firecracker or a gun?
If you hear enough of both, you learn to tell the difference
in sound. Or so I've been told by someone who lived on a
really bad street in DC for a year.
But could that person tell the difference
On Behalf Of Dave Land
And it's not just that people described the plane hitting the
tower as an explosion, it's the reports -- many of them at
the time they happened -- of there goes another explosion.
There are radio recordings of lots of firefighters reported
secondary explosions
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I know that other 9/11 analyses have been posted to this
list, but I came across a one-hour documentary that concludes
that it is more likely than not that the government was
actually behind the attacks
I have not had a chance to look at
On Behalf Of Nick Arnett
The diagnosis is irrelevant. Notwithstanding the idea that
one can contract a venereal disease innocently (from one's
spouse, for example), none of us is so innocent that we have
the right to cast judgment. To act Christian -- Christ-like
-- means we are
On Behalf Of Julia Thompson
Valtrex is used to treat stuff OTHER than herpes contracted
by sexual contact, and to prevent someone from getting the
medication can be life-threatening.
The diagnosis for the prescription was probably written on the
script as I believe that's required for
On Behalf Of Robert G. Seeberger
http://www.iol.ie/~dluby/escape.htm
Dang. I'm getting a page-not-found error on this. Any idea where
it might have moved to?
- jmh
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