Matt Grimaldi wrote:
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> Dan Minette wrote:
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> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:12 PM
> >
Dan Minette wrote:
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:12 PM
> Subject: Re: More on the environmental movement
>
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From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Confrontational style (was: More on the environmental movement)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 13:39:19 -0700 (PDT)
While I often use humo
Deborah Harrell wrote:
> Debbi
> who admits to having a bit of a thing for
> vampires-struggling-to-overcome-their-bloodlust... ;}
I like P.N. Elrod for that sort of thing. :)
Julia
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Debbi wrote:
who admits to having a bit of a thing for
vampires-struggling-to-overcome-their-bloodlust... ;}
Too much Barnibus (sp?) as a youth?
--
Doug
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Nick Lidster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> More so then that a movie was made out of it,
> "Underworld".
I presume you mean about a virus causing
vampirism...hmm, have to see if I can rent that!
Debbi
who admits to having a bit of a thing for
vampires-struggling-to-overcome-their-bloodlust... ;
More so then that a movie was made out of it, "Underworld".
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At 03:58 PM 5/11/04, Deborah Harrell wrote:
Perhaps I should have written what it made me
think of: a short story or article about how vampires
are the result of a viral infection... :)
It's been done . . .
-- Ronn! :)
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> Gary Denton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
Now I'll have to go back and check for that -
> > "Indeed, Neanderthal skeletons resemble cretins
far
> >> more closely than they resemble healthy modern
> >> h
Erik Reuter wrote:
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> On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 11:22:49PM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
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> > At this point, only one of them can move faster than I can walk
> > quickly. :)
>
> What if one goes in one direction and another in the opposite direction?
I can scoop up one baby and then go after the
Erik Reuter wrote:
>Julia Thompson wrote:
>> At this point, only one of them can move faster than I can
>>walk quickly. :)
>What if one goes in one direction and another in the opposite
>direction?
That? Oh, that just means she's an incompetent mother. Haven't you been paying
attention? ;-)
On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 11:22:49PM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
> At this point, only one of them can move faster than I can walk
> quickly. :)
What if one goes in one direction and another in the opposite direction?
--
Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> >Julia wrote-
> >
> >wondering how much each trip up the stairs carrying a baby counts on the
> >"exercise" bit
>
> There are some people who structure their activities so
> they do stay aerobic with their ADLs (Activities of Daily
> Living) for a minimum of 20-30 mi
>Julia wrote-
>
>wondering how much each trip up the stairs carrying a baby counts on the
>"exercise" bit
There are some people who structure their activities so
they do stay aerobic with their ADLs (Activities of Daily
Living) for a minimum of 20-30 min daily. We have talked
in the past abo
At 04:36 PM 5/7/04, Julia Thompson wrote:
The Fool wrote:
>
> --
> From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> The Fool wrote:
> >
> > --
> > From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Deborah Harrell wrote:
> >
> > > While the numbers are smaller, the result of folate
> > >
The Fool wrote:
>
> --
> From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> The Fool wrote:
> >
> > --
> > From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Deborah Harrell wrote:
> >
> > > While the numbers are smaller, the result of folate
> > > supplementation is reduction of spina bi
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
>
> --- Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The 'state nannyism' came up in a discussion of
> > taking
> > a pill vs. actually getting off one's tushie and
> > getting some exercise WRT coronary artery disease -
> > the latter position mine, the former Gautam's. I
Dan Minette wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:12 PM
> Subject: Re: More on the environmental movement
>
&
Yesterday I inappropriately (as Dan gently pointed
out) tacked-on to the end of a post:
"Perhaps I am a bit piqued at what I see as an
underlying assumption Gautam makes when he attributes
bad intentions or stupidity to those who disagree with
him on certain issues -- You've assumed that people
I'
On Fri, 7 May 2004 03:55:48 -0500, The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>
> "Indeed, Neanderthal skeletons resemble cretins far
> more closely than they resemble healthy modern
> humans," Dobson wrote in the journal article.
> "Conversely, cretin skel
--
From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
The Fool wrote:
>
> --
> From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Deborah Harrell wrote:
>
> > While the numbers are smaller, the result of folate
> > supplementation is reduction of spina bifida and other
> > neural tube defects (
--
From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Further links, including to the articles footnoted,
are at the bottom of the site page.
"Indeed, Neanderthal skeletons resemble cretins far
more closely than they resemble healthy modern
humans," Dobson wrote in the journal article.
"Converse
At 08:40 PM 5/6/04, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A cynic would reply by bringing up the piece on IIRC
> this past Sunday's _60
> Minutes_ (or a similar show within the past few
> days. Maybe it was a
> weekend edition of _Today_.) about the rea$on why
> t
--- Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please give credit where it is due. The Republican
> administration in
> power at the time DDT was banned was more
> responsible than any fledgeling
> environmental movement and in fact the ban could not
> have taken place had
> it not been suppor
Gautam wrote:
I was criticizing a movement that has done immeasurable harm
to the world's poor, and you kind of jumped in. Fine.
But you (I notice) haven't actually agreed with me on
what are - I believe - very baseline positions. Use
DDT in countries where malaria is endemic. If not,
why not?
--- Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A cynic would reply by bringing up the piece on IIRC
> this past Sunday's _60
> Minutes_ (or a similar show within the past few
> days. Maybe it was a
> weekend edition of _Today_.) about the rea$on why
> there are no new
> antibiotics currently
At 07:32 PM 5/6/04, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...snip...
> The 'state nannyism' came up in a discussion of
> taking
> a pill vs. actually getting off one's tushie and
> getting some exercise WRT coronary artery disease -
> the latter position mine, the for
--- Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But if you want big numbers of lives saved or kept
> 'intact', look at sewage/water treatment and
> vaccination programs -- these latter _were not_
> entirely voluntary as schools required certain
> vaccinations for attendance. (Aside: I think the
>
- Original Message -
From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: More on the environmental movement
>
> I didn't know that. All I knew was, a cer
The Fool wrote:
>
> --
> From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Deborah Harrell wrote:
>
> > While the numbers are smaller, the result of folate
> > supplementation is reduction of spina bifida and other
> > neural tube defects (SB frequently results in
> > paralysis). And the lac
> Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Deborah Harrell wrote:
> > And the lack of iodine is potentially
> > devastating, with mental retardation of varying
> > degrees the result of prenatal/infantile
> deficiency.
> > [I believe that "cretinism" was the former term
> >for these unfortunat
> Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From: "Deborah Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > You've assumed that people
> > I've never heard of, or at best marginally so
> > (Chomsky, frex, or that Karen person), represent
> *my*
> > viewpoints and thoughts.
>
> Who does "you" refer to?
Sorr
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From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Deborah Harrell wrote:
> While the numbers are smaller, the result of folate
> supplementation is reduction of spina bifida and other
> neural tube defects (SB frequently results in
> paralysis). And the lack of iodine is potentially
> devastat
Deborah Harrell wrote:
> While the numbers are smaller, the result of folate
> supplementation is reduction of spina bifida and other
> neural tube defects (SB frequently results in
> paralysis). And the lack of iodine is potentially
> devastating, with mental retardation of varying
> degrees the
- Original Message -
From: "Deborah Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: More on the environmental movement
>
> You've assumed that people
>
> Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From: "Gautam Mukunda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > There's a huge difference between legislating
> against
> > McDonald's hamburgers and keeping kids from going
> > blind, Debbi.
>
> But, the example that Debbie gave was
>
> " folate enrichment of various
--- Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It seems to me that the third world examples you
> gave are critical and
> important; the McDonalds example is foolish, and
> Debbie's example is a
> fairly easy change like iodized salt. I would guess
> Debbie would agree
> with this, and I'd be curio
- Original Message -
From: "Gautam Mukunda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: More on the environmental movement
> There's a huge difference between legisla
--- Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Stopping yellow rice
> > - that's not a few loonies, that's a mass
> movement.
>
> If it field-tests not to be more susceptible to the
> various rice-rots/smuts/other diseases than the
> unaltered variety, it is worth pursuing. But
> playing
> de
> Kevin Tarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Earth Day Remember: If Environmentalism Succeeds,
> It Will Make Human Life Impossible
> By Michael S. Berliner
>
>Earth Day approaches, and with it a grave danger
> faces mankind. The danger is not from acid rain,
> global warming, smog, or the
> Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As a doctor, the notion of just allowing people to
> > starve to death is repulsive -- that's why groups
> > like The Heifer Project, who promote
> > environmentally sustainable economic growth
> > a
At 06:18 PM 22/04/04 -0700, you wrote:
Thanks for sending this.
My response is complex so please let me put it into
context.
snip
>... and so on. The latest, attacking Kerrey's war
>record, shows just how biliously crazy these people
>are.
>
>6) It is rooted, of course, in the us-vs-them
>attitu
--- Damon Agretto
>>After> all> > if Dog's going to> > destroy it all
anyway...
> Replace "a lot" with "some" and I think you'd be
> much> closer to actuality...
I agree, but mainly in the context of the sub-meme of
American tolerant enlightenment pragmatism. Those who
reject this sub-meme ofte
> A lot of 'christians' still hold this meme. They
> are so obsessed with
> Armageddon coming or the rapture that they literally
> throw their lives
> and lives of their children down the toilet.
> Jehovah's Witnesses are
> especially prone to this kind of thinking. But it
> goes further than
>
> From: Davd Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> >--- JDG> Somehow, I don't think that Jesus would
> >concern> himself with tax policy if> he returned.
> >Instead, he would concern himself> with individual
> >salvation.
>
> In fact, early Christians thought it would not matter.
> That the End of D
--- JDG> Somehow, I don't think that Jesus would
concern> himself with tax policy if> he returned.
Instead, he would concern himself> with individual
salvation.
In fact, early Christians thought it would not matter.
That the End of Days was at hand. It took more than
a century for them to sto
At 06:18 PM 4/22/2004 -0700 Davd Brin wrote:
> If Jesus arrived today,
>he would not give a damn about markets, and they know
>it. He said give the shirt off your back to the poor
>RIGHT NOW! He did not teach a man to fish, he gave
>the man fish.
>
>Face it, if he arrived here today, he would not
On 4/22/04 7:08 PM, "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am curious
> as to your thoughts on the matter, as I think this particular article is
> one of the most mendacious pieces of propaganda ever written.
Kevin, take this as a complement from Kneem! Because we all know what he
posts it t
Thanks for sending this.
My response is complex so please let me put it into
context.
1) The Left-vs-Right political axis is a piece of
arrant nonsense that I have inveighed against before.
If nothing else can kill this undead piece of
mind-limiting drivel, it should be the fact that the
damn thi
Dr. Brin, several right-wingers on the list have been posting screeds
like this one against the environment and environmentalism. I am curious
as to your thoughts on the matter, as I think this particular article is
one of the most mendacious pieces of propaganda ever written.
> --
> From
On Earth Day Remember: If Environmentalism Succeeds, It Will Make Human
Life Impossible
By Michael S. Berliner
Earth Day approaches, and with it a grave danger faces mankind.
The danger is not from acid rain, global warming, smog, or the logging of
rain forests, as environmentalists wo
--- Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As a doctor, the notion of just allowing people to
> starve to death is repulsive -- that's why groups
> like
> The Heifer Project, who promote environmentally
> sustainable economic growth on a tiny scale (helping
> individual families with training
> Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/04/22/EDGKO68MID1.DTL
>
> An excellent article by Nick Shulz and the
> co-founder
> of Green Peace on the failures of the environmental
> movement.
>
> My particular passion on th
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/04/22/EDGKO68MID1.DTL
An excellent article by Nick Shulz and the co-founder
of Green Peace on the failures of the environmental
movement.
My particular passion on this topic is easily
explainable. Norman Borlaug has saved the
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