At 22:17 7-3-2003 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
G. D. Akin wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
There was a short-lived movement to replace the GOTO with a new
statement, COMEFROM, but for some reason it never caught on . . .
I have a copy of the COMEFROM article somewhere. If I can find it,
On Thu Mar 6 18:04:31 PST 2003, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 01:45 AM 3/4/03 -0500, Han Tacoma wrote:
On Sun, 2 Mar 2003 19:35:29 -0800 Nick Arnett wrote:
[...snip...]
mistaken and by that time I had already left IBM with my early retirement
package and was learning a new life in a
At 09:40 PM 3/2/03 -0500, Han Tacoma wrote:
Let me not forget punch machines (024, 026 -- actually printed the
contents
of the card on top of the card, 029 -- a bit more modern) and there used to
be rooms filled with these machines -- usually 10 - 100, depending on the
size of the business. This
At 09:40 PM 3/2/03 -0500, Han Tacoma wrote:
Computers, ...OK my first machine was a 1401 and it had 4K of memory,
that's right, only 4K.
My first was an 1130 which had been upgraded from the basic model to have
8K of core memory¹, which meant the most precision I was ever able to coax
out of
At 08:21 PM 3/4/03 +0900, G. D. Akin wrote:
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From: Jose J.
At 06:47 PM 3/4/03 -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote:
George wrote:
In my first programming course, in BASIC, we had to simulate control
structures with the controlled use of IF ... GOTO.
Ahh, GOTO. I remember what a big deal it was when they installed a new
version of BASIC at the high school I
At 05:26 PM 3/5/03 -0600, Horn, John wrote:
From: Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I remember clearly how much of a big NONO our programming
teachers made with
GOTO as well. Anybody remember the term spaghetti code?
When they banned GOTO, I showed 'em! I changed all my code to
At 01:45 4-3-2003 -0500, Han Tacoma wrote:
There's hardly a machine or acronym there that isn't familiar to me...
but I should note that I was 9 years old in 1965.
How'd you get to know all those numbers and acronyms?
I think that over the years he built up a database of all computer-related
Nick Arnett wrote back on Tue Mar 4 07:12:55 PST 2003
should note that I was 9 years old in 1965.
.
How'd you get to know all those numbers and acronyms?
I think my life was programmed for computers.
he, he happens to some.
When I was 10 or 11, I was part of a project by some
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of J. van Baardwijk
...
I think that over the years he built up a database of all
computer-related
abbreviations, acronyms, brand names etcetera, and then wrote a
script that
picks them randomly and
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Han Tacoma
...
So the work done at MIT with LOGO -- Seymour Papert (Piaget), was
post your era?
*Much* later. That was in the late 70s.
BTW, I don't recall having seen any mention to LOGO during this
At 15:30 1-3-2003 -0500, Han Tacoma wrote:
Just joined the list and got caught up in this thread, nostalgia suddenly
waking up in me.
Hello to you too, and welcome on board! :-)
Care to tell us a bit more about you? You know, getting to know you and
stuff like that. :-)
In return, we will
be forewarned, this may be considered long, or very long by some
_
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo on Sun Mar 2 00:30:26 PST 2003 wrote:
Welcome aboard. Have fun!! :)
Thanks for the welcome Jose, muchas gracias. Krajo que este
sitio
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Han Tacoma
...
Became a Systems Engineer, Sales Rep., Product Planner for SQL/DS,
worked with early natural language, knowledge based system products,
and then retired from IBM (in South America,
Hello,
I'll focus on Getting to know you.
Just joined the list and got caught up in this thread,
nostalgia suddenly waking up in me.
At 06:19 PM 2/28/03 +0900, G. D. Akin wrote:
Ronn!: wrote
Since this seems to have turned into post your resume:
Note really post your resume, but Getting to
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From: Han Tacoma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 2:30 PM
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Han Tacoma
~ Artificial Intelligence is better than none! ~
I'll take natural
At 02:32 PM 2/26/03 +, William T Goodall wrote:
I much prefer C to Pascal. Or Modula-2 or Ada or any of those other BD
languages.
BD?
Imagining Whips And Chains In The Computer Room Maru
-- Ronn! :)
Almighty Ruler of the all,
Whose Power extends to great and small,
Who guides the
At 02:32 PM 2/26/03 +, William T Goodall wrote:
Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons.
- Popular Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949
And the mouse will probably weigh no more than 80-100 pounds . . .
-- Ronn! :)
Almighty Ruler of the all,
At 07:50 AM 2/27/03 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
Java is also the most widely used programming language in the world. What
the heck is so evil about it?
For some, that is sufficient reason to consider it evil, just as M$ is
considered evil because of its industry dominance.
-- Ronn! :)
At 06:19 PM 2/28/03 +0900, G. D. Akin wrote:
Ronn!: wrote
Since this seems to have turned into post your resume:
Note really post your resume, but Getting to know you.
Okay, here's the smiley that should have been there:
;-)
-- Ronn! :)
Almighty Ruler of the all,
Whose Power extends to
At 02:50 AM 3/1/03 +, Paul Walker wrote:
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 08:10:57PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
BD?
Imagining Whips And Chains In The Computer Room Maru
Mm, kind of.
http://www.jargonfile.com/jargon/html/entry/bondage-and-discipline-language.html
I have learned my new term for
At 08:31 PM 2/28/03 -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
Anyone want to comment here on APL?
I was forced to take an APL course in college as part of NJIT's Statistics
and Actuarial Science program at the time. I can't say that I remember
much about it; it was an introductory
At 10:19 PM 2/28/03 -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote:
Nick wrote:
Java is also the most widely used programming language in the world. What
the heck is so evil about it?
Ronn! replied:
For some, that is sufficient reason to consider it evil, just as M$ is
considered evil because of its industry
At 02:11 PM 3/1/03 +0900, G. D. Akin wrote:
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At 05:24 PM 2/26/03 -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
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David wrote (that's David H., I
At 01:06 PM 2/26/03 -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
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On Wed, Feb
At 08:01 PM 2/27/03 +0900, you wrote:
I learned BASIC, COBOL, then Pascal and FORTRAN simultaneously, then PL/I
and IBM 360 (yep, that long ago) Assembly Language. My favorite language is
still Pascal though I have never seen it used outside the educational
community.
I once worked for a
Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
If I have to choose between coding COBOL and coding RPG,
I would much rather go for COBOL.
What is RPG? I know two things that use this AFT, but
none of them are computer languages.
RPG is/was a programming language that grew out
of
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No, I disagree, seriously. Assembly language was the easiest language I
have learned. Tedious to use, but easy to understand. It followed what
was going on in the CPU in a straightforward manner, little abstraction.
True,
At 07:49 AM 2/26/2003 -0500, you wrote:
I feel I can exercise a lot more control with a
computer programming language that uses instructions
that resemble natural language.
This is your feeling, but not mine. I think a computer
language that adds unnecessary symbols make it harder
to
At 02:51 PM 2/26/2003 +, you wrote:
From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 14:32:34 +
When my wife was doing a two-year computing course she had to learn
COBOL. I'd never used COBOL, and when I saw it I found it close to
incomprehensible.
You have to agree,
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