Reggie Bautista wrote:
Doug wrote:
Or a phenomenon that is beyond our understanding, but in fact has a
logical explanation?
I replied:
Hypothetical situation: At some point in the future, God reveals
him/her/itself in an unambiguous, empirically testable way. If that
is going to eventually
From: Jon Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well... it depends on if the stones are standing upright or
not, I guess. :)
Why? Did they have too much to drink at the Solstice Party?
(Couldn't resist.)
- jmh
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From: Jon Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well... it depends on if the stones are standing upright or
not, I guess. :)
Why? Did they have too much to drink at the Solstice Party?
No, it's just that the Stones are so old and wasted that they
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 10:34:43PM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
All of the ones we've owned since we got married (and we got some
in 1991) were wired in parallel. But if you pull a bulb *out*, all
of them go off. Which can make decorating the tree with Star Trek
starships that plug into the
Erik Reuter wrote:
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 10:34:43PM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
All of the ones we've owned since we got married (and we got some
in 1991) were wired in parallel. But if you pull a bulb *out*, all
of them go off. Which can make decorating the tree with Star Trek
Doug wrote:
Or a phenomenon that is beyond our understanding, but in fact has a
logical explanation?
I replied:
Hypothetical situation: At some point in the future, God reveals
him/her/itself in an unambiguous, empirically testable way. If that is
going to eventually happen, then right now
At 07:03 AM 6/26/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Erik Reuter wrote:
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 10:34:43PM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
All of the ones we've owned since we got married (and we got some
in 1991) were wired in parallel. But if you pull a bulb *out*, all
of them go off. Which can make
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Erik Reuter wrote:
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 10:34:43PM -0500, Julia Thompson
Robert Seeberger wrote:
BTW...if your Christmas lights burn out *during* the Christmas season,
it means that Jesus doesn't love you anymore.
G
xponent
The Beginning Of A New Urban Legend Maru
rob
Yes, but does he love me any less? :)
And which Jesus, anyway? I mean, I've never met
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 05:35:51PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
Nah.its for convenience. It is just a basic series parallel
circuit, so you would get 120V if you got
Huh? series parallel circuit?
I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing. Julia said hers were
wired in parallel.
Erik Reuter wrote:
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 05:35:51PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
Nah.its for convenience. It is just a basic series parallel
circuit, so you would get 120V if you got
Huh? series parallel circuit?
I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing. Julia said
Replying to both Erik and Julia in a single message.
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Erik Reuter wrote
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 06:29:39PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
Your house is wired in parallel. Does removing one lightbulb in your
house make them all go out? No, of course not. That tells me that
there is something more complex going on with these lights.
I guess you missed my post
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On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 06:29:39PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
Your house
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:42:20PM -0400, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 06:29:39PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
Do the lamps plug in or screw in? If they plug in they likely have
a built in shunt resistor to provide continuity.
Plug in, as Julia described. And your
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Incidentally, I've definitely seen packs of bulbs labeled parallel
wiring
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:04:06PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
Like setting your house on fire, eh Erik?
Have you ever tried shorting out the smart DC transformers that come
with things like notebook computers? They don't set on fire, they don't
even get hot. There is a circuit inside that
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The reason I ask is that Rob's hypothesis (that the string is wired in
series
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On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:04:06PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
Like setting
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:20:12PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
Thinking further..the easy way to tell would be to look at each
individual socket. If it is parallel, you will have 4 wires at each socket.
hot in
hot out
neutral in
neutral out
or perhaps there is an inline tap point
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:25:06PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
But what manufacturer is going to go to such expense for an item such
as christmas lights which have little use the rest of the year.
(hence the occams razor comment)
These things are available as a single chip solid-state DC
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On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:25:06PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
But what
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:56:16PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
Which is what Christmas lights cost. I've obtained 100 light strings
for about $3-$4 retail. So, whatever goes into Christmas lights
really has to be cheap and cheerful.
The parallel ones I've seen cost about double that.
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On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:25:06PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
But what
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The reason I ask is that Rob's hypothesis (that the string is wired in
series
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:57:00PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
Sure Erik, but Christmas lights are AC and why would anyone use
That is absurd. Lights (i.e., incandescent light bulbs) are not AC. They
are resistive filaments. They will work DC or AC.
an expensive (relatively) powersupply to
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 08:13:52PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
http://home.howstuffworks.com/christmas-lights2.htm
Look for the picture with the shunt wire in the lamp.
Thanks for posting that link. Looks like you called it right. It is
good to know how things work! But I'm still going to
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On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:57:00PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
Sure Erik
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On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 08:13:52PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
http
Erik Reuter wrote:
By the way, that shunt is interesting. How do you suppose burning a
coating off of a wire actually DECREASES the resistance? The only
explanation I can come up with is that the coating insulates the wire
and keeps it hot, and a hot wire has a higher resistance.
I was assuming
Incidentally, on the next page of the link that you found,
http://home.howstuffworks.com/christmas-lights3.htm
The more sophisticated light sets now come with 16-function
controllers that can run the lights in all sorts of interesting
patterns. In these systems, you typically find a
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 09:18:35PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
During our back and forth challenges I hit upon something close to the
mark.
Yes, you did. :-)
The main reason I was skeptical was that for the first few messages
you seemed to completely ignore several things that had been
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Incidentally, on the next page of the link that you found,
http
On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 12:31:27PM +1000, Russell Chapman wrote:
Erik Reuter wrote:
By the way, that shunt is interesting. How do you suppose burning a
coating off of a wire actually DECREASES the resistance? The only
explanation I can come up with is that the coating insulates the wire
and
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 10:12:06PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
Have you seen the rice lights? Exquisite!
I don't think so, unless there is another name for them. What the heck
is a rice light?
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On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 10:12:06PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
Have you
Erik Reuter wrote:
Another interesting question. I can't think of any quick way to check
if your 240V bulbs are the same as our 120V ones. I assume yours look
like the picture of the 2.5V mini-bulbs in the link?
Even the packaging looks identical - they would all come out of the same
factory
At 10:44 AM 6/24/03 -0700, Chad Cooper wrote:
When I think of Christian values, I think of such things as
honesty,
charity, love for your fellow humans, not stealing, not
murdering, not
committing adultery (which by definition involves someone who
is married to
another and therefore damages
Starting over, I first need to make a correction. I used the word Liturgy
when I meant Parish. My bad.
The responses have been great, and I could spend hours replying back, but I
only want to say these few things.
In its most base form, I believe that a Christian is defined strictly as one
who
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
On the other hand... I have a tee shirt that has a
picture of Stonehenge and
says, Orthodox Druid on it. I like the shirt
because it's a joke -- there
is no such thing as orthodoxy among druids.
Orthodox druid is as much an
oxymoron
At 12:01 PM 6/25/03 -0700, Deborah Harrell wrote:
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
On the other hand... I have a tee shirt that has a
picture of Stonehenge and
says, Orthodox Druid on it. I like the shirt
because it's a joke -- there
is no such thing as orthodoxy among
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:27:26 -0500
At 12:01 PM 6/25/03 -0700, Deborah Harrell wrote:
--- Reggie
--- Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Starting over, I first need to make a correction. I used the word Liturgy
when I meant Parish. My bad.
The responses have been great, and I could spend hours replying back, but I
only want to say these few things.
In its most base form, I believe
On Wednesday, June 25, 2003, at 07:07 pm, Chad Cooper wrote:
In its most base form, I believe that a Christian is defined strictly
as one
who believes that Jesus was the Jewish Messiah, that he was crucified,
and
was resurrected. ANYTHING else is dogma, and subject to serious
disagreement.
I
Chad wrote:
My point overall, is that the term Christian Values can mean most
anything.
[snip]
However, in most every case I hear the term Christian Values it is in the
context that only those who have Christian Values are decent people, and
the rest of the population is contributing to the
Doug wrote:
Or a phenomenon that is beyond our understanding, but in fact has a logical
explanation?
Hypothetical situation: At some point in the future, God reveals
him/her/itself in an unambiguous, empirically testable way. If that is
going to eventually happen, then right now some
--- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Deborah Harrell wrote:
--- Reggie Bautista wrote:
lots of snippage
On the other hand... I have a tee shirt that
has a picture of Stonehenge and
says, Orthodox Druid on it
I gave a similar shirt to
In a message dated 6/25/2003 2:47:17 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
grin
They do have Solstice Parties, and they own LofR on
DVD; his wife (a fellow equestrienne, who in fact
introduced me to Darby and the neighborhood 'horsey
set') and I have organized Winter
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:11:41PM -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote:
Wait, if one bulb goes out, they all go out, no? How'd they do that?
Aren't those things linear circuits?
You mean wired in series. The cheapest ones are, and all of the older
ones I've seen. But in the past 5-10 years I've noticed
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:46:25 -0700 (PDT)
--- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Ronn
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 18:19:24 -0400
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:11:41PM -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote:
Wait
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
I've been quoting from the KJV primarily for the same reason that Julia
mentioned: because it's the one that's easiest for me to copy and paste
from, and because it is the version that most people are most familiar
with. Between dead-tree copies, CD-ROMs, and web
Jon Gabriel wrote:
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 18:19:24 -0400
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:11:41PM
Reggie Bautista wrote:
Doug wrote:
Or a phenomenon that is beyond our understanding, but in fact has a
logical explanation?
Hypothetical situation: At some point in the future, God reveals
him/her/itself in an unambiguous, empirically testable way. If that is
going to eventually happen,
Doug Pensinger wrote:
...
I am curious. How do you know it wasn't Satan?
Or a phenomenon that is beyond our understanding, but in fact has a
logical explanation?
Why is something you cannot explain automatically attributable to a deity?
Cuz Satan Rulz, dude! Any silly
When I think of Christian values, I think of such things as
honesty,
charity, love for your fellow humans, not stealing, not
murdering, not
committing adultery (which by definition involves someone who
is married to
another and therefore damages that family, which may include innocent
Doug Pensinger wrote:
...
I am curious. How do you know it wasn't Satan?
Or a phenomenon that is beyond our understanding, but in fact has a
logical explanation?
Why is something you cannot explain automatically attributable to a
deity?
Thats it. If you can't tell
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As you can see, Christian values place God above all, then fellow man.
The
individual
I'd be very curious to see your interpretation of the parable
of the good
Samaritan, then. :-) You do know that was the answer to who is my
neighbor? , right?
You help me illustrate my point that it is difficult to be a good Christian,
when it is not clear what is most important. The
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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As you can see, Christian values place
--- Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd be very curious to see your interpretation of the parable
of the good
Samaritan, then. :-) You do know that was the answer to who is my
neighbor? , right?
You help me illustrate my point that it is difficult to be a good
Christian,
when
Chad wrote:
Here is the list of values I do not agree with:
First let me say that many of the values you list as Christian are not
universally held Christian values. You'll find that some Christians might
have these values, and some might not. I'll give more details as I address
each of the
On 24 Jun 2003 at 16:50, Reggie Bautista wrote:
The only true justice is Christian justice (eye for an eye).
As I stated in a previous email, Christian justice is not an eye for
an eye.
That's JEWISH Justice (an eye for an eye). The punishment SHOULD fir
the crime. That's not saying that
Reggie Bautista wrote:
Chad wrote:
Justice
Christian - Commutative Justice (Eye for an Eye)
This bit is absolutely incorrect. Matthew chapter 5, verses 38-40:
You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I
tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 07:07 PM 6/22/03 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 06:02:27PM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
To which I have to respond that if anyone had witnessed and
experienced what I have witnessed and experienced, the only logical
At 07:37 PM 6/22/03 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 06:28:11PM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
those events, you have nothing but my word on them. If you wish to
find out whether or not I am telling the truth on this matter, you
will have to find out on your own.
Nonsense.
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 05:06:42AM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
A possible experimental protocol which suggests itself, then: after
an occasion when I think I have received such knowledge again, I'll
e-mail you and then you'll fly out here and follow me around until it
either happens or
At 06:15 AM 6/23/03 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 05:06:42AM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
A possible experimental protocol which suggests itself, then: after
an occasion when I think I have received such knowledge again, I'll
e-mail you and then you'll fly out here and
I thought I was pretty clear, but I'll repeat it again: post the
prediction, then we can decide how to check it.
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At 12:33 AM 6/23/03 -0700, Jan Coffey wrote:
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 07:07 PM 6/22/03 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 06:02:27PM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
To which I have to respond that if anyone had witnessed and
experienced what I have
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you wish
to
find out whether or not I am telling the truth on this matter, you will
have to find out on your own.
I am curious. How do you know it wasn't Satan?
A very good question.
(Matthew 7:15-20)
My point was, how can
Jan Coffey wrote:
Atheists tend to be a rather logical lot (whether you agree with their logic
is another matter) and when they perceive a religious person (especial one
who is an intellectual or a scientist) having such illogical beliefs it can
get quite annoying. Like if a stanch Christian
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Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 6:12 AM
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Erik Reuter asked:
Alberto! Where you been? :-)
Rio de Janeiro
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Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 7:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism
Can somebody help me out here?
I posted on this last week. A big long speech on why Athiest and
So what are your thoughts on Christians who believe that
manger scenes and
the ten commandments have no place in or on government-owned
facilities?
My thoughts? It is VERY insulting to the Bahai, Moslems, Buddhists, Hindu,
Jews, and Taoists ( as well as Atheists, but who cares about
Actually, a friend of mine ended up involved with a so-called
Christian
cult which believed in exactly that as a form of missionary work.
Sign me up!
Nerd From Hell
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At 09:04 AM 6/23/03 -0700, Chad Cooper wrote:
Athiests view the world as a not-so-nice place _because_ of religion. I
personally do not agree with most Christian values.
When I think of Christian values, I think of such things as honesty,
charity, love for your fellow humans, not stealing,
Why don't you share with us the mannor in which you verify
that it is God and
not Satan?
At least this would give us a place to start.
Most all religious canon has specific statements on how to determine this.
Each one is different from the rest. Most all of them encourages people to
--- Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So what are your thoughts on Christians who believe that
manger scenes and
the ten commandments have no place in or on government-owned
facilities?
My thoughts? It is VERY insulting to the Bahai, Moslems, Buddhists, Hindu,
Jews, and
I wrote:
So what are your thoughts on Christians who believe that
manger scenes and
the ten commandments have no place in or on government-owned
facilities?
Chad responded:
My thoughts? It is VERY insulting to the Bahai, Moslems, Buddhists, Hindu,
Jews, and Taoists ( as well as Atheists, but
Jan Coffey wrote:
I am curious. How do you know it wasn't Satan?
Or a phenomenon that is beyond our understanding, but in fact has a
logical explanation?
Why is something you cannot explain automatically attributable to a deity?
Doug
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From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can somebody help me out here?
It seems that there are two basic types of people, albeit with some
gradations, and hence, two types of Brin-L'ers. These people are
essentially those who believe in God, and
Alberto! Where you been? :-)
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On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 10:10:28PM -0400, John D. Giorgis wrote:
Yet, it seems that people who believe in God, at least on Brin-L,
seem perfectly capable of discussing non-belief in God in a calm and
civilized manner.
I only saw 2 non-calm people. Fool, who seems to get really carried
away.
* John D. Giorgis [Sat, 21/06/2003 at 22:10 -0400]
Can somebody help me out here?
It seems that there are two basic types of people, albeit with some
gradations, and hence, two types of Brin-L'ers. These people are
essentially those who believe in God, and those who do not.
I don't think
John D. Giorgis wrote:
Why is this?
Some devout atheists get impatient and angry. Same as devout believers
or agnostics or don't-cares.
Is it some inherent correlation with non-belief in God that
causes one to
react like a Neanderthal against those who profess a belief
in God?
No
Erik Reuter asked:
Alberto! Where you been? :-)
Rio de Janeiro
Alberto Monteiro, the neo-humour-challenged
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Erik Reuter asked:
Alberto! Where you been? :-)
Alberto helpfully replied:
Rio de Janeiro
Alberto Monteiro, the neo-humour-challenged
Well, it's good to see you making an appearance back here in virtual-land!
Reggie Bautista
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Kevin wrote:
But I argue for religious tolerance, which most anti-religious people lack.
A plaque on a wall isn't going to hurt me. A manger scene on the town
square doesn't send me into fits. I don't care. Heck, it brings happiness
to people, then let it be. This world can use more happiness.
--- John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can somebody help me out here?
Yet, it seems that people who believe in God, at least on Brin-L, seem
perfectly capable of discussing non-belief in God in a calm and civilized
manner.
In contrast, the people who do not believe in God, or at
At 12:36 PM 6/22/03 -0700, Jan Coffey wrote:
Atheists tend to be a rather logical lot (whether you agree with their logic
is another matter) and when they perceive a religious person (especial one
who is an intellectual or a scientist) having such illogical beliefs it can
get quite annoying.
To
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 06:02:27PM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
To which I have to respond that if anyone had witnessed and
experienced what I have witnessed and experienced, the only logical
result would be to believe.
Of course not.
At 07:07 PM 6/22/03 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 06:02:27PM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
To which I have to respond that if anyone had witnessed and
experienced what I have witnessed and experienced, the only logical
result would be to believe.
Of course not. The
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 06:28:11PM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
those events, you have nothing but my word on them. If you wish to
find out whether or not I am telling the truth on this matter, you
will have to find out on your own.
Nonsense. You are describing something absurd. If you
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In a message dated 6/21/2003 7:46:28 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Add to that another bit for those that can count, and those that can't,
and you have 42 types of people
Alberto Monteiro
Don't Panic
William Taylor
On 21 Jun 2003 at 21:33, Michael Harney wrote:
As for religious people willing to discuss non-belief in God, I would
argue that is an anomoly due to insufficient sample. I have met
zealots in my lifetime who think that if someone is an athiest it is a
deep personal insult and the athiest
JDG wrote:
It seems that there are two basic types of people, albeit with some
gradations, and hence, two types of Brin-L'ers. These people are
essentially those who believe in God, and those who do not.
No, there are four basic types of people. Add another bit: those
that can discuss their
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can somebody help me out here?
It seems that there are two basic types of people, albeit with some
gradations, and hence, two types of Brin-L'ers. These people are
essentially those who believe in God, and those who do not.
Yet, it seems that
In a message dated 6/21/2003 7:46:28 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Add to that another bit for those that can count, and those that can't,
and you have 42 types of people
Alberto Monteiro
Don't Panic
William Taylor
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And now we know the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 6/21/2003 7:12:11 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Is it some inherent correlation with non-belief in God that causes one to
react like a Neanderthal against those who profess a belief in God?
How dare you say
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