WALL STREET JOURNAL
DECEMBER 10, 2010, 3:19 P.M. ET
Brazil President Pledges Solidarity with WikiLeaks
By JEFF FICK
RIO DE JANEIRO--Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva offered
his support to embattled WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange on
Thursday, pointing the finger of blame directly
Given the name of this list, it surprises me that there has not been
more discussion about recent events.
Keith
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What's to discuss? The bloke committed treason.
(Against a country he's not a citizen of, and merely be being in charge of an
organisation that receives and publishes material provided by whistleblowers,
which is mostly checked and redacted for personal or currently sensitive
details... but
Leaked U.S. cables, following Lula de Silva's eight years as president of
Brazil, show him cooperating with Washington and double-crossing fellow
leftists.
Jon Louis Mann wrote:
Leaked U.S. cables, following Lula de Silva's eight years as
president of Brazil, show him cooperating with Washington and
double-crossing fellow leftists.
Double-crossing is an exageration...
Brazilian president-elect Dilma Rousseff is an economist, former
Dan Minette wrote:
All the billions that g*vernments invest all the
time to make mothers breastfeed, and those sociopaths
and perverts create a Social Network that criminalizes
it. They should be exiled to Antarctica.
Actually, it doesn't, Alberto. Facebook is free, last time I
looked.
Or maybe it's everyone and their dog trying to
access their new Facebook profile page: (...)
Why do people join Facebook, when it's owned
by sociopaths and perverts?
Alberto Monteiro
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On Dec 7, 2010, at 3:44 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Or maybe it's everyone and their dog trying to
access their new Facebook profile page: (...)
Why do people join Facebook, when it's owned
by sociopaths and perverts?
Well, of course the sociopaths and perverts to which
you refer are not
Dave Land wrote:
Why do people join Facebook, when it's owned
by sociopaths and perverts?
Well, of course the sociopaths and perverts to which
you refer are not on my friends list, so they don't
have any meaningful impact on my Facebook experience.
I mean own in the sense of ownership,
On Dec 7, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Dave Land wrote:
Why do people join Facebook, when it's owned
by sociopaths and perverts?
Well, of course the sociopaths and perverts to which you refer are
not
on my friends list, so they don't have any meaningful impact on my
On Dec 7, 2010, at 5:44 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Why do people join Facebook, when it's owned
by sociopaths and perverts?
and then wrote:
It's not the people that join that are sociopaths
and perverts, it's the people that control the site
that are sociopaths and perverts.
Only a
Bruce Bostwick wrote:
It's not the people that join that are sociopaths
and perverts, it's the people that control the site
that are sociopaths and perverts.
Only a sociopath and pervert can think that
breastfeeding is pornography. It's disrespectful
to breastfeeding (and to pornography
Only a sociopath and pervert can think that
breastfeeding is pornography. It's disrespectful
to breastfeeding (and to pornography too, but wfc?)
All the billions that g*vernments invest all the
time to make mothers breastfeed, and those sociopaths
and perverts create a Social Network that
A business decision that injures public health.
On Dec 7, 2010 3:15 PM, Dan Minette danmine...@att.net wrote:
Only a sociopath and pervert can think that
breastfeeding is pornography. It's disrespectful
to...
Actually, it doesn't, Alberto. Facebook is free, last time I looked. I can
choose to
A business decision that injures public health.
Were facebook the internet, you might have something. But, I just typed
breastfeeding videos into google, and got a zillion hits, checked the first
one, and found a site with over a score of videos. Some had nothing to do
with public health;
Ultimately, these sorts of issues are due to insufficient diversity.
As long as there is a majority (or perhaps even a large uniform
minority) who believe something strongly, there will be businesses or
government policies that cater to this majority. Whether government
representative or business
On Dec 7, 2010, at 4:25 PM, trent shipley wrote:
On Dec 7, 2010 3:15 PM, Dan Minette danmine...@att.net wrote:
Only a sociopath and pervert can think that
breastfeeding is pornography. It's disrespectful
to...
Actually, it doesn't, Alberto. Facebook is free, last time I
looked. I can
On 06/12/2010, at 8:46 AM, Nick Arnett wrote:
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:29 PM, trent shipley trent.ship...@gmail.com wrote:
How many secrets does Australia have that are worth leaking. Does a
significant fraction of the World's population believe it is The Great Satan?
Reminds me of
On 02/12/2010, at 10:29 AM, trent shipley wrote:
How many secrets does Australia have that are worth leaking. Does a
significant fraction of the World's population believe it is The Great Satan?
They released the list of blacklisted domains that was itself secret... stupid
policy.
Nick Arnett wrote:
How many secrets does Australia have that are worth leaking.
Does a significant fraction of the World's population believe
it is The Great Satan?
Reminds me of the story of the lady who was applying for a visa
to enter Australia. When the clerk asked her if she had a
On 06/12/2010, at 10:39 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Nick Arnett wrote:
How many secrets does Australia have that are worth leaking.
Does a significant fraction of the World's population believe
it is The Great Satan?
Reminds me of the story of the lady who was applying for a visa
to
FWIW:
WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is threatening to go nuclear if
he is killed or arrested, releasing a poison pill of secret
documents even more devastating than the ones that already have
sparked diplomatic chaos around the globe, according to the British
tabloid The Daily Mail
Is someone running a DDoS attack on Wikileaks tonight (US time)? I'm
getting a lot more slow and dropped connections on the Web tonight
than usual, so I wondered if it's all over the Net or just here . . .
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At 08:06 PM Monday 12/6/2010, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
Is someone running a DDoS attack on Wikileaks
tonight (US time)? I'm getting a lot more slow
and dropped connections on the Web tonight than
usual, so I wondered if it's all over the Net or just here . . .
Or maybe it's everyone
The Manhattan Project was spied on by the Soviets.
On Dec 1, 2010 4:18 AM, Alberto Monteiro albm...@centroin.com.br wrote:
Doug Pensinger wrote:
I'm generally for transparency and haven't heard of anything yet that
...
I think the worst source of embarassment is the use by .govs
of
Wikileaks in the US.
From the comments I have read on newspaper articles about Wikileaks here in
Australia, I would think a majority of people here (maybe about 75%) are
supportive.
Personally, I think there is good and bad in what Julian Assange and his
team are doing, but that the good
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:29 PM, trent shipley trent.ship...@gmail.comwrote:
How many secrets does Australia have that are worth leaking. Does a
significant fraction of the World's population believe it is The Great
Satan?
Reminds me of the story of the lady who was applying for a visa to
Where are the docs to prove that Soylent
Green is really people?
-- Matt
The film leaked it all, Matt!~)
...there is overwhelming sentiment against .
Wikileaks in the US
Wayne Eddy.
There seems to be overwhelming sentiment
against Wikileaks' release
I was wondering how people
On Dec 2, 2010, at 7:51 AM, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
Having consensual sex in Sweden without a condom is punishable by a
term of imprisonment of a minimum of two years for rape.
That strikes me as very strange indeed. is there more to that law
than that? Does this apply only to extramarital
They teach you in the military that
there are such things as illegal orders.
I would argue that there should also be
illegal secrecy. Keeping a war crime a
secret would qualify.
Doug
Precisely. If that argument is not successfully
made in his defence, then the USA is further
down
On 01/12/2010, at 3:51 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote:
There seems to be overwhelming sentiment against Wikileaks' release of
confidential documents and I was wondering how people here (some of
whom may have read Brin's Transparent Society) felt about it.
Judging by how they do it - letting
Doug Pensinger wrote:
I'm generally for transparency and haven't heard of anything yet that
is beyond mildly embarrassing to the U. S. government. I do think
where the safety of our troops is concerned confidentially is
important, but that government secrets should have a relatively short
What if this happened
70 years ago and Manhattan Project was leaked to the nazis
(or even the soviets)?
It was leaked to the Soviets. While Joe McCarthy was able to find 100%
of the communist activists working for the Soviet Union in the United States
(names kept in his locked briefcase),
It is interesting to hear that there is overwhelming sentiment against
Wikileaks in the US.
From the comments I have read on newspaper articles about Wikileaks here in
Australia, I would think a majority of people here (maybe about 75%) are
supportive.
Personally, I think there is good and bad
not able to safeguard their dirty laundry sufficiently...
Damon.
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Wayne Eddy darkenf...@gmail.com wrote:
It is interesting to hear that there is overwhelming sentiment against
Wikileaks in the US.
From the comments I have read on newspaper articles about Wikileaks
I'm generally for transparency and haven't heard of anything yet that
is beyond mildly embarrassing to the U. S. government. I do think
where the safety of our troops is concerned confidentially is
important, but that government secrets should have a relatively short
shelf life in all cases.
.
-- Matt
From: Wayne Eddy darkenf...@gmail.com
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 12:12:23 PM
Subject: Re: Wikileaks
It is interesting to hear that there is overwhelming sentiment against
Wikileaks
.
23-year-old, Bradley Manning, a US army
intelligence analyst, e-mailed former hacker,
Adrian Lamo, bragging that he leaked the
diplomatic cables to WikiLeaks, along with a
highly classified video of U.S. forces killing
unarmed civilians in Baghdad. He is currently
being held and charged
Jon wrote:
Anyone with clearance to that level is
personally responsible and signed an oath.
23-year-old, Bradley Manning, a US army
intelligence analyst, e-mailed former hacker,
Adrian Lamo, bragging that he leaked the
diplomatic cables to WikiLeaks, along with a
highly classified video
to WikiLeaks, along with a
highly classified video of U.S. forces killing
unarmed civilians in Baghdad. He is currently
being held and charged with transferring
classified national defense information to an
unauthorized source. He faces court martial
and up to 52 years in prison.
Jon Mann
There seems to be overwhelming sentiment against Wikileaks' release of
confidential documents and I was wondering how people here (some of
whom may have read Brin's Transparent Society) felt about it.
I'm generally for transparency and haven't heard of anything yet that
is beyond mildly
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