http://www.slweekly.com/editorial/2003/feat_2003-02-27.cfm
Pushing the Apocalypse How fundamentalists see scripture -- and
politics-- on schedule for the end of the world.
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http://www.suntimes.com/output/eb-feature/cst-edt-ebert05.html
Public prayer fanatics borrow page from enemy's script
March 5, 2003
BY ROGER EBERT
The Bush administration has been dealt a setback in its campaign to allow
prayer in our public schools. The full 9th Circuit U.S. Court of
http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s801530.htm
Suicide bombers made, not born: scientist
Friday, 7 March 2003
Dr Scott Atran: suicide bombers are not a poor, uneducated rabble but
manipulated, he says (Pic: University of Michigan)
Suicide bombers are not poor and uneducated
At 07:17 7-3-2003 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
I'm sure the French were quite grateful for being liberated by (among
other countries) the US. However, you seem to believe that because the
US took part in the liberation of France over fifty years ago, the
French should forever accept and
At 22:44 7-3-2003 +0100, I wrote:
And I have absolutely no intention whatsoever of starting a flame war.
Other people on this list have also made comments about the erosion of
civil rights/liberties in the US, and have mentioned that the US is on
its way to becoming a police state. Do you believe
At 18:16 7-3-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote:
As for the security of the people of Israel, I think the IDF is quite
capable of defending Israel -- as is proven by the fact that, despite
several wars, the state of Israel still exists today.
Jeroen, have you ever been to Israel?
No -- and I am not
At 22:38 7-3-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote:
Posted on Thu, Feb. 20, 2003
Cheese-eating surrender monkeys, eh?
By Molly Ivins
Creators Syndicate
snipped article
Excellent article. Three cheers and a round of applause for Molly Ivins!
Jeroen van Baardwijk -- playing the MP3 version of Le
Jeroen said:
If we acted in such a way, Jeroen, then you, right now, would be
living in part of the American empire.
To an extent, I already am.
In no sense are you.
In random order:
1. American fast-food restaurants are all over the place here.
This is because random citizens of the
At 22:17 7-3-2003 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
G. D. Akin wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
There was a short-lived movement to replace the GOTO with a new
statement, COMEFROM, but for some reason it never caught on . . .
I have a copy of the COMEFROM article somewhere. If I can find it,
At 23:18 7-3-2003 -0500, John Giorgis wrote:
As for the security of the people of Israel, I think the IDF is quite
capable of defending Israel -- as is proven by the fact that, despite
several wars, the state of Israel still exists today.
Tell that to the kids on the bus.
John, horrible as it may
At 22:34 7-3-2003 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
And if you can't understand the difference between the two types of
resolution when it's spelled out for you for the third time,
Until a few days ago I didn't even know there were two types of resolution.
I can assure you that I do understand the
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 09:51:14AM +, Richard Baker wrote:
http://www.theculture.org/rich/sharpblue/archives/31.html
In ten to fifteen years, though, things will be very different, and
then I expect the other European states to suddenly decide to play
a much more active and positive
On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 02:31 am, G. D. Akin wrote:
Lalith Vipulananthan
_Perdido Street Station_ is a steampunk fantasy (a term coined by John
Clute) and has a brilliantly imagined setting in the city of New
Crobuzon.
My review of it is below. If you want the short version, a member of
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 12:12 PM 3/6/2003 -0600 The Fool wrote:
For example, if I wore a T-Shirt bearing the slogan Abortion is
Muder
in
bright red letters, and the mall authorities asked me to remove my
shirt, I
don't think that either you nor The Fool would be
On 8 Mar 2003 at 3:24, The Fool wrote:
http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s801530.htm
Suicide bombers made, not born: scientist
Friday, 7 March 2003
Dr Scott Atran: suicide bombers are not a poor, uneducated rabble but
manipulated, he says (Pic: University of Michigan)
No shit
In a message dated 3/8/2003 6:47:10 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You are the only one making ad hominims here.
But he's not alone. Our good Dr. Brin has been trying to sell more greens,
reds, greys, and ivories in his nov
oh, excuse me.
That's an ad
At 08:36 AM 3/6/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Not that I am a habitual Ephedra user, but I have taken it in the past
(in dietary supplements) so I am aware of the risks and effects.
New York County Bans Sale of Ephedra
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Living/ap20030305_2037.html
Quote from the article.
Erik said:
You made an excellent case for the UK developing capabilities to
project power, but you didn't give any evidence that the rest of
Europe was doing so, which makes this last statement look like a big
leap to me. Since you said it takes a long time to develop such
capabilities, then
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 10:22:34AM -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
What I admire about the Covenant books was that I enjoyed them a great
deal despite how much I disliked their protagonist. I frankly find
Thomas Covenant to be one of the most unlikable main characters in
Fantasy/SF literature.
The Fool..
http://www.slweekly.com/editorial/2003/feat_2003-02-27.cfm
Pushing the Apocalypse How fundamentalists see scripture -- and
politics-- on schedule for the end of the world.
This was an excellent article.
I especially like the position of the Reverend from the Episcopal
I really, really like Stargate SG-1, but it is really starting to annoy
me that every alien race that they meet knows English - but they all
have alien type writing. I realize that the back story is that all of
the humans in the galaxy have common origins because of the Goa'uld, but
I think the
In what could be positive news for sci-fi fans, Vivendi Universal is
trying
to entice Viacom, NBC, MGM and others to buy Sci Fi channel, the USA
Network, and other assets.
http://www.nydailynews.com/business/col/story/64757p-60335c.html
Something tells me a sign of impending death was
From: Gary L. Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I really, really like Stargate SG-1, but it is really starting to annoy
me that every alien race that they meet knows English - but they all
have alien type writing. I realize that the back story is that all of
the humans in the galaxy have common
Gary L. Nunn wrote:
I really, really like Stargate SG-1, but it is really starting to annoy
me that every alien race that they meet knows English - but they all
have alien type writing. I realize that the back story is that all of
the humans in the galaxy have common origins because of the
Here's an article discussing another article from the Financial Analysts
Journal (I haven't read that one, it costs $175/yr to subscribe!)
But the subject is interesting, and Morningstar usually does a good
job. It is about dividends vs. reinvested earnings, comparing growth in
earnings and GDP.
http://news.com.com/2100-1039-991409.html
EarthLink calls the cops
By Ben Charny
Staff Writer, CNET News.com.com.com.com.com
March 6, 2003, 12:13 PM PT
EarthLink said Wednesday that it has a new strategy for its wireless
division: selling to law enforcement and other emergency-services
Yes, I've been watching the Stargate series too, taping
4 episodes a Monday from SciFi. Although I'm about two months
behind in actually watching them at the moment.
It bugs me too, but the alternative would be to have
Daniel/Jonas do all the talking, translating for O'Neil
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_758098.html
Aussie city wants to 'defect' to France
An Australian city wants to defect to France in protest at their
Government's stance on Iraq.
Wollongong in New South Wales is to make an appeal to the Consul General
of France.
Local politicians have joined
On Tue Mar 4 21:03:04 PST 2003, J. van Baardwijk wrote:
At 23:04 3-3-2003 +, Jose Ortiz wrote:
From: William T Goodall
[...snip...]
Genghis Khan, super-stud: One in every 200 men alive today is a
relative
[...snip...]
[...snip...]
Speaking of which, I've felt an uncontrollable
Gary L. Nunn wrote:
I really, really like Stargate SG-1, but it is really starting to annoy
me that every alien race that they meet knows English - (...)
But they are *not* speaking English. They are speaking Rigellian,
which, by coincidence, is identical to English
Alberto Monteiro
Gautam said:
1. I think you're underestimating the qualitative superiority of
American forces. Partly this is because of systemic effects.
This is, of course, much harder to judge, especially when comparing
systems that are mature against ones that are just entering service or
will do soon.
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Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 07:07 AM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: Stargate SG-1
From: Gary L. Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I really, really like Stargate SG-1, but it is really starting to
annoy me
On 8 Mar 2003 at 13:12, The Fool wrote:
http://news.com.com/2100-1039-991409.html
EarthLink calls the cops
Good for them.
Each and every one should come with a GPS locator as well, so no one
can borrow one off-duty, mind you.
But I can definitely see knowing who's supposed to be in a
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
Behalf Of The Fool
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 3:00 PM
To: Brin-L
Subject: Aussie city wants to 'defect' to France
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_758098.html
Aussie city wants to 'defect' to France
An Australian city wants
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030307-093444-9730r
The president of a California college is sending a letter to President Bush
apologizing for an instructor who gave students extra credit for writing
anti-war missives to the White House.
Citrus College President Louis E. Zellers wrote that
William T Goodall wrote:
I'm guessing you didn't (wouldn't) like Thomas M Disch's _The
Genocides_ either then ?
Don't know--never read him, though my next non-novel to read is his The
Dreams Our Stuff Is Made Of.
BTW, just wrapping up James Gunn's Isaac Asimov: The Foundations of Science
From: Jim Sharkey wrote:
What I admire about the Covenant books was that I enjoyed them a great
deal despite how much I disliked their protagonist. I frankly find Thomas
Covenant to be one of the most unlikable main characters in Fantasy/SF
literature. Sure, he makes the right decisions in the
--- John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
But there is a subset of the war option:
essentially
unilateral US war, or UN-sanctioned military
action/war
(with the US of course being the major player)...
I snipped a teeny bit here Reasons include physical
support by
At 05:41 PM 3/8/2003 -0600, you wrote:
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030307-093444-9730r
FIRE's Chief Executive Officer, Thor L. Halvorssen, praised the school.
When fully informed of a frightening violation of freedom of conscience,
the college administration responded swiftly and boldly
I also don't like Stephen got my thesaurus right beside me Donaldson. I'm
fairly well educated, but when I read for pleasure, I don't want to have to
have a thesaurus right there. About three pages into the first book, I was
reminded of Margaret Meade in her Growing Up in New Guinea saying that
On Sunday, March 9, 2003, at 12:17 am, G. D. Akin wrote:
I also don't like Stephen got my thesaurus right beside me
Donaldson. I'm
fairly well educated, but when I read for pleasure, I don't want to
have to
have a thesaurus right there.
Much fun has been had at the expense of Donaldson over
From: G. D. Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
William T Goodall wrote:
BTW, just wrapping up James Gunn's Isaac Asimov: The Foundations of
Science
Fiction. This is a great read for any Asimov fan.
George A
If you're an Asimov fan, I ask: what did you (or anyone in our audience)
think of Asimov's Magic:
William T Goodall wrote:
I quite enjoyed the first two trilogies, but haven't reread them since
they were published. Which was probably quite a while ago now...
I read them as they were being published and liked them then. I re-read
LFB some years ago and wasn't as impressed as the first
Hi Brinellers.
It's been a while since I've put out a call to the Brin Irregulars.
But this seems a worthy topic for discussion, whether or not I seek
the services of a high powered Hollywood lawyer.
I just saw a TV ad for this new movie THE CORE. And I'm afraid I now
see more similarities
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 05:39:15PM -0800, d.brin wrote:
So let's discuss it. Do any of you have access to more information
about this awful thing? A web site? A list of the producers? Plot
summaries?
The website is
http://www.thecoremovie.com/
(I got it on my first guess, it seems
Good evening Dr. Brin,
Well, imdb has this info.
I'll post more as I find it
Jon
http://us.imdb.com/Details?0298814
Core, The (2003)
Page 1 of 22
Directed by
Jon Amiel
Writing credits
Cooper Layne
John Rogers (X)
Tagline: Earth has a deadline (more)
Plot Summary: Scientists
I have no idea if the numbers quoted here are accurate, but if the are
it might be enough to give one pause before taking rash action.
http://www.thepowerhour.com/iraq/gulf-war-II-2-casualties.htm
SINCE THE CESSATION OF GULF WAR HOSTILITIES IN 1991; AN ADDITIONAL 8013
VETERANS HAVE DIED FROM
So let's discuss it. Do any of you have access to more information
about this awful thing? A web site? A list of the producers? Plot
summaries?
Here is the Internet Movie database (IMDB) entry for the movie:
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0298814
The comments made by those that have seen
Also, I am currently in the beginning stages of an onlist
analysis/review of Earth and will skim, note and post relevant pages
as I find them.
More web-based info on The Core:
Yahoo: http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hvcf=infoid=1807859491intl=us
The Core (2003)
Science Fiction/Fantasy,
On Friday, March 07, 2003 2:54 PM, Jon Gabriel wrote:
From: Han Tacoma
Subject: L3 Another breed of international criminals: Patients
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:15:23 -0500
An article that appeared in The Boston Globe,
while it seems to have come to my attention with title and date different
In a message dated 3/8/2003 6:41:42 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I just saw a TV ad for this new movie THE CORE. And I'm afraid I now
see more similarities with EARTH than I did the first time a synopsis
came out.
I know nothing other than that a space shuttle
Ok, folks, but unless you put the brin: in the subject line,
He will *not* read the replies I suggest reposting everything with
the brin: in the subject line
Alberto Monteiro
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Ok, folks, but unless you put the brin: in the subject line,
He will *not* read the replies I suggest reposting
everything with the brin: in the subject line
Alberto Monteiro
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On Behalf Of Gary L. Nunn
Sent:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
Behalf Of Alberto Monteiro
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 10:04 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: a call to the irregulars!
Ok, folks, but unless you put the brin: in the subject line,
He will *not* read the replies I suggest
At least one book contains the singularity at the center of the Earth'
concept as well. (Well, he didn't call it that)
Greg Bear's Forge of God. (1987)
Jon
I am not Kirk, Spock, Luke, Buck, Flash or Arthur frelling Dent.
I'm Dorothy Gale from Kansas. ~John Crichton / Farscape
In a message dated 3/8/2003 8:13:51 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ok, folks, but unless you put the brin: in the subject line,
He will *not* read the replies I suggest reposting
everything with the brin: in the subject line
Alberto Monteiro
I would
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 10:21:54PM -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote:
At least one book contains the singularity at the center of the Earth'
concept as well. (Well, he didn't call it that)
Greg Bear's Forge of God. (1987)
And I always thought there were a lot of similarities between _The
Left
In a message dated 3/8/2003 8:41:18 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But I never thought there was anything wrong with those
similarities. Certainly nothing worth complaining about. Good ideas have
a way of repeating themselves...
And any good idea can turn into a
And any good idea can turn into a bad idea when Hollywood
gets a hold of it.
William Taylor
Especially when it is a Costner project :-)
Gary
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This is frustrating. I've found you can apply that argument against
many, many actions the govenment does. How do you defend against
people using this argument without seeming calloused, uncaring, and
mean-spirited? How do I convince my wife the space program is
worth the money even though
Jeffrey Miller-
How was it? I've been avoiding Brin lately (gasp!) as the last 2 I read,
Sundiver and Practice Effect, I found to be.. well, not my favorite books
ever. Not bad, per se, just not so great. Hearing what little I have about
KP, I'm worried its an Saturday Night Live book -
Folks on Brin-L,
Reply to this message or add Brin: to the subject of this thread, or David
won't see your messages. (David, I'll forward you those that miss this.)
Nick
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I'll forward them... but thanks for the reminder.
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Subject:
While we're at it, here's a query from a friend of mine.
Dear Dave,
Do you remember the Arthur C. Clarke story about skydiving from
space that is written as if it's an emergency, and then it turns out
to just be a new form of competitive skydiving? Rick Tumlinson would
love to have the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Who is we?. These posts look at opposite ends of the same continuum. Can
the person who has no food look forward/upward to space? If Maslow's
heirarchy is to be believed, basic needs (food, shelter) have to be met
before higher level goal setting. It is easy for me
At 03:24 AM 3/8/03 -0600, The Fool wrote:
Atran believes a better psychological approach would be to sideline the
extremists. I think the United States and its allies should try to
empower moderates from within the community, he said. Helping achieve an
equitable solution between Israel and the
http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/news/page.cfm?objectid=12715943method=fu
llsiteid=106694
TERRIFIED Iraqi soldiers have crossed the Kuwait border and tried to
surrender to British forces - because they thought the war had already
started.
The motley band of a dozen troops waved the white flag
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