Re: Question about Spoilers

2003-03-15 Thread G. D. Akin
Kevin Tarr wrote: I also don't like Stephen got my thesaurus right beside me Donaldson. I'm fairly well educated, but when I read for pleasure, I don't want to have to have a thesaurus right there. About three pages into the first book, I was reminded of Margaret Meade in her Growing Up in

Re: Book Suggestions: The Best of Current SciFi?

2003-03-15 Thread G. D. Akin
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: If you're an Asimov fan, I ask: what did you (or anyone in our audience) think of Asimov's Magic: The Final Fantasy Collection? I liked it, but I recently gave it to a friend who wanted to read it, and she told me she found it disappointing. I don't know why. Big

Re: Thomas Covenant (was RE: Question about Spoilers)

2003-03-15 Thread G. D. Akin
- Original Message - From: Lalith Vipulananthan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 9:51 PM Subject: Thomas Covenant (was RE: Question about Spoilers) George wrote: Lalith Vipulananthan asked: Just out of interest, how old

Re: Replacing the UN Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-15 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 18:28 14-03-03 -0500, Bryon Daly wrote: Although I really prefer to go for the third option: an improved UN where each country has one vote, where no country has veto power so that no country can force its will upon others, and where all decisions are made by all members, not a small

Re: Tropical US Politics [Was Re: br!n: Re: a call to the irregulars!]

2003-03-15 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 03:01 15-03-03 +, Jose Ortiz wrote: First of all, let me state for the record that our national pastime is just that: politics. We eat/breathe politics 24/7. Sounds like a wonderful place for Gautam to live... :-) We have under the umbrella of both our constitution and the US

Re: Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-15 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 21:26 14-03-03 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: I do however think that keeping the pressure on high, while conducting further peacefull inspections is probably the best bet for improvement in the region. Then again I don't see how the US will be prevented from going for the price... oops I mean ...

Re: Re: Commentary on French-bashing

2003-03-15 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 21:44 14-03-03 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: If France can prevent the war from happening, than it *has* effectively protected American soldiers. After all, when there is no war, the risk to a soldier's life is significantly less than when that soldier goes into combat.

Re: Re: Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-15 Thread jdgiorgis
---Original Message--- From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah, so? There were plenty of voices saying that war was a bad idea. The Bush regime decided to ignore those voices and set the stage for war anyway. If the Bush regime is foolish enough to ignore good advice, it shouldn't

Re: Re: Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-15 Thread jdgiorgis
---Original Message--- From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah, so? There were plenty of voices saying that war was a bad idea. The Bush regime decided to ignore those voices and set the stage for war anyway. If the Bush regime is foolish enough to ignore good advice, it shouldn't

Re: Replacing the UN

2003-03-15 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Bryon Daly wrote: OTOH, I'm not sure a purely population-based voting power would be fair either. Perhaps some measure based on a combination of population, democratic representation, monetary dues paid, economic power and perhaps even land size and/or resources might be more fair, but maybe

Re: Re: Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-15 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 06:05 15-03-03 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: Yeah, so? There were plenty of voices saying that war was a bad idea. The Bush regime decided to ignore those voices and set the stage for war anyway. If the Bush regime is foolish enough to ignore good advice, it shouldn't complain about the costs.

Double postings (was Re: Re: Re: Who is the sheriff?)

2003-03-15 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 06:11 15-03-03 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: snip content Er, John, is there a reason why you are sending each (or at least: most) of your messages to the list *twice*? Jeroen Casual Observations van Baardwijk _

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-15 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 01:41:26PM -0600, Marvin Long, Jr. wrote: That sounds good, but I think it's very hard to do. How would one start, since buidling such a thing would appear to involve scuttling or restructuring NATO and possibly the UN as well? I can't think of a way for anyone to

RE: RE: Deadlier Than War

2003-03-15 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In the Catholic Church, we ask forgiveness for both what we have done, and what we have failed to do. Same for Lutherans, exactly. But that doesn't mean that there isn't an ethical

Re: Tropical US Politics [Was Re: br!n: Re: a call to theirregulars!]

2003-03-15 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 4:53 AM Subject: Re: Tropical US Politics [Was Re: br!n: Re: a call to the irregulars!] So, you pay taxes to the US government, but you don't get a

Re: RE: Deadlier Than War

2003-03-15 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 9:33 AM Subject: RE: RE: Deadlier Than War -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Heinlein and current international politics L3

2003-03-15 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 03:38:56PM +, Robert J. Chassell wrote: And, since the US has more power than Iraq, economically, militarily, and culturally, from the point of view of a non-US government, the US presents a more pressing danger, even if, at the moment, it is much nicer than Iraq.

Re: Irregulars Question: Booting from USB HD

2003-03-15 Thread freewire1
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:12:36 +, William T Goodall wrote: So far, I haven't seen any computers that had USB as a boot option. (I recently rolled out five brand new Pentium-4 IBM NetVista PC's, and even those didn't have that option.) Macs have been able to use a USB drive (HD or CD) as

Re: RE: Deadlier Than War

2003-03-15 Thread Jean-Marc Chaton
* Nick Arnett [Sat, 15/03/2003 at 07:33 -0800] But that doesn't mean that there isn't an ethical difference, does it? Agreed, for me there is an ethical difference. I can't preventively bomb 100 Iraqi children even to save 1000 children from my community. -- Jean-Marc

Re: Progress?

2003-03-15 Thread Julia Thompson
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: I spent part of last night and this cleaning up and deleting some old files. When I was done, I had removed about 6GB of stuff I didn't need any more. My last computer had a total of 6GB of hard drive space . . . Every time Dan gets a new personal computer (as

Re: RE: Deadlier Than War

2003-03-15 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Jean-Marc Chaton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 10:14 AM Subject: Re: RE: Deadlier Than War * Nick Arnett [Sat, 15/03/2003 at 07:33 -0800] But that doesn't mean that there isn't an ethical

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-15 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, now we are being hosted by leagin the US troops prepared ^^ to carry out this resolution in the lurch in the Gulf. This didn't make sense. Could you re-state the sentence in a way that makes sense, using

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-15 Thread Julia Thompson
J. van Baardwijk wrote: While it definitely sucks to be away from loved ones for such a long time, and while I sympathise with those sailors who had to miss their own wedding, you can't put a military operation on hold just because someone wants to get married. You're right, you can't. The

Re: Question about Spoilers

2003-03-15 Thread Julia Thompson
G. D. Akin wrote: Sheesh, I hope not. I've never read his works, but I will soon read his Claw of the Conciliator which won a Nebula a few years back. I'm trying to read all the Hugo (actually, done that) and Nebula Award winners. Just a goal. I had that as a goal (the Hugos, anyway) and

Re: Names for fries

2003-03-15 Thread Julia Thompson
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 11:40 PM 3/14/03 -0800, Matt Grimaldi wrote: There are already purple potatoes (naturally occuring pigment) that you can make into purple mashed potaoes. I remember seeing a bag of novelty potato chips which were made using these potatoes. Served with the

Re: Speaking of Bottled Water...

2003-03-15 Thread Julia Thompson
Matt Grimaldi wrote: Alberto Monteiro wrote: (...) I once listened from a nutty UFO and psychic believer that water from high up in the mountains was more healthy than water from below, because it had less Deuterium and Deuterium would accelerate aging. Sounds nutty, but - as

Re: RE: Deadlier Than War

2003-03-15 Thread Jean-Marc Chaton
* Dan Minette [Sat, 15/03/2003 at 10:25 -0600] - Original Message - From: Jean-Marc Chaton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 10:14 AM Subject: Re: RE: Deadlier Than War So, would you have been a pacifist in WWII? No. I

Re: Bible scholars rejoice at signs

2003-03-15 Thread Julia Thompson
The Fool wrote: More problematic is the fatalistic worldview of apocalyptic thinking, Hill said. Many who obsess about the end of the world fail to enjoy the life they have or reach out to help others in an effort to improve society, he said. They become “morally complacent.” This is

Re: Bible scholars rejoice at signs

2003-03-15 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Julia Thompson wrote: This is illustrated by a bumper sticker seen on cars of a few Rapturists: In case of the Rapture, this car will be driverless That's a hell of a thing to inflict on everyone else you're in traffic with! I imgaine that the ethics of Rapturism would _prevent_ this from

Walk Away from the UN

2003-03-15 Thread J.D. Giorgis
This editorial makes a pretty good analysis of how this crisis has transpired so far, until the end. Somehow, Krauthammer seems to have missed the fact that the US proposed exactly the same resolution he described several weeks ago, and it was rejected by the French, et all. Indeed, Jose Maria

Re: RE: Deadlier Than War

2003-03-15 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Jean-Marc Chaton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 10:47 AM Subject: Re: RE: Deadlier Than War * Dan Minette [Sat, 15/03/2003 at 10:25 -0600] - Original Message - From: Jean-Marc Chaton

Re: Names for fries

2003-03-15 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:42 AM 3/15/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 11:40 PM 3/14/03 -0800, Matt Grimaldi wrote: There are already purple potatoes (naturally occuring pigment) that you can make into purple mashed potaoes. I remember seeing a bag of novelty potato chips which were

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-15 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 15, 2003 at 05:00:44PM -, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Ok, but AFAIK serious consequences should be something worse than the current siege warfare against Iraq, and I fail to see what can be more serious than a siege if you don't mean war Siege with attitude? -- Erik Reuter

Re: Bible scholars rejoice at signs

2003-03-15 Thread Julia Thompson
Alberto Monteiro wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: This is illustrated by a bumper sticker seen on cars of a few Rapturists: In case of the Rapture, this car will be driverless That's a hell of a thing to inflict on everyone else you're in traffic with! I imgaine that the ethics of

Re: Lynne Thigpen dies

2003-03-15 Thread John Garcia
On Friday, March 14, 2003, at 11:57 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: John Garcia wrote: For fans of The District and the Carmen Sandiego series on PBS, sad news: Lynne Thigpen, who played Ella Farmer (assistant to the police chief) on The District police show, and The Chief on the Carmen Sandiego

Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-15 Thread jdgiorgis
---Original Message--- From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] The UN Resolution says serious consequences, it doesn't say war. The consequence war is merely America's interpretation of the phrase serious consequences; the various UN members are not in agreement about the how it

RE: RE: Deadlier Than War

2003-03-15 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Minette ... The reality of the situation is that if the US doesn't do something about a place like Rwanda, the Balkins, Iraq, nothing will be done. I'm not sure I entirely agree, but I'm also not

Re: RE: RE: Deadlier Than War

2003-03-15 Thread jdgiorgis
---Original Message--- From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] If we are now killing babies by failing to make war on Iraq, then we were also killing babies by supporting sanctions. Unless the we in those sentences is the whole human race, I don't think it makes any sense to think this

Re: Re: Tropical US Politics [Was Re: br!n: Re: a call to theirregulars!]

2003-03-15 Thread jdgiorgis
---Original Message--- From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] But, there are indeed benefits in becoming a state, and statehood may pass the next election. It doesn't take a revolution; it just takes voting yes. Congress has to approve statehood, but it has indicated a willingness to do

Re: Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-15 Thread jdgiorgis
---Original Message--- From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, now we are being hosted by leagin the US troops prepared ^^ to carry out this resolution in the lurch in the Gulf.

Re: Re: RE: Deadlier Than War

2003-03-15 Thread jdgiorgis
---Original Message--- From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] The citizens of the US are in a unique moral position. With great power comes great responsibility. JDG - Who wonders if France would oppose Spiderman's unilateralism in pursuit of criminals.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-15 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 8:35 AM Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is the sheriff? ---Original Message--- From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] The UN Resolution says serious

Re: Bible scholars rejoice at signs

2003-03-15 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:35 AM 3/15/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: Alberto Monteiro wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: This is illustrated by a bumper sticker seen on cars of a few Rapturists: In case of the Rapture, this car will be driverless That's a hell of a thing to inflict on everyone else you're in

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-15 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is the sheriff? ---Original Message--- From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Authorizes Member States co-operating

Re: RE: Deadlier Than War

2003-03-15 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 11:34 AM Subject: RE: RE: Deadlier Than War -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Minette ...

Re: Heinlein and current international politics L3

2003-03-15 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 9:48 AM Subject: Re: Heinlein and current international politics L3 On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 03:38:56PM +, Robert J. Chassell wrote: And, since the

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-15 Thread jdgiorgis
---Original Message--- From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message--- From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Authorizes Member States co-operating with the Government of Kuwait, unless Iraq on or before 15 January 1991 fully implements, as set forth in paragraph 1

France's influence

2003-03-15 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 9:42 AM Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is the sheriff? I personally think that France may be winning a victory, but that they are losing the War. Their

RE: RE: RE: Deadlier Than War

2003-03-15 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... You need to consider the trade-off. For example, the various Christian Churches of the world do not hold people morally culpable all those who do not sell off all of their

Re: Commentary on French-bashing

2003-03-15 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 4:50 PM Subject: Re: Commentary on French-bashing At 14:32 14-03-03 -0600, Dan Minette wrote: [The French] actively support a brutal dictator. I

Re: France's influence

2003-03-15 Thread John D. Giorgis
---Original Message--- From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] As the leaders of the contain the US alliance? The only democracy that I know of that favors attacking Iraq without a new specific Security Council resolution authorizing it explicitly is the US. After we go in, probably

Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-15 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 09:35 15-03-03 -0500, JDG insultingly wrote: The UN Resolution says serious consequences, it doesn't say war. The consequence war is merely America's interpretation of the phrase serious consequences; the various UN members are not in agreement about the how it should be interpreted.

Re: Re: Tropical US Politics [Was Re: br!n: Re: a call to theirregulars!]

2003-03-15 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 09:44 15-03-03 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: BTW, I'd just like to point out, that the quintessential example of Anti-Americanism is criticism of America's treatment of Puerto Rico. SIGH For the umpteenth time, John, criticism of the US does NOT equal anti-Americanism. I also criticise the

Re: Re: France's influence

2003-03-15 Thread John D. Giorgis
---Original Message--- From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip JDG - International Opion :), Maru. BTW - I forgot to include Portugal and Israel in my list of democracies who will support a war without a second UN Resolution. Apologies if I missed any others. Additionally, I

Re: Replacing the UN Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-15 Thread Robert J. Chassell
The one country, one vote system also gives you the least amount of paperwork After all, either a country exists or it doesn't. This is a very puzzling statement. What about northern Somalia? It collects taxes, pays civil servants and soldiers, and you can point to it on the map.

Re: Heinlein and current international politics L3

2003-03-15 Thread Robert J. Chassell
... do the French really think the probability of the US attacking or subverting their country sometime in the future is greater than the dangers posed by Hussein? That is not the question. The question is, for example, whether a US government thinks it better that France workers

RE: PC-Vgames and Eye Problems: Help!

2003-03-15 Thread Lalith Vipulananthan
JJ wrote: (Aside: There are some extremely cool games coming out for the PS2. It seems the gas is running low for the XBOX and PC game developers... ). Pah. Panzer Dragoon Orta, um, Splinter Cell, and that's about it. We'll have to wait a little while longer before we see Halo 2, PGR 2 and

Re: Bible scholars rejoice at signs

2003-03-15 Thread Trent Shipley
On Saturday 2003-03-15 09:54, Julia Thompson wrote: The Fool wrote: More problematic is the fatalistic worldview of apocalyptic thinking, Hill said. Many who obsess about the end of the world fail to enjoy the life they have or reach out to help others in an effort to improve society, he

Re: Bible scholars rejoice at signs

2003-03-15 Thread Steve Sloan II
The Fool wrote: The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East, writes John, possibly the apostle, of a container of Gods anger Known in modern times as a can of whoop-ass. ;-)

Re: Tropical US Politics [Was Re: br!n: Re: a call to theirregulars!]

2003-03-15 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, you pay taxes to the US government, but you don't get a say in who will be in that government, and you don't get a say in how your tax dollars are spent. No insult intended, but this sounds like Puerto Rico's primary function is that of a milk cow

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-15 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 15, 2003 at 12:37:22PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 01:24:04PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: I appreciate your sincerity in this, but I'm curious as to why you think that while an extremely modest effort (about $40 spent per person in Afghanistan is as

Re: Heinlein and current international politics L3

2003-03-15 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 15 Mar 2003 at 19:54, Robert J. Chassell wrote: ... do the French really think the probability of the US attacking or subverting their country sometime in the future is greater than the dangers posed by Hussein? That is not the question. The question is, for example, whether

Re: France's influence

2003-03-15 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 15 Mar 2003 at 13:05, Dan Minette wrote: I personally think that France may be winning a victory, but that they are losing the War. Their influence will only be reduced after this is all said and done. As the leaders of the contain the US alliance? The only democracy that I know of

Re: RE: Deadlier Than War

2003-03-15 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 15 Mar 2003 at 17:14, Jean-Marc Chaton wrote: * Nick Arnett [Sat, 15/03/2003 at 07:33 -0800] But that doesn't mean that there isn't an ethical difference, does it? Agreed, for me there is an ethical difference. I can't preventively bomb 100 Iraqi children even to save 1000 children

Re: Irregulars Question: Booting from USB HD

2003-03-15 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 15 Mar 2003 at 11:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:12:36 +, William T Goodall wrote: So far, I haven't seen any computers that had USB as a boot option. (I recently rolled out five brand new Pentium-4 IBM NetVista PC's, and even those didn't have that option.)

Re: Heinlein and current international politics L3

2003-03-15 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 15, 2003 at 12:34:34PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you think many French reason this way? I can understand being concerned about excessive American power in general. But when specifically compared to Hussein, do the French really think the

Re: Heinlein and current international politics L3

2003-03-15 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 15, 2003 at 07:54:38PM +, Robert J. Chassell wrote: ... do the French really think the probability of the US attacking or subverting their country sometime in the future is greater than the dangers posed by Hussein? That is not the question. The question is, for

Re: Tropical US Politics [Was Re: br!n: Re: a call to theirregulars!]

2003-03-15 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, let me quote from http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=2query=puerto+rico+taxes+rsource= INKtarget=http%3A%2F%2Fwelcome%2Etopuertorico%2Eorg%2Fgovernment%2Eshtml Hi, Dan. Thanks for bringing these sources to my attention. I love it when I read these

Re: France's influence

2003-03-15 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 10:12 AM Subject: Re: France's influence ---Original Message--- From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] As the leaders of the contain the US

Re: Re: Tropical US Politics [Was Re: br!n: Re: a call totheirregulars!]

2003-03-15 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just to review, the US regularly lets the Puerto Rican vote on their status, and they have chosen the status quo every time. Like I stated on an earlier post, this is just not a correct assesment of the situation. We have yet to see the final referendum in which we have

RE: France's influence

2003-03-15 Thread Lalith Vipulananthan
Andrew Crystall wrote: The UK public and leadership are in favour. The UK public are in favour? What is that statement based on? Lal GSV Curious ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Re: Re: Tropical US Politics [Was Re: br!n: Re: a call tothe irregulars!]

2003-03-15 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 11:29 15-03-03 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: BTW, I'd just like to point out, that the quintessential example of Anti-Americanism is criticism of America's treatment of Puerto Rico. Jeroen wrote: But hey, here's a challenge for you: prove beyond reasonable doubt that criticism of America's

Re: Replacing the UN Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-15 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Earlier, I wrote, What about northern Somalia? It collects taxes, pays civil servants and soldiers, and you can point to it on the map. From what I have heard, it is one of the better run countries in its part of Africa. By `northern Somalia' I meant the part of the country

Re: Tropical US Politics [Was Re: br!n: Re: a call to theirregulars!]

2003-03-15 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 15, 2003 at 09:43:42PM +, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: And we may not pay taxes openly, but again, the taxes are there. They are just embedded in the prices of the articles we pay and similar areas related to trade and commerce. Cost of living is really high down here. I have

RE: France's influence

2003-03-15 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 15 Mar 2003 at 21:55, Lalith Vipulananthan wrote: Andrew Crystall wrote: The UK public and leadership are in favour. The UK public are in favour? What is that statement based on? Poll I saw 2 days in a newspaper. Can't think offhand which. Support has been growing recently. Andy

Re: Deadlier Than War

2003-03-15 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan Minette wrote: I've read that French resistance was fairly minimal, and that most French cooperated willingly with the Germans. Do you have a good source on the extent of French resistance? If 50 innocent lives were taken for the life of one combatant how much resistance would you expect

Re: Deadlier Than War

2003-03-15 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 5:26 PM Subject: Re: Deadlier Than War Dan Minette wrote: I've read that French resistance was fairly minimal, and that most French cooperated

Re: Heinlein and current international politics L3

2003-03-15 Thread Doug Pensinger
Erik Reuter wrote: At the risk of ruining it, can you explain the joke? I know that le is and article for the, but what is le weekend? I thought the French worked short weeks compared to Americans, so they would have at least as long a weekend as Americans. The use of the word weekend rather

Re: Heinlein and current international politics L3

2003-03-15 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 5:33 PM Subject: Re: Heinlein and current international politics L3 Erik Reuter wrote: At the risk of ruining it, can you explain the joke? I know

Re: France's influence

2003-03-15 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The US numbers have shifted towards going in without the UN, but the trend polls that I have seen in other countries have indicated a firming up of the opinion that they will approve of a war only with a UN mandate. I know that Gautam is fairly

Re: Deadlier Than War

2003-03-15 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Minette wrote: I've read that French resistance was fairly minimal, and that most French cooperated willingly with the Germans. Do you have a good source on the extent of French resistance? If 50 innocent lives were taken for the

Re: Deadlier Than War

2003-03-15 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 6:57 PM Subject: Re: Deadlier Than War Or, you know, the Russians, who had a pretty effective partisan campaign going. Or the Serbs, in Yugoslavia.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Tropical US Politics [Was Re: br!n: Re: a call tothe irregulars!]

2003-03-15 Thread John D. Giorgis
---Original Message--- From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] You're in for a disappointment then. I have it on good authority that anti-Americanism had nothing to do with my criticism. * Whose authority, yours? Heh. Believe me Jeroen, your doing exactly what I would

Ah...My Favorite Topic - Books (Was Question about Spoilers)

2003-03-15 Thread G. D. Akin
Julia asked G. D. Akin wrote: Sheesh, I hope not. I've never read his works, but I will soon read his Claw of the Conciliator which won a Nebula a few years back. I'm trying to read all the Hugo (actually, done that) and Nebula Award winners. Just a goal. I had that as a goal (the

Re: Re: France's influence

2003-03-15 Thread John D. Giorgis
---Original Message--- From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was talking about the opinion of people. In a January Gallup poll, the last one I could find, the numbers were: ** Again, though, I definitely believe that those numbers are

Re: Question about Spoilers

2003-03-15 Thread G. D. Akin
William wrote: Since 'Claw' is volume 2 of _The Book of the New Sun_, it might be a good idea to start with volume 1, The Shadow of the Torturer. Probably. I have a self-inflicted rule to read any prequel in a series, so I will do as you suggest. I have a nice SFBC omnibus edition of The

Re: Tropical US Politics [Was Re: br!n: Re: a call to theirregulars!]

2003-03-15 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] How about some numbers? Why not? Take your pick. You have infinite choices!! JUST KIDDING! ;-) (A little math humor..) What percent of your income goes to various taxes (social security, medicare, equivalent of Federal income tax, equivalent of state income

Re: Tropical US Politics [Was Re: br!n: Re: a call to theirregulars!]

2003-03-15 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 01:45:09AM +, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: If I use my experience as a frame of reference, roughly 9.22% from the monthly paycheck goes to Social Security and Medicare, while only 7.5% go to local state taxes. In the 50 states, last I checked, we paid 6.2% for social

Brawl erupts after song played at rodeo

2003-03-15 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/news/31403_local_rodeofight.html Talk of war with Iraq has sparked an atmosphere of tension and anxiety. And it may be to blame for a brawl that broke out at the rodeo Thursday night With some 15,000 to 20,000 folks at the rodeo drinking beer and having fun, things can

Word is made flesh as God reveals himself... as a fish

2003-03-15 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,915125,00.html An obscure Jewish sect in New York has been gripped in awe by what it believes to be a mystical visitation by a 20lb carp that was heard shouting in Hebrew, in what many Jews worldwide are hailing as a modern miracle. Many of the

France seeks urgent Iraq rethink

2003-03-15 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/03/15/villepin/index.html French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin said on Saturday he believed Washington was now working on the basis that war could start in Iraq in a matter of days, and urged a rapid rethink at U.N. level. Paris also issued a

Re: Re: France's influence

2003-03-15 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 4:40 PM Subject: Re: Re: France's influence ---Original Message--- From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was talking about the opinion of

Re: Re: France's influence

2003-03-15 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless the war in Iraq is not considered important by people, why wouldn't politicians who oppose it have a tremendous advantage in the next election in countries where the overwhelming majority of people are opposed to the war? Dan M. That may

The World's First Brain Prosthesis

2003-03-15 Thread Han Tacoma
Public release date: 12-Mar-2003 New Scientist issue: 15th March 2003 http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns3488 The World's First Brain Prosthesis By DUNCAN GRAHAM-ROWE AN ARTIFICIAL hippocampus, the world's first brain prosthesis, is about to be tested in California. Unlike

Re: Word is made flesh as God reveals himself... as a fish

2003-03-15 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 3/15/2003 7:56:23 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An obscure Jewish sect in New York has been gripped in awe by what it believes to be a mystical visitation by a 20lb carp that was heard shouting in Hebrew, .. Carp? Hey deum.

Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-15 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gautam Mukunda ... Or, you know, the Russians, who had a pretty effective partisan campaign going. Or the Serbs, in Yugoslavia. The Vichy government could, at the least, have pretended to care about

Re: France seeks urgent Iraq rethink

2003-03-15 Thread John D. Giorgis
---Original Message--- From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] France is prepared to compromise, on the basis of a very tight timetable (for inspections), but not on an ultimatum... Me: France can't ever agree to *any* ultimatum to Iraq? That is all you need to know about how

Re: The World's First Brain Prosthesis

2003-03-15 Thread Medievalbk
The inventors of the prosthesis had to overcome three major hurdles. They had to devise a mathematical model of how the hippocampus performs under all possible conditions, build that model into a silicon chip, and then interface the chip with the brain. My first thought about a

Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-15 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given your earlier misrepresentation of French gratitude about its liberation in WWII and now this comment, I'm wondering if you simply don't know much about France or you have some anti-French prejudice, or it is carelessness driven by your

Re: Re: Re: France's influence

2003-03-15 Thread John D. Giorgis
---Original Message--- From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] The eternal optimist? John, the question was 1) Not even with UN backing 2) Only with UN backing 3) Even without UN backing You really think all the 2s are going to slide into 1s?

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