Gautam Mukunda asked
What happens when Saddam launches missiles filled with VX at Israel?
Israel is unlikely to fail to defend itself this time, as it did in
1991, under any circumstance. Israel is likely to have a
particularly strong reaction to poison gas. I would rate the chances
that they
I just read the News portion of scifiweekly.com #308. Interesting info on
SF movies.
- A script is complete for Asimov's Foundation; to focus on The Mule
story arc.
- Heinlein's The Moon is a Harsh Mistress has been optioned (for the
second time). The same group has optioned Have Spacesuit,
William T Goodall wrote:
I've read all of those and none would be in my top five...which would
be (a tough call and in date order)
-1968 Lord of Light Roger Zelazny
-1970 The Left Hand of Darkness Ursula K LeGuin
- 1985 Neuromancer William Gibson
- 1990 Hyperion Dan Simmons
- 2000 A
Just finished reading the text of Bush's speech.
So, 48 hours -- I wish Saddam would take exile, but
that seems extremely unlikely.
Things that should have happened and didn't -- US
diplomacy before bullying, UN Security Council taking
firmer steps to convince SH that they meant *real*
At 11:01 PM 3/17/2003 +, you wrote:
On 17 Mar 2003 at 13:33, Jon Gabriel wrote:
Ananova: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_761225.html?menu=news.qu
irkies
Police red-faced after hailing major cocaine coup
Police in Italy have released eight men after the haul of cocaine
they were
At 06:13 PM 3/18/03 +0900, G. D. Akin wrote:
I have all of these but something keeps jumping past them in my want to read
list. I've been putting off Delany because my one experience with him was
Dahlgren -- HATED IT!
After many years of hearing comments on it, I finally heard from _one_
At 05:53 AM 3/18/03 -0500, Kevin Tarr wrote:
At 11:01 PM 3/17/2003 +, you wrote:
On 17 Mar 2003 at 13:33, Jon Gabriel wrote:
Ananova: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_761225.html?menu=news.qu
irkies
Police red-faced after hailing major cocaine coup
Police in Italy have released
At 04:05 PM 3/17/2003 -0800, you wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Paul Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 03:43 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: Language refreshers
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 03:34:10PM -0800, Miller, Jeffrey wrote:
(Not that I
Gautam Mukunda asked:
What happens when Saddam launches missiles filled with
VX at Israel? (...)
So, what do people on the list think Israel
should do? And what should the US do to try and
contain it?
I think Israel should wait, give some time, and
if the allies don't root
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 10:40:41PM -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote:
Umm, because this is a discussion list?
Ummm, but he wouldn't discuss it.
--
Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/
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JDG wrote:
Thus, despite our colloquial
speech, the US, the UK, and the Netherlands are republics,
not democracies.
If you want to nitpick, I would restrict UK and the
Netherlands to republics. The USA would be an
_empire_, because it's a coalition of republics under
an Emperor
Deborah Harrell wrote:
who dimly recalls seeing a swastika on an old Navajo
rug, when she was a child visiting her grandparents in
New Mexico (colors were red, grey, black and white)
When I was a kid, I played in an abandoned house -
it was going to be demolished - whose floor had
a
* Erik Reuter [Tue, 18/03/2003 at 06:46 -0500]
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 10:40:41PM -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote:
Umm, because this is a discussion list?
Ummm, but he wouldn't discuss it.
It's not that Erik. It's just that for the question we discussed, the
only thing I had was an
On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 01:46:11PM +0100, Jean-Marc Chaton wrote:
It's not that Erik. It's just that for the question we discussed, the
only thing I had was an individual opinion, based on what I gathered
from discussion with some friends of jew and muslim origin, that
retaliation is deeply
On 17 Mar 2003 at 16:15, Nick Arnett wrote:
Country TotalJewsPre-war % Losses % Lost
Poland22,000,000 3,300,000 15.00% 2,900,000 88%
As a note, this was large due to a massive PR campaign that the Nazis
conducted versus the Jews, the effects of
On 17 Mar 2003 at 19:35, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
OK list-members.
While I'm using this to evade finishing up work (it's
only 10:30 - why would I be in a hurry to go home?)
here's my current (among many) nightmare scenario.
What happens when Saddam launches missiles filled with
VX at Israel?
- Original Message -
From: Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I grew up hearing Quebecois and English (my first 5 words were in French..)
thanks to a French^WFreedom-Canadian nanny. I studied French for 5 years in
high-school (and a year in college). Today, I can read simple French
On Monday, March 17, 2003 5:05 PM, Jon Gabriel wrote:
From: iaamoac [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:39:52 -
At 15:11 17-03-03 -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
Q.E.D.
Uhhh. I don't know how Dutch dictionaries work, but in English
dictionary definitions are *OR*
On Tuesday, March 18, 2003, at 10:55 am, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 06:13 PM 3/18/03 +0900, G. D. Akin wrote:
I have all of these but something keeps jumping past them in my want
to read
list. I've been putting off Delany because my one experience with
him was
Dahlgren -- HATED IT!
After
A few people on the list have asked to read copies of
my senior thesis on status competition in
international relations. Unfortunately, I've managed
to lose the list of people who did so. If anyone is
still interested, could you drop me a line off-list
and I'd be happy to send it to you? Sorry.
- Original Message -
From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: Who is the sheriff?
I worry about them too, of course. Heck, I'm one of
them. But the only way I see this working out well
for
On Tuesday, March 18, 2003, at 09:13 am, G. D. Akin wrote:
William T Goodall wrote:
- 1966Babel-17
Samuel R.
Delany
- 1968Einstein Intersection
Samuel
R.
Delany
- 1971A Time of Changes Robert
Silverberg
- 1981The
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Given this assessment, it seems to me that we will
need a bit of
luck...unless the US has tricks up its sleeve that I
can't begin to
comprehend. Lets assume a reasonable worst case
scenario for what we
cannot control. The Republican guard decides
On Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:03 AM, Han Tacoma (that's me) wrote:
On Monday, March 17, 2003 5:05 PM, Jon Gabriel wrote:
From: iaamoac [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:39:52 -
At 15:11 17-03-03 -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
Q.E.D.
Uhhh. I don't know how Dutch
From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Question on Israel
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 13:36:08 -
On 17 Mar 2003 at 19:35, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
OK list-members.
While I'm using this to evade
* Erik Reuter [Tue, 18/03/2003 at 08:09 -0500]
I asked for a few examples to back up your point. Perhaps I
misunderstood your point? If you agree with me that attacking terrorists
may create new terrorists, but overall it will create FEWER terrorists
than are eliminated, thus decreasing the
On 18 Mar 2003 at 12:11, Jon Gabriel wrote:
Well - I'm not sure of the reaction, but Israel does (unlike in the
Gulf war) have a missile defence system up which should block some of
the incomming missiles.
They have their own, fairly long ranged arrow missiles and the
Americans have
You wrote:
A few people on the list have asked to read copies of
my senior thesis on status competition in
international relations. Unfortunately, I've managed
to lose the list of people who did so. If anyone is
still interested, could you drop me a line off-list
and I'd be happy to send it to
I saw a picture of some arabs burning a mosaic of
us, uk, au flags, and it made me thing about
good business opportunities: selling au flags to
arabs! They probably have already burned enough
USA and UK flags not to bother to pay high prices
for them, but I imagine an Australian flag would
I was just wondering...isn't France (and the UN) now caught in a Catch-22?
If the USA and Allies go to war with Iraq and do well won't we wonder WHY we have a UN?
If the USA and Allies go to war with Iraq and don't do too well won't we BLAME the UN
(and France) for not helping us?
And didn't
From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Question on Israel
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 08:50:59 -0300 (EST)
Gautam Mukunda asked:
What happens when Saddam launches missiles filled with
VX at
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff?
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 22:49:48 -0600
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
(And I bet some people are glad that no one brought up
George wrote:
I've been putting off Delany because my one experience with him was
Dahlgren -- HATED IT! I'm afraid the two mentioned above will be more of
the same. Nevertheless, I will eveentually read them.
I've read _Dahlgren_ (and yes Ronn!, I actually read it all the way through
:-), and
Marvin Long, Jr. wrote:
And yet. I feel that this particular course of action, and this
particular timing, has pretty much been force-fed to the American people
by a propaganda campaign based on scanty facts and half-truths to convince
us all that Hussein presents to America the same degree
Doug Pensinger wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
Hey! Since I met Olympic equestrians Karen and David
O'Connor this weekend past, AND their medal-winning
Irish thoroughbreds Giltedge and Custom Made, can I
now drop names too?!
True But A Bit Sleep-deprived Maru :)
I met Moe in third
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Who is the sheriff?
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:04:26 -0600
- Original Message -
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Bryon Daly wrote:
I just came across this article that explores Bush's ineffective diplomacy and
the reasons behind it, and had been debating whether to post it.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-03-17-anti-diplomacy-usat_x.htm
Thanks. Here's another
iaamoac wrote:
Whenever I walk by there, I can't help but be astonished that it was
*only* 60 years ago - and yet it seems so absolutely unthinkable
today. Sure we can all talk about technological development over
the last century, but our ethical development is almost as awe-
inspiring -
From: Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 13:47:20 -0500
iaamoac wrote:
Whenever I walk by there, I can't help but be
G. D. Akin wrote:
I really enjoyed Hyperion (as well as the three sequels) and A Deepness
in the Sky. I'd put the rest as average or below.
I absolutely loved Hyperion (I'd rate it 10/10), but the series went downhill a bit
from there, for me, (although, even the last book, my least favorite,
William T Goodall wrote:
My list of authors I have never read a whole novel by consists of
Hemingway[2] + everybody else I was supposed to read at school...unless
they were a sf/fantasy/horror writer.
I don't care for Hemmingway, either, based on the one book of his I did read -
The Sun Also
Allies Hope to Move Quickly to Seize City in Iraq's
South
By PATRICK E. TYLER
NY TIMES
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/18/international/middleeast/18BASR.html?pagewanted=allposition=top
KUWAIT CITY, March 17 One of the first major
objectives in the war against Iraq will be to seize
its largest
- Original Message -
From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: Who is the sheriff?
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Given this assessment, it seems to me that we will
need a bit of
When I was younger, I remember every important address to the Nation made by the
current PotUS was made from the Oval Office (and started My fellow Americans..)
Does anyone have any insight on why last night's address was made from the Cross Hall?
(I think that's where it was - I'm notoriously
From: Doug Pensinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bush and Sharone are a lot of things but they aren't Nazis.
Of course not, the poster was obvious hyperbole, but not necessarily
anti-Semitic.
How about we agree to disagree? I don't think I'm gonna change your mind
and I'm not sure you are
Those countries include: Afghanistan, Albania,
Australia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Colombia, the Czech
Republic, Denmark, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia,
Ethiopia, Georgia, Hungary, Italy, Japan, the Rep. of
Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, the FYR Macedonia, the
Netherlands, Nicaragua, the Philippines,
From: Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bible scholars rejoice at signs
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 02:22:28 -0500
Kevin Tarr wrote:
I was going to post the story of the helium filled dolls and the
At 16:00 17-03-03 -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
Then how would you describe countries like The Netherlands, Belgium,
the UK and Spain? These are all monarchies and they are all
democratic.
Constitutional monarchies. They are not democracies because there is not a
direct rule of the majority.
When
At 16:33 17-03-03 -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
What risk would that be? The only action he is involved in is posting
Bush-regime propaganda to a mailing list; what risks he is exposing
himself to by doing that (other than having his arguments shot to
barrels time and time again)?
He lives in the
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], J. van Baardwijk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What risk would that be?
He lives in the DC area.
With all those security measures in place, and with all that
military
hardware in position around DC, it is probably one of the safest
urban
areas in the country
Three points: I just heard there are reports that a few very trusted
Republican guard units are getting vx tipped missles.
I saw a person, I just caught the end so I have no idea who he was or what
he's an expert in, say two things on TV the past weekend: he believes that
Saddam already has up
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, the next two days are important for this, right?
If they start
redeploying to Baghdad now, then the chances of
doing this are greatly
reduced.
Yes, very much so. According to NPR this morning,
interestingly enough, Baghdad is _not_ being
From: Matt Grimaldi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
It premiers on March 22 at 9PM ET/PT:
http://www.scifi.com/onair/scifipictures/riverworld/
Thanks for the info. However, I'm not too hopeful. The following is my
dissection of the summary on the website. OK. I'm being a bit pedantic as
I'm
-Original Message-
From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 01:45 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: Who is the sheriff?
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, the next two days are important for this, right?
If they start
--- Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Mongolian Defense? (Show an obvious weakness
to
draw in your opponent, but be deployed to react to
such a move)
-j-
No, that involves superior tactical mobility, and
tactical mobility is one of the hallmarks of American
fighting forces. If
-Original Message-
From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 02:11 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: RE: Who is the sheriff?
--- Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Mongolian Defense? (Show an obvious weakness
to
draw in
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:45:34 +0100
At 16:33 17-03-03 -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
What risk would
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,916466,00.html
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Gautam said:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,916466,00.html
Things aren't going so well for him in Parliament though::
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2862325.stm
Rich
GCU Interesting Times
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On 18 Mar 2003 at 16:23, Kevin Tarr wrote:
I'm worried about hidden forces in Syria.
Don't.
What Syria is NOT is stupid. Yes, there's been a virtual stalemate
between Syria and Israel in diplomacy, but if it comes to a choice
between the terrorists in Lebanon and preserving Syria, they'll
On Tuesday, March 18, 2003, at 06:29 pm, Bryon Daly wrote:
Doug Pensinger wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
Hey! Since I met Olympic equestrians Karen and David
O'Connor this weekend past, AND their medal-winning
Irish thoroughbreds Giltedge and Custom Made, can I
now drop names too?!
True But A
--- Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Things aren't going so well for him in Parliament
though::
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2862325.stm
Rich
Given who makes up the Labor MPs, I rather think he
did fine. His speech was marvelous - brilliant,
incisive, irrefutable. The
From: Halupovich Ilana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/correspondent/2841377.stm
Vaanunu was kidnapped in Rome, not in London. Now if this
reporter could
not give *one* fact right, why should I think that other facts are
right?
The article did say it
Jon Gabriel wrote:
DC was targeted by Muslim terrorists before: the attack on the Pentagon,
where John *works* (did it completely escape your notice that if he had been
in another section of the building he works in he might have been killed
that day?) and the failed terror plane attack that
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
Given who makes up the Labor MPs, I rather think he
did fine. His speech was marvelous - brilliant,
incisive, irrefutable. The money quote, for those who
think it was ever possible to bring France to a
compromise position on this issue:
Gautam, do you have a link to
--- Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
Gautam, do you have a link to the full text of the
speech
somewhere? I'd love to read the rest of it. I
definitely
agree with your sentiments on Blair.
Thanks,
-bryon
The full speech text is at:
- Original Message -
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: Ah...My Favorite Topic - Books (Was Question about Spoilers)
At 06:13 PM 3/18/03 +0900, G. D. Akin wrote:
I have all of these but
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
The full speech text is at:
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/foreignaffairs/story/0,11538,916789,00.html
Wow. Brilliant. I could only wish Bush had given a similar speech, a few months ago.
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--- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
God I look awful.
Note to self: Get haircuts more frequently.
Jon
Really? I thought it was a pretty good picture of
me...
Gautam
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On Monday, March 17, 2003, at 10:37 PM, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- John Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I recently read a paper by an associate of John Boyd
outlining what a
snipped
John,
If you could tell me how to get a copy of that paper,
or post it, or a URL, or something like that, I would
--- John Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Boyd is a fascinating man, and I plan to read Robert
Coram's biography
of Boyd after Waging Modern War by Wesley Clark.
john
I'm not a big fan of Wes Clark's, but I am looking
forward to the Coram bio. I have to ask my USAF
friend what he thinks
Jeroen wrote:
BTW, yesterday something happened in The Netherlands that made the country
look like a democracy in the literal meaning of the word -- the government
made a decision based on the will of the people. The Netherlands finally
did the right thing, and announced that it will not give
On Monday, March 17, 2003, at 11:30 PM, Reggie Bautista wrote:
John Garcia wrote:
I recently read a paper by an associate of John Boyd outlining what a
military force organized on his principles of strategy would look
like. ...
What I can glean from the public statements made by our
On Tuesday, March 18, 2003, at 08:59 PM, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- John Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Boyd is a fascinating man, and I plan to read Robert
Coram's biography
of Boyd after Waging Modern War by Wesley Clark.
john
I'm not a big fan of Wes Clark's, but I am looking
forward to the
--- John Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
john
ps good luck to your friend.
John - thanks. He'll need it - but his enemies will
need it a lot more. A different USAF pilot described
him to me as someone who would cause the Red Baron to
expletive deleted his pants if he found out they
were in
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of John Garcia
...
Went to high school with Al Roker.
Some things are better left unsaid. Such as the fact that I worked at the
same radio station as Jeff Christie. Luckily, our tenures failed to
overlap.
Wow!
Now that was much better than the first miniseries.
The drama aspect seemed quite a bit less forced and more true to life.
The angst aspect of The Prophet and his and his anger with the cult of
Mua'dib seemed honest.
I really liked that they were able to get the basic message that is the
- Original Message -
From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:12 PM
Subject: RE: Name-dropping (was: Corrected French history)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Jon Gabriel
...
Kim Basinger
Hmmm... Having been on a set where she was working (The Marrying Man), I
have to have my doubts about this.
Jon
You meet a very wide variety of people working in publicity
JDG wrote:
Thus, despite our colloquial
speech, the US, the UK, and the Netherlands
are republics, not democracies.
Alberto Monteiro wrote:
If you want to nitpick, I would restrict UK and the
Netherlands to republics. The USA would be an
_empire_, because it's a coalition of
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