Re: Dinging plans (was RE: test)

2002-10-30 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Erik Reuter wrote: > Maybe we could also have things that decrease your ding number. Not > dongs (I give you the dong! :-) ummm, tips or nods? Or you could call > them kisses (or carresses, or ...) and then the codes for people who use > them would mean "friendly", "promiscuous", and "real whore".

Re: Dinging plans (was RE: test)

2002-10-30 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Jean-Louis Couturier wrote: > I'd have separate scores for dings received an dings given. If Erik's > codes are applied to dings received, we could have a code for dingers > along the lines of "Tolerant", "Capricious" and "Opinion Police" Now *that* would be interesting... ;o) Sonja __

Fwd: Your Fun and Games Tip for Thu, 31 Oct 2002

2002-10-30 Thread Ronn Blankenship
EMAZING.com proudly presents Fun and Games Joke of the Day Thursday October 31, 2002 Q: If you're an American when you go into the bathroom, and you're an American when you come out of the bathroom, what are you while you are IN the bathroom? A: European. [Sort of on-topic with some of the

Response in the Style of Jeroen Re: Our Friends at the UN

2002-10-30 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 10:57 PM 10/30/2002 +0100 J. van Baardwijk wrote: >Also note that his previous postings on the UN suggest that he believes >non-democratic countries should not have a vote in the more-or-less >democratic UN because those countries are not democratic themselves. Actually, I have never stated t

Re: test

2002-10-30 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 09:16 PM 10/30/2002 +0100 J. van Baardwijk wrote: >You were not ignoring *me*, you were ignoring my questions and my requests >for proof for your claims. If I was not ignoring you, why did you start sending your questions for me to all of my e-mail addresses that you knew about, so as to find

Jeroen's Etiquette Guidelines Re: Our Friends at the UN

2002-10-30 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 10:57 PM 10/30/2002 +0100 J. van Baardwijk wrote: >So, what do we have here? We have one hell of an inconsistency in JDG's >beliefs. I can't help but wonder if right after the part about "You must always answer every question posed to you" in Jeroen's etiquette guidelines, if there just might

RE: heading towards a singularity

2002-10-30 Thread Horn, John
> From: Brad DeLong [mailto:delong@;econ.Berkeley.EDU] > > Now any suggestions on what I should tell the cybermasses? That the next big thing will be computers (xompitors?) made out of cheese doodles and corn pops? or That everyone should forget all about that movie "The Postman" and go out and

RE: news: Iraq Sets an Example in Computerizing Its National Elections

2002-10-30 Thread Horn, John
> From: Alberto Monteiro [mailto:albmont@;centroin.com.br] > > See below an example of how to vote > http://www.geocities.com/albmont/urna_eletronica_iraque.htm Shouldn't the instructions be in Arabic (Persian?)? ;-) - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com

Re: Christian insanity.

2002-10-30 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/30/2002 10:16:28 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << - the Church of the Blind Chihuahua. http://www.dogchurch.org/ >From their FAQ page: "What do you mean by "The Courage to be Ridiculous before God? >> I would think that communion would be a s

RE: Question for everyone

2002-10-30 Thread Ritu Ko
Dan Minette wrote: > > Of course, all this is strictly imho. > > > > Well, not to be argumentative, but I think it is impho. Okay, I'll bite... P - Personal? Ritu ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Christian insanity.

2002-10-30 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Gary Nunn wrote: > > Ok, this website is almost scary. At first it reads > much like 'The Onion", > but then you realize that it is for real.. > http://www.christianreporter.com/cgi/editorlite/print.cgi I did find one link from this site highly amusing (with a sharp nip or three at one's

Re: Our Friends at the UN

2002-10-30 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:31 PM Subject: Re: Our Friends at the UN > Which section of the report was that in? > Part 1, chapter 11 Dan M. __

Re: Question for everyone

2002-10-30 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Ritu Ko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:53 PM Subject: RE: Question for everyone > > > J. van Baardwijk wrote: > > > >As for what I said, well, personal attacks doesn't ever let > > anyone 'win' > > >an a

RE: Question for everyone

2002-10-30 Thread Ritu Ko
J. van Baardwijk wrote: > >As for what I said, well, personal attacks doesn't ever let > anyone 'win' > >an argument/discussion. So I fail to see what the big deal is. > > Those personal attacks tend to have quite a lot of effect on > the list as a > whole -- and not exactly a positive effe

Re: cars, air L3er

2002-10-30 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/30/2002 8:22:48 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Steam cars lasted into the 1920's. They cost more than IC cars, and fuel was very cheap, so efficiency didn't matter. So it was price that killed them AFAIK. >> But the all leather omnibus, the

Re: cars, air L3er

2002-10-30 Thread William T Goodall
on 30/10/02 1:52 am, Kevin Tarr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> External combustion engines (steam engines/turbines) are already more >> efficient than internal combustion engines, and what happened to the Stanley >> Steamer? >> >> -- >> William T Goodall > > > Well come on ;-) They couldn't

Re: Our Friends at the UN

2002-10-30 Thread Julia Thompson
Doug wrote: > > Dan Minette wrote: > > > I > >heard from him, BTW, and he is doing fine, although he's pretty busy. > > > Glad to hear it. How about Zim, we haven't heard from him in quite a while. > > Doug The server is chewing up his posts. We're trying to fix the problem. Well, Zimmy and

Re: Our Friends at the UN

2002-10-30 Thread Doug
Dan Minette wrote: I heard from him, BTW, and he is doing fine, although he's pretty busy. Glad to hear it. How about Zim, we haven't heard from him in quite a while. Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: heading towards a singularity

2002-10-30 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/30/2002 6:17:26 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Greenspan >> If the Urs and Traeki build a bridge, will it be known as a Greenspan because it is made of living boo, or because it needs to be Fed? William Taylor - For SF hist

Re: Our Friends at the UN

2002-10-30 Thread Julia Thompson
Dan Minette wrote: > > Further, we have the unfortunate example of the Balkins. The US behaved as > just one of many members of the international community, unwilling to force > its will on the world, or even its allies. Lets look at what the Dutch > review of the tragedy in Kosova has to say ab

Just for the record

2002-10-30 Thread Julia Thompson
I haven't been reading the WSJ editorial page much recently, but my husband has, and he's seen a fair bit of the following as of late: 1) Arguments that France shouldn't be a permanent member of the UN Security Council. 2) Arguments for a somewhat new set of permanent UNSC members: US, Russia,

Re: heading towards a singularity

2002-10-30 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Brad DeLong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:01 PM Subject: Re: heading towards a singularity > >- Original Message - > >From: "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: W

Re: heading towards a singularity

2002-10-30 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/30/2002 6:03:30 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Now any suggestions on what I should tell the cybermasses? >> How about: "Are you now, or have you ever been?" >From one of the worst movies to ever rent if it's not the letterbox edition. Wi

Re: heading towards a singularity

2002-10-30 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
Brad asked: > Now any suggestions on what I should tell the cybermasses? That they should give me their money. Or I destroy Tokyo. Adam C. Lipscomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Silence. I am watching television." - Spider Jerusalem ___ http://www.mccmedia.com

Re: heading towards a singularity

2002-10-30 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert Seeberger wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:49 AM > Subject: heading towards a singularity > > > http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/10.11/view.html?pg=4 > > > > I started

Re: heading towards a singularity

2002-10-30 Thread Brad DeLong
- Original Message - From: "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:49 AM Subject: heading towards a singularity http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/10.11/view.html?pg=4 I started reading this and felt that I had read it befo

Uplift Urbane Legend #8

2002-10-30 Thread Medievalbk
The Qheuen have a better mind's eye than what humans have. How many human artist do you know that look at their model and then turn out the lights before they begin to paint or sculpt. The Qheuen eye is on the top. The mouth is on the bottom. The eye cannot see what the mouth is doing. Yet Pin

news: Iraq Sets an Example in Computerizing Its National Elections

2002-10-30 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Iraq Sets an Example in Computerizing Its National Elections BAGHDAD, Oct. 16 - Iraq's election this month had all the ingredients to be slow and messy. This country is larger than Florida, with millions living in remote desert and ruined areas. While one of every seven people is illiterate, voti

Re: Question for everyone

2002-10-30 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:04 PM Subject: RE: Question for everyone > At 06:49 30-10-2002 +0530, Ritu Ko wrote: > > >As for what I said, well, personal attacks doesn't ever let anyone 'win'

Re: test

2002-10-30 Thread Reggie Bautista
Jeroen wrote: > I thought "beautiful" and "brazilian guys" were mutually exclusive. Alberto replied: [in fact, it's "beautiful" and "guys" that are mutually exclusive, by definition of beautiful. At leat it was so when I learned English, more than a quarter of a century ago] Yes and no. By d

Re: heading towards a singularity

2002-10-30 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:49 AM Subject: heading towards a singularity > http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/10.11/view.html?pg=4 > I started reading this and felt that I had read it bef

Re: Our Friends at the UN

2002-10-30 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Matt Grimaldi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:15 AM Subject: Re: Our Friends at the UN > Why can't you (and the WSJ and the Bush Administration, > whom you endorse wholeheartedly) trust people to form > their ow

RE: Dinging plans (was RE: test)

2002-10-30 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Jean-Louis Couturier wrote: > Erik Reuter [wrote:] > > > I would suggest at > > least 3 codes meaning roughly: "well-though-of", > "somewhat annoying", > > "real asshole". Dings could be any real number > that people decide (but I > > still think absolute minimum of 1 ding cost to > ding someo

Was Democracy Just A Moment

2002-10-30 Thread Reggie Bautista
Following a link from a link that Dan (I think) posted, I ran across an article from 1997 that seems to apply to a few recent threads. The article is, "Was Democracy Just a Moment" by Robert Kaplan. http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/97dec/democ.htm The article is very long, but well worth the r

Re: news: Brazil Sets an Example in Computerizing Its NationalElections

2002-10-30 Thread Russell Chapman
Alberto Monteiro wrote: Brazilian officials said the new system also makes tallying the vote easier and more reliable once the polls have closed. Instead of relying on election judges who are vulnerable to error or political pressures, the results are transmitted on a secure line to the state

Re: Our Friends at the UN

2002-10-30 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Matt Grimaldi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:46 AM Subject: Re: Our Friends at the UN > Dan Minette wrote: > My issues of concern (which I've stated before) are: > > There are moral and political problems with

Re: Our Friends at the UN

2002-10-30 Thread Julia Thompson
Dan Minette wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Matt Grimaldi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:15 AM > Subject: Re: Our Friends at the UN > > > You presented a document which uses such > > labels as "soft-on-Saddam queue" and > > "d

Re: test

2002-10-30 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jeroen wrote: > > I thought "beautiful" and "brazilian guys" were mutually exclusive. > [in fact, it's "beautiful" and "guys" that are mutually exclusive, by definition of beautiful. At leat it was so when I learned English, more than a quarter of a century ago] > > BTW, does your wife know about

Re: Dinging plans (was RE: test)

2002-10-30 Thread Julia Thompson
Jean-Louis Couturier wrote: > > De : Erik Reuter [mailto:ereuter@;erikreuter.com] > > Maybe we could also have things that decrease your ding number. Not > > dongs (I give you the dong! :-) ummm, tips or nods? Or you could call > > them kisses (or carresses, or ...) and then the codes for people w

Re: test: questions & comment

2002-10-30 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Julia wrote: > Deborah Harrell wrote: > > --- Julia wrote: > > > Deborah Harrell wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm trying to find out what the problem is: I > just got > > > > Sonja's post on this, but Jim's was already in > my inbox before lunch, so clearly others received > > > it in timely fashion.

Re: test

2002-10-30 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 21:47 30-10-2002 +, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Oops. Sonja reads your messages? Yikes. I'd rather not send you my personal collection of thousands of pictures of beautiful naked brazilian guys that you requested me. I thought "beautiful" and "brazilian guys" were mutually exclusive. BTW, d

Re: Our Friends at the UN

2002-10-30 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 20:12 29-10-2002 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: Latest projected vote count: YES (Nine Needed for Passage): United States, United Kingdom, Norway, Bulgaria, Colombia, Singapore, Mauritius Note that he lists seven countries here. At 08:32 30-10-2002 -0500, he wrote: Democracies on the UNSC:

RE: Some things are too good to last

2002-10-30 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Reggie Bautista wrote: > Jean-Louis replied: > >I suggest drinking Halloween floats : > > > >1 part blond beer (eg. lager) with orange coloring > >1 part Guinness which should float on the lager! > > Irish bars here in KC (and presumably elsewhere) > call this either a > half-and-half (if the

Re: test

2002-10-30 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Hi, Jeroen! > >Hiss - siss - crackle $%%^^&*(^^%#%^$*&#!$ >TRANSMISSION TERMINATED > Oops. Sonja reads your messages? Yikes. I'd rather not send you my personal collection of thousands of pictures of beautiful naked brazilian guys that you requested me. [let's hope I hit the private key...] Albe

Re: test

2002-10-30 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 10:16 30-10-2002 +0100, Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: I'm with you on that one for 100%. Indeed, better to have no dinging. Ignoring what you don't like, respond to what is interesting. We used to be able to do that quite well in the very far back past. Now the list gets clogged with expla

Re: Our Friends at the UN

2002-10-30 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 08:26 30-10-2002 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: >You left out "we all know that nobody from those >countries, even diplomats to the U.N., could possibly >hope to make competent decisions in such a matter." The diplomat to the UN is probably the dictator's second cousin once-removed. Yeah, so wh

Re: Our Friends at the UN

2002-10-30 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 23:49 30-10-2002 +1100, Ray Ludenia wrote: > There's difference between giving the Cameroonians a *say*, and giving > the despot of a tiny, one-party, banana republic the decisive vote on > the morality of intervening in Iraq. > > I'd support the former, but right now, we're stuck with the lat

RE: Our Friends at the UN

2002-10-30 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 23:41 29-10-2002 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: >>Yes folks, the fate of the world may well rest in the hands of Guinea >>or Cameroon, should Ireland or Mexico choose to abstain from voting. > >This kind of statement is an example of why some nations think the US is >arrogant. God forbid a pathet

Re: test

2002-10-30 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 21:10 29-10-2002 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: >My opinion on listmail is that if you don't like what somebody has to >say, ignore it. People have a right to an opinion, fortunatly others >have just as much right to ignore it. Use that right. Use filters, be it >it just mere mental or state of th

RE: Question for everyone

2002-10-30 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 06:49 30-10-2002 +0530, Ritu Ko wrote: As for what I said, well, personal attacks doesn't ever let anyone 'win' an argument/discussion. So I fail to see what the big deal is. Those personal attacks tend to have quite a lot of effect on the list as a whole -- and not exactly a positive effec

Re: news: Brazil Sets an Example in Computerizing Its NationalElections

2002-10-30 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Erik Reuter asked: > >> Officials were also heartened by statistics indicating >> that the number of blank and spoiled ballots fell by >> nearly half, from 18.7 percent in the 1998 general >> election to 10.7 percent in the first round of >> voting. > > How can you have a "blank" o

Re: Some things are too good to last

2002-10-30 Thread Reggie Bautista
William wrote: > >P.S. A single female on our list should dress up as a large > >biologist/gardener alien in a tasteful pink dress with matching pillbox hat. > >Let's see how long it takes someone to figure out that she's dressed as a > >Jackie-O-Linten. Alberto replied: > No, no, no. The men

RE: Dinging plans (was RE: test)

2002-10-30 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
De : Erik Reuter [mailto:ereuter@;erikreuter.com] > Maybe we could also have things that decrease your ding number. Not > dongs (I give you the dong! :-) ummm, tips or nods? Or you could call > them kisses (or carresses, or ...) and then the codes for people who use > them would mean "friendly", "p

RE: Our Friends at the UN

2002-10-30 Thread Reggie Bautista
JDG wrote: There's difference between giving the Cameroonians a *say*, and giving the despot of a tiny, one-party, banana republic the decisive vote on the morality of intervening in Iraq. I'd support the former, but right now, we're stuck with the latter - and find it fairly amusing. John, cal

Re: Dinging plans (was RE: test)

2002-10-30 Thread Erik Reuter
Maybe we could also have things that decrease your ding number. Not dongs (I give you the dong! :-) ummm, tips or nods? Or you could call them kisses (or carresses, or ...) and then the codes for people who use them would mean "friendly", "promiscuous", and "real whore". -- "Erik Reuter" <[EMAI

RE: Scouted : Anti SUV ad being planned

2002-10-30 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
In a message dated 10/30/2002 10:03:58 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << A Salon columnist has plans for a shocking ad campaign associating SUVs to terrorism. >> Willian Taylor (hey, that's my last name too!) replied > Waiting with fish baited breath to see their reason

Re: Dinging plans (was RE: test)

2002-10-30 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 01:56:42PM -0500, Jean-Louis Couturier wrote: > I'd have separate scores for dings received an dings given. If Erik's > codes are applied to dings received, we could have a code for dingers > along the lines of "Tolerant", "Capricious" and "Opinion Police" Great idea! I l

Re: news: Brazil Sets an Example in Computerizing Its NationalElections

2002-10-30 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 01:01:49PM -0300, Alberto Monteiro wrote: > Officials were also heartened by statistics indicating that the number > of blank and spoiled ballots fell by nearly half, from 18.7 percent > in the 1998 general election to 10.7 percent in the first round of > voting. How can y

RE: Dinging plans (was RE: test)

2002-10-30 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
De : Erik Reuter [mailto:ereuter@;erikreuter.com] > I would suggest at > least 3 codes meaning roughly: "well-though-of", "somewhat annoying", > "real asshole". Dings could be any real number that people decide (but I > still think absolute minimum of 1 ding cost to ding someone else), and > your

Re: Scouted : Anti SUV ad being planned

2002-10-30 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/30/2002 10:03:58 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << A Salon columnist has plans for a shocking ad campaign associating SUVs to terrorism. >> Well, the SUV can hold more explosives than a Yugo. Or are they trying to keep the terrorists from coming t

Re: Dinging plans (was RE: test)

2002-10-30 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 01:42:36PM -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: > Ah, great idea, better than my subject: line idea! Also, instead of Umm, I should have said, "much better than my formulation of the subject: line idea", since I did not think of the idea. -- "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> h

Re: Dinging plans (was RE: test)

2002-10-30 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 09:14:19AM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: > Ratings a la Slash wouldn't work very well, either, since people read > mailing lists via a variety of applications, in which there is no > standard way to accommodate ratings. That is not so. Anyone who has capability for simple keyw

Re: Some things are too good to last

2002-10-30 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 10:45 AM 10/29/02, Julia Thompson wrote: Alberto Monteiro wrote: > > William Taylor wrote: > > > >P.S. A single female on our list should dress up as a large > >biologist/gardener alien in a tasteful pink dress with matching pillbox hat. > >Let's see how long it takes someone to figure out tha

RE: Flying Saucer seen in Brazil

2002-10-30 Thread Horn, John
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Medievalbk@;aol.com] > > A flying saucer was recently spotted hovering over Rio De Janeiro, > broadcasting, > "Take me to your leader." in Spanish. > > Yup, It's a genuine U. F. faux pas Ouch. Thanks for a good laugh! - jmh

Re: Our Friends at the UN

2002-10-30 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Dan Minette wrote: > > I think it depends on where in the paper it lies. If > it is on page one, its bad journalism. If its on the > editorial page, its an opinion. > So there is a potential "out" for the WSJ's reputation... It still fails to be the conclusive argument that JDG hoped it would.

Re: Our Friends at the UN

2002-10-30 Thread Dan Minette
I found a well written article that details the negatives for going into Iraq unilaterally. Its at http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2002/11/fallows.htm Its too bad Gautam has a problem with his email server that keeps his as a part time lurker. I'd be curious to see what he'd say about this, s

RE: Dinging plans (was RE: test)

2002-10-30 Thread Nick Arnett
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:brin-l-bounces@;mccmedia.com]On > Behalf Of David Hobby > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:05 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Dinging plans (was RE: test) ... > Sorry, I guess that I missed the post where the dingin

RE: Some things are too good to last

2002-10-30 Thread Reggie Bautista
I wrote: > Haven't even had a good glass of Mead in the past year Maru :-( Jean-Louis replied: Come up north! Mead and cider have made a big comeback in Quebec. Lots of good stuff like, for example, ice cider : apple cider made in the same way as icewine. Oh, we have plenty of mead available

Scouted : Anti SUV ad being planned

2002-10-30 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
Latest in the demagogy war (or fighting fire with fire) http://www.salon.com/news/col/huff/2002/10/22/oil/index.html http://www.salon.com/news/col/huff/2002/10/29/suv_ad/index.html A Salon columnist has plans for a shocking ad campaign associating SUVs to terrorism. Jean-Louis __

Re: Our Friends at the UN

2002-10-30 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Matt Grimaldi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:15 AM Subject: Re: Our Friends at the UN > "John D. Giorgis" wrote: > > > > At 05:02 AM 10/30/2002 -0800 Matt Grimaldi wrote: > > >> This *council of conciliation* .

news: Brazil Sets an Example in Computerizing Its National Elections

2002-10-30 Thread Alberto Monteiro
I got this from another list. I have interpolated some comments in [[brackets - avfm]] Alberto Monteiro --- By LARRY ROHTER RIO DE JANEIRO, Oct. 29 - Brazil's two elections this month had all the ingredients to be slow and messy. This country is larger than the continental United Sta

heading towards a singularity

2002-10-30 Thread The Fool
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/10.11/view.html?pg=4 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: Some things are too good to last

2002-10-30 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
De : Reggie Bautista [mailto:baure_gakan@;hotmail.com] > Haven't even had a good glass of Mead in the past year Maru :-( Come up north! Mead and cider have made a big comeback in Quebec. Lots of good stuff like, for example, ice cider : apple cider made in the same way as icewine. Jean-Louis __

Re: Dinging plans (was RE: test)

2002-10-30 Thread David Hobby
Nick Arnett wrote: > > [snip] > > > Do we know if he intended for the dings to be anonymous? Anyone? > > > My intention is to try to figure out something that works in this > environment, with help from all of you. It surely won't satisfy all, > perhaps none, but I hope we can collectively ar

RE: POST

2002-10-30 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
In a message dated 10/29/2002 3:51:54 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> > "Ahem." >> > >> > "Post." >> Ehrum. >> >> Kellogg's. >> >>Julia >> >> dodging the projectiles sure to follow *that* one >> > Naw, I'm holding it in Chex. > > Vilyehm As a warlock, Willi

Re: Christian insanity.

2002-10-30 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/30/02 6:44:37 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << As for prayer teams "swinging into action," I have a problem with that. It sounds a lot like it mistakes prayer for action, >> Swinging into action had me thinking up "Mission Unprayable" Select

Re: Our Friends at the UN

2002-10-30 Thread Matt Grimaldi
"John D. Giorgis" wrote: > > At 05:02 AM 10/30/2002 -0800 Matt Grimaldi wrote: > >> This *council of conciliation* ... [disagrees with > >> the term "material breach"] What is it, a foot fault? > >> > >> ... Franco-Russian-Mexican position isn't diplomacy > >> so much as a denial of reality. > > >

Silliness in this post Re: cars, air L3er

2002-10-30 Thread Julia Thompson
William T Goodall wrote: > > External combustion engines (steam engines/turbines) are already more > efficient than internal combustion engines, and what happened to the Stanley > Steamer? > Aren't they the ones that are tough on dirt, gentle on carpets? Julia who expects that that

RE: Christian insanity.

2002-10-30 Thread Nick Arnett
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:brin-l-bounces@;mccmedia.com]On > Behalf Of Gary Nunn ... > I am having a difficult time picturing a "prayer team" swinging > into action, > it almost reminds me of watching the white-hot action of bowling on TV. > > I have always sai

Re: Alberto's Offenses Re: JDG offenses [was: Our Friends at theUN]

2002-10-30 Thread R & M Ludenia
John D. Giorgis wrote: > At 10:14 AM 10/30/2002 -0300 Alberto Monteiro wrote: >> _Banana Republic_ should be *only* used when applied >> to Latino-American countries > > I resent the sexist implications of referring only to Latino-American and > not Latina-American countries! Hey. What about

Re: Our Friends at the UN

2002-10-30 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 11:49 PM 10/30/2002 +1100 Ray Ludenia wrote: >You don't perchance find it amusing that the US appears to be relying on the >support of this banana republic to over-ride the reservations that the other >members of the SC have about the morality of intervention? Democracies on the UNSC: Yes: US,

Re: Our Friends at the UN

2002-10-30 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 05:02 AM 10/30/2002 -0800 Matt Grimaldi wrote: >> This *council of conciliation* ... [disagrees with >> the term "material breach"] What is it, a foot fault? >> >> ... Franco-Russian-Mexican position isn't diplomacy >> so much as a denial of reality. > >What a load of propaganda! Frankly I'm s

Alberto's Offenses Re: JDG offenses [was: Our Friends at the UN]

2002-10-30 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 10:14 AM 10/30/2002 -0300 Alberto Monteiro wrote: >_Banana Republic_ should be *only* used when applied >to Latino-American countries I resent the sexist implications of referring only to Latino-American and not Latina-American countries! JDG

JDG offenses [was: Our Friends at the UN]

2002-10-30 Thread Alberto Monteiro
JDG wrote: > > There's difference between giving the Cameroonians a *say*, > and giving the despot of a tiny, one-party, banana > republic the decisive vote on the > morality of intervening in Iraq. > I feel strongly offended by the use of the derogatory term _banana republic_, as ap

Re: Our Friends at the UN

2002-10-30 Thread Matt Grimaldi
"John D. Giorgis" wrote: (edited for emphasis -- Matt G) > > Wall St. Journal > Our Friends at the U.N. > Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:01 a.m. EST > > President Bush is *understandably8 losing > patience with the U.N. ... Saddam Hussein > "...has made the United Nations look foolish." > ... Vic

Re: Our Friends at the UN

2002-10-30 Thread Ray Ludenia
John D. Giorgis wrote: > There's difference between giving the Cameroonians a *say*, and giving the > despot of a tiny, one-party, banana republic the decisive vote on the > morality of intervening in Iraq. > > I'd support the former, but right now, we're stuck with the latter - and > find it fai

Re: Server mish mash

2002-10-30 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 12:07:42PM +0100, Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: > I just picked up my mail and I got over 100 of the brin-l mail with > over half dating back as far as saturday. This is even more mysterious > since I did pick up my mail yesterday. So unless everybody on this > list is

Re: Question for everyone

2002-10-30 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 07:34 PM 10/29/2002 -0800, you wrote: Dan Minette wrote: I'll warn you once. Never ever bandy the the reliability of data and the certainty of observation with someone who has degrees both in science and philosophy. You risk being subjected to a L8 post on the minutia of the philosophy of

Server mish mash

2002-10-30 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
I just picked up my mail and I got over 100 of the brin-l mail with over half dating back as far as saturday. This is even more mysterious since I did pick up my mail yesterday. So unless everybody on this list is delayed something is very wrong. I'm just not sure where the bug is. Sonja

Re: Christian insanity.

2002-10-30 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 10:00 PM 10/29/2002 -0500, you wrote: Ok, this website is almost scary. At first it reads much like 'The Onion", but then you realize that it is for real.. http://www.christianreporter.com/cgi/editorlite/print.cgi My favorite headline: Prayer Teams Deploy Against Buddhist Gathering posted

Re: test

2002-10-30 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Jean-Louis Couturier wrote: > De : Deborah Harrell [mailto:harrellmedleg@;yahoo.com] > > And after further consideration, I have to agree with > > Erik that anonymous dinging should be severely > > penalized. If allowed at all. And you ought to try > > talking it out offlist first [*politely*],

Re: test

2002-10-30 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
"J. van Baardwijk" wrote: > At 18:02 29-10-2002 +0100, Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: > > >Out of context from exchange between Debbi and Nick: > > > >Debbi: > > > I must once again respectfully disagree. Anonymous dings, no matter the > > > value they are given, go against the idea of transpar