'pop' music is dead

2003-02-27 Thread The Fool
As if we didn't know that already, but: -- http://mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=48160 February 24, 2003 (Barcelona, Spain)— Have you ever wondered why some songs burn up and down the charts in record time while others have a slower climb, tend to linger and then slowly fall? Have you ever

Nasa team feared shuttle wing failure

2003-02-27 Thread The Fool
http://www.guardian.co.uk/columbia/story/0,12845,903896,00.html Nasa team feared shuttle wing failure Oliver Burkeman in Washington Thursday February 27, 2003 The Guardian Nasa engineers sent emails the day before the Columbia disaster expressing their fears that the space shuttle's wing

Re: Computer Languages [was: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?]

2003-02-27 Thread Richard Baker
The Fool said: Java is the spawn of satan, the ultimate evil. Cambridge University's Computer Laboratory now teach Java as their introductory language. What do you think of that? (When I did my postgrad diploma there they taught us Modula-3 first, then ML, then C, Java and Prolog.) Get a

Re: Computer Languages [was: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?]

2003-02-27 Thread The Fool
From: Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fool said: Java is the spawn of satan, the ultimate evil. Cambridge University's Computer Laboratory now teach Java as their introductory language. What do you think of that? (When I did my postgrad diploma there they taught us Modula-3 first,

Re: 'pop' music is dead

2003-02-27 Thread Richard Baker
The Fool said: Yup, more and more homogenized CRAP. But does that really matter as long as lots of good music is being produced too? I think that peer-to-peer filesharing provides an excellent facility for exploring new types of music, and there's lots of great songs still being produced (for

Re: Computer Languages [was: Your Favorite SciFi/FantasyMovieSoundtrack?]

2003-02-27 Thread G. D. Akin
I learned BASIC, COBOL, then Pascal and FORTRAN simultaneously, then PL/I and IBM 360 (yep, that long ago) Assembly Language. My favorite language is still Pascal though I have never seen it used outside the educational community. I have progammed over half a million lines of FORTRAN on a VAX

Re: Scouted; Earth Bids Farewell to Remote Pioneer Space Craft

2003-02-27 Thread G. D. Akin
- Original Message - From: Steve Sloan II [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 5:20 AM Subject: Re: Scouted; Earth Bids Farewell to Remote Pioneer Space Craft Gary L. Nunn wrote: SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Earth has bid its

Re: Computer Languages

2003-02-27 Thread Alberto Monteiro
The Fool wrote: Java is the spawn of satan, the ultimate evil. Get a grasp of C. Learn how pointers work. Learn it again. Learn it again. Then learn C++. There are 36 key words in C. It's not that difficult. I have to agree. When we see what the commercial competitors of

RE: Buffy is Over

2003-02-27 Thread Gary L. Nunn
The last ep of the 2001-2002 season suggested something like Dawn the Vampire Slayer Alberto Monteiro Buffy Faith Spinoff Mulled Christopher Buchanan-president of Mutant Enemy, the production company behind UPN's Buffy the Vampire Slayer-told SCI FI Wire that producers are considering a

Re: Computer Languages [was: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?]

2003-02-27 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 27 Feb 2003 at 3:37, The Fool wrote: From: Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fool said: Java is the spawn of satan, the ultimate evil. Cambridge University's Computer Laboratory now teach Java as their introductory language. What do you think of that? (When I did my

RE: Computer Languages [was: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?]

2003-02-27 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Baker ... Java is the spawn of satan, the ultimate evil. Cambridge University's Computer Laboratory now teach Java as their introductory language. What do you think of that? (When I did my

Re: Ireland's Dirty Laundry

2003-02-27 Thread Steve Sloan II
William T Goodall wrote: Well, religion is evil after all. At least, religion with too much secular power. That's what I've said for a while: Seperation of Church and State is at least as important for the Church as it is for the State, if the Church wants to avoid becoming evil.

US Middle Eastern policy, L3

2003-02-27 Thread Robert J. Chassell
I just read transcript of US President Bush's speech of 2003 Feb 26 on the future of Iraq. It provides an interesting insight into the public expression of US policy Middle East. The transcript came from the Sydney Morning Herald, Sydney, Australia:

Re: Well, he's ridden off on the magic trolley for the last time...

2003-02-27 Thread Julia Thompson
Adam C. Lipscomb wrote: Mr. Rogers, 74 years old. http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/TV/02/27/rogers.obit/index.html Dammit. There goes the neighborhood. :( Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: US Middle Eastern policy, L3

2003-02-27 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert J. Chassell wrote: I just read transcript of US President Bush's speech of 2003 Feb 26 on the future of Iraq. It provides an interesting insight into the public expression of US policy Middle East. The transcript came from the Sydney Morning Herald, Sydney, Australia:

Re: Well, he's ridden off on the magic trolley for the last time...

2003-02-27 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Well, he's ridden off on the magic trolley for the last time... Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 10:32:15 -0600 Adam C. Lipscomb wrote: Mr. Rogers, 74 years

RE: Well, he's ridden off on the magic trolley for the last time...

2003-02-27 Thread Nick Arnett
I grew up just outside Pittsburgh and used to take piano lessons across the street from his house. In high school, we put on a play at his church and he came by afterwards to thank us all and tell us That was very nice. We could use a lot more people who share such a great combination of

Ask Larry Niven

2003-02-27 Thread William T Goodall
Of interest to those on the list who like Niven's works: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/02/27/1425200 -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ A computer without a Microsoft operating system is like a dog

Re: Well, he's ridden off on the magic trolley for the last time...

2003-02-27 Thread Julia Thompson
Jon Gabriel wrote: From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Well, he's ridden off on the magic trolley for the last time... Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 10:32:15 -0600 Adam C. Lipscomb

RE: ready.gov parody sites

2003-02-27 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
http://www.cafeshops.com/be_ready -Original Message- From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 07:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ready.gov parody sites I was sent the URL http://www.idlewords.com/biological.html on Saturday.

Re: Computer Languages [was: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?]

2003-02-27 Thread Paul Walker
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 07:50:43AM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: And why isn't anyone singing the praises of Python in this thread?! I did! Kind of. to be finished quickly. Java makes sense for enterprise projects that need to be deployed widely. And isn't too speed critical :) C and C++

Re: Labour revolt

2003-02-27 Thread Richard Baker
Gautam said: Do you feel that _compared to the electorate_ that voted (overwhelmingly) for Labour in the last election that Labour MPs are very much more Old Labour? Not party members, but ordinary everyday voters? Yes, Labour MPs are more Old Labour than the electorate, but less so than

Re: Labour revolt

2003-02-27 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Richard Baker wrote: It must be nice to live in a country like the US that can have two seemingly reasonably competent parties at the same time... Yeah. Let us know when you find one, will you? :-) Marvin Long Austin, Texas Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft,

Spilled Perfume (was Re: GWB may owe Saddam a thank you forbeing stupid note)

2003-02-27 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 17:04 26-2-2003 -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote: Jeroen wrote: As the song goes, There's no use crying over spilled perfume. Interesting. There's no such song in English (at least not that I'm aware of), but there is a commonly used adage, There's no use crying over spilled milk. The song does

indonesia

2003-02-27 Thread The Fool
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapcf/southeast/02/25/etimor.warcrimes.ap/ index.html ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: illegal kentucky law

2003-02-27 Thread Russell Chapman
The Fool wrote: Kentucky General Assembly Measure seeks pro-commandments constitutional amendment FRANKFORT, Ky. -- A resolution for Congress to propose a constitutional amendment to allow posting of the Ten Commandments in public buildings was approved by a Senate committee today. I'm

Re: Buffy is Over

2003-02-27 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Gary L. Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 5:56 AM Subject: RE: Buffy is Over The last ep of the 2001-2002 season suggested something like Dawn the Vampire Slayer Alberto Monteiro

Official: Iraq Agrees to Destroy Missiles

2003-02-27 Thread Gary L. Nunn
Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com Official: Iraq Agrees to Destroy Missiles Right or wrong, good or bad, if GWB attacks Iraq now, he is going to make the US look like a bully. Gary Tread carefully maru ___

Re: Buffy is Over

2003-02-27 Thread Russell Chapman
Alberto Monteiro wrote: Please no spoilers!!! Season 2002-2003 begins on 2003-03-18 The last ep of the 2001-2002 season suggested something like Dawn the Vampire Slayer I get so confused. Which season starts off with the new high school having just been rebuilt and Dawn's first day at the

NASA emails from TheSmokingGun

2003-02-27 Thread Gary L. Nunn
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/nasaemail1.html ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Elie Weisel on Iraq

2003-02-27 Thread Gautam Mukunda
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20030227/ap_wo_en_ge/na_gen_us_europe_wiesel_1 The money quote: If Europe were to apply as much pressure on Saddam Hussein as (it) does on the United States and Britain, I think we could prevent war, he said. Gautam

The Ten Writers' Commandments According To the Trek Bible...

2003-02-27 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
Browsing thru the discussions the other night, I saw a reference to the Star Trek TNG Writer's Bible. The thought stuck in my mind, until I remembered that in the last Star Trek Convention I attended (back in '97 or '98) I did sign up, and attend, a How To Write For Star Trek seminar hosted by

Re: Buffy is Over

2003-02-27 Thread William T Goodall
On Thursday, February 27, 2003, at 11:52 pm, Russell Chapman wrote: Alberto Monteiro wrote: Please no spoilers!!! Season 2002-2003 begins on 2003-03-18 The last ep of the 2001-2002 season suggested something like Dawn the Vampire Slayer I get so confused. Which season starts off with the new

Re: Well, he's ridden off on the magic trolley for the last time...

2003-02-27 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 12:36 PM Subject: RE: Well, he's ridden off on the magic trolley for the last time... I grew up just outside Pittsburgh and used to take piano lessons

Re: Well, he's ridden off on the magic trolley for the last time...

2003-02-27 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 01:21 PM 2/27/2003 -0500, you wrote: From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Well, he's ridden off on the magic trolley for the last time... Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 10:32:15 -0600 Adam C.

Saw it RE: Gods and Generals

2003-02-27 Thread Kevin Tarr
I wrote: Girding myself to see Gods and Generals. Save yourself, its awful, darn awful. But will the Disney remake of the Alamo be worse? *bz* already happened, and it rocked. -j- GSV Davey... Davey Crockett! King of the Wild Frontier! I think they mean this:

Re: Well, he's ridden off on the magic trolley for the last time...

2003-02-27 Thread Jim Sharkey
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artificial stupidity

2003-02-27 Thread The Fool
http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2003/02/26/loebner_part_one/index.html http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2003/02/27/loebner_part_2/index.html ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: GWB may owe Saddam a thank you for being stupid note

2003-02-27 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 2/26/2003 10:28:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As for the other stuff - Bush didn't try to get Israel to commit suicide, no, the only thing which could have placated the Palestinians. You're okay with that, I'm guessing. The rest of it - while the

Re: GWB may owe Saddam a thank you for being stupid note

2003-02-27 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 2/26/2003 10:28:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As for the other stuff - Bush didn't try to get Israel to commit suicide, no, the only thing which could have placated the Palestinians. You're okay with that, I'm guessing. The rest of it - while the

Re: illegal kentucky law

2003-02-27 Thread William T Goodall
On Thursday, February 27, 2003, at 11:43 pm, Russell Chapman wrote: The Fool wrote: Kentucky General Assembly Measure seeks pro-commandments constitutional amendment FRANKFORT, Ky. -- A resolution for Congress to propose a constitutional amendment to allow posting of the Ten Commandments in

Re: GWB may owe Saddam a thank you for being stupid note

2003-02-27 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 2/26/2003 10:28:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He would, eventually, have admitted everything, certainly. I didn't suggest reading him his rights. If we couldn't get information out of him, well, the Israelis or the Egyptians could. We _did_ all

Re: Researchers link fatty diet with Alzheimer's disease

2003-02-27 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/scitech/SciTechRepublish_787269.htm Researchers link fatty diet with Alzheimer's disease A diet high in unsaturated, unhydrogenated fats such as vegetable products and some oils may help lower the risk of Alzheimer's

Re: artificial stupidity

2003-02-27 Thread William T Goodall
On Friday, February 28, 2003, at 02:31 am, The Fool wrote: http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2003/02/26/loebner_part_one/ index.html http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2003/02/27/loebner_part_2/index.html Now *that* was funny! I'm still giggling! -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

credit

2003-02-27 Thread The Fool
Interesting article talking about credit, inflation, deflation, the economy, etc. http://www.financialsense.com/transcriptions/Prechter2003.htm ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: GWB may owe Saddam a thank you for being stupid note

2003-02-27 Thread Bemmzim
. Bob, get a grip. You know I like you, so I'm not saying this lightly. To go - very briefly - over the arsenic thing, the Bush Administration decided to _review_ a decision by the Clinton Administration to _decrease_ acceptable levels of arsenic below current levels, a decision

Re: Well, he's ridden off on the magic trolley for the last time...

2003-02-27 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 7:49 PM Subject: Re: Well, he's ridden off on the magic trolley for the last time... Just heard something funny, any of course completely untrue: Mr.

Re: 'pop' music is dead

2003-02-27 Thread The Fool
From: Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fool said: Yup, more and more homogenized CRAP. But does that really matter as long as lots of good music is being produced too? I think that peer-to-peer filesharing provides an excellent facility for exploring new types of music, and there's

Re: Computer Languages [was: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?]

2003-02-27 Thread The Fool
From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Baker ... Java is the spawn of satan, the ultimate evil. Cambridge University's Computer Laboratory now teach Java as their introductory

Re: illegal kentucky law

2003-02-27 Thread The Fool
From: Russell Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fool wrote: Kentucky General Assembly Measure seeks pro-commandments constitutional amendment FRANKFORT, Ky. -- A resolution for Congress to propose a constitutional amendment to allow posting of the Ten Commandments in public buildings was

Re: 'pop' music is dead

2003-02-27 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 10:02 PM Subject: Re: 'pop' music is dead But where will this good music be produced? (it's not even being produced now). This system will be a

Re: Computer Languages [was: Your Favorite SciFi/FantasyMovieSoundtrack?]

2003-02-27 Thread Doug Pensinger
G. D. Akin wrote: I learned BASIC, COBOL, then Pascal and FORTRAN simultaneously, then PL/I and IBM 360 (yep, that long ago) Assembly Language. My favorite language is still Pascal though I have never seen it used outside the educational community. I have progammed over half a million lines of

Re: 'pop' music is dead

2003-02-27 Thread The Fool
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] But where will this good music be produced? (it's not even being produced now). This system will be a computer telling people what they will like. It will also feedback upon itself. Record companies will only

Re: Computer Languages [was: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy MovieSoundtrack?]

2003-02-27 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 05:24 PM 2/26/03 -0600, Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 5:13 PM Subject: Re: Computer Languages [was: Your Favorite SciFi/FantasyMovieSoundtrack?] David wrote (that's David H., I

Re: Computer Languages [was: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy MovieSoundtrack?]

2003-02-27 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 01:06 PM 2/26/03 -0600, Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:19 AM Subject: Re: Computer Languages [was: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?] On Wed, Feb

Re: Computer Languages [was: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy MovieSoundtrack?]

2003-02-27 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 08:01 PM 2/27/03 +0900, you wrote: I learned BASIC, COBOL, then Pascal and FORTRAN simultaneously, then PL/I and IBM 360 (yep, that long ago) Assembly Language. My favorite language is still Pascal though I have never seen it used outside the educational community. I once worked for a

Re: EU Warns Iraq It Faces 'Last Chance'

2003-02-27 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Erik Reuter wrote: On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 09:46:12PM -0800, Matt Grimaldi wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: I think the war decision is mostly dependent on the President, even if Congress technically has the power to declare war. Anyway, I can't see Congress going against the

Re: Computer Languages [was: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy MovieSoundtrack?]

2003-02-27 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Alberto Monteiro wrote: Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: If I have to choose between coding COBOL and coding RPG, I would much rather go for COBOL. What is RPG? I know two things that use this AFT, but none of them are computer languages. RPG is/was a programming language that grew out of