RE: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror

Note to Keith: saying "meme" a lot doesn't make you intelligible. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Henson > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:13 PM > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Subject: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terr

RE: Winning the War on Terror

Dan, I'm quoting you extensively not to annoy everyone else but out of astonishment: > It may be a good time to repeat what I posted about the local Islamic > society. They are members, along with the local synagogue > and our church > and a few other churches, of Faiths Together...an ecumenical

RE: America the Theocracy

> belief of a movement called Christian Reconstruction, and > DeMar is its Tom Paine. > Many followers accord him the status of transforming an > arcane offshoot of Calvinism into a political dreadnought -- > and of launching that theological warship at a speech 20 years ago. I was forced and

Re: Winning the War on Terror

On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 09:08:07PM -0800, David Land wrote: > Sorry, but I feel compelled to state that Islam didn't hang mutilated > corpses from bridges or dance around the bridge or chant "death to > Americans." A mob of deranged people did that. How do you know? I haven't seen any good eviden

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Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror

At 03:34 PM 30/03/04 -0800, you wrote: > > The truth is that sufficient violence ends violence. > > That is true enough. But that only works when you can seal > the outlines of the geographical area and flood the same with > your troops. It also works if you are violent enough to convince the rest

RE: 20/20 Hindsight

> Mike Lee wrote: > > > ... I think they better keep a civil tongue in their heads because > > we're all tired of it. > > Et tu, Mike Et me, Dave. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: Winning the War on Terror

> You're not being consistent. You mentioned the figure of 80% > (or 65%) of Muslems *worldwide*, but now you've suddenly > switched to "Muslems in Muslem countries". However, Muslems > can be found all around the globe. > > Your credibility rating is going downhill rapidly, mate. > Assuming y

RE: Winning the War on Terror

Oh, man, I want that on at T-shirt: "If you believe crazy shit, you're gonna do crazy shit!" ROTFLMAO > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William T Goodall > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 4:40 PM > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Subject:

Re: The Vatican and the US elections

At 08:51 PM 3/28/2004 -0600 Dan Minette wrote: >> Your raising the old saws about Catholic plots to take over the country >>is >> tantamount to prohibiting the Catholic Church from freely exercising its >> relgion. Under your principles, the Catholic Church could not >> disassociate itself from a

Re: America the Theocracy

Deborah Harrell wrote: > > > The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > A few Excerpts. Read the whole thing, it's quite > > long: > > <> > > America the theocracy > > > I couldn't access the article, but here is one I > could: > http://www.buzzfla

Re: Winning the War on Terror

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OTOH what religion does dance in the streets when innocents are killed? Don't forget hanging mutilated corpses on bridges and dancing around the bridge chanting "death to Americans"... Sorry, but I feel compelled to state that Islam didn't hang mutilated corpses from br

Re: America the Theocracy

From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: America the Theocracy Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 18:52:45 -0600 At 06:25 PM 4/1/04, William T Goodall wrote: On 2 Apr 2004, at 12:46 am, Ronn!Blanken

Re: Winning the War on Terror

- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 5:48 PM Subject: RE: Winning the War on Terror > > OTOH what religion does dance in the streets when innocents > > are killed? > > Don't forget hanging mutilated corpses on bridges and

Re: America the Theocracy

From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: America the Theocracy Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 19:18:31 -0500 On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 05:46:11PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > You are repeating yours

Re: 20/20 Hindsight

On Apr 1, 2004, at 12:20 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: Gautam Mukunda wrote: Germany wasn't involved in Pearl Harbor either, yet FDR chose to focus American efforts on the defeat of Germany. He sold this to the American people, before the war, with far more deceptive tactics than anything Bush has e

Re: America the Theocracy

- Original Message - From: "Ronn!Blankenship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 6:53 PM Subject: Re: America the Theocracy > At 06:18 PM 4/1/04, Erik Reuter wrote: > >On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 05:46:11PM -0600, Ronn!Blankensh

Re: Winning the War on Terror

At 06:39 PM 4/1/04, William T Goodall wrote: As long as people believe crazy shit (religion) they will do crazy shit. And we don't want people to do crazy shit do we? I don't. It's really uncomfortable when I go to the bathroom and it comes out all crazy . . . -- Ronn! :) ___

Re: America the Theocracy

> From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > At 06:25 PM 4/1/04, William T Goodall wrote: > > >On 2 Apr 2004, at 12:46 am, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > > > >>At 05:43 PM 4/1/04, William T Goodall wrote: > >>>Religion is about crazy people blowing stuff up. They spout all their > >>>weird wack-b

Re: America the Theocracy

At 06:18 PM 4/1/04, Erik Reuter wrote: On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 05:46:11PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > You are repeating yourself . . . Whereas you almost never write anything worth repeating, or reading, for that matter... The evidence suggests that you can't help yourself, though . . .

Re: How the fish got its fingers

At 06:16 PM 4/1/04, The Fool wrote: <> Revealed: How the fish got its fingers By Steve Connor, Science Editor 02 April 2004 Interesting. Thanks for posting this! -- Ronn! :)

Re: America the Theocracy

At 06:25 PM 4/1/04, William T Goodall wrote: On 2 Apr 2004, at 12:46 am, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 05:43 PM 4/1/04, William T Goodall wrote: Religion is about crazy people blowing stuff up. They spout all their weird wack-brained nonsense about underwear or diets but at the end of the day they

Re: Winning the War on Terror

On 2 Apr 2004, at 12:48 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OTOH what religion does dance in the streets when innocents are killed? Don't forget hanging mutilated corpses on bridges and dancing around the bridge chanting "death to Americans"... Any civilization that permits this deserves some serious r

Re: America the Theocracy

On 2 Apr 2004, at 12:46 am, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 05:43 PM 4/1/04, William T Goodall wrote: Religion is about crazy people blowing stuff up. They spout all their weird wack-brained nonsense about underwear or diets but at the end of the day they just want to kill you if you don't agree with

Re: America the Theocracy

On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 05:46:11PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > You are repeating yourself . . . Whereas you almost never write anything worth repeating, or reading, for that matter... -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mc

How the fish got its fingers

<> Revealed: How the fish got its fingers By Steve Connor, Science Editor 02 April 2004 A two-lane highway in America has helped scientists to explain one of life's most enduring mysteries: how fish grew the fingers th

RE: Winning the War on Terror

> OTOH what religion does dance in the streets when innocents > are killed? Don't forget hanging mutilated corpses on bridges and dancing around the bridge chanting "death to Americans"... Any civilization that permits this deserves some serious re-arrangement of their belief system. Apologetics

Re: America the Theocracy

At 05:43 PM 4/1/04, William T Goodall wrote: Religion is about crazy people blowing stuff up. They spout all their weird wack-brained nonsense about underwear or diets but at the end of the day they just want to kill you if you don't agree with them. Religion is EVIL and must be extirpated . Y

Re: America the Theocracy

Religion is about crazy people blowing stuff up. They spout all their weird wack-brained nonsense about underwear or diets but at the end of the day they just want to kill you if you don't agree with them. Religion is EVIL and must be extirpated . -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] W

RE: Winning the War on Terror

> The reason some Islamic countries are generating suicide > warriors is that > the women are raising kids faster than the economy expands. Is this an effect of polygamy in middle eastern countries? Other poor countries spend a lot of effort raising children that die of horrible diseases. This s

Re: Winning the War on Terror

On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 09:43:31PM +0200, John Doe wrote: > Oh great. They asked 1,220 people; not much given that Pakistan has > a population of approx. 150 million. I'd make a hell of a lot of > reservations before declaring that 65% of a country's population > consists of supporters of Osama bi

More Incompetance from the Mayberry Machiavellis

<> Small Steps Towards Justice...Very, Very Small Steps Really...these are some incredibly tiny steps. Lilliputians would marvel at the near-atomic size of Bush's bold progress on terrorism. <

RE: Winning the War on Terror

From: "Mike Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Killer Bs Discussion'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Winning the War on Terror Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:48:04 -0800 > >Then let me say it again: Every Muslim who's a fan of UBL is > an asshole. > >That

RE: The color of truth (L3) (part 1)

From: "Mike Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Killer Bs Discussion'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: The color of truth (L3) (part 1) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:43:10 -0800 Islam is plain nasty. Racist, woman-hating, implacably oppposed to democratic

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Re: The color of truth (L3) (part 1)

> Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do you have a link for this information? Thanks. > I remember reading it in Vanity Fair...a quick > Google comes up with this from the Boston Herald: > http://news.bostonherald.com/opinion/view.bg?a

Re: America the Theocracy

> From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > A few Excerpts. Read the whole thing, it's quite > > long: > > <> > > America the theocracy <>

Re: America the Theocracy

> The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A few Excerpts. Read the whole thing, it's quite > long: > <> > America the theocracy I couldn't access the article, but here is one I could: http://www.buzzflash.com/farrell/04/03/far04007.html 'On a Miss

The Mayberry Machiavellis Clown Show Continues

<> Found notes may show Bush plan on Clarke By Pamela Hess UPI Pentagon Ccorrespondent Published 3/31/2004 12:37 PM View printer-friendly version WASHINGTON, March 31 (UPI) -- The White House was worried about the damaging testimony of

Re: The color of truth (L3) (part 1)

--- Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you have a link for this information? Thanks. > I've been trying to keep up with the > statements/counterstatements on this issue -- thanks > to all who have posted articles here. > > Debbi I remember reading it in Vanity Fair...a quick Google

Re: Need help: Hearing aids

Not sure how much help it will be, but this might be a starting place www.asha.org (American Speech and Hearing Assoc) http://www.asha.org/public/hearing/treatment/(seems to have lots of info on hearing aids) Hope it helps, Dee > Does anyone have any experience or knowledge of hearings aid

Re: The color of truth (L3) (part 1)

Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Incidentally, as for that famous escape of the > Saudis. > Do you know who made the decision to let them out > of the country? It was, well, your hero, Richard > Clarke. Do you have a link for this information? Thanks. I've been trying to keep up w

Re: The Physics of High Heels

> Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >At 05:07 PM 3/31/04, Deborah Harrell wrote: > > >I wrote: > >http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/84/98130.htm?printing=true > > > "...Researchers claim that the formula spelled > >out below can tell the maximum heel height a person > > > can handle

Re: Abortion and Denial

> "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In addition to this, I would add the recent > ballyhooed case of a woman > causing the death of her unborn child by refusing a > Caesarean Section who > is now being accused of murder.While the facts > of the case are in > doubt, let us just as

Re: Brin: Any Relation?

> I can answer that -- not that David knows of. > > It's good to keep in mind that a lot of Jewish > people have no family > records that are more than about 60 years old. Thanks Nick. While it's true that most of my 3rd & 4th cousins died in Europe and their family records were destroyed, the

Re: 20/20 Hindsight

Mike Lee wrote: ... I think they better keep a civil tongue in their heads because we're all tired of it. Et tu, Mike ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: The color of truth (L3) (part 1)

> Incidentally, as for that famous escape of the Saudis. > Do you know who made the decision to let them out of the > country? It was, well, your hero, Richard Clarke. > Hmmm. God knows I don't want to defend Richard Clarke, but from what I've read about this, he was just the waterboy on this

RE: The color of truth (L3) (part 1)

> Could you define what you mean by a "fundie religion?" I > know that there are people who are fundamentalists and > churches that are fundamentalist, but "fundamentalist > religion" strikes me as a non sequitur. Any religious group/believer that thinks they have revealed truth from God, the

RE: 20/20 Hindsight

> > What if the troubles in Northern Ireland start up again? > Will that be part of the War Against Terror? Or the Red > Brigade in Italy or ... Last I heard the IRA wasn't interested in Total World Domination. As for the rest of 'em, yeah, I think they better keep a civil tongue in their hea

Re: Jewish records [was: Brin: Any Relation?]

Alberto Monteiro wrote: Nick Arnett wrote: It's good to keep in mind that a lot of Jewish people have no family records that are more than about 60 years old. A lot or a few? AFAIK the genealogical database of jewish families are the best in the world. Some can even trace it back to Aaron's sons

Re: The color of truth (L3) (part 1)

Mike Lee wrote: ... Every fundie religion does it. Could you define what you mean by a "fundie religion?" I know that there are people who are fundamentalists and churches that are fundamentalist, but "fundamentalist religion" strikes me as a non sequitur. To my understanding, a fundamentalis

Jewish records [was: Brin: Any Relation?]

Nick Arnett wrote: > > It's good to keep in mind that a lot of Jewish people have no family > records that are more than about 60 years old. > A lot or a few? AFAIK the genealogical database of jewish families are the best in the world. Some can even trace it back to Aaron's sons - and prove it wit

Re: Question Regarding Richard Clarke

iaamoac wrote: i.e. what wrongdoing is Clarke accusing the Bush Administration of? Extra points given for summaries posted in a Brin-L'ers own words, rather than a link or a re-post. He certainly reinforced the idea that the administration was looking for an excuse to go to war against Iraq

Re: Brin: Any Relation?

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RE: 20/20 Hindsight

> From: Ronn!Blankenship [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >I wish I knew when the post-war period might be. There doesn't seem > >to be any specific end point to the war on terror. At any time we > >could say "OK, we're done". > > I think that a lot of people would consider that a necessary¹ > c

Abortion and Denial

Pro-choice author William Saletan has recently posted a provocative article on how the pro-choice movement is in denial: " Each time pro-lifers have tried in recent years to treat the embryo or fetus as a person in one context or another, pro-choicers have responded by treating the fetus as a non

Re: The color of truth (L3) (part 1)

Gautam Mukunda wrote: > > So other than the fact that no Administration in > American history has done more to oppose the desires > of the Saudi government than that of George W. Bush, > what's your evidence that they've been bought off > again? > It just proves how Evil Bush is, because he was b

Re: The color of truth (L3) (part 1)

--- Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But wait, I thought they were Republicans. Or maybe > its just that some > Republicans are honorary Saudis. After all, the G. > H. W. Bush library was > built with help from his Saudi friends. Then > there's the Carlyl Group > where the Saudi's

Re: 20/20 Hindsight

--- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Um, didn't Germany declare war on the US shortly > after Pearl Harbor? > > Julia Absolutely. But FDR made a strategic decision - he actually made this _before the war began, by the way - to concentrate American forces on the defeat of Germany

Re: 20/20 Hindsight

On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 04:40:55PM -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote: > I was, of course, responding to your typically intemperate and foolish > comment that the war was on because of the liberation of Iraq. Actually, I think you misread the original. I believe you and Tom interpret "the war is on" dif

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SFBC & Kiln People

Just received my periodic mailing from the SFBC. They have "Kiln People" for $2.99. George A P.S. Plus $14.95 for shipping and handling ;-) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l