Actually, bugs/design flaws caught during the design phase cost far less
than those discovered during the build.
Doug
GSV Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance
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Yea, what's the deal? Anyone home? Anyone read anything good/interesting?
I recently listened to For Whom the Bell Tolls and am now listening to a
book called The Mongoliad, Greg Bear being one of several co-authors. The
Hemingway was very stark and depressing and a bit obsessed with death but
this, I just searched you on g+ and added you to my Brin
circle!
I wonder if there's a way to streamline or transparentize the process.
• Warren • off console • w azkrmc.com • h nightwares.com •
On Sep 19, 2011, at 21:58, Doug Pensinger brig...@zo.com wrote:
I have a
Brin-l circle on G
Charlie wrote:
Living In A Land Down Under
You better run, you better take cover.
Doug
Californication
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Personally, I like this format over FB, and maybe over G+ too. The
fan sites have much less a sense of community than this list has (or
had). I use Gmail and it automatically hides quoted text so that's
not a big issue (it also has the best spam filter by far that I've
come across).
FB is good
Me neither.
Hi Ticia, good to hear from you.
Doug
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Matt Grimaldi matzeb...@yahoo.com wrote:
I DON'T get such messages when sending on the list.
-- Matt
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G+ is cool in that you can set up different circles of people and then
post to one, a few or all of them. You can have a brin-l circle and
use it kind of like the email list since, at the click of a button you
can view just the brin-l (or family or friend etc) posts.
There are a few
Hi Jo Anne. Just go to your apps store on your smarter than me phone
(I've got one too) and type in G+
DB just friended me (or whatever you call it on +). I'm glad _he's_
got a short memory.
Doug
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Dave Land dml...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jul 22, 2011, at 5:45 PM,
Alberto wrote:
Try replacing breastfeeding with something else, like
Hammer and Sickle or cleft lip. They shouldn't be
allowed to censor and criminalize something that is
not criminal. If they want to censor images of people
smoking marijuana, or images of children with guns
(and I bet they
Jon wrote:
Anyone with clearance to that level is
personally responsible and signed an oath.
23-year-old, Bradley Manning, a US army
intelligence analyst, e-mailed former hacker,
Adrian Lamo, bragging that he leaked the
diplomatic cables to WikiLeaks, along with a
highly classified video
There seems to be overwhelming sentiment against Wikileaks' release of
confidential documents and I was wondering how people here (some of
whom may have read Brin's Transparent Society) felt about it.
I'm generally for transparency and haven't heard of anything yet that
is beyond mildly
Dan wrote:
Well, the US did prosper from wars it has been in, but that's fairly unique.
Germany didn't, France didn't. The USSR didn't; the Cold War broke them.
Eventually, but they were our supposed equals for the better part of
forty years and one can easily imagine scenarios in which they
Dan wrote:
Me: First, let me assure anyone reading this that I in no way advocate
war as a solution for anything, I'm just discussing the possible
consequences of the State's current situation.
Sure, if they invaded Europe in '79 and Carter wasn't willing to start
Armageddon. But, the
Dan wrote:
It is quite possible that we falter over the next two years, sliding back
into depression. One of the most depressing figures is that the average GDP
growth rate for the last 30 years will result in unemployment increasing,
since we need 3%/year growth to tread water.
Not what I
Dan wrote:
So, we had a US economy that was really doing nothing, but lots of money
looking for a US home...thus real estate, which the Risk Assessment Model
said couldn't go down more than a couple %.
Add to that the (hundreds of?) billions of dollars of tax cuts Bush
gave to the wealthiest
Keith wrote:
Unfortunately I have no ideas about how to get this going, at least
not in the US. I think a rule change favoring longer term investments
in physical plant will be needed before anyone will consider any such
ideas.
It needs to be recognized as a matter of national security.
Dan Minette
That's what makes the Tea Party so interesting. They are actually small
government believers. I don't say I agree with them, I have strong
differences with them, but their candidates do have a self-consistent
message. I think most folks at their rallies don't think through
Leftists should recognize the right has a valid
argument about wasteful government spending.
I would argue that the right (the one that was in power anyway) was
the one doing all the wasteful spending. The idea that the right is
fiscally conservative _in practice_ is a farce. I'm not saying
Electronic forums are the ideal venue for brainstorming solutions for social
issues, as you can take time to edit your comments. It also affords more
people an opportunity to be less passive and have a voice. Moderated sites
work best to stay on topic and maintain civilized discourse.
As
Hello old friends, I'm still hangin'
Anybody reading a good book?
I'm struggling through Hamilton's book Pandora's Star and hoping that
Bank's new one will be in Kindle form soon.
Maybe I'll re-read Anathem
Doug
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 5:16 PM, kananda...@aol.com wrote:
Finishing up a 3
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:44 AM, Euan Ritchie e...@ritchie.net.nz wrote:
They also believe...
...that some cosmic jewish zombie, who is his own father, can make you
live forever if you symbolicawy eat his flesh and telepathically tell
him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove
Is the Tea Party fundamentally racist? Or is it just coincidental
that it formed as a black man was taking office? For years,
Republicans were in office busting the budget and passing bills like
Medicare D which was completely unfunded and will cost us something
like $72 B a year. Where was the
I've got two grown kids (30 and 32) and two grandkids (5,3) and while
there were moments of profound unhappiness and extreme distress during
their upbringing, nothing in my life even comes close to the sense of
fulfillment and accomplishment I get from having raised them.
From the article:
About
Jeroen wrote:
Why do you ask, Doug? Planning on a second attempt at building a List
Archive?
No, just interested in reading some of the old threads.
Doug
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Nick; are the archives accessed from the list page all that are available?
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Dan Minette wrote:
Well, I'm just pointing out that the California wants to protect the whole
coast but has been happy driving cars with gas refined near Houston from
offshore GOM. Why is the GOM shoreline so much lower in value the
California shoreline? And, if you stop offshore
My mistake. Posted on a fan page for Niel Stephenson. Stephenson has
no facebook presence.
Doug
On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Doug Pensinger brig...@zo.com wrote:
Posted to Facebook by Niel Stephenson
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comicsid=1868
Doug
Hi Dan, I'm glad to see you're still around and that you've escaped Houston.
You wrote:
Doug, as shocking and horrendous as the accident was, (the entire bottom
casing was blown up miles by the gas pressure) I am no fan of NIMBY. If you
want to stop drilling for oil, then California should
Posted to Facebook by Niel Stephenson
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comicsid=1868
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Alberto wrote:
Yes and no. I seldom check my e-mails these days, and I spend most
of my free internet time in wikis.
Hey Alberto, how are you? I heard you had a little rainstorm down
there a few weeks ago; what was it 21 inches?
What wikis?
Doug
Alberto wrote:
I hate inches :-(
Oops, sorry. Over 50 cm then?
Doug
Short for communist, I think 8^)
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So Dan,. are you still here? Do you still want to talk me into
putting rigs off of Big Sur?
Doug
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Ahem. Hello? Anyone here?
I'm kind of curious about what happened to the volume of mail in
groups like Brin-L and the Culture list. I have an idea that at
first, several years ago now, the emergence of blogging sucked a lot
of people away from list mail. And now social networking sites have
Bruce wrote:
Facebook is a pretty terrible forum for almost anything serious. I've never
seen a site that seems to discourage any kind of in depth discussion so
effectively by design. The notes feature is the closest thing it has to
an actual writing-based feature, and even that is hidden
John wrote:
I agree with most of what you say, but I just haven't felt like
starting any discussions on this list recently. The two main things
that I have previously been interested in discussing here are SF and
politics. From my point of view, the current political situation in
the US is a
Anyone else seen this?
http://www.storyofstuff.com/
Doug
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Dave wrote:
Trent has opined similarly in the past, with a tone that says that a
significant human die-off is perfectly acceptable to him. On at least
one occasion, I believe he was invited to go first. I am of neither the
opinion that such a die-off is acceptable nor that he should be first
Trent wrote:
Republicans would have to be suicidal idiots to play ball with Obama and
the Democrats on health care reform. They all involve increased
interference by the Federal Government in the health care market, which
is a cultural no-no in America. (Leaving people uninsured is also a
Alberto wrote:
Probably not, we are very stupid when it comes down to the math
used in astrodynamics, chemistry or economy.
Alberto Monteiro
Or very sarcastic.
Doug
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On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Dave Land dml...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 8, 2010, at 2:50 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Wikipedia once began a project dedicated to the memories of the
victims of 9/11, but latter the scope was changed to include
the memories of everyone. I guess the project is
Nick,
I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. My condolences to you and your family.
Doug
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Ronn! wrote:
Complete article:
Op-Ed Columnist - Heaven and Nature - NYTimes.com -
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/21/opinion/21douthat1.html
http://tinyurl.com/ye43c8x
He concludes:
Religion exists, in part, precisely because humans aren’t at home
amid these cruel rhythms. We stand half
I saw Avatar last night in the Imax/3D format. It was by far the most
awesome audio/visual experience I've ever had. The story was fair to
good, but the eye candy was spectacular. I wouldn't have thought I
could get vertigo while sitting in a comfortable arm chair. Cool; see
it and pay the
Bruce Bostwick wrote:
Not as tall an order as it might sound, using something like VASIMR which
has an Isp of up to 5000 s. Once you get out of the atmosphere, a higher
efficiency engine system can spread out the delta-V across a fairly large
period of time, and with enough engines and
So??? I tried signing up via their website but haven't heard
anything. What's the scoop?
Doug
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Julia wrote:
It's amazing what you find needs doing when you finally have all your kids
in school for a full day for the first time ever. I might have most of it
done by the time school gets out in early June!
I've heard the same thing about retirement; my brother-in-law and his
brother,
Debbi wrote:
Hey, guess who's posting from home for the first time?
(I did have some serious help getting stuff hooked up, and I still hate this
laptop's 'finger mouse.' -- hmm, hadn't thought of what that conjures up, but
it's entirely apt...)
Congrats on the new job, and on getting your
50 years of space exploration
http://books.nationalgeographic.com/map/map-day/index
Doug
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Looks cool, count me in please. Use brig...@zo.com
Thanks,
Doug
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Wayne Eddy we...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
Hi all, I just got access to Google Wave, and I was wondering if there was
anyone on the list who might be interested in helping my try it out by
joining a
Pat wrote:
I have a Sony 505. The books on my reader are on my reader and on my
desktop, not on my account on someone else's server. If anyone wants to
delete them [think 1984] or whatever, they have to physically steal my
reader and then delete the book. I own them outright. Nobody else has
John wrote:
But hopefully none of that is necessary in the future. I just want to see
the book selection increase. It still boggles my mind why so few books
released before the Kindle, but in the last 30 years or so, have come out in
Kindle or other e-book formats. Someone must have a
Dave wrote:
Amen, brother! I think that the harsh immune response from some quarters
to the merest mention of religion is a symptom of our general inability to
be generous, kind, civil, open and _listening_.
Yes but, calling the U.S. a Christian nation is a little beyond the
merest mention.
I just finished reading a bio of the Sun King, Louis XIV of France. I
was inspired to read it after having read The Three Musketeers which
actually took place during the reign of 14's father (maybe) Louis XIII
and by Stephenson's Baroque Cycle which I actually finished a few
years ago.
TTM was a
Ray wrote:
The change of seasons is not as obvious here as it seemed to be in the
States as we toured around last year. We don't go from ridiculous negative
temperatures to extreme heat as for example in Colorado. It's gradually
getting warmer now (the low 20s C) and it looks like we might be
John Williams wrote:
Actually, the source of the article is the author, James V. DeLong.
The publisher is The American, and the owner of the publisher is the
American Enterprise Institute.
The latter being one of the driving forces behind the failed
conservative revolution and the miserable
John Williams wrote:
[1] I know that reformers claim the government option would not be
subsidized, but I find that extremely hard to believe. I'm afraid it
would end up sucking down taxpayer money quite soon.
Who's paying for the uninsured right now? Are we just telling them
they are SOL
Ray wrote:
I fail to see what difference it makes how often I am involved. Surely this
should be the case with or without my participation!
Hi Ray, glad to see you're still hanging out. Are you ready for
spring, or does it make that much of a difference?
I know you were kidding, but as far
Ronn! wrote:
God bless America,
Land that I love!
Stand beside her, and guide her
Thru the night with a light from above.
Or, as someone I know once sang it, from a bulb
Doug
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John Williams wrote:
They changed the link. Here is the new one:
http://american.com/archive/2009/august/maybe-we-should-spend-more-on-healthcare
Yikes. Let's first look at the source of the article, The American
Enterprise Institute. Described in Wiki as some of the leading
architects of
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 8:23 AM, John Williamsjwilliams4...@gmail.com wrote:
DeLong (the other one) on health care costs and health insurance reform.
http://american.com/archive/2009/maybe-we-should-spend-more-on-healthcare
| So what should be done about healthcare costs? Many things,
John Williams wrote:
Can some complex systems be analyzed by comparison to a more simple
system? Sure, there are plenty of examples, although most of them are
in the physical sciences rather than the social sciences. Asimov's
psychohistory made a great story, but it does not work in
John Williams wrote:
So now you implicitly claim not only to be able to predict what would
happen if the government did not intervene immediately after the
various investment bank problems, but also what would have happened
many months after that under the influence of unknown intervention
John Williams wrote:
Taking a complicated situation and equating it to a simple one, and
then assuming that what holds for the simple situation holds for the
complex one, is likely to lead to incorrect information, flawed
decisions, and overconfidence in one's ability to predict the
rob wrote:
I will not brew Decaf.
Decaf is the mind-killer.
Decaf brings the little sleep
that leads to total oblivion.
I will embrace my caffeine.
I will brew my beverages and
let them... flow through me,
and when they are gone,
I will remain...alert
wtf are you doing in a workcube
Dan wrote:
I origionally just hit reply to while multitaking and the returned it just
to John. I'm sorry that it didn't go to the list, but I'm using my
portable which does not have my main sorter. BTW, the below is not
intended as a flame, but an accurate statement of what the posts
John Williams wrote:
In which case, the analogy is useless for drawing conclusions, unless
you first list every similarity and difference to the actual
situation. In which case, why not discuss the actual situation instead
of absurd burning building or sports analogies?
As for meaning of
Julia wrote:
Reply:
You can get that on a t-shirt. I gave such a t-shirt to my brother-in-law.
(His caffeine addiction is legendary. In fact, the first time I met him,
the biggest impression he made on me was with the concoction he was using to
stay awake for an all-nighter --
John Williams wrote:
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Doug Pensingerbrig...@zo.com wrote:
How ironic is it that someone who claims to be such a libertarian is
so adamant about restricting my rhetorical style!
When did I claim to be a libertarian?
Perhaps you did not, I apologize if I
John wrote:
I think I understood your point. Mine was that economists are not
really experts in any useful knowledge. They cannot predict the course
of the economy any better than non-economists.
Also, I dispute your claim that the vast majority of economist are in
favor of throwing money
John wrote:
And? Is there more to what you are saying?
In your initial post in this thread, particularly in the last
paragraph, you seemed to be belittling the idea that we are in the
midst of a major economic crisis. That's what I was responding to.
Perhaps I was mistaken.
In any case, I
John wrote:
So, it was a one-two punch. Make the situation sound unimaginably bad,
and then persuade people that he saved them from disaster.
Or you could make it sound like the situation was overblown and
convince people that they were just trying to make heroes of
themselves.
I find it
Charlie wrote:
Yes - it's the simple principle that not everyone is rational about
everything in their lives. In Maher's case, he has a mammoth blind spot on
biomedical science. I don't think it's irredemable in his case.
Did anyone see the show last night? He interviewed Jay-Z and Bill
John wrote:
The point is, because of his actions, we do not know and cannot know.
Considering the vast amounts of other people's money that he has spent
and the great moral hazard that he has created, the responsible thing
to have done would have been to have carefully studied the situation,
John wrote:
I wrote:
I have to go back to the burning building analogy.
Which, as I already explained, is a useless analogy and not worth
further comment.
Because it renders your whole speculative argument moot? Your so
called explanation was:
It would also be silly to think the US
John wrote:
You seem to be worried about damage that might have happened if the
government had not intervened without allowing enough time for the
situation to play out and be well understood. I do not deny that it is
possible that there could be some cost from not intervening swiftly.
But
Rob wrote:
Is anyone else seeing medical related construction on this scale in their
area?
Not here. They've actually closed a few hospitals around here even
though the population continues to increase. I guess Kaiser has built
a few hospitals, but nothing on the scale you're talking
John Williams wrote:
Maybe (I don't think so, but no matter). More importantly, I think
the thread of thought has been lost here. The point is, would
non-fireman do that if the firemen decided to wait and observe, as
Doug suggested?
My point was that we look to our experts in a crisis. If
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 7:52 PM, John Williamsjwilliams4...@gmail.com wrote:
If he predicts a recovery every year, he may get lucky and be right
sometime! Well, if he didn't permanently injure his hand patting
himself on the back in his speech last Friday...Hey, look at me, I
prevented
John Williams wrote:
Economists are no better at predicting the future than anyone else.
How many economists do you know that got rich investing? The vast
majority of economists do no better than average at investing.
Of course economists like to persuade others that they can predict the
Richard wrote:
A few people have been removed, a couple of them long term listees and one
was a moderator here. We definitely are not queasy when it comes to pulling
the pin.
I'm definitely queasy about it, but I guess I'm not part of we.
I'm queasy as well. To my knowledge the only
Jim wrote:
The passive-agressive posts, though? I don't mind admitting that kind of
stuff gets under my skin.
Jim
Admitting weakness maru
Now see, I guess I don't understand what passive-aggressive means because I
would think that his confrontational, sometimes sarcastic style has any
Rob wrote:
Bruce wrote:
(Type mismatch error: expected boolean value but found string 'cake'.
Input not parsed.)
The cake is a lie?
Apparently the cake is neither true nor false.
Doug
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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:36 AM, John Williams jwilliams4...@gmail.comwrote:
It is interesting what some people find rude which does not seem rude
to others. I suspect that a neutral observer would look at my posts
during the last few weeks and judge that they are not at all rude. I
have
Trent Shipley wrote:
We know each other and know each
other's positions.
What about those of us who try not to have positions?
Don't worry Trent, you are as ambiguous as ever. 8^)
Doug
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Dan wrote:
One thing to remember about experimentation: 99.99% of experiments fail;
What's the criteria for success? An experimental form of governance (or
some aspect of governance) may not yield a completely successful law or
system of laws, but I'm relatively certain that important
Charlie wrote:
I do occasionally blow up. Once when I was accused of racism, once when a
private discussion I'd had with someone was forwarded to the list, and ISTR
Nick and I talking completely at cross-purposes. I was really annoyed on
Friday night, partly 'cause I'd got home after
Ronn! wrote:
Inevitable . . .
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2009/07/highlights-from-the-1984-lawsuit-against-amazon.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/nlthah
More on this including an apology from Amazon's CEO:
On John Williams wrote:
Better Off Ted is the best new comedy I've seen in a long time. I
particularly enjoy the Veridian Dynamics commercials. My favorite
episode was the one where they installed new sensors for detecting if
people were in the room, and they could not detect black people,
So who has a Kindle (I know someone mentioned them before), how do you like
it and what do you read on it?
I just got one today and am attempting to download the NY Times (free 14 day
trial) right now. It seems like it's taking a long time...
Doug
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John wrote:
I have a Kindle DX. I'm pleased with the display size and contrast. I
am less than pleased at the navigation, which is klunky, but I knew
that before I bought it.
I don't read any newspapers on it, since I tend to get my news from
the web with a computer. I read mostly fiction
JDG posted this article on Facebook, very apropos to our discussion.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/01/26/090126fa_fact_gawande?currentPage=all
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/01/26/090126fa_fact_gawande?currentPage=all
Doug
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On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:09 AM, John Williams jwilliams4...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Doug Pensingerbrig...@zo.com wrote:
If regulations and restrictions have such a detrimental effect then why
do
other, more restrictive nations have much more efficient and
John wrote:
Limiting myself to the US, and just listing a few incidents that come to
mind:
Indian Removal Act
Legal slavery
Jim Crow laws
Coverture
Japanese American internment
Joseph McCarthy
Richard Nixon
Are we waiting for historical perspective to add Bush/Cheney to that list?
John wrote:
I think I see a communication problem here. You talk of the free
market as if it were a thing, like a replicator on Star Trek that
provides food. When I talk of a free market, I mean the state of not
restricting or coercing people in their choices to freely interact
with each
John wrote:
No, it was not. The myriad government restrictions have a significant
effect on costs.
If regulations and restrictions have such a detrimental effect then why do
other, more restrictive nations have much more efficient and effective
health care systems?
Doug
Which is to say that you believe you know better how people should
spend their money than they do themselves. That people need to have
their money confiscated and spent by the intellectual elite since
otherwise people would spend it on a bunch of crap.
No, what I believe is that regarding
Kevin wrote:
Consider Phlebas first, right Charlie? 8^)
That was the first (and so far only) Banks book I have tried. I got about
half-way before I gave up.
Regards,
--
Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL
zwil...@zwilnik.com Linux User #333216
I don't want to achieve immortality
Kevin wrote:
I wrote:
Consider Phlebas first, right Charlie? 8^)
That was the first (and so far only) Banks book I have tried. I got about
half-way before I gave up.
Hey, to each his own. CP is one of my favorite books, period, but if we
all liked the same stuff the world would be
John wrote:
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Doug Pensingerbrig...@zo.com wrote:
Absolutely not, but isn't that how the free market works; the people with
money/power decide what's in the best interest of the people they
control?
People they control? Huh? Politicians and regulators
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