Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-24 Thread William T Goodall
On Friday, October 24, 2003, at 06:50 am, Jan Coffey wrote: --- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And it's those very same API's you just mentioned that will stop your driver from capturing video as part of a secure video pipeline (or whater they're calling it now). No direct hardware Access.

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-24 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 23 Oct 2003 at 23:19, The Fool wrote: From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 23 Oct 2003 at 21:55, The Fool wrote: From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 23 Oct 2003 at 15:59, The Fool wrote: From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 22

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-24 Thread Jan Coffey
Um, on second thoughts seach the link. --- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 23 Oct 2003 at 21:55, The Fool wrote: From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 23 Oct 2003 at 15:59, The Fool wrote: From: Andrew

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-24 Thread Jan Coffey
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, October 24, 2003, at 06:50 am, Jan Coffey wrote: --- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And it's those very same API's you just mentioned that will stop your driver from capturing video as part of a secure video pipeline (or

RE: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-24 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false) On 23 Oct 2003 at 15:59, The Fool wrote: From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 22 Oct 2003 at 21:13, The Fool wrote: From: David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fool

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [I wrote] The only Satan-worshipper(s) I've met were...weird. Definitely in the Epi-normal category; I'd gotten 'yellow flag vibes' around them in dance class _before_ they extolled the virtues of the POD...fanatics just give me the creeps.

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-23 Thread Jan Coffey
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] After a time limit an email doesn't vanish -- it expires. Someone with administrative rights can still retrieve it from a server, she added. And the software after the message has 'expired' will no

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-23 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Russell Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Fool wrote: Microsoft has been making changes in the API's / DirectX to be able to give programs the ability to prevent this. The framework has been in place for quite some time. Indeed - we installed a series of data projectors in the

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-23 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 22 Oct 2003 at 21:13, The Fool wrote: From: David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fool wrote:. My understanding is that only outlook can open these messages. Microsoft has said it would also provide a small stand alone (DRM) app to open messages for users of other software.

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-23 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false) I think that would be a compliment for Satan taught people to reason

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-23 Thread David Hobby
... So what about screen capture utilities? Microsoft has been making changes in the API's / DirectX to be able to give programs the ability to prevent this. The framework has been in place for quite some time. They can change all they like. As long as it is displayed on the

Re: Fw: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-23 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
Why not? They've been selling self-destructing operating systems for years . . . At 04:51 PM 10/22/03 -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: Subject: [UL] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false) http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/33507.html The Register | 22 Oct 2003 Microsoft

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-23 Thread The Fool
From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 22 Oct 2003 at 21:13, The Fool wrote: From: David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fool wrote:. My understanding is that only outlook can open these messages. Microsoft has said it would also provide a small stand alone (DRM)

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-23 Thread Deborah Harrell
Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think that would be a compliment for Satan taught people to reason for themselves and not to trust or rely on so-called authority figures. Indeed, an honor being named after one of the great fathers of

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-23 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think that would be a compliment for Satan taught people to reason for themselves and not to trust or rely on so-called authority figures. Indeed, an honor

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-23 Thread Kevin Tarr
The only Satan-worshipper(s) I've met were...weird. Definitely in the Epi-normal category; I'd gotten 'yellow flag vibes' around them in dance class _before_ they extolled the virtues of the POD...fanatics just give me the creeps. Please define: (1) yellow flag vibes (2) POD (3) epi-mormal

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-23 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 23 Oct 2003 at 15:59, The Fool wrote: From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 22 Oct 2003 at 21:13, The Fool wrote: From: David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fool wrote:. My understanding is that only outlook can open these messages. Microsoft

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-23 Thread The Fool
From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 23 Oct 2003 at 15:59, The Fool wrote: From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 22 Oct 2003 at 21:13, The Fool wrote: From: David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fool wrote:. My understanding is that only

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-23 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 23 Oct 2003 at 21:55, The Fool wrote: From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 23 Oct 2003 at 15:59, The Fool wrote: From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 22 Oct 2003 at 21:13, The Fool wrote: From: David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fool

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-23 Thread The Fool
From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 23 Oct 2003 at 21:55, The Fool wrote: From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 23 Oct 2003 at 15:59, The Fool wrote: From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 22 Oct 2003 at 21:13, The Fool wrote: From:

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-23 Thread Jan Coffey
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 23 Oct 2003 at 15:59, The Fool wrote: From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 22 Oct 2003 at 21:13, The Fool wrote: From: David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fool

Fw: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-22 Thread Robert Seeberger
Subject: [UL] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false) http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/33507.html The Register | 22 Oct 2003 Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false) By John Leyden An urban myth has grown up around today's launch of Microsoft Office 2003

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-22 Thread The Fool
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] After a time limit an email doesn't vanish -- it expires. Someone with administrative rights can still retrieve it from a server, she added. And the software after the message has 'expired' will no longer be able to decrypt the message.

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-22 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false) From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] After a time limit

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-22 Thread Russell Chapman
The Fool wrote:. My understanding is that only outlook can open these messages. Microsoft has said it would also provide a small stand alone (DRM) app to open messages for users of other software. The Whole point is that it disallows other software from reading it.

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-22 Thread David Hobby
The Fool wrote:. My understanding is that only outlook can open these messages. Microsoft has said it would also provide a small stand alone (DRM) app to open messages for users of other software. The Whole point is that it disallows other software from reading it. So what about

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-22 Thread William T Goodall
On Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 01:52 am, Russell Chapman wrote: The Fool wrote:. My understanding is that only outlook can open these messages. Microsoft has said it would also provide a small stand alone (DRM) app to open messages for users of other software. The Whole point is that it

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-22 Thread The Fool
From: David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fool wrote:. My understanding is that only outlook can open these messages. Microsoft has said it would also provide a small stand alone (DRM) app to open messages for users of other software. The Whole point is that it disallows other

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-22 Thread The Fool
From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 01:52 am, Russell Chapman wrote: The Fool wrote:. My understanding is that only outlook can open these messages. Microsoft has said it would also provide a small stand alone (DRM) app to open messages

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-22 Thread William T Goodall
On Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 03:33 am, The Fool wrote: From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 01:52 am, Russell Chapman wrote: The Fool wrote:. My understanding is that only outlook can open these messages. Microsoft has said it would also provide a

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-22 Thread The Fool
From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 03:33 am, The Fool wrote: From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 01:52 am, Russell Chapman wrote: The Fool wrote:. My understanding is that only outlook can open