Re: Bad intelligence

2006-11-13 Thread Deborah Harrell
jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snippage I'm not sure yet how the new Democrats will really look like, especially since most of them were elected from the liberal northeast. Several Western states, Colorado included, elected Democratic governors; indeed, our state legislature

Re: Bad intelligence

2006-11-12 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you ask a question that has a LITERAL meaning that you didn't intend, someone here WILL take it literally and call you on it, one way or another. If only I believed that were true. Based on Nick's reaction, its my

Re: Bad intelligence

2006-11-11 Thread Julia Thompson
jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you ask a question that has a LITERAL meaning that you didn't intend, someone here WILL take it literally and call you on it, one way or another. If only I believed that were true. Based on Nick's

Re: Bad intelligence

2006-11-10 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 6:46 PM Subject: Re: Bad intelligence GWYDK: I Googled voteview.com and came up with this page at UCSD (and we _know_ the kinds of whackos come out

Re: Bad intelligence

2006-11-10 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Julia Thompson wrote: If you'd just started with a If the President asked you for advice about Iraq, what would you say (...) Or: if some guy who works with the President may read your e-mails, what would you write about Iraq? :-) I know they read me... Alberto Monteiro

Re: Bad intelligence

2006-11-10 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nick Arnett narnett@ wrote: You didn't ask what George Bush would do if he were president, which would be silly, since he is. You asked what *I* would do. I haven't been elected, so I'd

Re: Bad intelligence

2006-11-10 Thread Nick Arnett
On 11/10/06, jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess that some people would just much rather get in their partisan digs than have a serious discussion *shrug* Allow me to invite you to try a new direction, John. I am serious. And I have been. Nick -- Nick Arnett [EMAIL

Re: Bad intelligence

2006-11-09 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Nick Arnett wrote: I just hope that all the talk from both sides about partnership rather than partnership amounts to something more than politics as usual. Now who is optimistic? It's a two-party system; there's no way two players unite in a zero-sum game. Alberto Monteiro

Re: Bad intelligence

2006-11-09 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the kind of political discussions such as the ones we have here are also a healthy sign. You mean like the discussion that produced this exchange? O.k., Nick - you've been made President of the United States.

Re: Bad intelligence

2006-11-09 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert G. Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many of the new democrats elected are significantly more conservative than the democrats of old and it seems clear to me that people like Is this really true? One of the biggest upsets of Tuesday night was in New

Re: Bad intelligence

2006-11-09 Thread Nick Arnett
On 11/9/06, jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You didn't ask what George Bush would do if he were president, which would be silly, since he is. You asked what *I* would do. I haven't been elected, so I'd resign. Do you really not understand that I simply don't want to play the game of

Re: Bad intelligence

2006-11-09 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 6:35 AM Subject: Re: Bad intelligence --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the kind of political discussions

Re: Bad intelligence

2006-11-09 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 6:53 AM Subject: Re: Bad intelligence --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert G. Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many of the new democrats elected

Re: Bad intelligence

2006-11-09 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 9, 2006, at 4:27 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: The popularity of Obama now seems like a harbinger and less of a bubble phenomena as has been posited here. Isn't Obama actually one of the more liberal members of the Senate? This ranking actually has him to the left of Hillary, Kerry

Re: Bad intelligence

2006-11-09 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You didn't ask what George Bush would do if he were president, which would be silly, since he is. You asked what *I* would do. I haven't been elected, so I'd resign. Do you really not understand that I simply don't want

Re: Bad intelligence

2006-11-09 Thread Nick Arnett
On 11/9/06, jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I understand that you have absolutely no interest in being constructive on a difficult issue like Iraq. Rather, you are much more comfortable just engaging in partisan criticism, without having to offer any constructive suggestions for

Re: Bad intelligence

2006-11-09 Thread Julia Thompson
jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You didn't ask what George Bush would do if he were president, which would be silly, since he is. You asked what *I* would do. I haven't been elected, so I'd resign. Do you really not understand that I simply

Bad intelligence

2006-11-08 Thread Nick Arnett
again, he apparently was given bad intelligence and optimistically (his word) went ahead with something that was doomed to failure. At least this time it didn't kill anyone. And Rumsfeld's resignation (good riddance!) is not connected to the fact that the nation clearly disapproves of the war

Re: Bad intelligence

2006-11-08 Thread Robert G. Seeberger
On 11/8/2006 8:34:23 PM, Nick Arnett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I just hope that all the talk from both sides about partnership rather than partnership amounts to something more than politics as usual. Did you mean partnership rather than partisanship? If so, I would agree. My thinking

Re: Bad intelligence

2006-11-08 Thread Nick Arnett
rather than partisanship? Yep. My bad... intelligence? ;-) I believe that the message to republicans is not that conservatism is undesirable, but that the extremes of conservatism are not places the country wants to go. The exact same message should be understood to apply to liberals

Re: Bad intelligence

2006-11-08 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 9:42 PM Subject: Re: Bad intelligence On 11/8/06, Robert G. Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/8/2006 8:34:23 PM, Nick Arnett ([EMAIL