Re: Kinship registry? Was: Thoughts on gay marriage?

2004-02-28 Thread Richard Baker
David said: Rich, who has, however, argued elsewhere that he thinks that states ought to introduce a kinship registry and cease recognising marriages altogether, leaving them as a private and/or religious matter. Interesting, but I'm not sure what you mean. (Where's elsewhere?) Elsewhere

Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 09:57:03PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: In fact, I have had the same BMI at a time when I was woefully out of shape as I had a few years later when I'd gotten into the best shape of my life, because I'd lost as much fat weight as I had gained muscle weight. :) I think

Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thruout Gov't

2004-02-28 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thruout Gov't Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 14:36:47 -0800 (PST) What exactly makes an obscenity obscene? Aside from

Re: Earth almost put on impact alert

2004-02-28 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Earth almost put on impact alert Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:49:47 + Travis Edmunds wrote: I think it's a tad irresponsible, that there isn't a

Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thru out Gov't

2004-02-28 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thru out Gov't Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:04:47 -0600 At 04:01 PM 2/27/04, Travis Edmunds wrote: What

Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A few new words of which this list is in need Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:07:10 -0600 At 04:05 PM 2/27/04, Travis Edmunds wrote: Biology taking

RE: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 03:38:32PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: You know, I'm a little touchy about this right now. Maybe I shouldn't be, but I am. Funny, the comment didn't even register on me. Most of it is because I don't pay a lot of attention

Re: Earth almost put on impact alert

2004-02-28 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Earth almost put on impact alert Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:20:09 -0600 At 12:12 PM 2/27/04, Dave Land wrote: Travis Edmunds wrote: But in the grand

Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thruout Gov't

2004-02-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 03:21 PM 2/27/2004 -0500 Jon Gabriel wrote: I've explained these things before. I'm not going to do so again, just because _you_ weren't reading. But honestly, was *anyone* reading? Or at least reading *and* taking it seriously? JDG ___

Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?

2004-02-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 02:49 PM 2/27/2004 -0700 Michael Harney wrote: Are sterile heterosexual couples denied marriage? What if the couple does not want children? IOW, is having children a requirement for marriage? Of course not. if it were, that would necessitate a post facto way of invalidating childless

Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?

2004-02-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 02:15 PM 2/26/2004 -0700 Michael Harney wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Harney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suppose that, in an effort to control world overpopulation Everyone is free to marry anyone they want from the same sex, but not of the opposite sex. Would you consider

Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 12:18:11AM +1100, Andrew Paul wrote: Erik, I am a little confused. I agree. -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thruout Gov't

2004-02-28 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thruout Gov't Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:26:33 -0600 On the other I find repetitious use of such language to be

Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?

2004-02-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 09:35 PM 2/27/2004 + Richard Baker wrote: JDG said: At any rate, I find it has hardly been established that there somehow exists a universal right to marry a person of the same sex. If we start from the premise that men and women should have equal rights, then it's obvious, isn't it?

Re: Federal Marriage Amendment

2004-02-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 10:19 PM 2/27/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote: What it says to me is that it is a ban on ALL new marriages both heterosexual and homosexual. It will remove all 1049 'marriage' rights that now exist for all existing married couples. Shirley, you can't be serious. There's the word require in the

List Criticims Re: Tyranny

2004-02-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 04:47 PM 2/26/2004 -0500 Jon Gabriel wrote: Actually, speaking purely for myself, I find I'm MUCH more defensive when challenged offlist. I _always_ ask why said conversation couldn't take place onlist. I think that you are in the minority in preferring to be criticized in public, rather

Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?

2004-02-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 05:12 PM 2/26/2004 -0500 Jon Gabriel wrote: A great quote from ABC's The Note blog on the Constitutional Amendment: Whatever one thinks about the merits of such an amendment, we are amazed (OK: not really) at the degree to which the [mainstream press] casts the President's decision in purely

Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?

2004-02-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 06:05 AM 2/26/2004 -0800 Richard Baker wrote: I seriously find it very hard to imagine being freaked out by the idea of gay marriage. I think a lot of people consider marriage to be the fundamental building block of society. At this time, this buidling block is, in their minds, being

Anyone See The Passion Yet?

2004-02-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
Reviews? JDG ___ John D. Giorgis - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The liberty we prize is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to humanity. - George W. Bush 1/29/03

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 09:24 AM 2/25/2004 -0700 Michael Harney wrote From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 10:17 PM 2/24/2004 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: To be honest John, this is one of those discussions where you give the appearance of being a run with the pack kind of guy. I don't mean to be insulting,

Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thruout Gov't

2004-02-28 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Travis Edmunds wrote: What exactly makes an obscenity obscene? Aside from something obscene being labled an obscenity of course. serious In the recent months, the only time I seriously considered _censuring_ TV for my kids was when they started asking questions about astrology, that they got

Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?

2004-02-28 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Richard Baker wrote: Even if we disregard polyamorous relationships or whatever, surely friendship is one of the bases of civil society - so why not formally recognise friendships in law? And what prevents a group of people to create a new firm whose purpose is just to share their hourse?

Re: This Is Spinal Ta-, er, Metallica

2004-02-28 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: This Is Spinal Ta-, er, Metallica Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 19:14:27 -0600 - Original Message - From: Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thruout Gov't

2004-02-28 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 10:56:24PM +, Alberto Monteiro wrote: serious In the recent months, the only time I seriously considered _censuring_ TV for my kids was when they started asking questions about astrology, that they got from the TV [Nickelodeon]. I find that much more obscene than

Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Richard Baker
Andrew said: You are calling Jan Jane, like its somehow sub-optimal to be a women. Actually, he isn't. He's calling Jan Jane because Jan keeps calling Erik by variants of his name with additional or alternative letters. Rich ___

Re: Homo [was: Thoughts on gay marriage?]

2004-02-28 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Bob Z wrote: the current trend seems to be to view the hominids of the last millenia as seperate species. the dna evidence suggests that neanderthal was a seperate species and erectus was pretty different from sapien. Yes, but there are traces of Neaderthal and Sinanthropus erectus that are

Re: Homo [was: Thoughts on gay marriage?]

2004-02-28 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Speaking of strange and probably unintended consequences of changing the subject line . . . Unintended? No, it was intended :-P Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thru out Gov't

2004-02-28 Thread Alberto Monteiro
The Fool wrote: Use a password protected screensaver. I gave it up when my kids learned that a simple reset would remove the screensaver :-) Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: This Is Spinal Ta-, er, Metallica

2004-02-28 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Matthew and Julie Bos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: This Is Spinal Ta-, er, Metallica Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 01:16:59 -0500 On 2/27/04 1:04 PM, Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You like

Re: This Is Spinal Ta-, er, Metallica

2004-02-28 Thread Richard Baker
Travis said: Do you mean (A) singualarity? If so, I saw one the other night on TNG. If not...then could you explain? I probably am familiar with what you speak of, but it's not exactly rolling of my tongue. He doesn't mean a physical singularity like the thing in the middle of black holes: he

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-28 Thread Michael Harney
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 09:24 AM 2/25/2004 -0700 Michael Harney wrote From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 10:17 PM 2/24/2004 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: To be honest John, this is one of those discussions where you give the appearance of being a run with the

RE: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 12:18:11AM +1100, Andrew Paul wrote: Erik, I am a little confused. I agree. Well, thats what happens when people don't explain themselves properly. It was a fairly simple question. Andrew

Re: This Is Spinal Ta-, er, Metallica

2004-02-28 Thread Steve Sloan II
Travis Edmunds wrote: Do you mean (A) singualarity? If so, I saw one the other night on TNG. If not...then could you explain? I probably am familiar with what you speak of, but it's not exactly rolling of my tongue. The Singularity Robert's talking about is metaphorically like a black

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 08:09 AM 2/28/2004 -0700 Michael Harney wrote: Why is there no hope? Can't it go to the supreme court? Additionally, the Massachusetts legislature is trying to work on an ammendment to their state constitution that can counter the courts ruling. Some Republicans have said leave it to the

Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?

2004-02-28 Thread Michael Harney
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] And of course, an infertile heterosexual couple can adopt a child while meeting that child's reasonable expectations for a mother and a father. A homosexual couple, by definition, cannot. that child's reasonable expectations for a mother and a

RE: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Richard Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrew said: You are calling Jan Jane, like its somehow sub-optimal to be a women. Actually, he isn't. He's calling Jan Jane because Jan keeps calling Erik by variants of his name with additional or alternative letters. Yes, quite possibly, I

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-28 Thread Michael Harney
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 08:09 AM 2/28/2004 -0700 Michael Harney wrote: Why is there no hope? Can't it go to the supreme court? Additionally, the Massachusetts legislature is trying to work on an ammendment to their state constitution that can counter the courts ruling.

Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 02:41:40AM +1100, Andrew Paul wrote: Anyway, no matter, they do go on like a pair of old women don't they ! You do go on like a doofus, don't you? -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___

Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thru out Gov't

2004-02-28 Thread The Fool
From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fool wrote: Use a password protected screensaver. I gave it up when my kids learned that a simple reset would remove the screensaver :-) Login. in NT / 2000 / XP / 2003 the login password is the same as the screensaver password (the

Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?

2004-02-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 08:39 AM 2/28/2004 -0700 Michael Harney wrote: that child's reasonable expectations for a mother and a father How many children have you questioned regarding this, particularly, how many orphans or other children put up for adoption or are in foster care? I think it's far more important to

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 08:49 AM 2/28/2004 -0700 Michael Harney wrote: Yes, and the national amendment process can take up to seven years after it's already been passed in both the House and the Senate. Let's see, leave it to the states: 2 years. Deal with it on a national level: 7 years. Methinks you have your

RE: Thoughts on gay marriage?

2004-02-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 12:58 PM 2/25/2004 -0600 Horn, John wrote: From: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] At any rate, I find it has hardly been established that there somehow exists a universal right to marry a person of the same sex. Has it been established that there is a universal right to marry a

Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?

2004-02-28 Thread Michael Harney
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 08:39 AM 2/28/2004 -0700 Michael Harney wrote: that child's reasonable expectations for a mother and a father How many children have you questioned regarding this, particularly, how many orphans or other children put up for adoption or are in

Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?

2004-02-28 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 10:49:18AM -0500, John D. Giorgis wrote: Given that every child is produced by a mother and a father... Within a few decades, this will almost certainly be proved false. Then you would have no reason for restricting the rights of gay couples anymore, JDG, huh? -- Erik

Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Richard Baker
Erik said: You do go on like a doofus, don't you? I don't know if Andrew does, but I know I do! Rich GCU Single Line Reply ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-28 Thread Michael Harney
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 08:49 AM 2/28/2004 -0700 Michael Harney wrote: Yes, and the national amendment process can take up to seven years after it's already been passed in both the House and the Senate. Let's see, leave it to the states: 2 years. Deal with it on a

Re: Anyone See The Passion Yet?

2004-02-28 Thread The Fool
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reviews? What kind of sadomasochist would be willing to go see a film that has 45 minutes of nothing but the most viscious bloody torture, almost pornographic in it's gore? ___

Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 04:39:22PM +, Richard Baker wrote: Erik said: You do go on like a doofus, don't you? I don't know if Andrew does, but I know I do! Occasionally, everyone does I think. But your S/N is quite high. So far as I have seen, his is very low. -- Erik Reuter

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 09:46 AM 2/28/2004 -0700 Michael Harney wrote: A US Constitutional Amendment can, from time to time, move more quickly than that. Examples, please. Show me that a US Amendment can pass faster than 2 years. Kevin Tarr posted the relevant excerpts from the US Constitution. That process can

Re: Anyone See The Passion Yet?

2004-02-28 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone See The Passion Yet? Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 10:46:58 -0600 From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reviews? What kind of sadomasochist would be

Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A few new words of which this list is in need Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 11:51:02 -0500 On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 04:39:22PM +, Richard Baker wrote: Erik

Re: Anyone See The Passion Yet?

2004-02-28 Thread The Fool
From: Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reviews? What kind of sadomasochist would be willing to go see a film that has 45 minutes of nothing but the most viscious bloody torture, almost pornographic in it's

Re: Anyone See The Passion Yet?

2004-02-28 Thread Damon Agretto
I think the Fool (again) doesn't understand the movie, so the only reaction he can have is a knee-jerk one. Damon. = Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-28 Thread Michael Harney
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 09:46 AM 2/28/2004 -0700 Michael Harney wrote: A US Constitutional Amendment can, from time to time, move more quickly than that. Examples, please. Show me that a US Amendment can pass faster than 2 years. Kevin Tarr posted the relevant

Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?

2004-02-28 Thread The Fool
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 09:35 PM 2/27/2004 + Richard Baker wrote: JDG said: At any rate, I find it has hardly been established that there somehow exists a universal right to marry a person of the same sex. If we start from the premise that men and women should

Re: Anyone See The Passion Yet?

2004-02-28 Thread The Fool
From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think the Fool (again) doesn't understand the movie, so the only reaction he can have is a knee-jerk one. Who says I don't understand. I just don't help spread Vile memes which I happen to disagree with.

Re: Homo [was: Thoughts on gay marriage?]

2004-02-28 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 2/28/2004 9:45:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, but there are traces of Neaderthal and Sinanthropus erectus that are similiar to the sapiens populations that came to the region that they lived, suggesting that they _might_ have traded genes.

Re: Anyone See The Passion Yet?

2004-02-28 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone See The Passion Yet? Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 11:29:35 -0600 From: Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John D.

Re: Anyone See The Passion Yet?

2004-02-28 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone See The Passion Yet? Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 12:11:58 -0600 From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think the Fool (again) doesn't understand the

Re: This Is Spinal Ta-, er, Metallica

2004-02-28 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Steve Sloan II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: This Is Spinal Ta-, er, Metallica Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 09:22:33 -0600 Travis Edmunds wrote: Do you mean (A) singualarity? If so, I saw one the other

Re: Anyone See The Passion Yet?

2004-02-28 Thread The Fool
From: Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reviews? What kind of sadomasochist would be willing to go see a film

RE: another riddle?

2004-02-28 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: another riddle? Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:43:13 -0500 Q: You are sitting behind the wheel in a car keeping a constant speed, on your left side there is an abyss. On your right side

Re: Anyone See The Passion Yet?

2004-02-28 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone See The Passion Yet? Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 12:35:55 -0600 You are implying that I am somehow against violence. Nothing could be further from the

RE: Tyranny

2004-02-28 Thread Horn, John
From: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and now New Paltz Huh? - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Julia Thompson
Travis Edmunds wrote: Ah, but if you have ever seen how flies cluster about the brimming milk pails on a dairy farm in early summer... All the dairy farms I've hung out on were using milking machines, no pails, no access to vast quantities of milk for the flies Julia and there

Re: Anyone See The Passion Yet?

2004-02-28 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 2/28/2004 7:27:56 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Reviews? JDG Saw the 10:50PM showing as previously stated. It is a movie. The spiritually hyper people all left the theater before the end credits actually started, with the credit for

Re: Domestic Terrorism: was Great Britain

2004-02-28 Thread Julia Thompson
Jon Gabriel wrote: From: Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Domestic Terrorism: was Great Britain Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 00:39:54 -0500 From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interestingly the

Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thru out Gov't

2004-02-28 Thread Julia Thompson
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 07:33 PM 2/27/04, The Fool wrote: Use a password protected screensaver. On your TV? No, use one of these: http://www.onestepahead.com/jump.jsp?itemID=115itemType=PRODUCTlGen=detailiMainCat=117iSubCat=27181iProductID=115change=117 or http://tinyurl.com/2h7jf

Re: Federal Marriage Amendment

2004-02-28 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 09:42 PM 2/27/04, Doug Pensinger wrote: What it says to me is that it is OK to outlaw civil unions or any aspect of them. That SSUs can never expect to have the same rights conferred upon them that traditional marriages do and that homosexuals are thereby second class citizens. IMO it

Singularity, was Re: This Is Spinal Ta-, er, Metallica

2004-02-28 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 09:22 AM 2/28/04, Steve Sloan II wrote: Travis Edmunds wrote: Do you mean (A) singualarity? If so, I saw one the other night on TNG. If not...then could you explain? I probably am familiar with what you speak of, but it's not exactly rolling of my tongue. The Singularity Robert's talking

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-28 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 09:49 AM 2/28/04, Michael Harney wrote: From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 08:09 AM 2/28/2004 -0700 Michael Harney wrote: Why is there no hope? Can't it go to the supreme court? Additionally, the Massachusetts legislature is trying to work on an ammendment to their state

RE: Tyranny

2004-02-28 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 04:12 PM 2/28/04, Horn, John wrote: From: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and now New Paltz Huh? That made two of us . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Anyone See The Passion Yet?

2004-02-28 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 04:15 PM 2/28/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The spiritually hyper people all left the theater before the end credits actually started, with the credit for muppet-controller.. Proof positive that both reviewers ans viewers basically see only what they want to see. Sorry. Huh?, again. --

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-28 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 04:52:06PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 04:12 PM 2/28/04, Horn, John wrote: From: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and now New Paltz Huh? That made two of us . . . It is a city in New York that has been in the news. The mayor has recently

Re: Singularity, was Re: This Is Spinal Ta-, er, Metallica

2004-02-28 Thread The Fool
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 09:22 AM 2/28/04, Steve Sloan II wrote: Travis Edmunds wrote: Do you mean (A) singualarity? If so, I saw one the other night on TNG. If not...then could you explain? I probably am familiar with what you speak of, but it's not exactly

Re: Singularity, was Re: This Is Spinal Ta-, er, Metallica

2004-02-28 Thread Richard Baker
The Fool said: The difference is that computer processor speed / # of transistors, RAM Size and Hard-Disk storage have all _continued_ doubling every 18 or so months, and will continue to do so. It's actually slightly faster than that (there are two exponents, the rate of doubling is also

Re: Anyone See The Passion Yet?

2004-02-28 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 2/28/2004 3:57:26 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The spiritually hyper people all left the theater before the end credits actually started, with the credit for muppet-controller.. Proof positive that both reviewers ans viewers basically see only

Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:13 AM 2/28/04, Travis Edmunds wrote: From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A few new words of which this list is in need Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:07:10 -0600 At 04:05 PM 2/27/04,

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-28 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 04:59 PM 2/28/04, Erik Reuter wrote: On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 04:52:06PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 04:12 PM 2/28/04, Horn, John wrote: From: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and now New Paltz Huh? That made two of us . . . It is a city in New York that has been in

Re: Anyone See The Passion Yet?

2004-02-28 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 05:18 PM 2/28/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/28/2004 3:57:26 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The spiritually hyper people all left the theater before the end credits actually started, with the credit for muppet-controller.. Proof positive that

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-28 Thread The Fool
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 04:59 PM 2/28/04, Erik Reuter wrote: On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 04:52:06PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 04:12 PM 2/28/04, Horn, John wrote: From: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and now New Paltz Huh? That

Re: Anyone See The Passion Yet?

2004-02-28 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 2/28/2004 4:34:06 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As someone who generally stays until the end of the credits, however, my observation is that *most* people do not stay through the credits of *any* movie, so I was wondering if your point was there

Re: Federal Marriage Amendment

2004-02-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ronn! wrote: So many possible smart-aleck responses come to mind that I cannot decide on the one I like best, so I will respond by simply quoting the above-cited second amendment: A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
lasted, and San Francisco is *still* handing out faux marriage certificates. Well: news http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040228/D810BC3G0.html Calif. Court Refuses to Stop Gay Weddings In yet another setback to conservatives opposed to same-sex marriage, the California Supreme Court declined

empire time: a bedtime story

2004-02-28 Thread Trent Shipley
[This goes against conventional wisdom on the Orion's Arm world building list. Why?] Once upon a time there was a place called Origin, a ship called Relative, and a cute little wormhole with two terminii called Wormy. One day Origin on a whim asked Relative to take one terminus of Wormy on a

Re: Federal Marriage Amendment

2004-02-28 Thread Julia Thompson
Doug Pensinger wrote: Ronn! wrote: So many possible smart-aleck responses come to mind that I cannot decide on the one I like best, so I will respond by simply quoting the above-cited second amendment: A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-28 Thread Tom Beck
I realise that you have to be pretty gutsy to be a conservative on Brin-L and I hope everyone here appreciates that fact. We should be thankful that *our* conservatives do not fit any of the stereotypes of the kind that are common to ...Say USENET. I'm sorry, but this is nonsense. It doesn't

Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thru out Gov't

2004-02-28 Thread Alberto Monteiro
The Fool wrote: I gave it up when my kids learned that a simple reset would remove the screensaver :-) Login. in NT / 2000 / XP / 2003 the login password is the same as the screensaver password (the screensaver 'locks' the computer and you have RE-login to get back in). (1) my kids only

Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?

2004-02-28 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Erik Reuter wrote: Within a few decades, this will almost certainly be proved false. Then you would have no reason for restricting the rights of gay couples anymore, JDG, huh? But children that are not produced by a mother and a father [like, for example, clones or twins] don't have a soul,

Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?

2004-02-28 Thread Julia Thompson
Alberto Monteiro wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: Within a few decades, this will almost certainly be proved false. Then you would have no reason for restricting the rights of gay couples anymore, JDG, huh? But children that are not produced by a mother and a father [like, for example,

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-28 Thread David Hobby
Erik Reuter wrote: On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 04:52:06PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 04:12 PM 2/28/04, Horn, John wrote: From: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and now New Paltz Huh? That made two of us . . . It is a city in New York that has been in the news.

Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?

2004-02-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 09:34 AM 2/28/2004 -0700 Michael Harney wrote: Children don't know where children come from until they are told, therefore, it is not the child's expectation, but yours. Nevertheless, we can reasonable deduce what a child capable of rational thought would reasonably expect. After all, every

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 04:50 PM 2/28/2004 -0600 Ronn!Blankenship wrote: If other states are affraid of judicial activism, they can amend their own constitutions a lot faster than you can amend the US Constitution. I think the argument is that without a national amendment in place, any State law or amendment to

Catholicism RE: Domestic Terrorism: was Great Britain

2004-02-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 12:39 AM 2/28/2004 -0500 Bryon Daly wrote: - The political differences between Catholic Church leadership and most Protestant leadership these days are rather small, leaving them mostly on the same side of the political aisle. Well, the leadership of the Catholic Church leans very strongly

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 11:13 AM 2/28/2004 -0700 Michael Harney wrote: You mean, the same Supreme Court that decided Roe vs. Wade and Casey vs. Pennsylvania? No, it is not the same supreme court that issued Roe v. Wade. As for Casey v. Pennsylvania, I am simply unfamiliar with it. There are many judges on the

Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?

2004-02-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 12:08 PM 2/28/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote: One of the most irrational of all the conventions of modern society is the one to the effect that religious opinions should be respected. I can just imagine the outrage if I ever said that one of the most irrational of all the conventions of modern

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 08:11 PM 2/28/2004 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] In other words, when I present novel arguments and opinions, their lack of repetition in other sources is prima facie evidence that my arguments and opinions are not credible. On the other hand, if I

Re: This Is Spinal Ta-, er, Metallica

2004-02-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 10:36 AM Subject: Re: This Is Spinal Ta-, er, Metallica From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL

Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 8:41 AM Subject: Re: A few new words of which this list is in need Andrew said: You are calling Jan Jane, like its somehow sub-optimal to be a

Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 10:51 AM Subject: Re: A few new words of which this list is in need On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 04:39:22PM +, Richard Baker wrote: Erik said:

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