Re: [Callers] Great dances for learning how to dance with ghosts?

On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:18 AM, Tom Hinds wrote: > Jim, maybe the meager response was because you didn't give an example. And > what does "the DL;TR crowd" mean? I didn't give an explicit example in my 2014 message

Re: [Callers] Great dances for learning how to dance with ghosts?

Jim, maybe the meager response was because you didn't give an example. And what does "the DL;TR crowd" mean? Tom Sent from my iPad > On Apr 10, 2018, at 9:45 PM, jim saxe via Callers > wrote: > >> On Apr 6, 2018, at 3:49 PM, Yoyo Zhou via Callers >>

Re: [Callers] Great dances for learning how to dance with ghosts?

On Apr 6, 2018, at 3:49 PM, Yoyo Zhou via Callers wrote: > I recall reading something, possibly from Jim Saxe on this list (and maybe > from Larry Jennings?), about how in most dances without out-of-minor-set > interactions, you come back into the set ... once

Re: [Callers] Great dances for learning how to dance with ghosts?

On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 12:07:55 -0400, K Panton via Callers wrote: > Thanks to Yoyo for setting me straight, it looks like "treat P as N" does > work on The Hobbit. I stand corrected. I'm relieved that I don't have to introduce a 6th rule! I'll certainly try this dance out when I get a chance.

Re: [Callers] Great dances for learning how to dance with ghosts?

Thanks, Yoyo. I am causing myself serious brain injury mind-dancing this one. In the end, I agree with you that treating your P as N works in this dance. There remains another issue of locating error-recovery opportunities (and possible caller interventions!) which I will look at (and NOT

Re: [Callers] Great dances for learning how to dance with ghosts?

On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 2:52 PM, K Panton via Callers < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Warning: rabbit hole ahead. > > Colin: I read your text for your workshop. All useful stuff and you do say > more than "treat your partner as a neighbour". > > Re Michael Fuerst's quote, I agree that

Re: [Callers] Great dances for learning how to dance with ghosts?

Hi Ken, I've never called this one, but this is my take on the end effects from a quick review (what the heck - the worst that could happen is I'm wrong!). -Don Notation is "DV1" (my initials, first cycle, assuming full/even sets) and "DV2" (second cycle). If starting with a couple out, flip

Re: [Callers] Great dances for learning how to dance with ghosts?

Warning: rabbit hole ahead. Colin: I read your text for your workshop. All useful stuff and you do say more than "treat your partner as a neighbour". Re Michael Fuerst's quote, I agree that end-effects are what they are and they are not (necessarily?) the point of the dance, but they sometimes

Re: [Callers] Great dances for learning how to dance with ghosts?

On Thu, 05 Apr 2018 23:08:43 +, Jack Mitchell wrote: > That works a lot of the time, but it really doesn't work in dances like Ken > is talking about. Dance like song in > the night (gene Hubert), or for other dances where you go out and then in and > then out, not necessarily with your >

Re: [Callers] Great dances for learning how to dance with ghosts?

Thanks, Mark. Yes, Lisa's Contra would do the trick with a simple out and back. "Happy as a Cold Pig in Warm Mud" would be another where a star with ghosts would be on offer. One notch up in complexity. https://www.cambridgefolk.org.uk/contra/dances/midwest_folklore/happy_as_a_cold_pig.html

Re: [Callers] Great dances for learning how to dance with ghosts?

Right you are, Jack, though I want to read Colin's post in detail; I've had a skim and he's put in much thought. In the dance that I'm hoping to call (Mad Slice) the travelling is actually done not with partner but with a neighbour with whom is visited Shadow 1 and shadow 2. At various points

Re: [Callers] Great dances for learning how to dance with ghosts?

Thanks, Colin. I came across your notes yesterday afternoon and will have a read through as soon as I can. Ken Colin Hume via Callers Thu, 05 Apr 2018 02:42:50 -0700

Re: [Callers] Great dances for learning how to dance with ghosts?

That works a lot of the time, but it really doesn’t work in dances like Ken is talking about. Dance like song in the night (gene Hubert), or for other dances where you go out and then in and then out, not necessarily with your partner. On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 5:42 AM Colin Hume via Callers <

Re: [Callers] Great dances for learning how to dance with ghosts?

I'm not sure that dancing with ghosts is the best way to deal with end-effects - I prefer "treat your partner as a neighbour". I have a whole section of notes on End-effects at https://colinhume.com/dtendeffects.htm Colin Hume ___ List Name:

Re: [Callers] Great dances for learning how to dance with ghosts?

Ken, I just happened to be pulling dances for an upcoming gig. One of the dances I selected is Lisa's Contra (Tom Hinds) that has an out and back in A2 that may work for your purposes. Looking forward to seeing other suggestions. Lisa’s Contra by Tom Hinds Contra/Improper/Int A1 ---

[Callers] Great dances for learning how to dance with ghosts?

I'm planning to include, in an upcoming evening, a dance with some moderate (from a beginner perspective) end-effects. Preceding that, I'd like to get the dancers accustomed to dancing with ghosts with a view to making the end-effects make sense or, at least, be less of a concern. I can think of