Re: [Callers] Problem dancers / Crying Wolf

First, sorry for the inadvertent sending of no message. Second, although I agree with Lisa that it's great to have dancers take care of themselves and not call them "victims," and, if a dancer tells me about a specific situation with another dancer, her approach is commendable. But, two

Re: [Callers] Problem dancers / Crying Wolf

On 9/10/2015 11:14 AM, Lindsay Morris via Callers wrote: Great point, thanks Lisa. On Thursday, September 10, 2015, Lisa Greenleaf via Callers > wrote: Hi Everyone- I am cringing every time I read the word

Re: [Callers] Problem dancers / Crying Wolf

Zhou, On the committing violence front--I once had a sociology professor who used the word "violence" to describe just about everything (i.e., graffiti was violence, a company persistently not fixing warrantied products was violence, genocide was violence). He clearly needed a thesaurus, but it

Re: [Callers] Problem dancers / Crying Wolf

Great point, thanks Lisa. On Thursday, September 10, 2015, Lisa Greenleaf via Callers < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Hi Everyone- > > I am cringing every time I read the word victim. VIctim implies > powerlessness, so why not use the word dancer and encourage > self-empowerment? > >

Re: [Callers] Problem dancers / Crying Wolf

Hi Everyone- I am cringing every time I read the word victim. VIctim implies powerlessness, so why not use the word dancer and encourage self-empowerment? Sometimes dancers approach me because I am an official organizer, and other times friends of the person approach me because they know I

Re: [Callers] Problem dancers / Crying Wolf

Taking you at face value: if you have a systemic problem, you need a policy. If you have a problem with one person, you need to come to terms with that person. I'm not sure if it's just the board, or if other dancers also have issues with her. But if you seek mediation, take notes on your

Re: [Callers] Problem dancers / Crying Wolf

Here's the thing: - There really is harassment, creepy behavior, etc. - There really are cases where third parties see those things and they aren't actually there in the eyes of the perceived victim So organizers have to keep their eyes open and review things on a case by case basis.

Re: [Callers] Problem dancers / Crying Wolf

Well, I don't want to fan the flames in this normally cordial and helpful community. However, I'm here, and seeing what I'm seeing, and asking for perspective. Lindsay Morris CEO, TSMworks Tel. 1-859-539-9900 lind...@tsmworks.com On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Ron Blechner

Re: [Callers] Problem dancers / Crying Wolf

Harassment is real. It's widespread, and pretending it isn't hurts people and keeps people away from our dances. Things I have personally witnessed, and when subsequently asked the dancer whether anything was unusual, they confirmed: One dancer has a habit of grabbing hip *just* at the

Re: [Callers] Problem dancers / Crying Wolf

Maybe. Maybe not. My point was that we should be very, very careful about making a definitive statement about something being "just an accusation", especially when in your example, there was a second problem - even if it was a year earlier. On Sep 9, 2015 10:39 AM, "Lindsay Morris via Callers" <

Re: [Callers] Problem dancers / Crying Wolf

Appreciate that. Don't think the "where there's smoke there's fire" issue applies here, though. It would if there were several *different* women complaining about one man... Lindsay Morris CEO, TSMworks Tel. 1-859-539-9900 lind...@tsmworks.com On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 10:34

Re: [Callers] Problem dancers / Crying Wolf

Hi Lindsay, I realize this is a tricky topic, so apologies in advance if my brevity comes off as bruskness. These two suggestions work for Amherst Contra. As a proxy complaint comes in, a board member would seek out the source. Anonymous complaints are permitted, and a high level of ensuring

[Callers] Problem dancers / Crying Wolf

Chris Weiler's Positive Solutions on dealing with problem dancers, and the CDU Policy are