Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-16 Thread Delia Clark via Callers
I just wanted to report in that I used “look-see” today with a group of K-8 elementary students and I thought it worked fabulously! They really understood the point of the move much better than the random g-word, and it was so cute to watch them intently and playfully gazing at each other as

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-16 Thread Ron Blechner via Callers
I also use "face-to-face", which I learned from Eric. I've heard Steve Z-A and Lisa G switch to these terms, at least where I've heard them call. I also use "right shoulder round" when it's a multi-caller event and that's what people like. We agreed to this for Flurry Festival last month, and it

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-14 Thread Eric Black via Callers
I’m still bemused and befuddled that not so many years ago, this dance move was decried because of perceived forced invasion of personal space. People did not want to be told that they had to make eye contact when they were not comfortable with it, that they did not like being told to flirt

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-14 Thread Richard Fischer via Callers
Ah, long ago I suggested "bine" (from binary star) for the same reason. It didn't catch on. Richard > On Mar 14, 2018, at 10:51 PM, Darwin Gregory via Callers > wrote: > > I just heard a scientific term that I think would be a great, and concise, > name to

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-14 Thread Darwin Gregory via Callers
I just heard a scientific term that I think would be a great, and concise, name to replace the g-word... There is a term for when celestial bodies orbit, and always have the same side facing the other. It is "tidal lock". It could be described in fun ways, and the word "lock" would be a

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-14 Thread Linda S. Mrosko via Callers
A lot of the time while walking through the dance, I use the term "gypsy" and describe it as "lock eyes on your partner/neighbor -- hold them with your eyes only -- no touching," and then when I call it, I use the term "eyes only" or "partner/neighbor eyes only." No one has had a problem because

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-14 Thread Ryan Smith via Callers
" Could someone please explain to me why the word gyp*** is considered a racial slur. I note that the body that represents gyp***s in the USA calls itself the Gypsy Council USA and in the UK it is the Gypsy Council. This is the term they have chosen to represent their ethnicity and they seem to be

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-14 Thread Rich Sbardella via Callers
I think having a word that sounds similar is an asset, not a liability. I have used look-see quite successfully. In years, few will know that a "look-see" used to be called as a G... I have also used Walk 'round with no problem. My initial attempt was Hipsy, but Linda Leslie quickly, and

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-14 Thread Martha Wild via Callers
Yeah, except we keep trying different terms here in San Diego, as well as having callers who havent changed it, so there is no one word to put on the map here yet. > On Mar 14, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Linda S. Mrosko via Callers > wrote: > > Perhaps someone, not

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-14 Thread Martha Wild via Callers
I don’t see that if you substitute a term that ends with a long e it should be nixed just for that reason. OK, maybe kipsy might be considered just a euphemism. But "Look-see", as described by Susan Michaels, has the virtue of involving the fact that you are looking at the other person, and

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-14 Thread Linda S. Mrosko via Callers
Perhaps someone, not me, should draw up a map of the term used in place of "gypsy" in the various parts of the country so traveling callers will know what to us ​​ e ​ if they call there.​ ​ ​​ ​ The map can also be handed out to traveling dancers to prepare them in advance.​ -- *Looking

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-14 Thread Cheryl Joyal via Callers
I first heard Dugan Murphy use “right shoulder round” and it worked well. I have adopted it and it is well received and does work well for me calling wise Cheryl Joyal 630-667-3284 Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2018, at 11:12 AM, Angela DeCarlis via Callers

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-14 Thread Don Veino via Callers
I've successfully tried both Glance (around) and Swoop (around) with dancers. Several have told me they really liked Swoop and thought it was the best alternative they've heard so far (and I've seen folks having fun making "wings" on the floor as they do it). A caution on terms that explicitly

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-14 Thread Angela DeCarlis via Callers
Quick note to all: while "Right Shoulder 'Round" seems like a mouthful at four syllables, the words are easily spoken in two beats of music (or two and a half depending how you count). It takes only half a beat more to say than common moves like "Balance and Swing" or "Allemande Left," and takes

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-14 Thread Bob Hofkin via Callers
Andrea, The discussions make it clear that: (1) there is a need to use terminology other than "gypsy," at least in some venues, and (2) there is no generally-agreed substitute term. A lot of callers see that as an impediment to clear and concise teaching/calling. I have certainly

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-14 Thread Andrea Nettleton via Callers
Hi everyone, Here we are once more, sharing our likes and dislikes, our preferred term (I’ve shared and still like whimsy, but look-see got my attention) of the moment. But why are we circling this wagon again? Though everyone is polite, and thankfully we haven’t begun to rehash whether

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-13 Thread Cara Sawyer via Callers
Jo Mortland of the Chicago Barn Dance group here came up with Dipsy. Nice and silly and sounds similar enough it requires no explanation. Sort of like Kipsy! Guess what they say about great minds is true! Sent using two thumbs > On Mar 13, 2018, at 14:41, Perry Shafran via Callers >

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-13 Thread Elizabeth Szekeres via Callers
Hi, Folks, George Marshall invented the term "Two Eyed Turn" which really means a lot to me. It's short, it's descriptive, and it captures the eyes thing that was always so cool about the Gypsy... My two cents worth. Elizabeth On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 5:48 PM, Russell Frank via Callers <

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-13 Thread Russell Frank via Callers
I agree, but the problem is more serious than “it’s just too close to gypsy”. If we’re not going to use “gypsy” because it’s an ethnic slur, then we have to avoid obvious code words for the ethnic slur. There’s a long history of slightly altering socially unacceptable race and ethnic slurs,

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-13 Thread Yoyo Zhou via Callers
On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 1:07 PM, Martha Wild via Callers < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > I don’t think right shoulder round is going to make the grade. It’s > descriptive, certainly, but it is long and unwieldy and can’t be easily > shortened to anything recognizable as you eliminate

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-13 Thread Donna Hunt via Callers
allers@lists.sharedweight.net> To: John W Gintell <j...@gintell.org> Cc: Caller's discussion list <call...@sharedweight.net> Sent: Tue, Mar 13, 2018 4:36 pm Subject: Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word I don’t think right shoulder round is going to make the grade. It’s descri

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-13 Thread Chip Hedler via Callers
I've been using "eyeball dosido." Not elegant but everyone gets it immediately and never forgets what to do if I use it later on. Chip Hedler On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 4:07 PM, Martha Wild via Callers < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > I don’t think right shoulder round is going to make

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-13 Thread Martha Wild via Callers
I don’t think right shoulder round is going to make the grade. It’s descriptive, certainly, but it is long and unwieldy and can’t be easily shortened to anything recognizable as you eliminate calls in the dance. So, I’m sorry, but I’m not going to be using it. Martha > On Mar 13, 2018, at

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-13 Thread Perry Shafran via Callers
I happen to *like* right shoulder round and have liked it ever since three callers at a dance event used it and it went rather flawlessly.  I like the fact that it is actually descriptive in what you're doing.  I think that the more we try to invent made-up words to try to make it sound fun and

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-13 Thread Delia Clark via Callers
e from Poughkeepsie, > New York. > > -Original Message- > From: Callers <callers-boun...@lists.sharedweight.net> On Behalf Of Kalia > Kliban via Callers > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 11:53 AM > To: callers@lists.sharedweight.net > Subject: Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-13 Thread Ric Goldman - Letsdance via Callers
aredweight.net Subject: Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word On 3/13/2018 11:02 AM, Martha Wild via Callers wrote: > Interesting discussion on the Portland Country Dance Community > Facebook page. Lots of great suggestions. A lot of people really don’t > like “right shoulder ro

Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word

2018-03-13 Thread Kalia Kliban via Callers
On 3/13/2018 11:02 AM, Martha Wild via Callers wrote: Interesting discussion on the Portland Country Dance Community Facebook page. Lots of great suggestions. A lot of people really don’t like “right shoulder round” (I’m one of them). I tried one of their suggestions last night - Kipsey - and