Re: [ccp4bb] Efficient way of showing residue conservation

2011-12-08 Thread Petr Leiman
Dear Bostjan, There is Chimera for almost anything you can think of. Search for Structure-Based Sequence Alignment on this page: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/features.html Petr On Dec 8, 2011, at 6:39 AM, Bostjan Kobe wrote: Consurf will do this for you. Bostjan --- Bostjan Kobe

Re: [ccp4bb] Efficient way of showing residue conservation

2011-12-08 Thread Petr Leiman
Do I feel stupid! My previous message about Chimera should have been addresses to Yuri Pompeu, but not to Bostjan Kobe. Sincerely, Petr On Dec 8, 2011, at 6:26 AM, Yuri Pompeu wrote: I once saw a figure showing the protein as surface, but instead of having it coloured by atom type or

Re: [ccp4bb] Efficient way of showing residue conservation

2011-12-08 Thread Boaz Shaanan
Just to add on others' tips: Consurf is interfaced to Chimera. Boaz Boaz Shaanan, Ph.D. Dept. of Life Sciences Ben-Gurion University of the Negev Beer-Sheva 84105 Israel E-mail: bshaa...@bgu.ac.il Phone: 972-8-647-2220 Skype: boaz.shaanan Fax: 972-8-647-2992 or 972-8-646-1710

[ccp4bb] mmView - a tool for mmCIF exploration

2011-12-08 Thread Daniel Svozil
Dear colleagues, We would like to announce the availability of mmView - the web-based application which allows to comfortably explore the structural data of biomacromolecules stored in the mmCIF (macromolecular Crystallographic Information File) format. The mmView software system is primarily

Re: [ccp4bb] Efficient way of showing residue conservation

2011-12-08 Thread Joel Sussman
8-Dec-2011 10:40am Dear Bostjan Consurf is also interfaced to Proteopedia, http://www.proteopedia.org, i.e. for all structures that have at least several sequences, one can automatically see an evolutionarily colored 3D Jmol image of the structures by just pushing the ConSurf button. See,

Re: [ccp4bb] Efficient way of showing residue conservation

2011-12-08 Thread Francois Berenger
On 12/08/2011 05:11 PM, Petr Leiman wrote: Dear Bostjan, There is Chimera for almost anything you can think of. Not coot, you are sure? Because (i) Chimera is not part of CCP4 and (ii) usually coot does everything on this mailing list. :) Search for Structure-Based Sequence Alignment on

Re: [ccp4bb] Efficient way of showing residue conservation

2011-12-08 Thread Mads Gabrielsen
I believe Charlie Bond's ALINE (http://crystal.bcs.uwa.edu.au/px/charlie/software/aline/) will let you make a nicely coloured sequence alignement, and then write out a Pymol script which will colour the surface by conservation. Mads -- Mads Gabrielsen, PhD Institute of Infection, Immunology and

[ccp4bb] How to manually dock the rigid molecule into the active site

2011-12-08 Thread Dr. STEPHEN SIN-YIN, CHUI
Dear All, I have a protein crystal co-crystallized with a rigid molecule (solved by small-molecule X-ray method). The color of that crystal is orange (native is colorless) after 2d cocrystallization experiment. Then I collected synchrotron data with a resolution at 1.25 Ang. I can solve it by MR.

Re: [ccp4bb] Efficient way of showing residue conservation-thank you everyone

2011-12-08 Thread Yuri
On Thu, 8 Dec 2011 09:19:57 +, Mads Gabrielsen wrote: I believe Charlie Bond's ALINE (http://crystal.bcs.uwa.edu.au/px/charlie/software/aline/) will let you make a nicely coloured sequence alignement, and then write out a Pymol script which will colour the surface by conservation. Mads

Re: [ccp4bb] How to manually dock the rigid molecule into the active site

2011-12-08 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 17:49 +0800, Dr. STEPHEN SIN-YIN, CHUI wrote: I tried to look at all density regions bit by bit, but the density for the protein atoms always interfere with my vision. Is it possible to mask out the density of protein atoms, Isn't that what difference density map is

Re: [ccp4bb] better way to post your density snapshots

2011-12-08 Thread Mark J van Raaij
posting these attachments as links rather than attachments in CCP4bb messages is the way to go I think. many institutions offer this service (ours does), and there are also free and for-pay online ways to do this (for example www.yousendit.com, but there are many others). Then it is also not a

Re: [ccp4bb] better way to post your density snapshots

2011-12-08 Thread Herman . Schreuder
I am not sure that sending links is the way to go. Our company blocks many websites that it considers not of professionel interest and were employees may spend too much time. More often than not I find that I cannot open the link provided to the bullitin board. E.g. I just checked the yousendit

Re: [ccp4bb] adxv

2011-12-08 Thread Navraj S. Pannu
Hi Stacy, If you give the CCP4 program crank a try, I can give you advice, if needed. It can work with SAD data. Best wishes, Raj On Thu, 8 Dec 2011, stacy William wrote: Dear All...I am new user for Phenix. I am right now working with SAD data. I had run Ausol in GUI interface with my

Re: [ccp4bb] better way to post your density snapshots

2011-12-08 Thread Petr Leiman
herman.schreu...@sanofi.com wrote: I am not sure that sending links is the way to go. Our company blocks many websites that it considers not of professionel interest and were employees may spend too much time. What a brilliant idea! If only this could be implemented in academia. Our Ph.D.

Re: [ccp4bb] model building at 3.2 A

2011-12-08 Thread Francis E Reyes
On the other hand, shooting a lower resolution crystal may get you the conformation of the disordered domain. Surprising at first thought, but was true in p97/VCP from the Brunger Lab. F On Dec 7, 2011, at 11:47 PM, atul kumar wrote: Dear all I have crytals which diffract up to

Re: [ccp4bb] model building at 3.2 A

2011-12-08 Thread Edward A. Berry
Hmm- I wonder if B-factor unsharpening (applying a large POSITIVE B-factor to the data) would have the same effect? Francis E Reyes wrote: On the other hand, shooting a lower resolution crystal may get you the conformation of the disordered domain. Surprising at first thought, but was true

Re: [ccp4bb] model building at 3.2 A

2011-12-08 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 12:17 +0530, atul kumar wrote: I can't build anything in this region,this could be because of disordered structure or because of low resolution. Both, and also the presence of disordered fragment may be the reason the resolution is low, thus the already mentioned

Re: [ccp4bb] better way to post your density snapshots

2011-12-08 Thread Ed Pozharski
There is indeed the phenix.cut_out_density tool (by Tom Terwilliger) which does a nice job of reducing the size of the output mtz-file (it shifts the cutout region to the origin and reduces the unit cell). On the link-versus-attachment issue, certainly the link is preferred, but the

Re: [ccp4bb] better way to post your density snapshots

2011-12-08 Thread Petr Leiman
For the second time today I have to apologize. In no way I wanted to discourage anyone and especially people new to crystallography from posting questions to this BB. Especially good thoughtful questions. Sincerely, Petr On Dec 8, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Petr Leiman wrote:

Re: [ccp4bb] model building at 3.2 A

2011-12-08 Thread Savvas Savvides
Dear Kumar Could you please provide some information on your refinement protocol/progress and quality of your partial model thus far. Also, what is the quality and completeness of your data, in particular in the lowest resolution to 10 angs range. In this way one might be able to provide more

[ccp4bb] PHENIX vs REFMAC refinement had me fooled

2011-12-08 Thread Christopher Browning
Dear All, Question: Has anybody ever refined the same structure using PHENIX and then tried REFMAC to see what happens? I did and I stumbled on something funny. I'm refining a structure at 1.1A resolution which was solved with Iodine phasing using PHENIX AutoSolve. Got a great map and the

Re: [ccp4bb] PHENIX vs REFMAC refinement had me fooled

2011-12-08 Thread Pavel Afonine
Christopher, if you send me the input PDB and data files (off-list, of course) I will have a close look and then explain what exactly happens and why. I also promise to post the summary on this mailing list (without revealing the identity of your structure, of course). If you send me the command

Re: [ccp4bb] PHENIX vs REFMAC refinement had me fooled

2011-12-08 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Christopher, if your R/Rfree from Refmac5 really are 10% vs. 18%, you might simply be looking at an electron density map with strong model bias, i.e. the map shows the features of the model and not of the data. Although at 1.1A resolution this

Re: [ccp4bb] PHENIX vs REFMAC refinement had me fooled

2011-12-08 Thread Mark J van Raaij
are you sure that you are using the original input intensities for the REFMAC map calculation (and the refinement run) and not the output ones of the (previous) run? if you are not, you may have model bias, and Rfree can be fooled, especially with NCS (if you have it). - or perhaps anisotropic

Re: [ccp4bb] better way to post your density snapshots

2011-12-08 Thread James Stroud
On Dec 8, 2011, at 8:39 AM, Ed Pozharski wrote:However, I'd see noharm in posting just a small cutout of the map in the region ofinterest. It's not a difficult task (fft/mapmask or perhaps some usfmagic), but is there some user-friendly approach to cutting out a smallmap volume?There's probably a

[ccp4bb] [ANNOUNCEMENT] mapreg has a home page

2011-12-08 Thread James Stroud
Hello all, Since no one offered a good utility for Ed Pozharski's idea to easily cut a region of a density map, I made a permanent web location for my utility called mapreg: http://mapreg.bravais.net/ Enjoy. James

[ccp4bb] The stupid/naive question

2011-12-08 Thread Israel Sanchez
Hello folks, After a discussion with a colleague a question aroused regarding precipitants in crystallisation conditions. I must confess that I do not know if it is a really naive question or just a stupid one (guess the second option thought...), anyhow there we go: Imagine you have

Re: [ccp4bb] PHENIX vs REFMAC refinement had me fooled

2011-12-08 Thread Jonathan Elegheert
In addition to the remarks of Mark and Tim, could you make sure that you are refining in Refmac with the correct flag for the Rfree set (value = 0)? In Phenix, this is the opposite: the value is 1 for test reflections and 0 for work reflections. So going from a PHENIX environment to Refmac,

Re: [ccp4bb] PHENIX vs REFMAC refinement had me fooled

2011-12-08 Thread Petr Leiman
Dear Tim, I agree with you completely. The question then becomes why does the automatic weighting scheme in refmac allow R and R-free to run away from each other by 8% in a 1.1 A resolution structure? Petr On Dec 8, 2011, at 6:50 PM, Tim Gruene wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Re: [ccp4bb] The stupid/naive question

2011-12-08 Thread Fischmann, Thierry
That's a good question ! Here is my take on it: We are talking of say 5% PEG 2K weight per weight. So 5% PEG 2K and 5% PEG 20K contains ~ the same weight of polymer per liter of solution, and therefore the ~ same molarity of the ethylene oxide motif. Hence neglecting the effect of the ends of

Re: [ccp4bb] PHENIX vs REFMAC refinement had me fooled

2011-12-08 Thread Katherine Sippel
In a non-computational capacity would also suggest perhaps resequencing your clone. Occasionally the published sequences are off, the specific base is polymorphous or there is also the possibility that you introduced a mutation somewhere. That would be the cheap and easy way to definitively answer

Re: [ccp4bb] PHENIX vs REFMAC refinement had me fooled

2011-12-08 Thread Boaz Shaanan
Hi Petr, The automatic weighting scheme in the recent Refmac version that comes with 6.2.0 is fine but there is a limit to what it can do if something is seriously wrong with the model/data/whatever. It has just worked well for me in all respects (Rw/Rf gap, maps quality, FOM, ligands,

Re: [ccp4bb] PHENIX vs REFMAC refinement had me fooled

2011-12-08 Thread Jens Kaiser
My money is on the the wrong test set (as Jonathan Elegheert suggested). I have seen this several times with newbies, when the test set is created by phenix. It does it the xplor-way. When it comes to the free set, refmac defaults to 0, phenix tries to be intelligent (i.e. if 1/0 it uses 1, if

Re: [ccp4bb] PHENIX vs REFMAC refinement had me fooled

2011-12-08 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Check your Rfree flag. Phenix and refmac may use different flag. Have a look into log file. If percentage of Rfree reflections is 95% then flags need to be swapped. Garib On 9 Dec 2011, at 02:50, Mark J van Raaij wrote: are you sure that you are using the original input intensities for the

[ccp4bb] How to assess geometry in a model?

2011-12-08 Thread Matt Warkentin
Hi Folks I'm looking for a way to score each atom (or residue) in a model based on it's geometry. I know these scores exists because various software packages speak of outliers, even including a sigma value in some cases. So I'm looking for a simple way to get a complete list (not just

Re: [ccp4bb] How to assess geometry in a model?

2011-12-08 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Matt, WHAT_CHECK writes out a file called check.db that contains per-residue scores for several quality metrics. It is fairly easy to parse. Cheers, Robbie Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 23:08:45 -0500 From: mattw...@gmail.com Subject: [ccp4bb] How to assess geometry in a model? To:

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