Re: [ccp4bb] Is the difference between mFo and Fo maps supposed to be very small?

2010-08-31 Thread Ed Pozharski
If I understand correctly, the only difference between mFo and Fo map will be weighting in different resolution shells according to figure-of-merit. While this will presumably downweigh the less reliable resolution shells, it will hardly make up for the heavy model bias. The reason you see the

Re: [ccp4bb] Problems in purification

2010-08-26 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 11:35 -0400, Roger Rowlett wrote: We routinely polish protein preps on Q-sepharose (Mono-Q should be even better) with at least 10 CV gradients over a narrower range of NaCl concentrations, maybe 0-0.5 M or even smaller. Just wanted to add that in my experience the

Re: [ccp4bb] (non-crystallographic content ALERT)

2010-08-25 Thread Ed Pozharski
I don't see what George's attempt to point out that pure-phenix questions should be asked in phenix bb (and the point itself may be subject to different opinions) has to do with renaming Moscow streets and subway stations (unless you thought that the proposition to rename ccp4bb is serious).

Re: [ccp4bb] autoBuster--Rfree_falg

2010-08-17 Thread Ed Pozharski
There are many ways to test if the two test sets are identical. For example (using CCP4i): Go to Reflection Data Utilities - SF file analysis and then perform data correlation between your two FreeFlag columns. If they are identical, the resulting R-factor should be 0 and correlation

Re: [ccp4bb] calculating solvent volume from molecular surfaces

2010-08-12 Thread Ed Pozharski
Take a look at MAMA from Uppsala Software Factory http://xray.bmc.uu.se/usf/mama_man.html It can generate the mask from the PDB file. This will, however, leave internal cavities belonging to solvent. If you don't want that, the following MAMA script will fix it giving you the mask of the

Re: [ccp4bb] PEG in the pdb?

2010-08-12 Thread Ed Pozharski
PEG solutions contain fragments of all sizes - it is the average size (however defined by the manufacturer) that is 1000. So technically it is incorrect to claim that you have PEG1000 molecules bound to your protein, it is most likely much shorter fragments that can penetrate the channels in

Re: [ccp4bb] PEG in the pdb?

2010-08-12 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 08:57 +, MARTYN SYMMONS wrote: Zero occupancy is generally a deprecated way of dealing with missing density as it is confusing for less experienced user of the coordinates. I think zero occupancy can be useful during refinement as the atoms help fill space (or for

Re: [ccp4bb] Unidentified density.

2010-08-12 Thread Ed Pozharski
Nevertheless, what do you have in mother liquor/protein buffer? On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 17:24 +0200, wrote: Dear All, I am refining structure of protein at 1.7A. It is enzyme with 3 histidine residues in the active site, which are chelating metal (at the moment I built in calcium but I do

Re: [ccp4bb] PEG in the pdb?

2010-08-12 Thread Ed Pozharski
, 1294. 29, 1338. 30, 1382. 31, 1426. 32, 1470. 33, 1514. 34, 1558. 35, 1602. 36, 1646. 37, 1690. 38, 1734. 39, 1778. 40, 1822. 41, 1866. 42, 1910. 43, 1954. 44, 1998. 45, 2042. 46, 2086. 47, 2130. --- On Thu, 12/8/10, Ed Pozharski epozh

Re: [ccp4bb] problem with CNS bgroup refinement

2010-07-16 Thread Ed Pozharski
The problem is the unrestrained nature of the grouped b-factor refinement itself. Read this thread http://www.mail-archive.com/ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk/msg14133.html In a nutshell, just stick with (properly wighted) individual B-factors. On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 10:57 -0400, hongjunyu wrote: Hi, I

Re: [ccp4bb] No peak after self rotation function means...

2010-07-16 Thread Ed Pozharski
Pure translation NCS? On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 20:04 +, Marie Lacroix wrote: Hi everybody, I just calculated a self rotation function from the data used for molecular replacement (what by the way did not worked) and saw no peak at all. Does this not mean that there is only one molecule in

Re: [ccp4bb] anisotropic/isotropic

2010-07-15 Thread Ed Pozharski
But of course. This is what mixed refinement is for - the easiest was to get it to work is probably somehow generating anisou records for all the atoms and then doing something like egrep -v 'ANISOU|HOH' on the pdb file. Mixed refinement will then refine only the atoms with pre-existing anisou

Re: [ccp4bb] A strange case of MR

2010-07-12 Thread Ed Pozharski
Given your unit cell parameters + high Rsym I'd say you have an indexing problem. If you try P2, what happens? I suspect that you might have something as simple as incorrect beam center position and while integration works, scaling fails (the only way you are getting away with it is by choosing

Re: [ccp4bb] Coot binary for Ubuntu 10.04 64 bit

2010-07-12 Thread Ed Pozharski
I just compiled the latest coot (0.6.2-pre-1.3011) on 64-bit Lucid (it appears that the gtkglext issue is gone). I don't know what you mean by so many compiling issues. Are you using autobuilder script? On Sun, 2010-07-11 at 12:28 -0700, Michael Hothorn wrote: Hi, can someone point me to a

[ccp4bb] attachments

2010-07-02 Thread Ed Pozharski
Several recent posts with decently sized attachments (now in cross eyed stereo too!) prompt this (annual?) anti-paperclip-button rant. Lucky for me, I can just recycle the old messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk/msg11949.html Cheers from the self-appointed thought

Re: [ccp4bb] attachments

2010-07-02 Thread Ed Pozharski
netiquette. Tim P.S.: I wonder how much traffic this email will induce ;-) On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 09:33:01AM -0400, Ed Pozharski wrote: Several recent posts with decently sized attachments (now in cross eyed stereo too!) prompt this (annual?) anti-paperclip-button rant. Lucky for me, I

[ccp4bb] NEWLigand keyword

2010-06-16 Thread Ed Pozharski
When refmac encounters new ligand, the default behavior is to report it in the log file and exit. But it also apparently creates the output pdb-file (with coordinates the same as the input file). Is there some way to change this behavior so that no output pb file is generated? What I need is

Re: [ccp4bb] Converting cif-files into pdb-files / reading cif -files into coot

2010-06-01 Thread Ed Pozharski
http://sw-tools.pdb.org/apps/CIFTr/ On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 15:21 +0200, Christian Engel wrote: Dear All, I am looking for a ccp4 program that reads in cif-files and converts them into pdb-files, including the CRYST1 card. Can anybody suggest a solution? I didn't find any in ccp4i, e.g. the

Re: [ccp4bb] Linux on SGI O2 Unix Workstation

2010-06-01 Thread Ed Pozharski
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Octane#Available_Operating_Systems just googled linux sgi o2 On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 10:18 -0600, Brennan Bonnet wrote: Hi All, I just obtained a Silicon Graphics O2 Unix workstation from 1996. I want to use it for 3D modelling of protein crystals using

Re: [ccp4bb] BSA

2010-05-26 Thread Ed Pozharski
You should take a look at DIFFMODE COMPARE keyword in AREAIMOL manual, it allows for buried surface area calculation (you have to prepare the two pdb files with complex and receptor only). If you can easily use command line and scripts (i.e. you are running CCP4 on non-micro$oft OS), try the

Re: [ccp4bb] updated mtz file or original one in refmac5

2010-05-18 Thread Ed Pozharski
I just checked a recent refmac job and it seems that in the output mtz the Fobs has indeed changed. what's more interesting, the number of missing reflections has changed too (disturbingly, it decreased so that the dataset looks more complete 97.07% to 97.17% in this case). But if the same

Re: [ccp4bb] updated mtz file or original one in refmac5

2010-05-18 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Tue, 2010-05-18 at 07:03 -0700, Miller, Mitchell D. wrote: The decrease in missing reflections are due to the fact that the output file does not include the missing reflections that are lower resolution than the lowest resolution observed reflection. Thus, this file is no longer

Re: [ccp4bb] Comparing coordinates

2010-04-30 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Fri, 2010-04-30 at 13:35 +0100, Nicholas Keep wrote: If anyone has a piece of software that would do this it would be great. How about this (this is a single line) --- grep 'ATOM\|HETATM' file1.pdb file2.pdb |grep -v REMARK | cut -d: -f 2 | cut -c 13-54 | sort | awk 'BEGIN {FIELDWIDTHS =

Re: [ccp4bb] Precipitation of protein-protein complex under most of the crystallization condition

2010-04-29 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 16:23 +0530, Jhon Thomas wrote: This is a strange behaviour of the protein complex. Why is this strange? 20 mg/ml is fairly high, just dilute the protein to 10 mg/ml and repeat the screen. Or better yet, repeat the screen with 1:2 protein:reservoir ratio for precipitated

Re: [ccp4bb] sigma cutoff for fitting waters in model

2010-04-22 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 17:21 -0700, James Holton wrote: The 0.3% chance of a peak being above 3 sigmas assumes that the histogram of electron density values is Gaussian. It is not! In fact, it is a funny-looking bimodal distribution (the peaks are protein and solvent regions). Indeed!

Re: [ccp4bb] sigma cutoff for fitting waters in model

2010-04-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
I second Tim's opinion. In the days of CNS/O, there was a popular rule to place waters in 3 sigma peaks that make chemical sense, then re-refine and keep those waters that produce more than 1 sigma in 2fo-fc map. (With Coot the default cutoff is 5). There could be a bizarre probabilistic

Re: [ccp4bb] Re: [ccp4bb] Mysterious Crystals?

2010-04-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
Couldn't they simply be too thin? After all, unit cell dimensions are routinely about 0.01um, so if these needles are only fraction of a micron thick, there is simply not enough material for diffraction. Nice looking but non-diffracting protein crystals are too disordered (i.e. while packing is

Re: [ccp4bb] How to show bonds between ligands and metal which are around 1.8-2.0 Ao far away, in pymol..??

2010-04-16 Thread Ed Pozharski
Use bond command bond atom1, atom2 once you do that, any subsequent line and stick renderings will connect the atom1 and atom2 (you can right-click on the corresponding atom to see their full string representation). I assume you are trying to do something like this http://tinyurl.com/y2cdezj

Re: [ccp4bb] To model or not to model...

2010-04-14 Thread Ed Pozharski
Katherine, all good questions and all discussed previously on this very discussion board. My personal opinion did not change much since 2007: http://www.dl.ac.uk/list-archive-public/ccp4bb/msg19777.html although I would probably amend couple of minor things. As for riding hydrogens, take a

Re: [ccp4bb] How to show electron density map for my ligand in pymol, which is bound in the active site..??/

2010-04-13 Thread Ed Pozharski
Hussain, http://137.189.50.96/kbwong/teaching/pymol/pymol_tutorial.html which is the top hit when you google pymol electron density. Using google (and not to appear biased, other available search engines) is the most valuable advice (per word) that you may possible get. On Tue, 2010-04-13 at

Re: [ccp4bb] Does the substrate has access to the active site?

2010-04-09 Thread Ed Pozharski
It is also possible that mother liquor prevents binding (although often in such cases you would see some precipitant component in the active site. I would generally bet on need for conformational change. And you expect to see the product complex, right? Ed. On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 11:15 +0200,

Re: [ccp4bb] Follow up to TLS, NCS and refinement

2010-04-09 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 23:26 +0100, Daniel Bonsor wrote: both the Rfactor and Rfree get stuck at 30% and 36% according to http://xray.bmc.uu.se/gerard/supmat/rfree2000/plotter.html these are higher than expected. With that said, R/Rfree should not be a fetish, and your model may be fine (i.e.

Re: [ccp4bb] Why Do Phases Dominate?

2010-03-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 12:51 -0500, Jacob Keller wrote: Does anybody have a good way to understand this? Sure, it just depends on what would one consider a good way to understand. For a pure empiricist, it's good enough to see one of those two-dimensional phase swap pictures. For a

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D fitting

2010-02-26 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 16:50 +0100, Gerard DVD Kleywegt wrote: But it still won't solve Miri's problem. I think what she is asking for is a program that detects which atoms should be matched to which, irrespective of their names (i.e., not assuming they are called CA ) and order (i.e., not

Re: [ccp4bb] short step

2010-02-23 Thread Ed Pozharski
and is unable to postrefine a value of crystal rotx that is compatible with all the frames. It may be possible to turn of post-refinement with POSTREFINE 0 or some such. Ed Ed Pozharski wrote: I want to process bunch of frames with extremely short step - i.e. these are 0.5degree oscillations

Re: [ccp4bb] short step

2010-02-23 Thread Ed Pozharski
Ethan, manual handling of the mosaicity seems to help. There are now plenty of other things to sort out, but at least scalepack does not crash anymore. I used lower fixed mosaicity setting in denzo and fixed it in scalepack. Another issue is that there was apparently something funny about first

[ccp4bb] short step

2010-02-22 Thread Ed Pozharski
I want to process bunch of frames with extremely short step - i.e. these are 0.5degree oscillations but crystal only rotates by 1 degree over 1000 frames (I would have kept it at the same orientation if Rigaku control software would allow zero step). Denzo can process the frames all right, but

Re: [ccp4bb] Group B factors in refmac

2010-02-17 Thread Ed Pozharski
Nick, there was a discussion of this three weeks ago. Check this thread http://www.mail-archive.com/ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk/msg14133.html I still maintain the view that appropriately tight restraints are the way to go and not the grouped B-factor refinement (at least not the way it is currently

Re: [ccp4bb] What is an aceptable spread in ADP values?

2010-02-04 Thread Ed Pozharski
Pavel, Simply not true. Think why -:) Hint: in restrained refinement the weight applies to all terms - bonds, angles, torsions, etc... So if you choose tight weight in such refinement the torsions will be restrained as tightly as other terms (at least as it would be in CNS or phenix.refine).

Re: [ccp4bb] What is an aceptable spread in ADP values?

2010-02-03 Thread Ed Pozharski
Pavel, - In general you are free to decide what you name a domain: it can be a residue, its part or the whole structure. - What would be main and side for non-amino acid molecule, like a whatever ligand? I don't see how my freedom to explicitly define the terms I use in a post is relevant.

Re: [ccp4bb] What is an aceptable spread in ADP values?

2010-01-29 Thread Ed Pozharski
DISCLAIMER: When I say grouped B-factor refinement I mean CNS-style, Bmain/Bside refinement. Not to be confused with more general domain B-factor refinement where single B-factor is assigned to some part of the structure. Apart from improving data-to-parameters ratio, another argument for

Re: [ccp4bb] how to deal with the DNA in Refmac?

2010-01-29 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 00:14 -0500, Xun Lu wrote: So, how can I tell Refmac not to sacrifice the geometry of DNA to fit my poor density? Or, how to fix the DNA (just like in CNS)? Anyone could share their experience and tricks about dealing with DNA? Xun, I needed once to restrain

Re: [ccp4bb] What is an aceptable spread in ADP values?

2010-01-28 Thread Ed Pozharski
Jose Antonio, I've seen similar behavior few years ago with grouped B-factor refinement in CNS. The argument for the grouped refinement is as follows: This is better than individual B-factor refinement at low resolution because you significantly reduce the number of parameters. There are two

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal rescue

2010-01-26 Thread Ed Pozharski
http://hamptonresearch.com/documents/product/hr000175_what_is_tacsimate_new.pdf turns up once you use google's I'm feeling lucky button. On Tue, 2010-01-26 at 15:42 +, Zhiyi Wei wrote: Dear all, I got a problem with my crystals. I have two total different proteins that both can be

Re: [ccp4bb] UV microscope for screening

2010-01-20 Thread Ed Pozharski
Phoebe, my understanding is that power of UV illumination here is not in salt-vs-protein test (which, imho, can only be finalized by testing diffraction) but in improved contrast for protein crystal detection. I haven't used UV microscopes myself, but images provided by manufacturers are quite

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser: removing H in PDB increases the RFZ ?!

2010-01-12 Thread Ed Pozharski
The increase in RFZ is relatively small and not entirely unexpected. While hydrogens only contribute one electron (as opposed to carbon (6), nitrogen(7), oxygen(8) and sulfur (16)), there are many hydrogens (in fact, almost as many as all the other atoms combined). For instance, in lysozyme you

Re: [ccp4bb] Correct ESU ?

2010-01-11 Thread Ed Pozharski
My knowledge of Fortran is dated, but the ESU_R and ESU_RFREE are calculated in refmac like this HESU_CRUIC = SQRT(FLOAT(N_REFINED_ATOMS)/FLOAT(NREFMNPAR))* + COMPL**(-0.33)*HD_HIGH*HRFAC_SHELL_WORK(NB1) HESU_FREE = SQRT(FLOAT(N_REFINED_ATOMS)/FLOAT(NREFA(1,NB1)))* +

Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4]: TDS upon flashcooling

2009-12-15 Thread Ed Pozharski
With salt-based conditions sodium malonate is your friend: Acta Cryst D59: 2356 On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 12:20 +, Natalie Zhao wrote: -Original Message- From: owner-c...@dl.ac.uk [mailto:owner-c...@dl.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rafael Couñago Sent: 14 December 2009 20:22 To:

Re: [ccp4bb] Problem in rerunning old job - ccp4 6.1.0 IF 2.0.3

2009-12-15 Thread Ed Pozharski
The electron density snapshots I can understand on some level - after all, picture is sometimes worth thousand words. But it does take a windows person to post Mb-sized picture instead of a one-line error message. flame off On the substance, you should probably do what the program suggests -

Re: [ccp4bb] FW: pdb-l: Retraction of 12 Structures....

2009-12-11 Thread Ed Pozharski
Not to derail the thread, but there is nothing, imho, wrong with I/s=1 cutoff (you expect I/s=2, I assume?). R-factors will get higher, but there are good reasons to believe that model will actually be better. This has been discussed many times before and there is probably no resolution, so why

Re: [ccp4bb] FW: pdb-l: Retraction of 12 Structures....

2009-12-11 Thread Ed Pozharski
I would like to point out that this outright fabrication remains an isolated incident. There are over 50,000 crystal structures in the PDB, which means that this is only ~0.02% of the total. This is all quite bad, but let's not overstate the problem. Maybe such report is not a great idea after

[ccp4bb] REFMAC SIGFP/FOBS cutoff

2009-12-11 Thread Ed Pozharski
Does anyone know if REFMAC has any SIGFP cutoff? I looked into manual but perhaps missed it. What I mean is abnormal situation where some FOBS are 0 or even negative - is there any intrinsic cutoff or refinement will be done against all the reflections? Thanks, Ed. -- Edwin Pozharski, PhD,

Re: [ccp4bb] FW: pdb-l: Retraction of 12 Structures....

2009-12-11 Thread Ed Pozharski
with the cutoff level selected, but it is the inconsistency of that level with Rmerge and the Rvalues for the highest shell. BR -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ed Pozharski Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:58 PM

Re: [ccp4bb] units of the B factor

2009-11-23 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Sun, 2009-11-22 at 23:33 -0800, Dale Tronrud wrote: I could be describing my angle as 1.5 radians, 1.5 degrees, or 1.5 cycles (or 1.5 of the mysterious grad on my calculator). I thought that use of degrees is based on dividing a circle into 360 parts - roughly one per day (then in

Re: [ccp4bb] units of the B factor

2009-11-23 Thread Ed Pozharski
Ian, On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 17:34 +, Ian Tickle wrote: Ed, For instance, if angles are measured in degrees and x1 sin x ~ pi * x / 180 sin x ~ x Your equations cannot simultaneously be true in fact the 1st one is obviously wrong, the 2nd is right. In the 1st case I think you

Re: [ccp4bb] edit mtz cell in header?

2009-11-16 Thread Ed Pozharski
it (but with Emacs). But I guess the official way would be with Reflection Data Utilities - Edit MTZ Datasets which will edit the dataset cells. It wraps keywords of CAD. Martyn -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Ed Pozharski Sent: Fri 11/13/2009 9:25 PM

Re: [ccp4bb] edit mtz cell in header?

2009-11-13 Thread Ed Pozharski
You may be able to open mtz files in a primitive text editor such as nano (I just did). It's a little awkward, as there are no line breaks. MTZ header is in the end of the file and it is plain text, so should be easy to edit manually - just make sure you don't introduce extra space. There are

Re: [ccp4bb] automar

2009-11-02 Thread Ed Pozharski
Check if you have csh installed in your system. If it still fails, try installing tcsh. If I am right, then this is happening because automar-install script is written for csh but which is not installed by default on your system (most modern linux distros use bash). On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 22:06

Re: [ccp4bb] Question about merging of data from different crystals

2009-10-22 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:19 -0400, Yuan Cheng wrote: datasets in scalepack.I am wondering whether there is any way to reindex these two datasets to make their a/b dimensions match. Any suggestion will be highly appreciated. Oh yeah, there is. It's on page 102 of the HKL manual (Scenario 5:

Re: [ccp4bb] Question about merging of data from different crystals

2009-10-22 Thread Ed Pozharski
I obviously didn't pay any attention to the specific numbers/space group (and didn't read the rest of your message). Fred is absolutely right - the only thing you can do in P21 is to switch a and c (and invert b to maintain the right hand). So maybe your crystal can be indexed both ways, but

Re: [ccp4bb] align DNA structures

2009-10-21 Thread Ed Pozharski
Both pymol/align and coot/ssm (I presume) do the secondary structure alignment first followed by structural alignment. So it only works for proteins. In Pymol, there is fit command that instead matches atoms with the same names; and super which does sequence alignment first. You can try to play

Re: [ccp4bb] how to improve Rfree?

2009-10-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
*If* you are using WEIGHT AUTO, check the RMSDbonds. You don't say what your resolution is, but I assume it's in lower 2.0s. I've seen refmac5 in some cases produce somewhat unreasonable geometries (i.e. RMSDbonds0.025A) at such medium resolution and accordingly, large R/Rfree gap. If this is

Re: [ccp4bb] how to improve Rfree?

2009-10-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
My resolution is 1.6A although I have cut it to 1.8A to bring the R-factor down. I've been performing restrained refinement in refmac5 using the default settings. The solvent content is 40% This sounds fundamentally wrong. Even the Rmerge reduction by cutting resolution practice is

Re: [ccp4bb] Observation:parameter ratio

2009-09-23 Thread Ed Pozharski
Take a look at this: Brunger, A., DeLaBarre, B., Davies, J. Weis, W. X-ray structure determination at low resolution. ACTA CRYSTALLOGRAPHICA SECTION D-BIOLOGICAL CRYSTALLOGRAPHY 65, 128-133 (2009). The paper quotes Wayne Hendrickson (says submitted) regarding determinancy point (i.e. where

Re: [ccp4bb] Observation:parameter ratio

2009-09-23 Thread Ed Pozharski
I've seen this estimate of the determinancy point for torsion angle refinement presented by Axel Brunger at ACA meeting this summer. I don't remember all the details, but no, it did not refer to the approach described in the paper where higher resolution model is used as a restraint. It was

Re: [ccp4bb] Observation:parameter ratio

2009-09-23 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 16:05 +0200, Dirk Kostrewa wrote: yes, but this is only in case of torsion angle refinement. For x,y,z the determinancy point is ~3 A. True, but to count all the x,y,z,b as parameters is only sensible with unrestrained refinement. If restraints are properly imposed,

Re: [ccp4bb] Preparation of seed-stocks without seed-beads

2009-09-14 Thread Ed Pozharski
You can use the glass cell disruption pestle http://www.vwrsp.com/catjpg/mp0/mp0440.jpg to grind them up. They cost money, of course, and if you plan to buy something, why not go for seed bead kit? But if you want something very cheap, then you'll find this amazing discovery interesting:

[ccp4bb]

2009-08-27 Thread Ed Pozharski
I suspect that your question is CNS-related. Easy is relative, but what you need to do is to uncomment the appropriate DIHEDRAL statements (assuming that used xplo2d, they will be there but mostly commented out). Just figure out what values you need for particular angles. If it is wise to fix

Re: [ccp4bb] electron density map

2009-08-21 Thread Ed Pozharski
Tassos is absolutely right. While it's unlikely that many subscribers of the ccp4bb today suffer the indecency of checking their mailbox over 4kbps flaky modem connection (also known as wishful staring at the progress bar), it still seems pointless to distribute hundreds of megabytes into

Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 / Ubuntu 9.04 64-bit

2009-07-06 Thread Ed Pozharski
Yes, the problem is with 32-vs-64. At first, I have found an ugly workaround of getting 32-bit version of libguile-srfi-srfi-1-v-3.so.3 and changing the symbolic link in /usr/lib to fool coot into using it. Coot will start but will be quite unstable. So to answer your question, there is no

Re: [ccp4bb] Computer hardware and OS survey

2009-05-04 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Sat, 2009-05-02 at 11:50 +0100, mb1pja wrote: .. but OSX gives you Unix AND you can run Word /Powerpoint without rebooting. And you get a user-friendly ergonomic windowing system that kicks the out of XP/Vista/KDE/Gnome... best wishes Pete I guess you should check some compiz

Re: [ccp4bb] use of siliconized cover glass

2009-04-30 Thread Ed Pozharski
Should help if you use detergents and, of course, they are cheaper. On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 15:38 -0400, Sang Hoon Joo wrote: I sometimes notice people using non-siliconized cover glass and it makes me wonder what pros and cons we can think about using siliconized glass... any suggestions?

Re: [ccp4bb] Cryo-protectant

2009-04-24 Thread Ed Pozharski
What is the crystallization condition? On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 11:46 +0800, Liew Chong Wai wrote: Hi all, Good day I used MPD as a cryoprotectant (20%, 30%) for my crystal. However, there is no diffraction signal at all. Without the MPD cryo, i still manage to get 5angstrom, but it has

Re: [ccp4bb] open mask with coot

2009-04-22 Thread Ed Pozharski
While CNS manual says that masks can be generated both as cns map and O mask, the model_mask.inp script does not have an option in define section to switch the formats. (My guess is that this is because these scripts were written when one ring still ruled them all - his fingers instinctively type

Re: [ccp4bb] hkl2000 license

2009-03-24 Thread Ed Pozharski
Assuming that you did everything else correctly (e.g. placed the new cr_info file you got from HKL into /usr/local/lib), are you sure you included un-mar165 in your info file? They have this mar option which refers to MAR imaging plate detectors (except MAR345) and thus does not cover CCDs

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Twinned data and maps

2009-03-16 Thread Ed Pozharski
But wouldn't detwinning be problematic with nearly perfectly twinned data? I'll post my own question about separately to not hijack the thread... On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 11:24 +0100, Clemens Steegborn wrote: Hi Walter, You should definitely detwin data for map calculation if you have a

[ccp4bb] Twinned P62

2009-03-16 Thread Ed Pozharski
Some time ago, I had a dataset which turned out to be P31 with a dimer sitting on the three-fold axis. The only way I found to process it was to run twinned refinement in CNS with (-h,-k,l) and twinning fraction of 0.5. R/Rfree are 20/24% at 2.4A resolution, so the model must be right at least

Re: [ccp4bb] Problem with setting up ccp4 gui

2009-03-05 Thread Ed Pozharski
I had the same problem. In my case I think it was related to the part of ccp4 configuration that redefines python path. For some reasons (it breaks wxPython, at least in Hardy), I had it commented out and then after starting ccp4i I got these dbccp4i warnings. When I turned python part of ccp4

Re: [ccp4bb] Create a dual boot windows-linux machine

2009-01-20 Thread Ed Pozharski
And Linux partitions can be accessed from windows: http://www.howtoforge.com/access-linux-partitions-from-windows On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 12:49 +, Roger Dodd wrote: Dear all, Just to add, linux now has perfectly good read-write stable drivers for NTFS (the native WinXP filesystem). This

Re: [ccp4bb] structure (factor) amplitude

2009-01-12 Thread Ed Pozharski
Also I did a 'Google vote' for the two terms. 'Structure amplitude' has 11300 hits. 'Structure factor amplitude' has only 4750. So all round I would say that 'structure amplitude' wins by a considerable margin. Results of another Google vote: Earth is flat:

Re: [ccp4bb] Depositing coordinates with riding hydrogens

2008-12-18 Thread Ed Pozharski
Jon, Riding hydrogens are *not* part of your model, they are part of the algorithm used to predict observations. Thus, the information is automatically included when you report the software used for refinement. There are definitely some (many) parameters that are never included in the deposited

[ccp4bb] Omitted parameters

2008-12-18 Thread Ed Pozharski
As a follow-up to the question posted by Jon Winger regarding riding hydrogens, do we all agree that the current PDB format does not allow complete reconstruction of the final stage refinement? For instance, the geometry weight factor is never reported. Second question: is it important to make

Re: [ccp4bb] Depositing coordinates with riding hydrogens

2008-12-18 Thread Ed Pozharski
Riding hydrogens are *not* part of your model, The fact that you don't see H in your fo-fc map due to limited resolution and high level of noise does not mean that H atoms are not present in actual real structure -:) Let me ask you this - are bond length restraints part of the *model*?

Re: [ccp4bb] Depositing coordinates with riding hydrogens

2008-12-18 Thread Ed Pozharski
- bond length restraints do not contribute to the scattering and hence do not affect the R-factors, while H atoms do contribute to scattering and therefore R-factors computed from the model with or without hydrogens can be different (I spent a couple of months implementing it in PHENIX and I

Re: [ccp4bb] Depositing coordinates with riding hydrogens

2008-12-18 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 10:15 -0800, Ethan A Merritt wrote: The riding-hydrogen treatment is definitely part of the model. But the number of parameters associated with it is not derived from the number of individual hydrogen atoms and their coordinates, it is limited to the number of parameters

Re: [ccp4bb] Modeling residues with very poor density

2008-12-09 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 09:31 +0100, Tim Gruene wrote: ...you must set the occupancy of those residues to zero... I think this approach (which Tim is not supporting) makes no sense. When I place an ATOM record into a pdb-file, what I am really saying is based on the data, this atom's

Re: [ccp4bb] NMR resolution (delete if you believe that ccp4bb is limited to CCP4 and maybe few other crystallography-related topics)

2008-11-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
Thanks to all who answered (so quickly). To summarize, the premise fails because NMR/FRET and crystallography are based on different phenomena, and the energy-distance relationship is only valid for the latter. One has to wonder why they need to build bigger and bigger accelerators instead of

Re: [ccp4bb] Radius of Gyration

2008-10-30 Thread Ed Pozharski
You may also consider HYDRO suite: http://leonardo.fcu.um.es/macromol/programs/programs.htm It does calculate the radius of gyration, but also stokes radius, diffusion coefficients, etc. On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 23:39 -0400, David M Shechner wrote: Hallo, one and all, I was wondering if anyone

Re: [ccp4bb] Using the BB for file sharing

2008-07-15 Thread Ed Pozharski
May I also suggest that the more traditional avenue - requesting the reprint from the corresponding author - is always tried first? I used to do this back in time when I was a poor russian grad student with zero access to full-text articles. Also handy if you collect stamps :) On Tue,

Re: [ccp4bb] pdbset bug - seqres record

2008-07-11 Thread Ed Pozharski
] On Behalf Of Ed Pozharski Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:31 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] pdbset bug - seqres record There is a bug in pdbset: when you output a sequence (using SEQU PDB), the residue names are shifted to the left by one position. Here is how it looks like

[ccp4bb] pdbset bug - seqres record

2008-07-10 Thread Ed Pozharski
for processing in hydropro. Don't know if it's important anywhere else, but hydropro can't read the sequence if it's shifted. -- Ed Pozharski [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Maryland - Baltimore

Re: [ccp4bb] Molecular Dynamics for dummies.

2008-07-03 Thread Ed Pozharski
GROMACS binaries are available for Macs http://www.gromacs.org/content/view/32/100/ Afaic, GROMACS is user-friendly. There are good tutorials, and there is even third-party GUI: http://resal.atspace.com/grogui.htm IMHO, the GUI is not much better than running Gromacs jobs from command line,

Re: [ccp4bb] Weakest protein-protein complex crystallised

2008-06-30 Thread Ed Pozharski
The word weak is, of course, relative. Free energy of crystallization is roughly 1-2 kcal/mole of crystal contacts (I think I carried this number from Sir Blundell's book, but quick look at papers by Peter Vekilov's group seems to confirm it - am I wrong on this?). I think that crystal contacts

Re: [ccp4bb] poll: cutoff for high resolution

2008-05-15 Thread Ed Pozharski
. On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 10:08 -0700, William Scott wrote: On May 15, 2008, at 10:01 AM, Ed Pozharski wrote: 1.2A (not surprisingly since this is about the length of covalent bond). A carbon-carbon single bond is about 1.55 Å. -- Edwin Pozharski, PhD, Assistant Professor University of Maryland

Re: [ccp4bb] poll: cutoff for high resolution

2008-05-15 Thread Ed Pozharski
resolution. I think anything better than ~3 Å should allow unambiguous definition of nucleotide and amino acid positions. On May 15, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Ed Pozharski wrote: Of course. However, C=0 bond is ~1.2A, and bonds made by those pesky hydrogens are ~1A. And I would think

Re: [ccp4bb] Help with Superpose results

2008-04-09 Thread Ed Pozharski
02 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Message d'origine- De : Ed Pozharski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Tuesday, April 08, 2008 3:56 PM À : Philippe DUMAS Cc : CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Objet : Re: [ccp4bb] Help with Superpose results RMS deviation refers to the variance of a random

Re: [ccp4bb] question about processing data

2008-03-17 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 10:51 +, Partha Chakrabarti wrote: Not just one of them. If you are pushing it too far, you will see the effect in later refinement step.. And the effect in later refinement step will be the slight increase in R-factor? IMHO, this does not justify throwing away data

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