Re: [ccp4bb] how to get phase of huge complex

2012-06-12 Thread Vellieux Frederic
Hi Lisa, hi all, Please do not discard the alternative method(s) of "conventional" heavy atoms. Co-crystallisation or heavy-atom containing mother liquor soaks. You may remember that "monster" complexes have been solved in the past by such methods, and sometimes there are difficulties in cryst

Re: [ccp4bb] how to get phase of huge complex

2012-06-12 Thread Nat Echols
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Frank von Delft wrote: > Finding 111 sites should be feasible without other tricks than very careful > data collection (see below);  if you have two or more copies in the ASU, you > may find you need to do what the ribosome guys did, namely use other > derivatives

Re: [ccp4bb] Where to get a thermo-cycling controlled chamber

2012-06-12 Thread Zhijie Li
Hi Jun, In this following article an metallic adapter was used to mount a 192 well sitting drop plate on a conventional thermocycler. http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/2006/05/00/av5047/av5047bdy.html. However I guess there would be significant evaporation and condensation if you use vapor diff

Re: [ccp4bb] how to get phase of huge complex

2012-06-12 Thread Frank von Delft
If you don't have crystals yet, you'll find getting it to crystallize is your main problem. Finding 111 sites should be feasible without other tricks than very careful data collection (see below); if you have two or more copies in the ASU, you may find you need to do what the ribosome guys di

Re: [ccp4bb] Where to get a thermo-cycling controlled chamber

2012-06-12 Thread Roger Rowlett
Why wouldn't a peltier-cooled/heated (PCR) thermal cycler be adaptable? Roger Rowlett On Jun 12, 2012 11:15 PM, "Jun Ma" wrote: > Hi everybody, > > My experiment need me to try a thermo-cycling method for protein > crystallization. So I need a kind of temperature chamber, which can changes > tem

Re: [ccp4bb] how to get phase of huge complex

2012-06-12 Thread James Stroud
If you want to use se-Met, you might want to start by labeling only one protein at a time. For example, if you have A,B,C,D, grow crystals like this: se-A, B, C, D A, se-B, C, D, etc. Then try combinations of 2, then 3, then if you haven't got the phases you need, try all 4. And remember, if

[ccp4bb] Where to get a thermo-cycling controlled chamber

2012-06-12 Thread Jun Ma
Hi everybody, My experiment need me to try a thermo-cycling method for protein crystallization. So I need a kind of temperature chamber, which can changes temperature quickly, precisely and steadily. Furthermore, it should be relatively quiet when running, because I'm afraid vibration will affect

Re: [ccp4bb] how to get phase of huge complex

2012-06-12 Thread Francis E Reyes
Do you have crystals? Do they diffract? If so, to what resolution? What resolution do you require to answer your biological question? F On Jun 12, 2012, at 7:46 PM, LISA wrote: > Hi all, > > My work is to solve huge complex containing 4 different proteins and total > molecular weight is ab

Re: [ccp4bb] Fun Question - Is multiple isomorphous replacement an obsolete technique?

2012-06-12 Thread James Holton
I think there is a misconception floating around that processing your data with "anomalous turned on" will somehow degrade the quality of "normal" intensity data. I'm not exactly sure where this rumor comes from, but I imagine it has something to do with confusion about all the various "anomalous"

[ccp4bb] how to get phase of huge complex

2012-06-12 Thread LISA
Hi all, My work is to solve huge complex containing 4 different proteins and total molecular weight is about 300 KD. I can purify the complex by co-expression them in E.coli. This complex contains 8 protein A, 2 protein B and 1 protein C and D. protein B and protein C have homology structures de

Re: [ccp4bb] how to interpret DALI search results

2012-06-12 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Tuesday, June 12, 2012 02:29:13 pm Jerry McCully wrote: > > Dear ALL; > > After we solved our structure by anomalous scattering, we did a DALI > search. Here are the results but it is not easy to draw meaningful > conclusions whether our structure represents a novel fold or is homolo

Re: [ccp4bb] how to interpret DALI search results

2012-06-12 Thread VAN RAAIJ , MARK JOHAN
...I meant visualisation software of course... Quoting "VAN RAAIJ , MARK JOHAN": if this is the first (or second, or third) time you do a DALI search, take the list output from DALI, start from the top and superpose each structure with yours and look at the superpositions with your favouri

Re: [ccp4bb] how to interpret DALI search results

2012-06-12 Thread VAN RAAIJ , MARK JOHAN
if this is the first (or second, or third) time you do a DALI search, take the list output from DALI, start from the top and superpose each structure with yours and look at the superpositions with your favourite superposition software. This is very educational and the only way you get a feeli

[ccp4bb] how to interpret DALI search results

2012-06-12 Thread Jerry McCully
Dear ALL; After we solved our structure by anomalous scattering, we did a DALI search. Here are the results but it is not easy to draw meaningful conclusions whether our structure represents a novel fold or is homologous to others. Basically the Z-score is between 2 and 6.4 sinc

Re: [ccp4bb] Fun Question - Is multiple isomorphous replacement an obsolete technique?

2012-06-12 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Why would anyone ignore the anomalous data they had collected? It will always help the phasing, and decide the hand for you.. Eleanor On 6 Jun 2012, at 03:55, Stefan Gajewski wrote: > Hey! > > I was just wondering, do you know of any recent (~10y) publication that > presented a structure sol

[ccp4bb] vacancy for Java Web Application Developer at Diamond

2012-06-12 Thread Martin Walsh
Dear all, this new vacancy at Diamond may be of interest for some readers of this BB which is focused on further development of ISPyB at Diamond. Full details of the post can be found here: http://www.diamond.ac.uk/Home/Jobs/Current/DIA0737_TH.html Informal inquiries can be made to myself (mart