Re: [ccp4bb] disordered helix

2013-05-13 Thread Dale Tronrud
the helix, all your maps will be omit maps.) It is quite common to submit models to the PDB that do not contain all of the amino acids expected based on the sequence. If you can't see where the chain goes you certainly can't be expected to build it. Dale Tronrud On 05/13/2013 04:23 AM, atul

Re: [ccp4bb] ctruncate bug?

2013-06-20 Thread Dale Tronrud
based R values are lower when you refine against F's, that means nothing. If we could get the PDB to report both the F and I based R values for all models maybe we could get a start toward moving to intensity refinement. Dale Tronrud On 06/20/2013 09:06 AM, Douglas Theobald wrote: Just trying

Re: [ccp4bb] Alternating positive and negative density

2013-06-24 Thread Dale Tronrud
back through your Fcalc's and Fobs's. Dale Tronrud On 06/23/2013 09:57 PM, Peter Randolph wrote: Short version: Hi, I'm working on what should be a straightforward molecular replacement problem (already solved protein in new space group), but my Fo-Fc map contains a peculiar series

Re: [ccp4bb] modified amino acids in the PDB

2013-07-09 Thread Dale Tronrud
exist that displays for the user whatever representation they want. Then the representation stored in the master repository would not be very important. Dale Tronrud Mark J van Raaij Lab 20B Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC c/Darwin 3 E-28049 Madrid, Spain

Re: [ccp4bb] Dose anyone see this ligand before?

2013-07-17 Thread Dale Tronrud
the presence or absence of hydrogen bonds will distinguish between these two compounds before you go to the trouble to build a model of either. Dale Tronrud On 7/17/2013 6:35 AM, Wei Feng wrote: Dear all, Thank you for your advices. I had tried to use MPD and pyrophosphate etc to fix the density

Re: [ccp4bb] A case of perfect pseudomerehedral twinning?

2013-10-15 Thread Dale Tronrud
Since Phil is no doubt in bed, I'll answer the easier part. Your second matrix is nearly the equivalent position (x,-y,-z). This is a two-fold rotation about the x axis. You also have a translation of about 31 A along x so if your A cell edge is about 62 A you have a 2_1 screw. Dale Tronrud

Re: [ccp4bb] A case of perfect pseudomerehedral twinning?

2013-10-15 Thread Dale Tronrud
for yourself. Everything you have said points to your crystal being P212121 (or very nearly P212121). Dale Tronrud On 10/15/2013 02:31 PM, Yarrow Madrona wrote: Thank you Dale, I will hit-the-books to better the rotation matrices. I am concluding from all of this that the space group

Re: [ccp4bb] Problematic PDBs

2013-10-17 Thread Dale Tronrud
loops. If I recall, my model has about 10 more amino acids than the PDB model. In all of these cases the majority of the resides in each model are fine. 3SQK has been replaced with a corrected model (4F4J). Dale Tronrud On 10/17/2013 06:51 AM, Lucas wrote: Dear all, I've been lecturing

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Fwd: undefined edensity blob at glutamine sidechain

2013-12-10 Thread Dale Tronrud
It doesn't look like you left a CN on your gold atom. These things are pretty much covalently bound. Dale Tronrud On 12/10/2013 08:13 AM, PriyankMaindola wrote: dear all: I. i am not able to fit trp, since 1. trp doesnt fit well 2. positive density comes in fo-fc map after refinement

Re: [ccp4bb] resubmission of pdb

2014-01-31 Thread Dale Tronrud
I would write back to the annotator who send the processed files to you and ask if you can restart the deposition. The worst they can say is no and you're back to ADIT. On the other hand they will probably be as happy as you to save the work that has already been done. Dale Tronrud On 01/31

[ccp4bb] Meeting Announcement: Northwest Crystallography Workshop

2014-02-07 Thread Dale Tronrud
(Pacific) Northwest Crystallography Workshop http://oregonstate.edu/conferences/event/nwcw2014/ June 20-22, 2014 Registration is now open for this year's edition of the Northwest Crystallography Workshop. It is being hosted at Oregon State University in

Re: [ccp4bb] Can not see density map when I turn off normalization in PYMOL

2014-02-19 Thread Dale Tronrud
When you don't normalize the map you have to specify your contour level in whatever units the map came in. Your output says the stdev is 0.075 so I guess you need to contour at 0.225 to see the equivalent image. Dale Tronrud P.S. I feel compelled to note that what the program is reporting

Re: [ccp4bb] minimum acceptable sigma level for very small ligand and more

2014-03-19 Thread Dale Tronrud
can give it a pass for not fitting the model. The model has to fit the density, and fit it better than any other model. You must also make clear to your readers what the occupancy of your ligand is and the quality of the maps that lead you to this conclusion. Dale Tronrud P.S. I have had great

[ccp4bb] Second announcement for the (Pacific) Northwest Crystallography Workshop

2014-04-09 Thread Dale Tronrud
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Second announcement for the (Pacific) Northwest Crystallography Workshop http://oregonstate.edu/conferences/event/nwcw2014/ June 20-22, 2014 Registration is continuing for this year's

Re: [ccp4bb] crystallographic confusion

2014-04-18 Thread Dale Tronrud
based on the traditional criteria. This solution allows for the best possible model to be constructed and the buyer is still allowed to make quality judgements the same way as always. Dale Tronrud On 4/18/2014 5:22 PM, Lavie, Arnon wrote: Dear Kay. Arguably, the resolution of a structure

[ccp4bb] NWCW 2014: Last day to register at early registration rates

2014-04-30 Thread Dale Tronrud
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Northwest Crystallography Workshop http://oregonstate.edu/conferences/event/nwcw2014/ June 20-22, 2014 The (Pacific) Northwest Crystallography Workshop is a regional gathering of people who are

Re: [ccp4bb] stalled refinement after MR solution

2014-05-08 Thread Dale Tronrud
structure does have 2 fold symmetry (see below) and as Dale Tronrud pointed out, there is always tNCS in a P21 space group with two monomers related by a 2-fold axis. I calculated the translation to be unit cell fractions of 0.36 0.35, 0.32. rota_matrix -0.9860 -0.1636 -0.0309 rota_matrix

Re: [ccp4bb] PDB passes 100,000 structure milestone

2014-05-14 Thread Dale Tronrud
of the crappy Matrix movies. Dale Tronrud On 5/14/2014 6:47 PM, James Holton wrote: A little loophole that might make everyone happy can be found here: http://www.wwpdb.org/policy.html search for A re-refined structure based on the data from a different research group Apparently, anyone can

[ccp4bb] Deadline Approaches for Registration to the Northwest Crystallographic Workshop

2014-06-05 Thread Dale Tronrud
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 (Pacific) Northwest Crystallography Workshop http://oregonstate.edu/conferences/event/nwcw2014/ June 20-22, 2014 Summer is fast approaching and so is the Northwest Crystal- lography Workshop to be held here

Re: [ccp4bb] Solvent channels

2014-06-27 Thread Dale Tronrud
, eventually becoming darker than the surrounding liquid. The speed of binding is controlling the kinetics not diffusion. Dale Tronrud -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Keller, Jacob Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 3:07 PM To: CCP4BB

[ccp4bb] New Version of the Protein Geometry Database Now Available

2014-06-27 Thread Dale Tronrud
. Dale Tronrud P. Andrew Karplus Department of Biochemistry and Biophysics Oregon State University -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlOt044ACgkQU5C0gGfAG12aZACdG68Vyjw7JJimw0ofMZrJQLu8

Re: [ccp4bb] New Version of the Protein Geometry Database Now Available

2014-06-30 Thread Dale Tronrud
it. Hope that helps, Dale Tronrud On 6/27/2014 1:49 PM, Keller, Jacob wrote: I have wanted for some time to search for catalytic-triad-like configurations by defining three Ca-Cb bonds from known catalytic triads, then searching the pdb for matches, but have not thought of a quick and/or easy

Re: [ccp4bb] very informative - Trends in Data Fabrication

2012-04-03 Thread Dale Tronrud
have to be deposited, however. (And this provides no protection against forgeries of home source data sets.) Dale Tronrud On 04/03/12 13:19, Bryan Lepore wrote: On the topic of MX fraud : could not an encryption algorithm be applied to answer the question of truth or falsity of a pdb/wwpdb

Re: [ccp4bb] Disorder or poor phases?

2012-04-10 Thread Dale Tronrud
of the quality of the phase information. With best wishes, Gerard. -- On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:00:28PM -0700, Dale Tronrud wrote: The phases do have effects all over the unit cell but that does not prevent them from constructively and destructively interfering

Re: [ccp4bb] Disorder or poor phases?

2012-04-11 Thread Dale Tronrud
On 4/10/2012 10:44 PM, Kay Diederichs wrote: Hi Dale, my experience is that high-B regions may become visible in maps only late in refinement. So my answer to the original poster would be - both global reciprocal-space (phase quality) and local real-space (high mobility) features contribute

Re: [ccp4bb] Criteria for Ligand fitting

2012-04-25 Thread Dale Tronrud
other reasonable model. Saying that my map is consistent with my model is a very weak statement in the absence of exclusivity. A recent example of this sort of problem can be read about at (warning: tooting my own horn) http://www.springerlink.com/content/b8h6lg138635380v/?MUD=MP Dale Tronrud

Re: [ccp4bb] Anisotropic diffraction

2012-04-29 Thread Dale Tronrud
there to begin with. Dale Tronrud On 4/28/2012 12:06 AM, Zhijie Li wrote: Hi, My first thought was same with David: the truncation won't change the crystal's space group. The symmetry of the crystal is reflected by the symmetry of the amplitudes of many many reflections across all resolutions

Re: [ccp4bb] Strange Density

2012-05-15 Thread Dale Tronrud
A map. Your job is to say these parts I understand and these parts I don't. Dale Tronrud On 05/15/12 07:51, RHYS GRINTER wrote: Dear Community, As I'm a relatively new to protein crystallography this might turn out to be an obvious question, however. I'm working on the structure

Re: [ccp4bb] Calculating ED Maps from structure factor files with no sigma

2012-05-23 Thread Dale Tronrud
of sigma(Fo) to be catastrophic. Wouldn't sigma(sigmaA) be the largest component since sigmaA is a function of resolution and based only on the test set? Dale Tronrud All the best, Nicholas

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Death of Rmerge

2012-05-31 Thread Dale Tronrud
they want and not be guilty of overstating the quality of their model. Dale Tronrud JPK On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Edward A. Berry ber...@upstate.edu wrote: Yes! I want a copy of this program RESCUT. REMARK 200 R SYM FOR SHELL(I) : 1.21700 I noticed structure 3RKO reported

Re: [ccp4bb] sigma levels of averaged maps in coot ( or e/A3)

2012-06-06 Thread Dale Tronrud
, and then adjust the averaged map so that it mostly matches those contours. If your ncs is less perfect this will not work as well for you. Dale Tronrud On 6/6/2012 2:20 PM, Paul Emsley wrote: On 06/06/12 21:47, Ursula Schulze-Gahmen wrote: I calculated threefold averaged omit maps in coot. These maps look

Re: [ccp4bb] Chiral volume outliers SO4

2012-07-12 Thread Dale Tronrud
overlay two models and have a logical solution without a rotation matrix with a determinate of -1. Besides, you will continue to be bitten by this problem as you use other programs, until you actually swap some labels. Dale Tronrud On 07/12/12 15:00, Joel Tyndall wrote: Hi all, Thanks very

Re: [ccp4bb] Chiral volume outliers SO4

2012-07-15 Thread Dale Tronrud
defining the labeling for a number of the groups we use, I think it is up to you to justify why this group should be treated differently. Dale Tronrud P.S. On a only slightly off topic note - I'm quite afraid of using both as the definition for chirality. I've noticed that this keyword is used

Re: [ccp4bb] refining large region with multiple conformers

2012-08-07 Thread Dale Tronrud
' conformation of your mixed model, leaving the 'g' conformation unrestrained by ncs. Dale Tronrud P.S. I'm avoiding the use of 'A' and 'B' alt locs because these are routinely used when splitting side chains but are almost never intended to imply that all 'A's are coordinated with each other and all 'B's

Re: [ccp4bb] Unexplainable Density

2012-08-08 Thread Dale Tronrud
into the space above. Was your protein exposed to that compound somewhere along the way? Dale Tronrud On 08/08/12 04:56, Mario Sniady wrote: While building our crystal structure model we encountered density which we weren't able to assign. The unknown molecule/molecules seems

Re: [ccp4bb] loading maps in coot using EDS

2012-08-08 Thread Dale Tronrud
that they can calculate as many maps as they do. Dale Tronrud On 08/08/12 13:39, Shya Biswas wrote: Hi all, I was trying to get maps using the *fetch PDB and Map using EDS option* in coot, however the map would not open I am using coot version 0.6.2 was wondering if anybody else had similar

Re: [ccp4bb] loading maps in coot using EDS

2012-08-08 Thread Dale Tronrud
you could download the map even if it existed. Dale Tronrud If you're not in a super rush I know the person who refined that specific PDB and I may be able to get you a copy of her final maps to send you off-board once she gets back from vacation. Cheers, Katherine On Wed, Aug 8

Re: [ccp4bb] comparing differences across multiple structures of the same protein

2012-09-10 Thread Dale Tronrud
objects. Remember, a lysine on the surface can probably be built in twenty different conformations and the difference map flat in every case while a couple atoms elsewhere could have a shift of 0.1 A that lights up the map. There are no generic cut-offs or thresholds that work. Dale Tronrud On 9

Re: [ccp4bb] Strange density

2012-11-28 Thread Dale Tronrud
with some long chelating molecule around the equator. In the extreme it could be some sort of porphyrin, although the density would be very poor if it was. Dale Tronrud On 11/28/2012 7:48 AM, Read, Jon wrote: Anyone see anything like this before? The data is 1.7Angstrom data with good statistics

Re: [ccp4bb] Strange density

2012-11-28 Thread Dale Tronrud
will be surrounded by a huge number of other features when you contour at 0.18 e/A^3 and by very few in the last map, but isn't that as it should be? The map is supposed to be flatter at the end. Dale Tronrud On 11/28/12 12:30, Pavel Afonine wrote: For map in e-/A^3 units to make sense one needs

Re: [ccp4bb] Strange density

2012-11-28 Thread Dale Tronrud
to be nonsense. If the molecule you are building will refine to an occupancy of 0.1 you could spend you time better by doing something else. Dale Tronrud On 11/28/12 15:13, Lijun Liu wrote: F000 contributes to the whole map as a level (F000/V). If calculated with a only difference of with or w/o F000

Re: [ccp4bb] archival memory?

2012-12-12 Thread Dale Tronrud
Good luck on your search in 100 years for a computer with a USB port. You will also need software that can read a FAT32 file system. Dale Glad I didn't buy a lot of disk drives with Firewire Tronrud On 12/12/2012 1:02 PM, Richard Gillilan wrote: SanDisk advertises a Memory Vault disk for

Re: [ccp4bb] archival memory?

2012-12-12 Thread Dale Tronrud
Holton has pointed out. I suppose there might be a cloud solution where you rely upon data just floating around out there in cyberspace with a life of its own. Richard On Dec 12, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Dale Tronrud wrote: Good luck on your search in 100 years for a computer with a USB port. You

Re: [ccp4bb] archival memory?

2012-12-12 Thread Dale Tronrud
and it is still going strong so I have high hopes for solid-state memory. It will be several years before 1 TB SSD's drop in price enough for the next move of my little archive. The SanDisk Memory Vault that started this thread maxes out at 16 GB. Dale Tronrud By the way if anybody has

Re: [ccp4bb] engh huber

2013-01-14 Thread Dale Tronrud
conformational variability being some changes with cis-peptide bonds. Shelxl still uses EH 1991. Dale Tronrud On 01/14/13 09:54, Ed Pozharski wrote: To what extent modern geometric restraints have been upgraded over original EnghHuber? And where I can find a consensus set of values (with variances

Re: [ccp4bb] how many metal sites

2013-01-16 Thread Dale Tronrud
the things you know with confidence as your guide. Dale Tronrud On 01/16/13 11:15, ruisher hu wrote: Hi, Dear All, I recently got a dataset about 2.3 A resolution, however, I got some trouble assigning the metal sites. It suppose to have multiple binding site(possibly four) around those four

Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 Update victim of own success

2013-04-11 Thread Dale Tronrud
. I'll have to experiment a bit. Dale Tronrud On 04/11/2013 05:17 AM, eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk wrote: Sorry that this was unclear. We assume that updater is used primarily from ccp4i, where nothing changed (and why it should be used from command line at all ?:)). The name was changed because

Re: [ccp4bb] problem with anisotropic refinement using refmac

2007-01-31 Thread Dale Tronrud
0.3% test set is as precise as a 10% test set in HEWL. (Even though the affect of leaving these reflections out of the refinement will be quite different, of course.) Dale Tronrud Andreas Forster wrote: Hey all, let me give this discussion a little kick and see if it spins into outer space

[ccp4bb] Converting TNT HKL Files to MTZ using CCP4I in CCP4 6.0.2

2007-02-08 Thread Dale Tronrud
/import.script: can't read fo: no such variable #CCP4I TERMINATION TIME 08 Feb 2007 22:59:11 #CCP4I MESSAGE Task failed I'm afraid I'm not fluent in TCL/TK. Can anyone tell me what I should do to get this working? Thanks, Dale Tronrud

Re: [ccp4bb] Summary - Valid to stop Refmac after TLS refinement?

2007-04-04 Thread Dale Tronrud
model should be no more or no less than what you can justifiably claim is a reflection of the true state of the molecule in your crystal. Dale Tronrud

Re: [ccp4bb] DANO from PDB

2007-06-09 Thread Dale Tronrud
solution. Dale Tronrud Peter Adrian Meyer wrote: I add a fake sigma column for each data column because so many programs require one. This is slightly tangential, but does anyone know of a good way to generate semi-realistic sigma values for calculated/simulated data? The best I've been able

Re: [ccp4bb] Ligand fitting in COOT and SHELX refinement

2007-06-22 Thread Dale Tronrud
U Sam wrote: Hi I would like to know following issue for a ligand. A ligand of a long alkyl chain can have multiple conformation. In coot in order to fit any protein residues into difference Density, we can select a specific rotamer conformation and refine. For fitting ligand of above kind, how

Re: [ccp4bb] The importance of USING our validation tools

2007-08-23 Thread Dale Tronrud
work. Dale Tronrud Edwin Pozharski wrote: Mischa, I don't think that the field of nanotechnology crumbled when allegations against Jan Hendrik Schon (21 papers withdrawn, 15 in Science/Nature) turned out to be true. I don't think that nobody trusts biologists anymore because of Eric

Re: [ccp4bb] Questions about diffraction

2007-08-24 Thread Dale Tronrud
is spreading out into space and so entropy increases. Dale Tronrud

Re: [ccp4bb] Questions about diffraction

2007-08-24 Thread Dale Tronrud
at the experiment either way. Dale Tronrud

Re: [ccp4bb] alternating strong/weak intensities in reciprocal planes - P622

2007-08-27 Thread Dale Tronrud
. The refinement program will attempt to overestimate the amplitudes of the high resolution Fc's to match the overestimated low resolution Fc's. Check you log files to ensure you bulk solvent correction is operating correctly. Dale Tronrud Jorge Iulek wrote: Dear all, Please, maybe you could give some

Re: [ccp4bb] How to number atoms in a ligand

2007-10-08 Thread Dale Tronrud
compound is in the PDB, using atom names based on it would simplify comparisons. Dale Tronrud Zheng Zhou wrote: Hi, all I am a rookie in crystallography. I know this may be a little bit off topic. I have cocrystallized several compounds with my favorite protein. I found crystal structures

Re: [ccp4bb] SFALL grid

2007-10-11 Thread Dale Tronrud
averaging a map that is only sampled at twice the rate you are interested in will not be a useful way to spend your time. Dale Tronrud whittle wrote: Hi: I am trying to generate structure factors from a mask/map that I made with NCSMASK. I get the following error message in SFALL: The program run

Re: [ccp4bb] Unidentified ligand (electron density) found at active site

2007-12-06 Thread Dale Tronrud
is much harder than building a model to fit the density. What is harder than identifying a bit of density, is coming up with an experiment to prove it. Dale Tronrud Ronaldo Alves Pinto Nagem wrote: Dear CCP4bb users, As suggested by some users, I am attaching to this email the electron density

Re: [ccp4bb] Sulfate ion on 2-fold axis

2008-01-09 Thread Dale Tronrud
if this is not what you would otherwise do. Dale Tronrud Charlie Bond wrote: Hi Jie, Depending on your resolution, you may be forced use to use S(0.5) and 4x(0.5) in order to restrain the SO4 to stay tetrahedral in refinement. Cheers, Charlie Jie Liu wrote: Dear all I have a sulfate ion sitting

Re: [ccp4bb] unbiased electron density map

2008-01-09 Thread Dale Tronrud
binding of a compound, for example, than a bias reduced map after refinement. Dale Tronrud michael nelson wrote: In my understanding, unbiased electron density map usually refers to the Fo-Fc map.But I have seen in some papers sentences like that The initial, unbiased 2F_o -F_c map is contoured

Re: [ccp4bb] unbiased electron density map

2008-01-10 Thread Dale Tronrud
Dirk Kostrewa wrote: Am 10.01.2008 um 01:53 schrieb Dale Tronrud: ... Your quote bring up another matter. An initial map, i.e. before refinement, is unbiased if it is an omit map. If you have done no refinement and you leave the interesting part out of the calculation of Fc there can

Re: [ccp4bb] an over refined structure

2008-02-08 Thread Dale Tronrud
of the problems we have with ncs in refinement and structure solution. Dale Tronrud Dirk Kostrewa wrote: Dear Dean and others, Peter Zwart gave me a similar reply. This is very interesting discussion, and I would like to have a somewhat closer look to this to maybe make things a little bit

Re: [ccp4bb] an over refined structure

2008-02-08 Thread Dale Tronrud
justify breaking your ncs. A drop in Rfree when you break ncs does not necessarily mean that breaking ncs is a good idea. You always have to perform the proper null hypothesis test. Dale Tronrud At 01:05 PM 2/8/2008, Axel Brunger wrote: In such cases, we always define the test set first

Re: [ccp4bb] an over refined structure

2008-02-08 Thread Dale Tronrud
Bart Hazes wrote: Dale Tronrud wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rotational near-crystallographic ncs is easy to handle this way, but what about translational pseudo-symmetry (or should that be pseudo-translational symmetry)? In such cases one whole set of spots is systematically weaker

Re: [ccp4bb] an over refined structure

2008-02-12 Thread Dale Tronrud
winded post, but sometimes I get these things stuck in my head and I can't get any work done until I get it out. I hope it helps, or at least is not complete nonsense. Dale Tronrud

[ccp4bb] Calculating R-factor and maps from a Refmac model containing TLS downloaded from the PDB

2008-03-12 Thread Dale Tronrud
in are not present in the Electron Density Server, so I suspect I'm not alone in fighting this battle. Any advice would be appreciated, Dale Tronrud

Re: [ccp4bb] Summary: Calculating R-factor and maps from a Refmac model containing TLS downloaded from the PDB

2008-03-17 Thread Dale Tronrud
is going on here. Dale Tronrud Dale Tronrud wrote: Hi, I am looking over a number of models from the PDB but have been unable to reproduce the R-factors for any model that was refined with Refmac and contains TLS parameters. I usually can't get within 5% of the reported value

Re: [ccp4bb] Friedel vs Bijvoet

2008-06-26 Thread Dale Tronrud
(with the limiting case of only F000). Dale Tronrud Bernhard Rupp wrote: Let's try this again, with definitions, and pls scream if I am wrong: a) Any reflection pair hR = h forms a symmetry related pair. R is any one of G point group operators of the SG. This is a set of reflections (S

Re: [ccp4bb] Friedel vs Bijvoet

2008-06-26 Thread Dale Tronrud
not the original reflection. Dale Tronrud Sounds more like centric or perhaps simply symmetry related to me. A few lines below: A Bijvoet difference refers to the difference in measured amplitude for a Bijvoet pair I don't think you can have it both ways ?? BR

Re: [ccp4bb] D-Amino acids to L-Amino acids

2008-08-02 Thread Dale Tronrud
the result, drag the CA to the side you want. You may have over-drag to get it to stay. It only takes a moment. But don't assume that your refinement program is just doing something stupid. Look for the primal cause. Dale Tronrud Yusuf Akhter wrote: Hi Everybody, I am refining structure

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac5 and dual conformation of a dual conformation

2009-02-02 Thread Dale Tronrud
for deposition, since you will not have to worry about enforcing the superposition of atoms any longer. That may be clearer to people who use the model at a later date. Dale Tronrud Andy Millston wrote: I am currently trying to refine a structure where a 5 residue stretch of a chain is in 2

Re: [ccp4bb] comparison of maps, intensities and other basics

2009-02-05 Thread Dale Tronrud
. Dale Tronrud Peter Schmidtke wrote: Dear CCP4BB List Members, first of all I am not a crystallographer, but I would like to get some things clear, things I did not find in Crystallography Made Crystal Clear and on the internet for now. I am trying to read electron density maps

Re: [ccp4bb] 3ftt and gremlins

2009-03-12 Thread Dale Tronrud
deposited only to find out that the investigator's wedding photos were accidentally deposited instead. Validating that the images correspond to the claimed structure will be an enormous task; probably more difficult than coming up with enough hard drives to store them all. Dale Tronrud Frank

Re: [ccp4bb] Is it possible to mutate a reversible epimerase into an inreversible one?

2010-05-18 Thread Dale Tronrud
of equilibrium (such as ATP hydrolysis in the cell) but I don't think that's a simple mutation of your enzyme. ;-) Dale Tronrud On 05/18/10 00:31, Vinson LIANG wrote: Dear all, Sorry for this silly biochemistory question. Thing is that I have a reversible epimerase and I want to mutate

Re: [ccp4bb] Is it possible to mutate a reversible epimerase into an inreversible one?

2010-05-21 Thread Dale Tronrud
...@gmail.com/ // On May 18, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Dale Tronrud wrote: Hi, I'm more of a Fourier coefficient kind of guy, but I thought that a #916G of zero simply corresponded to an equilibrium constant of one. You can certainly

Re: [ccp4bb] Far to good r-factors

2010-06-01 Thread Dale Tronrud
of high resolution data as they are in its presence. Dale Tronrud On 06/01/10 04:51, Ian Tickle wrote: On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Dale Tronrud det...@uoxray.uoregon.edu wrote: One of the great mysteries of refinement is that a model created using high resolution data will fit a low

Re: [ccp4bb] MR on low resolution soaking data.

2010-06-07 Thread Dale Tronrud
. Don't worry about the ligand until you solve the protein structure. Whether you see it in the end will depend on how big it is and how good your 4 A data are. Of course, it's possible that it doesn't bind at all. Dale Tronrud On 06/07/10 12:17, yang li wrote: Dear colleagues

[ccp4bb] New Version of the Protein Geometry Database Operational

2010-06-07 Thread Dale Tronrud
A new version of the Protein Geometry Database (PGD) has just been released. This version includes - The ability to compose queries and analyze the behavior of side chain chi angles. - Structures released in the wwPDB up to April 8, 2010 consisting of roughly 18,000 nonredundant protein

Re: [ccp4bb] Odd loop stabilised by an cation

2010-07-02 Thread Dale Tronrud
of any matches found. If you need any detailed assistance using this server, I'd be happy to help. Dale Tronrud On 07/02/10 05:44, Domen Zafred wrote: Dear all, There is an odd loop on the surface of my structure. Three back-bone oxygen atoms are turned in the same direction the structure

Re: [ccp4bb] How to make fft-map more physically meaningful?

2010-07-08 Thread Dale Tronrud
idea of offsetting the minimum to zero may be more satisfactory. Ed Ed is right, of course. Just remember to include ALL the electrons in the unit cell - both those of the protein and those of the solvent, ordered and disordered. Dale Tronrud

Re: [ccp4bb] Mysterious density

2010-07-09 Thread Dale Tronrud
Cyclized DTT can look similar to this blob. Of course the sulfur atoms would make one end of the blob more dense than the other. Dale Tronrud On 07/09/10 05:12, Nick Quade wrote: Dear CCP4 community, I have solved the structure of a protein in complex with DNA. But, inside the protein

Re: [ccp4bb] Deposition of riding H

2010-09-15 Thread Dale Tronrud
. Otherwise it's the same as saying that I've refined TLS ADP's but not saying what the TLS parameters were nor listing the atoms in each TLS group. Dale Tronrud P.S. George: Do you think hydrogen atoms generated by the HFIX 137 command should be deposited? They are placed based on the electron

Re: [ccp4bb] Map density level

2010-09-16 Thread Dale Tronrud
out a water molecule. That way you can see what a good water molecule looks like in your current difference map and can compare other potential water molecules to it. Dale Tronrud On 09/16/10 10:13, Nathaniel Clark wrote: Hi, It can, just do fm-mode select rmsd I am curious though, I have

Re: [ccp4bb] embarrassingly simple MAD phasing question (another)

2010-10-14 Thread Dale Tronrud
that in the presence of anomalous scattering the phase of F(000) is not zero. It is also the only reflection who's phase is not affected by the choice of origin. Dale Tronrud On 10/13/10 22:38, James Holton wrote: An interesting guide to doing phasing by hand is to look at direct methods (I recommend

Re: [ccp4bb] quantum diffraction

2010-10-15 Thread Dale Tronrud
On 10/15/10 12:38, Bart Hazes wrote: The photon moves through the crystal in finite time and most of the time it keeps going without interacting with the crystal, i.e. no diffraction. However, if diffraction occurs it is instantaneous, or at least so fast as to consider it instantaneous. In

[ccp4bb] Enforcing ncs on water molecules

2010-11-15 Thread Dale Tronrud
the waters in each cluster to the average location. Has someone already written something along these lines? If so, I would rather not duplicate their effort. Thanks in advance, Dale Tronrud

Re: [ccp4bb] Space group and R/Rfree value

2010-12-01 Thread Dale Tronrud
. With the assumption of C centering these weak reflections are discarded and the R values will go down. Your goal is not to reduce the R values, but to fit the data. If these reflections have non-zero intensities you must integrate them and add them to your refinement. Dale Tronrud On 12/01/10 08:31, Xiaopeng

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Wyckoff positions and protein atoms

2010-12-10 Thread Dale Tronrud
the occupancy of B 31 set to 0.33 and that of D 31 set to 1.00 simply because of an insignificant shift in the position of the atom. Dale Tronrud On 12/10/10 13:53, Ian Tickle wrote: Good point Colin! 2-Zn insulin is of course a classic example of this, where the two independent Zn2+ ions both sit

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Wyckoff positions and protein atoms

2010-12-15 Thread Dale Tronrud
to forbid coexistence the occupancy should be 1/n. I think either assumption is reasonable but, of course, prefer mine for what I consider practical reasons. It helps that I have to code to make mine work. Dale Tronrud On 12/15/10 08:54, Ian Tickle wrote: Hi Herman What makes an atom

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Wyckoff positions and protein atoms

2010-12-16 Thread Dale Tronrud
and maps would be insignificant anyway, so it may as well be on-axis. If the difference is insignificant, it may as well be off-axis. I guess if the difference is insignificant it just comes down to personal preferences. Dale Tronrud I think this is how the Oxford CRYSTALS software

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Wyckoff positions and protein atoms

2010-12-16 Thread Dale Tronrud
be a little off. All structural models are fuzzy. Dale Tronrud

Re: [ccp4bb] Noisy difference maps with high solvent content?

2011-01-28 Thread Dale Tronrud
are errors as significant as the one you created. Dale Tronrud On 01/28/11 12:29, Todd Geders wrote: Greetings CCP4bb, *Short version: Very noisy difference maps from a crystal with extremely high solvent content, seeking advice on how best to handle such high solvent content to eliminate

[ccp4bb] Ken Olsen, Founder of Digital Equipment Corporation, Died Sunday

2011-02-08 Thread Dale Tronrud
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Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-03-30 Thread Dale Tronrud
on ATOM/HETATM records are already defined with great specificity, if you want the model to contain additional information you will have to define new parameters, or some way to specify the information you want to include using other, existing, records more adequate to the task (e.g. SIGATM). Dale

Re: [ccp4bb] The meaning of B-factor, was Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-03-31 Thread Dale Tronrud
factors into this field in the PDB file. Dale Tronrud On 3/31/2011 9:06 AM, Zbyszek Otwinowski wrote: The B-factor in crystallography represents the convolution (sum) of two types of uncertainties about the atom (electron cloud) position: 1) dispersion of atom positions in crystal lattice 2

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-03-31 Thread Dale Tronrud
your magic B factor either. You can't out-think someone who's not paying attention. At some point you have to assume that people being paid to perform research will learn the basics of the data they are using, even if you know that assumption is not 100% true. Dale Tronrud

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-03-31 Thread Dale Tronrud
solves the problem and not simply creates more confusion. Dale Tronrud P.S. I just Googled occupancy zero. The top hit is a letter from Bernhard Rupp recommending that occupancies not be set to zero :-)

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-04-03 Thread Dale Tronrud
will continue to return to this argument again and again with no possibility of coming to a solution. Dale Tronrud P.S. I've even thought about using the model of the REMARK statement, where all sorts of information have been added by the hack of standardized remarks. I thought that one could create

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-04-04 Thread Dale Tronrud
works of art are unleashed on the world. Seems like a win-win solution to me. Dale Tronrud On 4/3/2011 9:17 PM, Jacob Keller wrote: Well, what about getting the default settings on the major molecular viewers to hide atoms with either occ=0 or bcutoff (novice mode?)? While the b cutoff

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