Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Torrents are too fast

of the torrent headers has not changed sufficiently in the last 5 years ;) Best Regards Sebastian 2014-11-21 12:51 GMT+01:00 Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de: HI Dane hi Dave, On Nov 20, 2014, at 17:25 , Dane Medic dm7...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for advice Dave. I'm just

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] tinc vpn: adding dscp passthrough (priorityinherit), ecn, and fq_codel support

Hi, on the danger of going off on a tangent... On Dec 4, 2014, at 01:45 , dpr...@reed.com wrote: Awesome start on the issue, in your note, Dave. Tor needs to change for several reasons - not that it isn't great, but with IPv6 and other things coming on line, plus the understanding of

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Cerowrt-devel Digest, Vol 37, Issue 24

Hi David, On Dec 21, 2014, at 17:45 , David P. Reed dpr...@reed.com wrote: All microwave frequencies heat water molecules, fyi. The early ovens used a klystron that was good at 2.4 GHZ because it was available and cheap enough. But they don't radiate much. 5.8 GHz was chosen because the

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Cerowrt-devel Digest, Vol 37, Issue 24

Hi Eric, On Dec 23, 2014, at 05:45 , Eric Johansson e...@eggo.org wrote: http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/propagation/path-loss/free-space-formula-equation.php http://www.vk3um.com/atmosphere%20calculator.html hopefully these two calculators will be helpful in understanding more

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [sqm-scripts] not started at boot?

is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify # it under the terms of the GNU General Public License version 2 as # published by the Free Software Foundation. # # Copyright (C) 2012-4 Michael D. Taht, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen, Sebastian Moeller . /lib/functions.sh STOP=$1

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [sqm-scripts] not started at boot?

Hi Toke, hi Alan, On Feb 15, 2015, at 17:18 , Toke Høiland-Jørgensen t...@toke.dk wrote: Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de writes: Not that I have shown great taste in the past, but I think it would be somewhat cleaner to put the logic into the hot plug script and keep run.sh “simple

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [sqm-scripts] not started at boot?

Hi Alan, On Feb 15, 2015, at 15:39 , Alan Jenkins alan.christopher.jenk...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Toke I tried installing sqm-scripts from trunk, on Barrier Breaker on my wndr3800. It's very effective, but I notice SQM isn't applied at boot time. The system log complains about pppoe-wan

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [sqm-scripts] not started at boot?

Hi Toke, On Feb 15, 2015, at 16:56 , Toke Høiland-Jørgensen t...@toke.dk wrote: Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de writes: I am not sure that this works as intended. The first thing run.sh does is take down all running SQM instances: Ah yes, seems I was a bit too trigger-happy

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [sqm-scripts] not started at boot?

Hi Alan, hi Toke, On Feb 15, 2015, at 17:33 , Alan Jenkins alan.christopher.jenk...@gmail.com wrote: On 15/02/15 15:56, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de writes: I am not sure that this works as intended. The first thing run.sh does is take down all

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] DOCSIS 3+ recommendation?

Hi David, On March 18, 2015 5:34:30 AM GMT+01:00, David P. Reed dpr...@reed.com wrote: It is not the cable modem itself that is bufferbloated. It is the head end working with the cable modem. Docsis 3 has mechanisms to avoid queue buildup but they are turned on by the head end. I seem to

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Codel] The next slice of cake

Hi Jonathan, On Mar 18, 2015, at 09:41 , Jonathan Morton chromati...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder, are the low priority classes configured with a guaranteed minimum bandwidth to avoid starvation? And will they opportunistically grab all left over bandwidth to fill the pipe? Then speed test

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Codel] The next slice of cake

Hi Jonathan, Great work. @Dave is there a cerowrt or openwrt build around that includes cake? On March 17, 2015 9:08:39 PM GMT+01:00, Jonathan Morton chromati...@gmail.com wrote: After far too long, it looks like I’ll have the opportunity to work on sch_cake a bit more. So here’s a little bit

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] The next slice of cake

Hi Dave, On March 17, 2015 11:38:10 PM GMT+01:00, Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: now in mainline openwrt chaos calmer is a version of sqm-scripts that will allow for the use of cake or cake2, if you have iproute2 support for it (which is not mainlined). It simplifies the sqm-scripts code

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM and PPPoE, more questions than answers...

. My question still is, is the bandwidth sacrifice really necessary or is this test just showing a corner case in simple.qos that can be fixed. I currently lack enough time to tackle this effectively. On 15/10/14 01:03, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Hi All, some more testing: On Oct 12, 2014

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM and PPPoE, more questions than answers...

HI Alan, On Mar 19, 2015, at 10:42 , Alan Jenkins alan.christopher.jenk...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/03/15 08:29, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Hi Alan, On Mar 18, 2015, at 23:14 , Alan Jenkins alan.christopher.jenk...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Seb I tested shaping on eth1 vs pppoe-wan

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM and PPPoE, more questions than answers...

Hi David, On Mar 19, 2015, at 03:43 , David Lang da...@lang.hm wrote: On Wed, 18 Mar 2015, Alan Jenkins wrote: Once SQM on ge00 actually dives into the PPPoE packets and applies/tests u32 filters the LUL increases to be almost identical to pppoe-ge00’s if both ingress and egress

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] DOCSIS 3+ recommendation?

Hi All, I guess I have nothing to say that most of you don’t know already, but... On Mar 20, 2015, at 00:18 , Greg White g.wh...@cablelabs.com wrote: Netalyzr is great for network geeks, hardly consumer-friendly, and even so the network buffer measurements part is buried in 150 other

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] DOCSIS 3+ recommendation?

Hi David, On Mar 20, 2015, at 14:31 , David P. Reed dpr...@reed.com wrote: The mystery in most users' minds is that ping at a time when there is no load does tell them anything at all about why the network connection will such when their kid is uploading to youtube. But it does, by

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] still trying to find hardware for the next generation worth hacking on

Oh sweet. On Mar 9, 2015, at 13:53 , Guillaume Fortaine guillaume.forta...@devopspace.com wrote: Hello, Turris Lite describes itself as „Raspberry PI for networking“ : https://lite.turris.cz/en/ *Features* -open hardware designed for open software -high power - dual core CPU

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt bits not in OpenWrt (renamed thread)

On Mar 12, 2015, at 22:59 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen t...@toke.dk wrote: sqm-scripts / luci-app-sqm is only available from CC (trunk). The CC version can be installed manually, but it will complain leave you with

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt bits not in OpenWrt (renamed thread)

On Mar 13, 2015, at 01:50 , Alan Jenkins alan.christopher.jenk...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/03/15 21:47, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: sqm-scripts / luci-app-sqm is only available from CC (trunk). The CC version can be installed manually, but it will complain leave you with warnings about

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] archer c7 v2, policing, hostapd, test openwrt build

Hi Jonathan, TL;DR: I do not think my measurements show that ingress handling via IFB is that costly ( 5% bandwidth), that avoiding it will help much. I do not think that conclusion will change much if more data is acquired (and I do not intend to collect more ;) ) Also the current diffserv

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] archer c7 v2, policing, hostapd, test openwrt build

Hi Jonathan, On Mar 29, 2015, at 14:48 , Jonathan Morton chromati...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 Mar, 2015, at 14:16, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Okay, so it looks like you get another 5% without any shaping running. So in summary: - With no shaping at all, the router

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] archer c7 v2, policing, hostapd, test openwrt build

Hi Jonathan On Mar 29, 2015, at 08:17 , Jonathan Morton chromati...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 Mar, 2015, at 04:14, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: I do not think my measurements show that ingress handling via IFB is that costly ( 5% bandwidth), that avoiding it will help much

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] archer c7 v2, policing, hostapd, test openwrt build

Hi Jonathan, hi Dave, On March 23, 2015 3:10:52 AM GMT+01:00, Jonathan Morton chromati...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 Mar, 2015, at 03:45, David Lang da...@lang.hm wrote: are we running into performance issues with fq_codel? I thought all the problems were with HTB or ingress shaping. Cake is,

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [sqm-scripts] not started at boot?

Hallo Alan, On Mar 3, 2015, at 23:39 , Alan Jenkins alan.christopher.jenk...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/03/2015, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Alan, Excellent, now we have positive results from CC (you are running CC I believe) and cerowrt. I'm afraid I'm running BB

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] archer c7 v2, policing, hostapd, test openwrt build

Hi Jonathan, On Mar 24, 2015, at 09:13 , Jonathan Morton chromati...@gmail.com wrote: What I'm seeing on your first tests is that double egress gives you slightly more download at the expense of slightly less upload throughout. The aggregate is higher. But it is only slightly

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] archer c7 v2, policing, hostapd, test openwrt build

Hi Jonathan, On Mar 23, 2015, at 14:43 , Jonathan Morton chromati...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 Mar, 2015, at 08:09, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: It obviously degrade local performance of se00 and hence be not a true solution unless one is happy to fully dedicate a box as shaper

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] archer c7 v2, policing, hostapd, test openwrt build

Hi Dave, I take it policing is still not cutting it then, and the “hunt” for a wndr3[7|8]000 is still on? It look the archer c7v2 does roughly twice as good as the old cerowrt reference model, a decent improvement, but not yet present-safe let alone future-safe... Best Regards

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] archer c7 v2, policing, hostapd, test openwrt build

was going over se00 from a machine that should be able to deliver = 100Mbps symmetric. Best Regards Sebastian On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Jonathan, hi List, So I got around to a bit of rrul testing of the dual egress idea to asses

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] squash/ignore DSCP and mangle table questions

Hi there, On Apr 13, 2015, at 18:48 , leetminiwheat leetminiwh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Could you post the output of calling the following commands on your router please: /etc/init.d/sqm stop /etc

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] squash/ignore DSCP and mangle table questions

Hi leetminiwheat, On Apr 22, 2015, at 02:19 , leetminiwheat leetminiwh...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry this is getting a bit off-topic here. On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: On Apr 15, 2015, at 03:35 , leetminiwheat leetminiwh...@gmail.com wrote: I

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] heisenbug: dslreports 16 flow test vs cablemodems

Hi Lars, On May 15, 2015, at 10:18 , Eggert, Lars l...@netapp.com wrote: On 2015-5-15, at 06:44, Aaron Wood wood...@gmail.com wrote: ICMP prioritization over TCP? Probably. Interesting so far I often heard ICMP echo requests are bad as they are often rate-limited and/or processed

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] heisenbug: dslreports 16 flow test vs cablemodems

Hi Jonathan, On May 18, 2015 5:40:30 PM GMT+02:00, Jonathan Morton chromati...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Adding Diffserv and recommending that LEDBAT applications use the “background” traffic class (CS1 DSCP) solves this problem more elegantly. The share of bandwidth used by BitTorrent (say) is

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] squash/ignore DSCP and mangle table questions

Hi leetminiwheat, On Apr 15, 2015, at 03:35 , leetminiwheat leetminiwh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: This looks reasonable. [...] I had a look at my cerowrt router and I also see txqueuelen at 1000, but IIRC

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] [Bloat] heisenbug: dslreports 16 flow test vs cablemodems

Hi David, On May 18, 2015, at 17:09 , dpr...@reed.com wrote: I'm curious as to why one would need low priority class if you were using fq_codel? Are the LEDBAT flows indistinguishable? Well, as far as I can tell fq_codel treats all flows the same, but we want LEDBAT flows to

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] ingress rate limiting falling short

Hi Aaron, about the 5% loss with the wndr, please remember that the shaper works typically on raw Ethernet rates, while flent reports TCP good put I believe. So roughly 2 to 6 percent difference can be explained with a combination of the following overheads: PTM/ATM, ethernet, VLAN(s), PPPoE,

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; cake overhead 40 didn't)

Hi Mikael, On Jun 23, 2015, at 14:55 , Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Most likely not. Check http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/sqm . Rich published a great set of instructions for setting up sqm-scripts under openwrt proper

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; cake overhead 40 didn't

Hi Alan, On Jun 19, 2015, at 19:35 , Alan Jenkins alan.christopher.jenk...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/06/2015, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Alan, excellent, thanks a million. On Jun 19, 2015, at 16:44 , Alan Jenkins alan.christopher.jenk...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I guess

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] that latest build I did is looking good

Hi Dave, this looks really great, thanks a lot. As I want to take part in the cake party, this looks like the easiest/best way to start. On Jun 25, 2015, at 19:34 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: I have been abusing it on a picostation and nanostation now for 48 hours. The archer c7v2

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; cake overhead 40 didn't

to set up the scripting capability in flent now. Running this manually takes too long! Best Regards Sebastian Alan On 18/06/2015, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Not sure I can test functionality, but at least I could confirm the following: 1) using the tc

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; cake overhead 40 didn't

Hi Jim, On Jun 23, 2015, at 04:41 , Jim Reisert AD1C jjreis...@alum.mit.edu wrote: On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Dave Taht wrote: Fresh bits! Get your fresh bits here! (totally untested) http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~cero3/lupin/ar71xx/ I installed the factory image on a

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; cake overhead 40 didn't)

Hi Mikael, On Jun 26, 2015, at 14:26 , Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: On Fri, 26 Jun 2015, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Thanks for the tests, now I know what router to try next (the edgerouterX, which I had eyed as a replacement for the shaper in the wndr3700 tops out at 130K

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Any chance for the LUCI GUI for cake appearing?

Hi Jim, On Jun 26, 2015, at 19:21 , Jim Gettys j...@freedesktop.org wrote: Inquiring minds would like to know…. I guess, that depends on your definition of “LUCI GUI for cake”; as far as I know you can select cake in the “Queueing Discipline” drop down in the “Queue Discipline” tab

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Any chance for the LUCI GUI for cake appearing?

is a PITA. Then adding in something that can mesh by default on 2 others. and then trying to get anything to compile for another arch entirely and failing... On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Jim, On Jun 26, 2015, at 19:21 , Jim Gettys j

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; cake overhead 40 didn't)

HI Mikael, On Jun 26, 2015, at 16:49 , Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: On Fri, 26 Jun 2015, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: Btw, I tried WNDR3800 setting it to 100/100 SQM. It seems to max out around 25-30k PPS, but the difference is that when the CPU is full, it seems to

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Any chance for the LUCI GUI for cake appearing?

Regards Sebastian On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Jim, On Jun 26, 2015, at 19:21 , Jim Gettys j...@freedesktop.org wrote: Inquiring minds would like to know…. I guess, that depends on your definition of “LUCI GUI for cake

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; cake overhead 40 didn't)

Hi Mikael, thanks a lot. On Jun 24, 2015, at 13:31 , Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Sebastian Moeller wrote: As Dave said it would be nice see RRUL data from the same testbed. It would be so nice if flint had a way to send different sized TCP packets… (I

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] that latest build I did is looking good

Hi Dave, On Jun 26, 2015, at 00:26 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Dave, this looks really great, thanks a lot. As I want to take part in the cake party, this looks like the easiest/best way to start

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] active sensing queue management

Hi Dave, On Jun 10, 2015, at 21:53 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: http://dl.ifip.org/db/conf/networking/networking2015/1570064417.pdf gargoyle's qos system follows a similar approach, using htb + sfq, and a short ttl udp flow. Doing this sort of measured, then floating the rate

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] [Cake] active sensing queue management

Hi David, On Jun 12, 2015, at 03:44 , David Lang da...@lang.hm wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2015, Sebastian Moeller wrote: On Jun 11, 2015, at 03:05 , Alan Jenkins alan.christopher.jenk...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/06/15 21:54, Sebastian Moeller wrote: One solution would be if ISPs made sure

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] openwrt build available with latest cake and fq_pie

On Jun 14, 2015, at 21:32 , Alan Jenkins alan.christopher.jenk...@gmail.com wrote: On 14/06/15 17:09, Dave Taht wrote: [...] Patches gladly accepted (tc-adv now does parse the new keywords I think) Yes to both. I'd already tested cake atm + stab overhead. This time I was dropping

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] active sensing queue management

Hi Daniel, On Jun 12, 2015, at 17:02 , Daniel Havey dha...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:27 AM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: [...] Except that DOCSIS 3.1 pie in the modem does not work that way. As I understand http://www.cablelabs.com/wp-content/uploads

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] active sensing queue management

the market upstream PIE in the modems will be reality. On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Dave, On Jun 10, 2015, at 21:53 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: http://dl.ifip.org/db/conf/networking/networking2015/1570064417.pdf gargoyle's

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] policer question

Hi Dave, hi list, On May 27, 2015, at 19:12 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 3:49 AM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Dave, I just stumbled over your last edit of wondershaper needs to go the way of the dodo”; especially the following caught my

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] ingress rate limiting falling short

HI Aaron, On Jun 3, 2015, at 07:45 , Aaron Wood wood...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote this up on my blog, where I can intersperse text and graphs a bit better: http://burntchrome.blogspot.com/2015/06/htb-rate-limiting-not-quite-lining-up.html Basically, I ran a series of tcp_download tests,

[Cerowrt-devel] policer question

Hi Dave, I just stumbled over your last edit of wondershaper needs to go the way of the dodo”; especially the following caught my attention (lines 303 - 311): ## The ingress policer doesn't work against ipv6, so if you have mixed traffic ## you are not matching all of it, and the policer fails

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Build instructions for regular OpenWRT with Ceropackages

On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:32 , Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: On Wed, 1 Jul 2015, David Lang wrote: not true, the switch doesn't give any way for traffic to get from one vlan to the other one, so if you have gig-e connections on both sides, the traffic going from one to the other

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; cake overhead 40 didn't)

Hi Mikael, On Jun 29, 2015, at 15:00 , Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: [...] Hi, Ok, yes, this worked, I must have forgotten do to update after I moved ceropackages to the top of the list before. Thanks! So now I have a sysupgrade image for the wrt1200ac that out of the box

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; cake overhead 40 didn't)

HI Mikael,, hi Jonathan, [...] These are the results from 50M and 500M, also including 50up and 50down that I added to my test suite script. http://swm.pp.se/aqm/rrul_150629-cake-4.tar Now both ingress and egress are up to roughly 455Mbps from roughly 360 with cake just playing leaf

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; cake overhead 40 didn't)

Hi Dave, hi Mikael, On Jun 27, 2015, at 19:59 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Yea, well, you need to use a diffserv enabled test to see marks or drops in other queues. Sort of my hope is that cake can run at 940mbit with software rate limiting. But we probably need to find

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; cake overhead 40 didn't)

Hi Mikael, On Jun 28, 2015, at 09:06 , Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: On Fri, 26 Jun 2015, Dave Taht wrote: src-git https://github.com/dtaht/ceropackages-3.10.git ./scripts feeds update ./scripts feeds install kmod-sched-cake tc-adv kmod-sched-fq_pie edit the .config file

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; cake overhead 40 didn't)

Hi Mikael, On Jun 28, 2015, at 22:48 , Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: On Sun, 28 Jun 2015, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Hi Mikael, root@OpenWrt:~# tc -d qdisc qdisc htb 1: dev eth0 root refcnt 9 r2q 10 default 12 direct_packets_stat 0 ver 3.17 direct_qlen 532 qdisc fq_codel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; cake overhead 40 didn't)

Hi Dave, hi List, On Jun 28, 2015, at 20:04 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: htb + cake is the wrong configuration. :) “Wrong” might be a bit hard, but certainly not the preferred solution. During my tests on your box simple.qos resulted in the following:

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; cake overhead 40 didn't)

Hi Mikael, thanks a lot. On Jun 28, 2015, at 19:32 , Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: On Sun, 28 Jun 2015, Sebastian Moeller wrote: This looks great, could you by any chance confirm that the GUI does allow to configure cake and that you can or can not set the overhead

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; cake overhead 40 didn't)

Hi List, On Jun 29, 2015, at 18:44 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 6:42 AM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: HI Mikael,, hi Jonathan, [...] These are the results from 50M and 500M, also including 50up and 50down that I added to my test suite

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] active sensing queue management

Hi Alan, On Jun 11, 2015, at 03:05 , Alan Jenkins alan.christopher.jenk...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/06/15 21:54, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Hi Dave, On Jun 10, 2015, at 21:53 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: http://dl.ifip.org/db/conf/networking/networking2015/1570064417.pdf

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] failing to find the declared victory in a current wifi router

Hi Joe, I like your snark… And I like Rich’s elegant restraint in his response, always polite always friendly. On Jul 7, 2015, at 06:22 , Joe Touch to...@isi.edu wrote: Hi, Rich, On 7/6/2015 7:23 PM, Rich Brown wrote: Hi Joe, The OpenWrt firmware project is a some assembly required

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; cake overhead 40 didn't)

HI Mikael, On Jun 29, 2015, at 09:54 , Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: On Mon, 29 Jun 2015, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Good work-around; not a real solution as sqm_logger() will also add SQM:”. I think the solution most likely is to remove line 155 completely. But weirdly

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; cake overhead 40 didn't)

HI Mikael, On Jun 29, 2015, at 10:09 , Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: On Mon, 29 Jun 2015, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Ah, I see, you are still using tc’s stab mechanism for account of per packet overhead and link layer adjustments instead of cake’s (you need to check

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] some reference numbers for cake performance on x86_64

Hi Dave, hi list, On Jun 29, 2015, at 01:42 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: This is a set of two hop (client-server through switch) results, with sch_fq on the nuc client, and cake on the rangeley (ranger) server. Since we seem to be aiming for sane results from the mvneta, at

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; cake overhead 40 didn't)

On Jun 29, 2015, at 10:17 , Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: On Mon, 29 Jun 2015, Sebastian Moeller wrote: and hope that sqm_logger() { logger -t SQM -s ${1}” } Fixes the issue for me and is more concise than trying to introduce real error handling in sqm_logger. Does

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; cake overhead 40 didn't)

HI Mikael, On Jun 29, 2015, at 09:54 , Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: On Mon, 29 Jun 2015, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Good work-around; not a real solution as sqm_logger() will also add SQM:”. I think the solution most likely is to remove line 155 completely. But weirdly

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; cake overhead 40 didn't)

qdisc option strings in the queue discipline tab should work (caveat no error checking so one typo and the qdisc will most likely not be set-up properly). Best Regards Sebastian On Jun 29, 2015, at 10:09 , Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: On Mon, 29 Jun 2015, Sebastian

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] [tsvwg] Comments on draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11e

Hi Jonathan, On July 30, 2015 11:56:23 PM GMT+02:00, Jonathan Morton chromati...@gmail.com wrote: Hardware people tend to think in terms of simple priority queues, much like old fashioned military communications (see the original IP precedence spec). Higher priority thus gets higher throughput

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] Fwd: [tsvwg] Comments on draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11e

Oh, boy, On Jul 23, 2015, at 09:49 , Alan Jenkins alan.christopher.jenk...@gmail.com wrote: On 23/07/15 08:44, Jonathan Morton wrote: Link to the spec? - Jonathan Morton https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11e/ Not that I am a domain expert,

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm

re he can vary the transmission delay so he might know already whether sqm has issues with 1GE lans. Best Regards Sebastian > > On Oct 24, 2015, Sebastian Moeller <moell...@gmx.de> wrote: > Hi David, > > On Oct 24, 2015, at 00:53 , David P. Reed <dpr...@reed.

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm

Hi Dave, On Oct 24, 2015, at 12:20 , Dave Taht wrote: > Another thought is that this hardware agressively does GRO - 64k > "packets"really messes up htb. We already showed that problem in the > previous generation. Good point. To disable the offloads one needs to

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm

Hi Aaron, On Oct 23, 2015, at 19:22 , Aaron Wood wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Richard Smith wrote: > I have a shiny new Linksys WRT1900ACS to test. > > I thought it might be nice to start with some comparisons of factory firmware >

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm

Hi Alan, hi Richard, On Oct 23, 2015, at 19:02 , Alan Jenkins wrote: > On 23/10/2015, Richard Smith wrote: >> I have a shiny new Linksys WRT1900ACS to test. >> >> I thought it might be nice to start with some comparisons of factory >>

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm

Hi David, On Oct 24, 2015, at 00:48 , David P. Reed wrote: > Sqm is a way to deal with the dsl or cable modem having bufferbloat. In the > configuration described neither end is the problem ... the DUT itself may > have bufferbloat. But our claim is that we “solved”

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm

Hi David, On Oct 24, 2015, at 00:53 , David P. Reed wrote: > In particular, the DUT should probably have no more than 2 packets of > outbound queueing given the very small RTT. 2xRTT is the most buffering you > want in the loop. Let’s not haggle about the precise

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm

Hi David, On Oct 23, 2015, at 19:57 , David Lang wrote: > On Fri, 23 Oct 2015, Aaron Wood wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Richard Smith wrote: >> >>> I have a shiny new Linksys WRT1900ACS to test. >>> >>> I thought it might be nice to start

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm (solved)

Hi Richard, On Oct 25, 2015, at 21:02 , Richard Smith wrote: > On 10/25/2015 01:36 PM, Rich Brown wrote: > >> We really do believe in this stuff. We've seen it work. But each of >> us is enough of a scientist to believe that *we could be wrong*. (I >> suspect that's why

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm (solved)

Hi David, On Oct 26, 2015, at 19:15 , David Lang wrote: > On Mon, 26 Oct 2015, Dave Taht wrote: > >> in terms of testing wifi, the most useful series of tests to conduct >> at the moment - since we plan to fix per station queuing soon > > how soon is 'soon'? I'm going to be

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm (solved)

Hi Richard, On Oct 25, 2015, at 17:07 , Richard Smith wrote: > On 10/25/2015 11:10 AM, Richard Smith wrote: > >> So I started to try and re-create my steps for failure.. I _am_ able to >> duplicate the problem but I'm not able to figure out how. It seems to >> just come

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] processor pr0n

On Nov 11, 2015, at 10:01 , Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015, Dave Taht wrote: > >> http://solid-run.com/marvell-armada-family/clearfog/clearfog-specifications/ > > Armada 385 is still my favorite. > > Turris Omnia looks promising: > >

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] failing to find the declared victory in a current wifi router

Hi Joe, On Jul 8, 2015, at 20:37 , Joe Touch to...@isi.edu wrote: Hi, Matt, On 7/7/2015 11:19 AM, Matt Taggart wrote:... This message made me realize I hadn't posted the CC+SQM HOWTO I wrote, maybe it will be useful, https://we.riseup.net/lackof/openwrt FWIW, this is a big step in

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

Hi Fred, your results seem to indicate that cake is not active at all, as the latency under load is abysmal (a quick check is to look at the median in relation to the min and the 90% number, in your examples all of these are terrible). Could you please post the result of the following commands

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

On 10/07/15 19:46, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Hi Fred, your results seem to indicate that cake is not active at all, as the latency under load is abysmal (a quick check is to look at the median in relation to the min and the 90% number, in your examples all of these are terrible). Could

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

for testing and that means there might be some undiscovered bugs in there. no overhead allowance. I note. Well, that should work with the most recent version Best Regards Sebastian On 10/07/15 20:40, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Hi Fred, On Jul 10, 2015, at 21:34 , Fred

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

interval 100.0ms Pk delay 0us Av delay 0us Sp delay 0us pkts 1 way inds 0 way miss 1 way cols 0 bytes 90 drops0 marks0 On 10/07/15 20:50, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Hi Fred

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

Hi Jonathan, hi Fred, On Jul 10, 2015, at 21:18 , Jonathan Morton chromati...@gmail.com wrote: qdisc cake 8002: dev pppoe-wan root refcnt 2 bandwidth 850Kbit besteffort flows raw qdisc cake 8001: dev ifb4pppoe-wan root refcnt 2 bandwidth 11500Kbit besteffort flows atm overhead 40

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

/15 19:46, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Hi Fred, your results seem to indicate that cake is not active at all, as the latency under load is abysmal (a quick check is to look at the median in relation to the min and the 90% number, in your examples all of these are terrible). Could you please

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

Latency: (in msec, 152 pings, 0.00% packet loss) Min: 71.877 10pct: 76.197 Median: 85.051 Avg: 84.838 90pct: 92.105 Max: 109.600 On 10/07/15 21:12, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Hi Fred, On Jul 10, 2015, at 22:07 , Fred Stratton fredstrat...@imap.cc wrote: replaced

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] so much happens in the background nowadays

Hi Dave, On Dec 2, 2015, at 17:12 , Dave Taht wrote: > thx, all, for: > > https://github.com/tohojo/sqm-scripts/issues/19 Glad you like it ;) It seems we went a bit too far and will need to introduce a few more lines per invocation (currently we sort of declare

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] trying to make sense of what switch vendors say wrt buffer bloat

Hi, Maybe https://github.com/jwbensley/Etherate/blob/master/README.md could be of use here? Have not used it myself but it seems to at least partly match your requirements based on reading the readme... Best Regards Sebastian On June 10, 2016 11:45:30 PM GMT+02:00, dpr...@reed.com

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] more well funded attempts showing market demandfor better wifi

Hi Dave, On June 27, 2016 2:00:55 AM GMT+02:00, David Lang wrote: >I don't think anyone is trying to do simultanious receive of different >stations. >That is an incredibly difficult thing to do right. > >MU-MIMO is aimed at haivng the AP transmit to multiple stations at the

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Linksys wrt1900acs rrul traces ko

Hi John, On April 8, 2016 3:55:21 PM GMT+02:00, John Yates wrote: >Sebastian, > >Recently you wrote: > >In your case select Ethernet with overhead, and manually put 24 into >these >> packet overhead field, as the kernel already accounted for 14 of the >total >> of 38. >> >

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Making AQM harder...

Dear all, It looks like I forgot the link to the ms announcement: https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/networking/2016/07/18/announcing-new-transport-advancements-in-the-anniversary-update-for-windows-10-and-windows-server-2016/ On August 13, 2016 12:27:14 AM GMT+02:00, "Dave Täht"

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