Teach yourself

2005-09-09 Thread Parker, Kevin
I got hold of Ben Forta's ten minute book on SQL the other day. Is there something similar for REGEX that anyone can recommend. TIA!!! ++ Kevin Parker Web Services Consultant WorkCover Corporation p: 08 8233 2548 m: 0418 806 166 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.workcover.com ++

RE: Teach yourself

2005-09-09 Thread Adrian Lynch
Yup, and I'd recommend it. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0672325667/104-284-8175131 ?v=glance Ade -Original Message- From: Parker, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 September 2005 07:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: Teach yourself I got hold of Ben Forta's ten minute

RE: Teach yourself

2005-09-09 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Parker, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 2:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Teach yourself I got hold of Ben Forta's ten minute book on SQL the other day. Is there something similar for REGEX that anyone can recommend. How about

RE: Teach yourself

2005-09-09 Thread Parker, Kevin
You're right - it is logical but it didn't occur to me he wrote one :-) Thanks guys ++ Kevin Parker Web Services Consultant WorkCover Corporation p: 08 8233 2548 m: 0418 806 166 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.workcover.com ++ -Original Message- From: Jim Davis

RE: Teach yourself

2005-09-09 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Parker, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 2:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Teach yourself You're right - it is logical but it didn't occur to me he wrote one :-) Thanks guys No problem... sorry, but I just had to bust

RE: [CSS] vertical justify

2005-09-09 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
I don't see what you mean? The only thing I can see which doesn't line up if the compare image and checkbox. -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 September 2005 19:43 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [CSS] vertical justify Not quite. I know about that

Re: CFMX6.1 on WebLogic 7, weird web services call error

2005-09-09 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Thursday 08 September 2005 17:13, RADEMAKERS Tanguy wrote: Tom, I think you might be running into a limitation of the development version. Don't know about v7, but on v8 it's restricted to x number of IP addresses after which it refuses connections. I think for ws calls there's a furthur

Re: CFOBJECT type=java - server hangs

2005-09-09 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Thursday 08 September 2005 17:51, Dimo Michailov wrote: I am stuck on this issue and need help. If you remove the cfdump does it work OK ? -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a

Re: Is there a way to see webservice request generated by CFMX?

2005-09-09 Thread Raymond Camden
Point your test to a local WS. In the local WS, use the new getSOAPRequest or getSOAPRequestHeader functions. This assumes you have CFMX7 of course. On 9/8/05, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: have a lok at the tools at mindreef.netvery cool!! Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP

ColdFusion and MapQuest XML

2005-09-09 Thread Chad McCue
Is anybody integrating MapQuests Site Advantage with ColdFusion? I am having a hard time parsing through their XML. I am using this code to retrieve their XML. cfhttp method=get resolveurl=yes

RE: [CSS] vertical justify

2005-09-09 Thread Sandy Clark
CSS (neither 2 or 3) does not have a way of vertically justifying text. If you are using tables (which I believe you are from your use of the word cells) you might want to try td{vertical-align:center}. Since anything within a cell is considered part of the inline layout model. Sandra Clark

RE: CFMX6.1 on WebLogic 7, weird web services call error

2005-09-09 Thread RADEMAKERS Tanguy
Sorry, don't have desktop internet access (don't ask). We run wl8 here and i just remember a chat i once had with one of the java guys about how ws calls were restricted in the dev version above and beyond the five ip rule... On the one hand, makes some kind of sense, since you could stick your

Re: CFOBJECT type=java - server hangs

2005-09-09 Thread Dimo Michailov
No, CFDUMP doesn't affect it, hangs with or without it. On 9/9/05, Thomas Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 08 September 2005 17:51, Dimo Michailov wrote: I am stuck on this issue and need help. If you remove the cfdump does it work OK ? -- Tom Chiverton Advanced

Charting Alternatives

2005-09-09 Thread Rick Root
Okay, I've determined that CFCHART is not a good solution for my charting needs because I need to do a line chart but I need thin lines and cfchart doesn't give me any options to control the line thickness. Anyone have any recommendations for a solution - preferably inexpensive - that will

Re: Charting Alternatives

2005-09-09 Thread Rick Root
I should say that I'm going to try JFreeChart.. can't be any harder to implement than jasperReports was ;) But if anyone has any other suggestions, or has experience with jfreechart, feel free to speak up. Rick Rick Root wrote: Okay, I've determined that CFCHART is not a good solution for my

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RE: XML, XSD, XSL

2005-09-09 Thread Andy
I just don't see how using XML internally in an app is extra work compared to using individual attributes or another structure format. And I don't understand where there is any appreciable overhead. Of course, my ignorance could very well be bliss! Advantages that I see: 1. Data for a

Re: Charting Alternatives

2005-09-09 Thread Paul Hastings
Rick Root wrote: Anyone have any recommendations for a solution - preferably inexpensive - that will allow me to dynamically generate simple line graphs? i think kavacharts still has a free version (though it might now label your graphs as such). and if i recall correctly you can fiddle

Re: Charting Alternatives

2005-09-09 Thread Deanna Schneider
We've used the bline charting components successfully. They're a lot more customizable than the built-in charts, and play nicely with CF. http://www.blinex.com/ On 9/9/05, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should say that I'm going to try JFreeChart.. can't be any harder to implement

Strip ascii 128 and above

2005-09-09 Thread Kevin Bridges
Is there a simple way to strip out all characters above ascii 127 from a string? Thanks, Kevin Bridges ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting

Re: Charting Alternatives

2005-09-09 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Friday 09 September 2005 14:15, Rick Root wrote: Anyone have any recommendations for a solution - preferably inexpensive - that will allow me to dynamically generate simple line graphs? Something wrong with a table, and some gifs ? -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer

Re: Strip ascii 128 and above

2005-09-09 Thread Kevin Bridges
Ok I answered my own question: for (i = 128; i LTE 159; i = i + 1) text = Replace(text, Chr(i), , All); Kevin Bridges wrote: Is there a simple way to strip out all characters above ascii 127 from a string? ~| Discover

Re: Charting Alternatives

2005-09-09 Thread Rick Root
Thomas Chiverton wrote: On Friday 09 September 2005 14:15, Rick Root wrote: Anyone have any recommendations for a solution - preferably inexpensive - that will allow me to dynamically generate simple line graphs? Something wrong with a table, and some gifs ? Yes, that would a bar chart, not

Re: CFCHART X-Axis Labelling...

2005-09-09 Thread Tom McNeer
Dan, I'm not sure about this, but I think I've experienced what you're describing. And the issue seemed to be that the engine rendering the chart decided there wasn't enough room to display all the labels. If this sounds like what's happening for you, you might try making the chart wider, or

Re: Charting Alternatives

2005-09-09 Thread Tom McNeer
Rick, What version of CF? CFMX7 definitely has ways to control the line width. They're in the associated XML stylesheet, not in the attributes of the tag; but they're easily changed. -- Thanks, Tom Tom McNeer MediumCool http://www.mediumcool.com 530 Means St NW, Suite 110 Atlanta, GA 30318

RE: Charting Alternatives

2005-09-09 Thread Calvin Ward
I've not felt that process was exactly 'easily' accomplished. I've had weird and inconsistent results trying to leverage the xml stylesheet solutions... -Original Message- From: Tom McNeer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:15 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re:

Re: Charting Alternatives

2005-09-09 Thread Rick Root
Tom McNeer wrote: Rick, What version of CF? CFMX7 definitely has ways to control the line width. They're in the associated XML stylesheet, not in the attributes of the tag; but they're easily changed. Is that undocumented? the default.xml doesn't seem to have anything in it relating to

Re: CFCHART X-Axis Labelling...

2005-09-09 Thread Rick Root
Tom McNeer wrote: Dan, I'm not sure about this, but I think I've experienced what you're describing. And the issue seemed to be that the engine rendering the chart decided there wasn't enough room to display all the labels. If this sounds like what's happening for you, you might try

RE: XML, XSD, XSL

2005-09-09 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
I just don't see how using XML internally in an app is extra work compared to using individual attributes or another structure format. And I don't understand where there is any appreciable overhead. Of course, my ignorance could very well be bliss! Advantages that I see: 1.

RE: Charting Alternatives

2005-09-09 Thread Dave.Phillips
Rick, I found this blog posting that might help: http://cfchart.blogspot.com/2005/07/modifying-look-and-feel-of-charts-part.html Here's a quote: For changing the line width the attribute that is used is linewidth, in the element child tag of the xml document. Hope it helps! Dave

RE: CFCHART X-Axis Labelling...

2005-09-09 Thread Dan G. Switzer, II
Tom, I'm not sure about this, but I think I've experienced what you're describing. And the issue seemed to be that the engine rendering the chart decided there wasn't enough room to display all the labels. If this sounds like what's happening for you, you might try making the chart wider, or

RE: CFCHART X-Axis Labelling...

2005-09-09 Thread Dan G. Switzer, II
Rick, Make your chart 5000 pixels wide, that'll solve it ;) Unfortunately, that seems to be the fix. -Dan ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100%

Re: Simple CFC quesiton

2005-09-09 Thread Ken Ferguson
Holy Zarquon's singing fish! I absolutely LOVE it when we get into these discussions where the you should never... starts coming up. The only true generalization is that ALL GENERALIZATIONS ARE FALSE. It is not good to be in the habit of referring to the form scope in your CFC's. That does not

Simple Regular Expression?

2005-09-09 Thread Andy Mcshane
I am using the cfinput tag, validate=regular_expression and I am totally confusing myself on trying to work out what the pattern should equal. Basically I want the user to only be allowed to enter one of the following values 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50 They cannot enter anything else i.e.

Re: Charting Alternatives

2005-09-09 Thread Rick Root
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this blog posting that might help: http://cfchart.blogspot.com/2005/07/modifying-look-and-feel-of-charts-part.html That's cool and it works great, thanks! I just realized I was looking at the wrong version of the manual on livedocs, or I might've caused

RE: Charting Alternatives

2005-09-09 Thread Dave.Phillips
And I'm sure NO ONE has ever done THAT before... ;-) Dave -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Charting Alternatives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this blog posting that might help:

RE: XML, XSD, XSL

2005-09-09 Thread Andy
First, I think that your apps are way more sophisticated then mine. All I have is a very basic controller (I am using Application.cfc in this role), a presentation layer and BusinessObjects (basic cfc's like Invoice, Order, Customer, Address, Person). I don't have a factory (although I could

RE: Simple CFC quesiton

2005-09-09 Thread Dave Watts
You should never* be referring to the form scope in a CFC. ... * blah blah blah, never is never accurate, there are always exceptions. Holy Zarquon's singing fish! I absolutely LOVE it when we get into these discussions where the you should never... starts coming up. The only

RE: Simple Regular Expression?

2005-09-09 Thread Ben Forta
In other words, you want 1 or 2 characters. If two characters you want 1-4 followed by a 0 or a 5, and if one character you want 0 or 5 followed by a space. So try: ([1-5][05])|(0 )|(5 ) -Original Message- From: Andy Mcshane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09,

RE: Simple Regular Expression?

2005-09-09 Thread Damien McKenna
-Original Message- From: Andy Mcshane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Basically I want the user to only be allowed to enter one of the following values 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50 They cannot enter anything else i.e. 55 You might consider making them into a list and using another

Re: Simple CFC quesiton

2005-09-09 Thread Brian Kotek
Holy Zarquon's singing fish! I absolutely LOVE it when people completely miss the intent of the author, the footnote, and the point! On 9/9/05, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holy Zarquon's singing fish! I absolutely LOVE it when we get into these discussions where the you should

RE: Simple Regular Expression?

2005-09-09 Thread Ben Forta
Oops, that would also allow 55. Try this, it allows digits 1-4 followed by a 0 or a 5 (that takes care of 10-45), as well as 50 0 and 5: ([1-4][05])|(50)|(0)|(5) -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:06 AM To: CF-Talk

RE: Simple CFC quesiton

2005-09-09 Thread Dave.Phillips
Who the heck is Zarquon? Dave -Original Message- From: Brian Kotek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Simple CFC quesiton Holy Zarquon's singing fish! I absolutely LOVE it when people completely miss the intent of the author,

RE: Simple Regular Expression?

2005-09-09 Thread Andy McShane
Thanks for the reply Ben, your code makes it a bit more understandable as to how to format an expression. The expression that you given me almost works but does still allow 55 to be entered. -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 September 2005 16:17 To:

Re: Simple CFC quesiton

2005-09-09 Thread Brian Kotek
(Original poster was making a Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy reference.) On 9/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who the heck is Zarquon? Dave -Original Message- From: Brian Kotek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:14 AM To: CF-Talk

RE: Simple CFC quesiton

2005-09-09 Thread Dave.Phillips
Oh yeah. Now I remember. ;-) Dave -Original Message- From: Brian Kotek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Simple CFC quesiton (Original poster was making a Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy reference.)

Re: Teach yourself

2005-09-09 Thread Claude Schneegans
How about Teach Yourself Regular Expressions in 10 Minutes by Ben Forta? Right, and while you're teaching yourself, you can test your skill on the REwizard: http://www.contentbox.com/claude/REwizard/index.cfm?p=hf -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See

CFLocation LF and 7

2005-09-09 Thread JediHomer
Hi, We have an app that runs fine on good old MX6.1. Basically a confirmation email is sent out to a user with a click here to update your details. This link has an ID that's encrypted with CF's Encrypt, the result of this is then URLEncoded. All works fine until we upgraded the server to 7.

Re: Simple CFC quesiton

2005-09-09 Thread Ken Ferguson
Yeah, this is actually the post I was *trying* to reply to. I just hit reply on the latest one at the time... -- You should never refer to the FORM scope from within a component. Always refers to #ARGUMENTS.imageName#. -Adam - Dave Watts wrote: You should never*

Re: Simple Regular Expression?

2005-09-09 Thread Ben Doom
Try anchoring it so that it has to match the whole string: ^([1-4][05])|(50)|(0)|(5)$ --Ben not that Ben Doom Andy McShane wrote: Thanks for the reply Ben, your code makes it a bit more understandable as to how to format an expression. The expression that you given me almost works but does

Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Rick Faircloth
Hi, all... I've always used tables to display my data from queries. Now, I've begun to be interested more in using CSS and Layers. The first question I have is how would one display data from queries if not by using the top row of a table as the column headers and then looping through the

RE: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Matthew Small
Don't try it... you have a perfectly good system, no reason to throw it away. Matthew Small -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 12:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying

Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Claude Schneegans
I've always used tables to display my data from queries. Now, I've begun to be interested more in using CSS and Layers. What's wrong with tables? -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send

Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Charlie Griefer
one thing to bear in mind is that tables are NOT inherently evil. even in a CSS world, they serve a purpose (to display tabular data). prior shortcomings in browsers meant that they were used for layout, which is what you want to move away from when you move towards CSS. Since you mention

Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Don't try it... you have a perfectly good system, no reason to throw it away. Matthew Small welll nothing to gain but faster rendering and greater flexibility in display ;-) .and my CSS guru buddy has shown me that it is possible to go tableless ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP

Re: [OT] transparent source control

2005-09-09 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
On 9/8/05, Anthony Prato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am pretty set on subversion already, my problem's been getting the developers to break their bad habits. The process here seems to be someone talks about a bug or something they don't like. A programmer jumps on it with very little planning

RE: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 12:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data? Hi, all... I've always used tables to display my data from queries. Now,

RE: cf7 sql server integrated security

2005-09-09 Thread Russ
So is nobody using this configuration? -Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 6:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: cf7 sql server integrated security I am trying to connect to sql server using integrated security. so both my cf and sql servers

Help! Is there any way to log all database query times to a log?

2005-09-09 Thread Smith, Ed
Hi all, We're trying to debug a performance problem that has cropped up recently. What happens is that all threads (that use database connections) hang for a period of time. Then, some query passes through the system with a long query time, and there rest of the held up processes blow through.

RE: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Damien McKenna
The problem with tables is regards to using them for layout. If you've got tabular data just use a table :) -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include stdjoke.h

RE: Help! Is there any way to log all database query times to a log?

2005-09-09 Thread Damien McKenna
Most databases have a system for query logging, rtfm :) -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include stdjoke.h ~| Find out how CFTicket can

RE: cf7 sql server integrated security

2005-09-09 Thread Mark A Kruger
Russ, Sorry ... on cfmx it's going to be a real hack if it's possible at all :) -Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cf7 sql server integrated security So is nobody using this configuration?

RE: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Matthew Small
But you'll lose your mind doing it. :-) Matthew Small Web Developer American City Business Journals 704-973-1045 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 12:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Can CSS and Layers

deselect grid item in flash form

2005-09-09 Thread Ida Chen
Is there any way to deselect an item in cfgrid (flash form) without holding ctrl key? For example, is there anyway to bind a DESELECT button to the flash grid? Thanks. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's

Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread David Livingston
One of the things I always hear developers talking about is separating the layout/design/presentation from the data/code. CSS is really great way to do that. All you have to do is present very simple html code and CSS can do the rest. Here is a project that I am developing right now that we

Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Charlie Griefer
On 9/9/05, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't try it... you have a perfectly good system, no reason to throw it away. Matthew Small welll nothing to gain but faster rendering and greater flexibility in display ;-) .and my CSS guru buddy has shown me that it is

Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Bryan Stevenson
But you'll lose your mind doing it. :-) Matthew Small ahhhbut that happened long ago ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web:

RE: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Rick Faircloth
That's what I'm wondering...I've got a system, while not flawless, works very well...and I've learned a lot of tricks and tweaks to working with tables. I work with tables primarily for design, but apply styles to the tables and cells... Rick -Original Message- From: Matthew Small

RE: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Rick Faircloth
Nothing wrong with them...I was just wondering if CSS and Layers was somehow superior and preferable to working with tables...looking for input from designers / developers with more CSS and Layers experience than I have before bothering with learning a new way to do things. Rick -Original

Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Never said it wasn't possible. The question is, why would you want to if you're displaying tabular data? -- Charlie Griefer I'll type it slower this time for you Charlie ;-) welll nothing to gain but faster rendering and greater flexibility in display ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP

RE: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Rick Faircloth
Yes, tables do make sense for tabular data display...it's intuitive for me to think in terms of query rows and table rows...I just wondered if the CSS and Layers approach had some superior way of working with not just general design, but, especially in displaying dynamic data... Rick

RE: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Rick Faircloth
Without perstering you for too much detail...how does CSS and Layers display query data without using tables? Are div's expandable like tables? Do you have to still use tables within div's? I know there's a lot I don't understand...I just thought I'd ask a few probing questions before spending

RE: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Rick Faircloth
Tables aren't evil. Are you sure? I've had some evil things happen when working with tables before...and I'm *certain* they were to blame and not me! ;o) Rick -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 12:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject:

Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Robert Munn
Keep in mind that you can apply CSS and layers in conjunction with tables. In the case of displaying dynamic data, whether you use a table or not depends on the kind of data being displayed. As an example, I've been playing with the design of a webmail client I built. You can get the current

SOT: Fusebox 4.1 specification format?

2005-09-09 Thread Michael Traher
Got a nice big project coming up. We are current gathering requirements. Part of this process is the building of an HTML wireframe of the site to determine look and flow. I need to pull together the requirements and the wireframe so that it can be distributed to developers in a consistent

RE: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Rick Faircloth
Thanks for the insight and pointers, David. I'll definitely check out your project. Rick -Original Message- From: David Livingston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 12:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying

Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Bryan Stevenson
I'm not the CSS gurubut I'll imaprt what wisdom I've gleanded Are div's expandable like tables? Do you have to still use tables within div's? AFAIK if you don't apply a height or width they will expand/collapse based on what's in them I believe that each cell in a table is

RE: Simple Regular Expression?

2005-09-09 Thread Dawson, Michael
I'm not sure if someone already answered this, but you should anchor the start and end of the strings. This pattern might do it, but it's not tested: ^(0|5|10|15|20|25|30|35|40|45|50)$ M!ke I am using the cfinput tag, validate=regular_expression and I am totally confusing myself on trying

Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Deanna Schneider
You should be aware that when you're talking about layers you're not really referring to an actual CSS thingy. That's Dreamweaver's way of explaining CSS in a visual environment. There's no such thing as a layer really - just divs and other markup that's positioned via CSS. There are

Re: Help! Is there any way to log all database query times to a log?

2005-09-09 Thread Douglas Knudsen
this doesn't log JDBC info though, eh? seefusion at seefusion.org has somethign that may help. If you are using a JRun based DSN, you could log some data for those, but not CF DSNs. DK On 9/9/05, Damien McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most databases have a system for query logging, rtfm :)

RE: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Rick Faircloth
Thanks for the input, Robert...I'll check out your work. Rick -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 1:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data? Keep in mind that you

Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Charlie Griefer
On 9/9/05, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never said it wasn't possible. The question is, why would you want to if you're displaying tabular data? -- Charlie Griefer I'll type it slower this time for you Charlie ;-) welll nothing to gain but faster rendering and

RE: Directory permissions (ADSI ??) and CFMX7

2005-09-09 Thread Dawson, Michael
Google: CACLS and setowner.exe You might be able to use these with CFEXECUTE, but you may have to write a COM object as well. I had some code that worked, until we upgraded from W2k to W2k3. Then, it all stopped working. I haven't had time to look closely into it why it broke. M!ke

cfFile - uploading safely

2005-09-09 Thread daniel kessler
I have a database of contracts. I want the people entering the information to be able to upload files to the website and the name of the file to the database. I have that, but I'm caught on the accept attribute. I want them to be able to upload most text oriented types of files (txt,

Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Bryan Stevenson
From: Deanna Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:22 AM Subject: Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data? You should be aware that when you're talking about layers you're not really referring

RE: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Rick Faircloth
Thanks Bryan...if I pursue this and develop some usable techniques I'll definitely pass them on. I guess I'm just interested, too, in learning something new...trying to break out of a design rut, but have to make sure that the design techniques accommodate dyamic data...perhaps pure CSS and

Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Bryan Stevenson
sorry...still too fast. come again? :) -- Charlie Griefer LOL! Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com

RE: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Rick Faircloth
Thanks for the advice, Deanna. Got to get to know those div's...and I really couldn't see, at lease initially, how CSS could make displaying tabular data earier than displaying it in a tabular design, i.e., tables... The reuse aspect of sites has always been something I've been interested in

RE: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Rick Faircloth
Maybe you just need to read it faster, Charlie... ;o) Rick -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 1:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data? On 9/9/05, Bryan

Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Deanna Schneider
Okay, yah, that's true. I stand corrected. But, I still think it sounds like he's using the DW layer mumbo jumbo. But, I could be totally wrong. As we said in our family , 10 seconds (as in please rewind 10 seconds and then go on with your regularly scheduled programming). On 9/9/05, Bryan

Re: SOT: Fusebox 4.1 specification format?

2005-09-09 Thread Brian Kotek
Fusebuilder (http://www.fusebuilder.net/) will make it easy to create a wireframe, then a prototype from the wireframe, then architect the app based on the prototype and generate fusedocs for you. It is well worth $95 if you have a large project to build and will save you an absurd amount of time.

RE: Fusebox 4.1 specification format?

2005-09-09 Thread Damien McKenna
-Original Message- From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't been a fusedocs fan but I'm willing to be persuaded :-) or does anyone have an alternative template for this kind of specification? Fusebuilder.net? -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL

Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Rick Root
Rick, Are you asking us how to pound in a nail without using a hammer? I see from the numerous responses that I've missed a holy war. Tables are for tabular data. There is no better way to display tabular data than using a table. Even a CSS guru will tell you that. Alternatively, you could

RE: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Mark A Kruger
Actually as wars go on this list this one is pretty tame :) I have yet to hear anyone's mother mentioned. -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 1:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for

Re: cfFile - uploading safely

2005-09-09 Thread Rick Root
daniel kessler wrote: I have a database of contracts. I want the people entering the information to be able to upload files to the website and the name of the file to the database. I have that, but I'm caught on the accept attribute. I want them to be able to upload most text oriented

RE: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Rick Faircloth
Nah...I've seen true Holy Wars on this list...this has been a civil, informative exchange. I'm seeing that a combination of CSS for design and tables for data may be a good way to proceed in further development... I'll have to start some experimenting. Rick -Original Message- From:

RE: cfFile - uploading safely

2005-09-09 Thread Tangorre, Michael
From: daniel kessler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] So, how would I structure an accept so that it does this? Also, which other types of files should I exclude? If it's an include-only list then I don't have to exclude but I don't know which file types to enter ahead of time because I may

Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Mike Soultanian
Yeah, CSS is by far the most superior method to giving yourself the biggest headache ever imaginable. I've been doing A LOT of css research and I am still going to use a large table for general layout and then divs within that. Don't get me wrong, css for styling is great, it just sucks for

Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Charlie Griefer
On 9/9/05, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) Tables are for tabular data. There is no better way to display tabular data than using a table. Even a CSS guru will tell you that. (snip) easy there...when i said that, i was accused of being a slow reader :D -- Charlie Griefer

Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data?

2005-09-09 Thread Mike Soultanian
You just gotta be very careful if you're ever planning on building a site that is ADA compliant (which you should try to do anyways). Tweaked table layouts are very difficult for screen readers to handle so that's a big push for CSS websites. However, you still can build sites that are ADA

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