Hello,
There is some questions regarding clustering I've never found a clear /
consistent answer on.
I hope someone can give me the ultimate answers on my questions..
I've tried to generalize a bit to broaden the scope for this,
Software
Win2003/2008 32/64 bit - IIS6/IIS7 - CF7/8/9
We thought about trying that but yesterday, I noticed that our template
caches were all disabled. :-/
.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com
-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com]
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 9:40 PM
To:
... thought about trying because you mentioned it before :-)
.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com
-Original Message-
From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 7:19 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Linkage Error -
Another attempt we made to get around it (since we were SURE it was cache
related) was to convert our object CFC to a java class.
So some background for those who might not have followed the old thread:
We have an object cfc. It is nothing but a few CFPROPERTY tags.
This would be an example of
Goal:
One rock stable high performance ColdFusion cluster with session replication
and quick
failover
Is there a specific requirement for session replication? Because you
might get generally better results if you just use sticky sessions.
That buys you load balancing, but not complete
Works. A. treat.
Thank you, and thanks Mark Mandel.
Stefan
On 24 Jan 2011, at 14:42, Leigh wrote:
But the fact that the two jars seem to conflict with one
another throws a real spanner into the works... Is there any
way I could separate them and have both present in CF?
Try using
Goal:
One rock stable high performance ColdFusion cluster with session
replication and quick failover
Is there a specific requirement for session replication? Because you might get
generally better results if you just use sticky sessions.
That buys you load balancing, but not complete
Something seems wonky with cfpdf.
I've looked at JPedal for my PDF to image conversion because cfpdf
action=thumbnail would produce images that were not at 1:1 scale with the
original PDF, instead they were smaller. When I open the PDF in Acrobat at 100%
and measure via an on screen ruler I
The reality is that Railo and Open BlueDragon are not growing the market for
CFML. No one is *switching to* CFML from PHP, .NET, Ruby, or Java because of
the OSS engines. To the extent that this might happen, it is an
infinitesimally small number of projects. If any of the OSS engines have
data
I agree with Dave on this one: set sticky sessions on the LB, and let each
web server stand independently so there are no single failure points. If
you need true failover, refactor the apps to use client vars and store them
in a database for clean 'session' replication across the web
If anyone is considering working for this company, please contact me.
I just had an... interesting experience with them.
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Hmm, looking at this more closely, if I 'Get info' on a PDF in the OSX Finder I
see the same small dimensions as the ones that CF reports. But the 100% view in
Acrobat is clearly the authored size, more or less an A4 page on screen. Maybe
this is some specific 'feature' of the PDF format?
I agree also.
I should have left that one out of it..
It seems to have hidden the real question which is: what is the 100% correct
way to create a cluster as this.
Thanks,
Helge
-Original Message-
From: Jason Fisher [mailto:ja...@wanax.com]
Subject: Re: Clustering ColdFusion - some
I hope Mike Brunt is still on this list and will jump in on this
because he has a lot of experience with clustering JRun and has a lot
to say about session replication and other options (basically he
agrees with Dave :)
My experience with session replication on JRun was that replication
could
Hi Bobby,
I don't have TRUSTED cache enabled either. If you look in the cfclasses
directory, are there any class files being written to disk there? If so,
clearing the ones that correspond to your complex type CFC's does resolve
the problem temporarily. I wish Adobe would fix this one...
Brook
Doh! I didn't look in there. Guess I had template cache on the brain. I'll
check that out now.
And yes, I wish this would get fixed! I also wish you could do soemthing
like returntype=java:com.soemthing.myclass in a CFC and use java classes
as the returntype. I really think if I was able to use
I did find some classes in cfclasses that were related to my cfc but
clearing the template cache as you mentioned doesn't touch them.
Did you put something else together to keep them cleared out of there?
I can think of a simple cfexecute command to handle it but... yuck!
Didn't I sent you that code sample that cleans out the relative files? It
*does* work for me. Note, it clears out the files from the cfclasses
directory, not the cfc-skeletons directory. I can resend that code if you
need it.
Brooik
-Original Message-
From: Bobby Hartsfield
You did send some code you were using to manually clear the trustedCache but
all that I noticed it doing was logging in, building a list of files, and
passing them to the clearTrustedCache() method of admin.api.runtime
Running the clearTrsutedCache() method (or clicking the Clear Template Cache
Agreed.
Back in the day we did actually need sessions to hold across servers, but
we went with the client-vars-in-the-DB to do it. Don't know if AOL still
does this, but back in 2004 when many end users (B2C) were still using AOL
as their ISP, AOL had a habit of changing a user's IP every 3
Session replication is a bear and difficult to support. I avoid it when
possible.
-mark
Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
(402) 408-3733 ext 105
Skype: markakruger
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
www.necfug.com
-Original Message-
From: Helge Hetland [mailto:hetl...@website.no]
Hi, I'm trying to implement custom tags into a website I'm working with, but
I'm not having much success with one in particular, cf_location.
I'm using the 2.0.1 hosted on Adobe's website. The CF server I'm running is
CF7, and I'm using a designated sub directory listed in the coldfusion admin
Why not use cflocation /
http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=ColdFusion_Documentationfile=0284.htm#wp1100753
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Eric Vineyard eric.viney...@hotmail.comwrote:
Hi, I'm trying to implement custom tags
Why not use cflocation /
http://livedocs.adobe.
com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.
htm?context=ColdFusion_Documentationfile=0284.htm#wp1100753
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Eric Vineyard eric.vineyard@hotmail.
comwrote:
Hi, I'm trying to implement
What is in the location custom tag? It doesn't sound like it is an issue
with the installation of the tag or you would get an error saying it
couldn't find it.
You also don't happen to have a file called location.cfm in the calling
directory (or its' parent directories) do you?
If so, maybe it
Then use addToken=false
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
-Original Message-
From: Eric Vineyard [mailto:eric.viney...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 7:45 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Why not use cflocation /
I know, I thought that aswell. But for me, regardless of if the trusted
cache option is on in the cfadmin, it does clear the files from cfclasses
and it does temporarily resolve the problem. Its still a big problem
though...
Brook
-Original Message-
From: Bobby Hartsfield
Hey folks,
I have a weird CFDIV problem.
Windows server. CF8. Using many YUI and Google UI components as well as CFDIV.
Two domains, each in its own IIS instance and IP number (for SSL reasons) but
both go to the same root folder.
CFDIV tags work on site1, but not site2.
If I add a http
Check to see if there is another file named CF_Location in the
customs tag directory or in the directory your template is in that is
calling the tag
At 03:34 PM 1/25/2011, you wrote:
Hi, I'm trying to implement custom tags into a website I'm working
with, but I'm not having much success with
Weird, I wonder why it doesn't clear the cfclasses for me...
And yes, this is definitely a hacked solution until it gets fixed (if it
ever does)... it is still an issue in CF9.
.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com
-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies
um... then why not use:
cflocation addtoken=no /
addtoken=no doesn't add the unnecessary cftoken
Because the website that I'm working with has thousands of
cflocation's. My entire reason for using cf_location was so that I
wouldn't have the annoying, and highly unneccessary cftoken in my
You don't want to have to find and replace all cflocation tags to add the
addtoken attribute, but you are willing to find and reaplace cflocation with
cf_location?
Seems like the same amount of work to me.
.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com
-Original
Two domains, each in its own IIS instance and IP number (for SSL reasons) but
both go to the same root folder.
CFDIV tags work on site1, but not site2.
You need two virtual directories, to resolve /CFIDE.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
Sounds like a discrepancy in the web server config between the sites.
If you have firebug, I would imagine it will report issues finding some of
the needed files you see in the source.
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Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com
-Original Message-
From:
It's much easier to just simply use a custom tag that defaults to no than
to Find and Replace every single tag with addToken=no.
It's not more difficult to replace all occurrences of 'CFLOCATION' by
'CFLOCATION addToken=no'
than by 'CF_LOCATION'
You're welcome :o)
Mark
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Stefan Richter ste...@flashcomguru.comwrote:
Works. A. treat.
Thank you, and thanks Mark Mandel.
Stefan
On 24 Jan 2011, at 14:42, Leigh wrote:
But the fact that the two jars seem to conflict with one
another throws a
total newbie!
I've installed Coldfusion 9 in my iMac, ColdFusionLauncher indicates that it is
running. I've create a very simple Hello html with CF tags and a #variable#,
but the output does not evaluate the variable, it just prints out #variable#.
I'm taking an on-line course the briefly
Will do,
I'll never try to setup session replication again, I'll never try to setup
session replication agai... :)
But, the below described procedure - it's 100% accurate for setting up a
cluster?
(not ticking of the replicate sessions this time.. :))
--
JRun
Please post the code you are trying to run - this will help us determine if
there is a code or setup issue.
Thank You,
Wil Genovese
Sr. Web Application Developer/
Systems Administrator
Wil Genovese Consulting
wilg...@trunkful.com
www.trunkful.com
On Jan 25, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Fred Weaver
Couple things:
- make sure the page has a .cfm extension
- make sure you have cfoutput tags around the variable
If you have both those things, then further code example/environment setup
information is necessary.
-- Josh
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Fred Weaver f...@fredweaver.biz wrote:
And people wonder why ColdFusion gets a bad name!!
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
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...because noobs aren't yet find-and-replace ninjas? Doubt it.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote:
And people wonder why ColdFusion gets a bad name!!
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
Yet he planned to replace all cflocation with cf_location, didn't he?
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
-Original Message-
From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:41 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Don't you just love how developers like Bobby and Andrew assume everybody
should follow the expert way. Its developers like this that give Coldfusion
the bad name.
Yet he planned to replace all cflocation with cf_location, didn't he?
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
It has nothing to do with being expert or not, but common sense.
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
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From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:38 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Yes. My point: surely noobs ask noob-y questions on all web app dev lang
boards since the beginning of web app dev lang boards. Regardless of
quantity my web app dev lang is dying FUD.
We'll be judged by how we treat our noobs. :-)
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Andrew Scott
Its amazing how fast the experts forget they were beginners at one time. It
has everything with being a so called expert. You could have just answered
his question in a more professional manner.
On Jan 25, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Andrew Scott wrote:
It has nothing to do with being expert or
Agreed. I can't believe how many of these so called experts are on here
claiming to be helping people, but they are probably themselves the most
worthless coders you will ever find. You know sometimes one has to be humble
to see the light.
On Jan 25, 2011, at 6:48 PM, John M Bliss wrote:
I actually did answer it, if you look hard enough.
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
-Original Message-
From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:49 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Its amazing
Your not just getting it. The sad part is you never will. Sure you answered
it, but takes a while for a person to see that after all the other stuff lol.
On Jan 25, 2011, at 6:51 PM, Andrew Scott wrote:
I actually did answer it, if you look hard enough.
Regards,
Andrew Scott
Not exactly. OP wrote, ...It's much easier to just simply use a custom tag
that defaults to no than to Find and Replace every single tag with
addToken=no... (AKA, the crux of his problem/misunderstanding.)
You replied, Then use addToken=false
That fails to address OP's question. Instead, it
Good point. See I even learned from this. You don't have to be a noob to
actually learn or refresh the mind once in a while.
On Jan 25, 2011, at 7:02 PM, John M Bliss wrote:
Not exactly. OP wrote, ...It's much easier to just simply use a custom tag
that defaults to no than to Find and
Ok Michael seeing as you are being the way you are.
My comment had a double meaning behind it, and the point is that if this guy
is thinking in this manner I would actually hate to see what the rest of the
Application is like. It is a known fact that if that guy ever leaves, a new
guy will come
The problem with us experts sometimes is that we do forget the daft things
that noobs do and common sense comes with experience.
However what does get my goat is an unwillingness to RTFM or google search.
There is a HUGE resource of documentation and tutorials out there, and
sometimes no matter
Despite Andrews lack of partience he is however correct.
Replacing cflocation with cflocation addtoken=false would be much
better and is of course almost as easy to do.If the URL is different in
every cflocation then a REGEX will be required, bit there are some regex
gurus on here who can help
Gotta say Andrew and Russ you two take the cake. Who cares now if your right?
All meaning has been lost. Caution to anybody that is new to ColdFusion. You
will sometimes encounter developers who give double meaning and treat you with
a lack of respect.
Arrogance. Complete Egos at work
Michael, I will say it again it has nothing to do with being a noob or even
an expert. It boils down to common sense, we have a guy at work who has
never programmed in his life, and he has been in the role for about 6
months. But the moment he started, he showed a lot of common sense in his
I follow. I'm an expert (14 or so years) and I like to think I Google first
and ask questions later.
Having said that, cf-talk is (generally) comprised of people with such a
high D-18 roll of:
- intelligence
- wisdom
- charisma
...that it's easy to understand why people of all experience
Your not just getting it and I don't think you every will. You come off as
sounding like a jerk plain and simple, so who cares if your right.
On Jan 25, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Andrew Scott wrote:
Michael, I will say it again it has nothing to do with being a noob or even
an expert. It boils
John,
You hit it right on the button. I would dare say your the true expert here.
Mike
On Jan 25, 2011, at 7:23 PM, John M Bliss wrote:
I follow. I'm an expert (14 or so years) and I like to think I Google first
and ask questions later.
Having said that, cf-talk is (generally)
Btw if you read the guys comment, he also clearly stated he is no noob
aswell, or did you not read that?
He wrote, I don't really consider myself to be a novice with CF, but I'm
also not an expert. Based on that statement and the nature of his
question, I had him estimated at a 3 on the noob -
Hi folks -
I am scouring the web trying to find examples or a discussion on whether or not
Coldfusion 9 can actually write to an existing PDF.
I have a pre-made PDF form, and I just want to write data to different cells.
I have Acrobat so I can define the text boxes, but now I am trying to
My thoughts exactly. Figured maybe I was missing something. lol
Yet he planned to replace all cflocation with cf_location, didn't he?
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
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Oh come now Michael. That's not the least bit fair. Most of us experts are
extremely helpful. In fact I'd say pound for pound we're some of the most
helpful. True Andrew was a little off the cuff, but I think he's right in
his jaded comments. Five taggers really haven't done much for the
Yeah maybe.
The one thing I will add here, and even us experts tend to do it as well,
but common sense does eventually kick in. And that is that we all tend to
over complicate the problem.
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
-Original Message-
From: John M Bliss
Good God! Having flashbacks from high school with this thread! LOL
Your not just getting it and I don't think you every will. You come
off as sounding like a jerk plain and simple, so who cares if your
right.
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+1 for the rpg reference... nerd.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:23 PM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com wrote:
I follow. I'm an expert (14 or so years) and I like to think I Google
first
and ask questions later.
Having said that, cf-talk is (generally) comprised of people with such a
high
STOP THE INSANITY - the horse is dead quit whipping it.. PLEASE!!
Wil Genovese
One man with courage makes a majority.
-Andrew Jackson
A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.
On Jan 25, 2011, at 6:33 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
+1 for the rpg reference... nerd.
You'll want to create an alias to the images folder between sites.
What web server are you using?
Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!
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From: fun and learning funandlrnn...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Jan 24, 2011 20:02
Subject: Coldfusion webroot and
nerd.
Guilty. :-)
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote:
+1 for the rpg reference... nerd.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:23 PM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com
wrote:
I follow. I'm an expert (14 or so years) and I like to think I Google
first
and
I'm reply to my own post.
It looks like CFPDFFORM will be the answer.
I will investigate this and see what I come up with.
Doug
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Really? I don't exactly see any of you encouraging people to learn the
language. Instead you berate them with your very arrogance and in fact does
more damage than help. Also, my posts have nothing to do with this, even
though a few of these very same posters have used their professional
You can also look into DDX as that has a lot more power than the standard
PDF tags does.
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
-Original Message-
From: Doug Ford [mailto:doug.e.f...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 11:37 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Is it
now was that so hard?
On Jan 25, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Andrew Scott wrote:
You can also look into DDX as that has a lot more power than the standard
PDF tags does.
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
-Original Message-
From: Doug Ford
You don't need to 'scour the web' to find that answer, just read the docs.
The answer is yes, you can use CF to populate a PDF form.
http://www.cfquickdocs.com/cf8/#cfpdfform
Brook
-Original Message-
From: Doug Ford [mailto:doug.e.f...@gmail.com]
Sent: January-25-11 4:21 PM
To:
Michael I am going to ask you nicely, to stop your bullshit.
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
-Original Message-
From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 11:49 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Is it Possible: CFPDF or PDFs
Ok write, I must admit I took that as actually add new pages not to populate
forms. But yeah if you need to add pages look at DDX.
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011
Hi Folks
I have several large forms connected to mySql tables.
I use cfqueryparam when querying and inserting data from the form after it has
been validated for content that I need (no blank fields etc.)
I created the following validation to check for scripts etc being injected.
Is there
I am wondering if it would be cheaper for you to take a look at
http://www.petefreitag.com/item/728.cfm it might cost you more trying to
protect in time coding and maintenance.
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
-Original Message-
From: Rob Voyle
Michael, perhaps you need to look a bit harder before making such
statements, I have personally spent 10 years running www.cfmldeveloper.com,
a CF community providing free cf developer hosting to encourage and help
people learn CF.
I'm afraid the only one attacking and berating here is yourself,
With all due respect Michael I think you are speaking out of turn here. How
would you (in Atlanta) have any idea what I (near Toronto) have been doing
to encourage people to learn CF? On this list I offer as much help as I have
time or advice for. Locally I've tried since the 90's to encourage
The host header is what is sent to server and contains the domain name being
requested.
This is then used to determine which website to display.
In IIS you simply enter the domain name in the bindings section along with
the IP address you want to use for the site.
If you have multiple domains for
Please. So what? Somebody who was actually helping wouldnt feel the need
for such self promotion. Face it your only doimg it to gloss the resume
On Jan 25, 2011 8:04 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:
Michael, perhaps you need to look a bit harder before making such
statements, I
Well done on your self promotion as a Jerk Michael, you are doing an
absolutely sterling job and you definitely deserve everything you get in
recognition of your gr8 talent.
three cheers for Michael.
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.comwrote:
Please. So
Wow. Sounds like the expert is taking it personally. Good to know you like
to resort to personal attacks like this. Real class
On Jan 25, 2011 8:24 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:
Well done on your self promotion as a Jerk Michael, you are doing an
absolutely sterling job and
Seriously Michael I don't know you, but I think you've blown this whole thing
out of proportion. Why not take the high road and just give it a rest?
I suffer from Last word syndrome at times, maybe that's what we're dealing with
here. We shall see. :)
Wow. Sounds like the expert is taking
Kelly, I am not the one resorting to personal attacks and this is a real big
problem with expert programmers attacking new people to the profession but
yet claim to help them. Russ claims to help but attacks his peers by
calling them a jerk. Real professional.
On Jan 25, 2011 8:35 PM, Kelly
Michael, I don't know if you suffer from Aspeger's or Higher Functioning
Autism as it is known over there.
But I think you really need to adhere to what people are saying, back off
calm down and have a good think about it later.
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
Erm, read your own posts.
You are the one attacking and insulting everyone, you called everyone a
jerk, and then got all upset when it was said right back you.
You make baseless claims about people contributing nothing, then throw out
even more insults when you are proved wrong.
The only one
Ah once again with the name calling. Real professional andrew. I am
really ashamed that you call yourself a developer. Like I said someone who
really helps doesnt self promote
On Jan 25, 2011 8:43 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote:
Michael, I don't know if you suffer from
Just cant let it go can you. Real professional.
On Jan 25, 2011 8:47 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:
Erm, read your own posts.
You are the one attacking and insulting everyone, you called everyone a
jerk, and then got all upset when it was said right back you.
You make
ok that's enough now, you are now added to my spam filter, so feel free to
get the last word in as I wont see it.
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:49 AM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.comwrote:
Just cant let it go can you. Real professional.
On Jan 25, 2011 8:47 PM, Russ Michaels
Wow how mature and professional. Spam filter. Guess I was right lmao
On Jan 25, 2011 8:51 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:
ok that's enough now, you are now added to my spam filter, so feel free to
get the last word in as I wont see it.
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:49 AM, Michael
Thoughts about cf builder. Do you use it? Or do you use cf eclipse or another
alternative? Not sure if I am going to get it so I like to hear some thoughts
on it.
Thanks
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Curious to see what everybody's favorite coldfusion host is also? Hostek?
CrystalTech? DailyRazor?
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You know one of the things that I have always loved about this list is
that anyone could ask a question no matter how NOOBISH and no one would
treat them with any ill will. The people would always gently move them
to the proper way of doing things and everyone would learn.
I apologize that this
That fails to address OP's question. Instead, it begs his question...
I hate to get into this, but ...
I don't think you're using beg the question correctly. When you beg
the question, you're assuming the answer. Whatever Andrew's doing, I
don't think it's that.
I can only hope for the same thing too.
On Jan 25, 2011 9:22 PM, DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) sd1...@att.com
wrote:
You know one of the things that I have always loved about this list is
that anyone could ask a question no matter how NOOBISH and no one would
treat them with any ill will.
Wow that's kind of a loaded question, and potential flame bait.
CFB is expensive because it's in line with other products from Adobe. They
don't make cheap software, they don't make bad software. They do a good job
and they support it really well. CFEclipse was created on free time and
borrowed
Wikipedia is not exactly a great source for verifying something lol. Just
saying.
On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:26 PM, Dave Watts wrote:
That fails to address OP's question. Instead, it begs his question...
I hate to get into this, but ...
I don't think you're using beg the question
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