Why not just have a local VMware image for developer unit testing?
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On Jan 31, 2013, at 7:51 AM, Michael Christensen mich...@strib.dk wrote:
First of, let me thank all of you for your (quite lively) inputs.
The discussion did spiral a bit out of control in a GIT vs SVN
CF MX is over-riding my WSDL definitions. Where I have:
wsdl:types
s:schema elementFormDefault=qualified
targetNamespace=http://developer.intuit.com/;
s:element name=serverVersion
/s:element
s:element name=serverVersionResponse
s:complexType
I can not get MX 8 to return the following:
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
SOAP-ENV:Envelope xmlns:SOAP-ENV=http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/;
xmlns:ns1=http://developer.intuit.com/;
SOAP-ENV:Body
ns1:authenticateResponse
I can not get MX 8 to return the following:
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
SOAP-ENV:Envelope xmlns:SOAP-ENV=http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/;
xmlns:ns1=http://developer.intuit.com/;
SOAP-ENV:Body
ns1:authenticateResponse
Can anyone help me understand why the following simple code is throwiing an
error. I get this error:
Detail The fault returned when invoking the web service operation
is:br pre'' java.lang.NullPointerException/pre
Message Cannot perform web service invocation authenticate.
Ok, I've traced the issue down to trying to return an array. How do I do this
under V8? I had no issues with 7.5.
Andy
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CFC look like?
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Have any of you created a Web Service that works with QuickBooks web connector?
It looks like I am having an issue with CF SOAP Style and I've checked a
couple and gotten the same error:
20090105.04:43:12 UTC : QBWebConnector.SOAPWebService.do_authenticate() : ***
Calling authenticate()
Any recommendations on DB software much less expensive then Erwin?
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I've got VISIO, imports, but won't create DDL's in any of the stand-alone
versions.
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From: Michael T. Tangorre
Visio
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From: Andy Ousterhout
Any recommendations on DB software much less expensive then Erwin?
Andy
Looks like it only works with MySQL and I use MS SQL.
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From: CFDEV [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: DB Design, Engineering Re-Engineering Software
I use dbdesigner by fabforce
Fabforce.net
Open source project ;)
. Tangorre
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From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 3:46 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: DB Design, Engineering Re-Engineering Software
Any recommendations on DB software much less expensive then Erwin?
Andy
I would like to be able to display alternate text when a User Mouse Over's a
submit button and have the text displayed similar to how Alt Text works with
links. Now could I do this?
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From: Ewok
Use the title attribute for the tool tip
If you are wanting the actual text on the button changed.. use
Onmouseover=this.value='Mouse On Danielson'; OnMouseout=this.value='Mouse
Off Danielson';
-Original Message-
From: Andy Ousterhout
I think that means that either your CF code or perhaps a procedure was trying
to do something with a null db value. I'd start by checking your queries and
stored procs for math operations when one of the values might be null. In
these cases, use IsNull(columname, 0).
Andy
-Original
Thanks Justin Marlon for the explanations.
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Justin D. Scott
Subject: RE: Sessions and File/New/Window in IE
This is the way it's supposed to work. If you choose File--
New Window, the new window will be an extension of the current
session. If you
When I create new window in IE, MX 7 does not appear to be creating a new
session; one window can change the other window's session variables. Is
this the way it is supposed to work? If so, any suggestions on how I can
make it act like two different sessions?
Andy
a new session with new session variables. I'm not sure of a work
around because it's dependent upon how IE acts.
On 5/9/05, Andy Ousterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I create new window in IE, MX 7 does not appear to be creating a new
session; one window can change the other window's
Stan,
I'd like a copy as well.
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CFDocument lets me set print size, I can replicate number of copies
functionality with a loop, so basically gives me what I need without paying
$500 for an ActiveX, which seems to be the current price for this
functionality
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Andy Ousterhout
I would like to be able to do a number of print operations from my website.
Is there an ActiveX or some other control that I can use on local devices to
initiate printing. I'd like to be able to control Printer device selection,
number of copies and paper size from an HTML page. While free is
Look at application.cfc onSessonEnd()
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Marcus Svensson
I don't care about the lastVisit anymore. It does what it's supposed to do. I
just want to know if there is a way to do almost the same as lastVisit does,
but only updates the parameter when the user
What is the database? SQL 7, Oracle, Access, ?
-Original Message-
From: Ali Awan
I have a question regarding ColdFusion and database requests.
I have 2 applications on different servers, Server A and Server B and they
both access a database on Server C.
The problem is that
Is there any difference then between scope_identity() and @@Identity? Is one
faster?
-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[
Exactamundo Clint,
Which is what I do... one insert - one @@identity grab
-Original Message-
From: Clint Tredway
That will work if
Thanks to everyone for the clarification.
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis?
The best SCSI out there now (what Super, ultra, buttload SCSI or
something) is still considered by the geek set as the best but it's also
still pricey as all hell.
Jim Davis
I was told by a few people that SCSI is fairly old technology and that
today's IDE is better as is SATA. What are your thoughts?
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Justin D. Scott
If you had to chose between two hard drives,
which one would you buy?
If you're planning on doing any
Dirty Dutchman, DIRTY!
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From: Jochem van Dieten
âççéñţ throws it off too and it doesn't understand Dutch.
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I use MD5 hash available on http://www.cflib.org. When someone forgets a
password, I email them a temporary password that must be changed immediately
upon use. I also email them whenever anything on their profile, including
password, is changed. When someone calls in, we do the same thing on
Probably just ignorance. Can someone more familiar with both explain the
difference?
-Original Message-
From: Kerry
just wondering:
is there any particular reason why you dont just use CF's built in hash()
function?
-Original Message-
From: Andy Ousterhout
I use MD5 hash
Sorry to join in late. I use CF_BarCode:
Company : fusionZONE, Inc.
Application : barcodeZONE
Version : 1.0
Build Date: 03/18/2004
Developer : Kevin Maloy
Copyright (c) 2004 fusionZONE, Inc.
What is SEMI dedicated? Is this like almost pregnant?
-Original Message-
From: Mickael
Hi All,
I know that hosting has been discussed many times on this list. But I would
still like to know who the stars are. I am presently hosting with
Hostmysite.com and crystaltech.com but as of
In today's job market, I'd recommend following Sean's advice with one caveat
-- find another job before you leave. Otherwise you will have a gap in your
resume that will raise questions about why you left.
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Sean Corfield
I quit. Then went and looked for a
-include will
fire for application.cfm after that.
Laterz,
J
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:20:38 -0600, Andy Ousterhout
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jim,
I am just concerned that redirecting out of a CFC might create sloppy code.
I would probably want to continue to use Application.cfm for the
redirecting
Entering information because it is needed to complete an order is no burden
on the purchaser. Asking them to enter it before they even have decided to
order is. My experience is that you turn off potential buyers and if they
enter any info at all, it is all junk.
My recommendation is not to
Correct. I have no problem entering personal info in order to get Market
Reports, Consulting reports, etc. Although I did lie for my Yahoo account
and others whom ask too much too early. There is a quid pro quo -- value for
value. That is not the case on a shopping web-site.
-Original
And I don't give them an answer, but they still let me buy the product.
That's right, the clerk types in either the store Zip or his/her zip if
forced to enter something, skewing the date. But an amazing number people
just whip out their zip, phone number, etc without a single thought towards
in?
Andy
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat 3/12/2005 2:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Application.cfc - why? what's it for?
-Original Message-
From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 1:37 PM
Barney,
What are some of the uses of onApplicationEnd?
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 5:01 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Application.cfc - why? what's it for?
A lot of it depends on how you currently use
How would I re-direct the page to login.cfm from a CFC?
-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis
-Original Message
Jim,
So lets say I have code at the top of every page in my application
that checks for the existence of certain session variables and if it
doesn't find them
Well, we are both Lurkers as well as cowards. Many of you have so much
experience with this language that I generally don't answer posts because
someone else out their beats me to the punch with a much better answer. So
fear of posting an incorrect answer may run high. It does with me :-))
Just wrap an exclusive lock around the transaction. Make it a named lock
that will cross all sessions.
-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 7:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cftransaction... it wasnt safe?
:) thank you adam...
any
Right. But the plan was to use ListFindNoCase(ValueList, value)) to ID the
row, then use array notation to retrieve info. Should this be more
effieicent then running a query or loop? The code sure looks cleaner, more
readible.
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts
Will the results from
=query1 resultset=1
cfprocresult name=query2 resultset=2
/CFSTOREDPROC
Is it possible to return two different queries from a single stored proc?
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From: Protoculture [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 11:01 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: ms-sql resources
Does anyone know of any? Or even a good book?
Is it possible to return two different queries from a single stored proc?
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use CFQUERYPARAM value=#newMonth# cfsqltype=cf_sql_integer / for both
-Original Message-
From: Graham Pearson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 4:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Query Problem
I am running into a problem which I have not ran into before. Below is
my
Will the results from ValueList(query.Column) always list the values in the
same order as the records in the query?k Can I use the results of a ListFind
on the ValueList to index into the query?
Andy
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of it's operation from
within the stored procedure.
CFSTOREDPROC
cfprocresult name=query1 resultset=1
cfprocresult name=query2 resultset=2
/CFSTOREDPROC
Is it possible to return two different queries from a single stored proc?
Andy Ousterhout
Nick,
I am not sure that previous discussions where about CFC's designed
specifically for UI, but for CFC's that are instances of objects.
-Original Message-
From: Nick de Voil
I can't see any sense in the assertion that you shouldn't use CFCs for UI.
Why on earth not?
Chris,
I highly recommend that you find a bank and use the service that they provide.
If you start with the 3rd party, you of course are going to have an additional
level of fees. Otherwise, your bank should have a workable solution with the
service company that they use. They will bundle
You don't always need all of these players. Right know, I have my credit card
account with Northern Trust and they've hired an electronic provider
(ADP/Chase) that we use to process transactions. We do not have any additional
fees besides the rate we negotiated with our bank. The majority of
That may be in the fine print. But we only have a single account for both
transactions. I believe it is more dependent on your bank.
Card not present transactions have a higher risk since charges can be rejected
for up to 6 or 9 months and the merchant has very limited recourse. So during
Actually, they do cost less, since the bank negotiates with the processing firm
for a significantly larger chunk of the business and also excepts all of the
credit risk. This processing is part of being a bank, so they really can't
mark it up in an uncompetitive fashion. But, as I mentioned
OK, I took the lists' advice and went out and bought a SonicWall T170 and now
am trying to install VPN so that we can run a legacy AP and access the Exchange
server from home and when I am traveling. I am trying to use RADIUS and IAS to
access MS Server 2003 for Username/PW validation. When I
Which is more secure: Running your firewall on the NT 2003 Server or running
it on a router?
Andy
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From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 11:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
LOL. So both can be equally secure?
-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 10:50 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: Firewall question
Andy Ousterhout wrote:
Which is more secure: Running your firewall on the NT 2003 Server
Well, cause I don't need the router if I go directly to the NT machine (I've
got a hub too). So the doubling up adds 1 more layer to be broken thru? So
you route LAN through router into Server and out of Server to hub?
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten
Andy Ousterhout
access list on your router, along with a good rule set on firewall, and
a hardened web server.
-Original Message-
From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Firewall question
Which is more secure: Running your firewall
ago, my PC was hacked in
just a few days. That was all it took for me to convince my wife that
we needed a router. After installing it, I have had no problems.
Of course, I'm not running a business or anything.
M!ke
-Original Message-
From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent
I think the most secure arrangement is to:
1. Replace router with hardware Firewall Solution (adding VPN at same time
::-))
2. Go from Firewall solution to NTServer running Firewall software
3. Go from NTServer to rest of internal network.
Easy enough. Already shopping for firewall/VPN
Jim,
What I am try to figure out is what exactly is the safest configuration.
What seems to be the last remaining question is whether I want to route all
internet traffic through my single server or whether I should not.
Config 1 Firewall ---NT Server -- Hub
Config 2 Firewall ---Hub --NT Server
-- router/firewall --
\
-- PRIVATE: LAN users and servers
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From: Andy Ousterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 4:19 PM
Subject: RE: Firewall question
://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/community/newsgroups/default.mspx
Vince Bonfanti
New Atlanta Communications, LLC
http://www.newatlanta.com
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From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 4:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Good
I need to join a Microsoft Server 2003 list. Can anyone point me to a good
one?
Andy
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I can't log in. Does your app require cookies to be enabled?
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-Original Message-
From: Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 8:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: MS SQL 2000 Table Structure Print out
Correction, a demo of the
Unfortunately, I don't think that CF/MX actually saves a session cookie, but
saves a permanent cookie. Or, perhaps I've got IE set up wrong :-)
-Original Message-
From: Jared Rypka-Hauer
Hmmm... I'm using cflogin with session storage... it shouldn't.
I'll post the info again...
Thanks. I've got to change my site!
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 11:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: MS SQL 2000 Table Structure Print out
Unfortunately, I don't think that CF/MX actually saves a
session cookie, but saves
Nice. Can you email me the code off-line?
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Jared Rypka-Hauer -
OK, then...
For purposes of demonstration, I have removed the cflogin restriction
to the application. Since it's just hitting the Northwind datasource,
I'm not terribly concerned.
SO, without
Why not simply and just do right(cc,4). If you want to add astrix, you can
use repeat() to add leading astrix.
Andy
-Original Message-
From: James Watkins
When we receive a credit card payment I send an email (using Cfmail)
thanking them for the payment and explaining that the charges
Ousterhout
I thought that even with simple queries that Stored Procs where much faster?
I tried this on a couple of other SELECTS and got noticable improvement. By
the way, I always use CFQUERRPARAM.
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten
Andy Ousterhout wrote:
Here
Remember that the Form.VarName will only be passed if checked, so in your
action page you will need to loop through all possible names to check to see
if the Fomr.VarName exists.
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Donna French
what's the best method for dealing with checkboxes?
i want
Lets say that I need to look up an invoice by 2 different mechanisms:
Internal reference/Key
2 strings
Will the execution plan for a stored proc for the Key be different enough from
one for the strings to justify creating 2 stored procs? Right now I've got a
single stored proc that does
= @PeachtreeKey))
ORDER BYtabInvoices.InvoiceNumber, tabInvoicedItems.Line;
GO
-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten
Andy Ousterhout wrote:
Lets say that I need to look up an invoice by 2 different mechanisms:
Internal reference/Key
2 strings
Will the execution
I thought that even with simple queries that Stored Procs where much faster?
I tried this on a couple of other SELECTS and got noticable improvement. By
the way, I always use CFQUERRPARAM.
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten
Andy Ousterhout wrote:
Here is the proc that I
Victor,
This has been covered several times over the years. Search the archives.
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Victor Moore
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I believe that Stored Procs are more efficient since SQL will create
execution plans for them, while for views, they have to be created for each
execution.
Andy
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From: Will Tomlinson s
With everyone's help I'm pretty much wrapping up the functionality of my
Jon,
My recommendation is to build it right into your application. Any other
form tends not be used or kept current. If your site has content mgmt
already included, this can be used for field, screen and task level
documentation. Since you will have to add the links to your app anyway, the
the fax
number from a list for each customer.
Regards,
Andy Ousterhout
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910 Sherwood Drive, Unit 19
Lake Bluff, IL60044
Phone 847.735.9890
Fax 847.735.9910
Yahoo IM: andy_ousterhout
AOL IM: aousterhou
at on-line fax providers such as eFax
HTH
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:35:16 -0600, Andy Ousterhout
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone worked with a fax program that I can send the fax number
along with
the page to be faxed? I need to send out several hundred faxes each
month to
clients
I just found out how to do it using WinFax. For some brain-dead reason, I
wasn't looking under mail merge. Based off of the following, it looks like
I can send WinFax a single document using the following codes to separate
faxes:
wfxFaxNum fax number (maximum 47 characters)
wfxRecipient
Had my 48th birthday yesterday. More brain cells dying every day!
-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson
ah...so a little RTFM saves the day ;-)
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VP Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
Daniel,
What I've done is in each of my CFC's I have an INIT and a clear private
function called by the Init. These clear functions have a unique name
designed as clear+CFC name. If the cfc extends another, clearCFC1 calls
clearCFC2 and so on.
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Daniel
Can someone explain the concept of + or - zero?
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Ryan Duckworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 2:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Allows Negative Zero?
This function will solve your problem: JavaCast('float',variableName)
Donna,
Good question. I would think that something like this would already be in
the public domain, somewhere.
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Donna French
I'm wondering if it is possible - or if anyone has done this. Build a
shopping cart using a single CFC and just call a method for
Question is how do you want to treat Null. Since NULL has no value, you
will have to use IsNULLL() or your db equivalent to set a value that is
either the highest or lowest, depending on how you wish to sort. If you
need to keep the value as NULL, then create a sort field that contains the
Try
CFSET qryNews=myObject.getNews() /
cfoutput query=qryNewsaryNews.headline/cfoutput
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 10:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Okay, stupid question time...
cfobject name=myObject
Will,
I would be careful using URL variables to hold shopping cart information.
They have a maximum size of I believe 255 characters which might cause your
cart to be truncated, especially if you are holding product descriptions in
it.
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Will Tomlinson
!---The
Like it. Thanks.
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From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 12:10 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Is OBJECT a reserved word?
On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 22:55:27 -0600, Andy Ousterhout
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am building an object
I don't think XP Home comes with Internet Server, so I think you need Pro.
-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 12:04 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Running CF on XP Home?
After many, many moons its time to get rid of my home office
How can I get the length and type of a field in an MS SQL table?
Andy
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Thanks. Easy enough
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From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 12:32 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Extracting field lengths types for sql database
Andy Ousterhout wrote:
How can I get the length and type of a field in an MS
I would like to name a CFC OBJECT but need to know if it is a reserved word.
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Sean,
I am building an object that will used to control access to all objects in
the application. It will be called with the User's Security Group(s) to
validate User's rights to access an object and return the name and location
of the appropriate release-version if the User has the appropriate
Kevin,
Thanks. Very interesting.
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 9:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SOT moving to FireFox
The simplest way is to simply declare a proper doctype which switches IE to
using the W3C box
Is anyone else getting it other than me???
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In MS SQL, why does this work:
CASE YEAR(tabInvoices.InvoiceDate)
but this throw and error that InvoiceDate is not in group:
CASE YEAR(tabInvoices.InvoiceDate) -1
I can't add InvoiceDate to GROUP BY because then the results are wrong
Andy
Why would you do that?
-Original Message-
From: Sean Corfield.
Unless you specify a component *reference* in cfinvoke rather than a
component name:
cfset t = createObject(component, test) /
cfinvoke component=#t# method=testMethod returnvariable=r /
--
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:59:01 -0600, Andy Ousterhout
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why would you do that?
-Original Message-
From: Sean Corfield.
Unless you specify a component *reference* in cfinvoke rather than a
component name:
cfset t = createObject(component, test) /
cfinvoke
Do you know that you can name your arguments in the compenent.method(arg2=1,
arg1=2)?
-Original Message-
From: Matthew Drayer
We started off writing all our component method calls inline -- ie:
component.method(argument1, argument2), but we quickly found that
1. It was sometimes hard to
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