Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-19 Thread Kym Kovan
Christopher Jordan wrote: This really doesn't sound like a ColdFusion discussion anymore. Perhaps those involved could take it to a non-CF list, or off-list, or to CFOT or something. So getting back on topic: I can't get Homesite to run under Vista. panic! Anyone else had this problem?

Running Homesite under Vista - WAS RE: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-19 Thread Sandra Clark
AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Taking the Vista Plunge Christopher Jordan wrote: This really doesn't sound like a ColdFusion discussion anymore. Perhaps those involved could take it to a non-CF list, or off-list, or to CFOT or something. So getting back on topic: I can't get Homesite to run

RE: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-19 Thread Eric Roberts
time you want to do something in Linux? Eric -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 7:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Taking the Vista Plunge Arg!!! I suppose I will be happy with XP :) Maybe linux would be a nice change of pace

RE: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-19 Thread Eric Roberts
: Saturday, February 17, 2007 8:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Taking the Vista Plunge I am not bashing here, but I had a co-worker who needed to edit an excel workbook and let me send it back to Corporate while we were at a convention. She had just gotten her laptop before our trip with Vista

RE: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-19 Thread Eric Roberts
: Saturday, February 17, 2007 7:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Taking the Vista Plunge say what you will but thats the way it is on vista. granted, maybe there is a way around that but if I wanted to try and polish a turn, i'd just rub Will's balding head. The funny thing is I seam to recall a lot

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-19 Thread Damien McKenna
On 2/19/07 11:35 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: There are some interface changes, just like we had changes in each version of Windows (or any other graphical OS for that matter). I think one issue the geeks-that-know have with Aero is the poor design of the GUI system. Look what Aqua is able to do on

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-19 Thread Jim Wright
Eric Roberts wrote: I have the same complaint for any software or hardware manufacturer who doesn't have updates or drivers for Vista. I find it very unprofessional. There is no excuse for any company not to have been ready for the release... Having been a part of a company that produced

RE: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-19 Thread Eric Roberts
I guess I am not a geek that knows...how is it poor design? It looks fine to me. Eric -Original Message- From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Taking the Vista Plunge On 2/19/07 11:35 AM, Eric Roberts wrote

RE: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-19 Thread Eric Roberts
level. After the final is released, they can then tweak away and add final features. Eric -Original Message- From: Jim Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:53 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Taking the Vista Plunge Eric Roberts wrote: I have the same complaint

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-19 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
2007 Subject: RE: Taking the Vista Plunge I guess I am not a geek that knows...how is it poor design? It looks fine to me. Eric -Original Message- From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-19 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts To: CF-Talk Sent: Mon Feb 19 18:38:24 2007 Subject: RE: Taking the Vista Plunge As long as they had to test drivers for Vista, there is no excuse. They could at least, like Creative did(they learned their lesson when they didn't have drivers for XP

RE: Running Homesite under Vista - WAS RE: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-19 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Sandra Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Running Homesite under Vista - WAS RE: Taking the Vista Plunge I have it running. What version are you trying? I was successful with 5.5 As was I

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-19 Thread Tom Kitta
and much more secure. TK - Original Message - From: Eric Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:23 AM Subject: RE: Taking the Vista Plunge I really like it. Yeah, the constant checks to make sure that you are requesting

RE: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-19 Thread Dave Watts
Well, with the exception that behind linux password typing the system is actualy doing security related tasks while windows gives you an illusion of security with nagging questions ... read some blogs related to VISTA security or how its missing in action. XP is still 20- 30% faster

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-18 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Dave l To: CF-Talk Sent: Sun Feb 18 05:15:18 2007 Subject: Re: Taking the Vista Plunge wow Russ, never thought I'd hear you say something like

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-18 Thread Rick Root
Don't log into your desktop as an administrator, and a lot of those questiosn will go away. I like the security features that Vista adds. IT only annoys people who run poorly written programs that require administrator privileges. I have no intention of upgrading to VISTA until Service Pack 1

RE: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-18 Thread Dave Watts
After reading about Vista it seems like forever, this seems like when we went from dos to windows. If you put it on an existing machine it will probably crawl I have read. Actually, most benchmarks have shown it to be about the same as XP. http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01/29/xp-vs-vista/

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-18 Thread Dave l
actually no Dave, I never did complain about viruses and spyware, I believe it is Will who gets hit by the viruses. My issue was that I'd be working along and the system would freeze up then go to BSOD and then I couldnt get back into it to get my data out and this was always happening, and

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-18 Thread Christopher Jordan
This really doesn't sound like a ColdFusion discussion anymore. Perhaps those involved could take it to a non-CF list, or off-list, or to CFOT or something. Thanks, Chris Dave l wrote: actually no Dave, I never did complain about viruses and spyware, I believe it is Will who gets hit by the

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-17 Thread Rick Root
On 2/16/07, Eric Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would compare the features before settling on Home. Business and Ultimate have more features than home does...especially in dealing with networking. I went through some Vista Training.. 2 days of it with Mark Minasi (who is a VERY good

RE: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-17 Thread Dave Watts
Home Premium does not include the drive encryption capabilities.. it DOES include IIS (I posted a link to the MS web site earlier in this thread) and it DOES include the media center functionality (someone mentioned earlier that that only Ultimate had the media center functionality, and

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-17 Thread Rick Root
On 2/17/07, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wasn't aware that Home Premium included IIS. http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/library/86026b03-18b0-4c42-9884-5af83226e2bd1033.mspx?mfr=true For drive encryption, I'd rather use TrueCrypt, I think. We use PGP to encrypt our

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-17 Thread Dave l
I did put the business version on my mac, and all I gotta say is what a gigantic piece of crap vista is, honestly, I was hoping there was something on there that made me go wow but there isnt, too little too late.. Im surely not going to be installing cfm on there or anything else, i just

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-17 Thread Doug Brown
Arg!!! I suppose I will be happy with XP :) Maybe linux would be a nice change of pace too. Doug B. - Original Message - From: Dave l [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 5:06 PM Subject: Re: Taking the Vista Plunge I did

RE: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-17 Thread Eric J. Hoffman
version. -Original Message- From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 6:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Taking the Vista Plunge I did put the business version on my mac, and all I gotta say is what

RE: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-17 Thread Terry Troxel
I am not bashing here, but I had a co-worker who needed to edit an excel workbook and let me send it back to Corporate while we were at a convention. She had just gotten her laptop before our trip with Vista and Office 2007. After using help, etc. and 20 minutes I will never get back, trying to

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-17 Thread Dave l
say what you will but thats the way it is on vista. granted, maybe there is a way around that but if I wanted to try and polish a turn, i'd just rub Will's balding head. The funny thing is I seam to recall a lot of windows ppl on here making fun of macs when it was a bit of a pita to install

RE: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-17 Thread Russ
. The line between windows and mac is really starting to blur... Russ -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 8:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Taking the Vista Plunge Arg!!! I suppose I will be happy with XP :) Maybe linux

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-17 Thread Dave l
wow Russ, never thought I'd hear you say something like that. parallels is pretty amazing at this point but what you'll find is that you don't open it very much and when you do its fairly transparent and when you minimize it to dock it doesnt take up much resources, so if you need to leave it

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-16 Thread Rick Root
I'm pretty sure those will all run just fine on Vista Home Basic. If you don't want Aero Glass, and you don't need the media center features, Vista Home Basic should do just fine - or Vista Business. Gotta get Home Premium or Ultimate if you want Aero Glass and/or media center functionality.

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-16 Thread Will Tomlinson
Assuming CF7 runs on Vista at all =) Has anyone tested it? I'm sure dave the disruptor has tested it extensively. :) Will ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform

RE: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-16 Thread Sandra Clark
and Consulting in CSS and Accessibility Team Fusebox -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 3:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Taking the Vista Plunge I'm pretty sure those will all run just fine on Vista Home Basic. If you don't want

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-16 Thread Bruce Sorge
Thanks Sandra. Maybe I will just leave CF and SQL 2K on my server and just run Homesite, Dreamweaver and Flex Builder on the machine and let the server to the serving. On 2/16/07, Sandra Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running it (it took a long time to get it running).. FYI, SQL Server

RE: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-16 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 4:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Taking the Vista Plunge Thanks Sandra. Maybe I will just leave CF and SQL 2K on my server and just run Homesite, Dreamweaver and Flex Builder

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-16 Thread Jim Wright
Bruce Sorge wrote: OK, so I am going to take the Vista plunge this weekend. What is the minimum version I need to run SQL Server 2000, CF7 and IIS? I know that SQL 2000 is not supported on any version of Vista...I don't know if that means it won't run, though.

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-16 Thread Nathan Strutz
According to the chart at: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2068721,00.asp you're going to need at least Vista business, enterprise or ultimate to run IIS Of course you can probably run Apache on any home version. -nathan strutz http://www.dopefly.com/ On 2/16/07, Bruce Sorge [EMAIL

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-16 Thread Bruce Sorge
Thanks Nate. That helps a lot.Guess it is going to be business version then. On 2/16/07, Nathan Strutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to the chart at: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2068721,00.asp you're going to need at least Vista business, enterprise or ultimate to run

RE: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-16 Thread Russ
or so if its your first time), and it will probably be easier then getting CF to work with IIS on vista. Russ -Original Message- From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 4:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Taking the Vista Plunge Thanks Nate

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-16 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
: RE: Taking the Vista Plunge It still amazes me how many people would rather spend more money rather then learn apache. If you need other features that the business version provides, then by all means go for it, but I don't think IIS is worth paying the extra $ for. You can set up apache in about

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-16 Thread Bruce Sorge
Well since I have a server that has Win2K3 Server, CF7.2 and SQL 2000, I may just go ahead and get the home version. Since my dev machine is a desktop and my server is a Dell PowerEdge, I really see no reason to shell out the extra $40.00 just to get IIS. I have DW set up to load the files to the

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-16 Thread Jim Wright
Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: ? IIS is free. I think the point was that in order to get IIS with Vista, you have to go to the Business, Enterprise or Ultimate version. Therefore, if the only reason you are going to those versions is IIS, then it is not free.

RE: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-16 Thread Dave Watts
It still amazes me how many people would rather spend more money rather then learn apache. If you need other features that the business version provides, then by all means go for it, but I don't think IIS is worth paying the extra $ for. You can set up apache in about 10 mins (ok

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-16 Thread Claude Schneegans
I think the point was that in order to get IIS with Vista, you have to go to the Business, Enterprise or Ultimate version. Exact, but what developer would only get the home version anyway ? -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See

RE: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-16 Thread Sandra Clark
to it in the next 1 1/2 years. Sandra Clark = http://www.shayna.com Training and Consulting in CSS and Accessibility Team Fusebox -Original Message- From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 6:51 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Taking the Vista

Re: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-16 Thread Rick Root
On 2/16/07, Nathan Strutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to the chart at: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2068721,00.asp you're going to need at least Vista business, enterprise or ultimate to run IIS A more valid answer from microsoft.com:

RE: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-16 Thread Dave Watts
OK, so I am going to take the Vista plunge this weekend. What is the minimum version I need to run SQL Server 2000, CF7 and IIS? Out of curiosity, why do you want to upgrade to Vista? Because that's probably going to be a more important determining factor in what version to buy than anything

RE: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-16 Thread Eric Roberts
I believe any of the premium editions and ultimate have IIS included (not sure about the home versions. Check out tigerdirect.com...they have Ultimate for 199... I have been running for a couple of weeks now and I love it. I am running it as a desktop and not a server though. Make sure you

RE: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-16 Thread Eric Roberts
a lot of flak over the XP version of IIS heheheh Eric -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 4:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Taking the Vista Plunge ? IIS is free. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House

RE: Taking the Vista Plunge

2007-02-16 Thread Eric Roberts
: Taking the Vista Plunge Well since I have a server that has Win2K3 Server, CF7.2 and SQL 2000, I may just go ahead and get the home version. Since my dev machine is a desktop and my server is a Dell PowerEdge, I really see no reason to shell out the extra $40.00 just to get IIS. I have DW set up