Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-23 Thread Jens Link
Jens Link li...@quux.de writes: On the bright side: Download worked for me using Debian Testing + Firefox. I stand corrected. It doesn't. :-( Jens -- - | Foelderichstr. 40 | 13595 Berlin, Germany | +49-151-18721264

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-22 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:03:44PM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote: Also, if you got the Walker Survey, make sure your sales rep understands the impact this has on your responses. Their bonus is impacted based on this response. Now I understand why our sales rep is changing at least once

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-22 Thread Jens Link
Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net writes: I talked to Oscar, while I do agree with the image that you paint, he also claimed that there was testing on more than 1 platform/OS. Well Windows 2000, XP, Vista and 7 are different operating systems. And testing isn't any good if you ignore the

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-22 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday 22 September 2009 02:53:29 pm Gert Doering wrote: Now I understand why our sales rep is changing at least once per year... Oh yes - if your Sales rep. doesn't meet their quota (with you), they will, very likely, be rotated at the end of the fiscal year. I've always been

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-22 Thread William S. Duncanson
-nsp@puck.nether.net Cc: Gert Doering; Jared Mauch Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure On Tuesday 22 September 2009 02:53:29 pm Gert Doering wrote: Now I understand why our sales rep is changing at least once per year... Oh yes - if your Sales rep. doesn't meet their quota (with you

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-21 Thread Michael Sinatra
On 9/18/09 5:59 AM, Eric Van Tol wrote: My impression is that they take their feedback from customers that don't use the Cisco site all that often and are caught up in the mythical Web 2.0 garbage that keeps infecting the internet. Except that, in Cisco's case, it's Web 2.0(45a)SXB12b. And

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-21 Thread Jared Mauch
On Sep 21, 2009, at 9:51 PM, Michael Sinatra wrote: On 9/18/09 5:59 AM, Eric Van Tol wrote: My impression is that they take their feedback from customers that don't use the Cisco site all that often and are caught up in the mythical Web 2.0 garbage that keeps infecting the internet. Except

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-19 Thread Bruce A. Locke
The following might be of interest as a workaround. Create a bookmark in your favorite browser and add the following in the Location/URL field (all as one line): javascript:eval('dlf_cart=' + cartData); for (dlf_i = 0; dlf_i dlf_cart[goodCartContent].length; dlf_i++) {dlf_curcartpos =

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure - better workaround, for some :)

2009-09-19 Thread Stig Johansen
Jared Mauch wrote: fileName:s72033-advipservicesk9-mz.122-33.SXI2a.bin filePath:/swc/esd/03/crypto/3DES/281569550/contract ftpServerName:download-sj.cisco.com I was working on a greasemonkey-script for emulating the Java-applet, but hit a couple of snags concerning binary output, so I did some

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure - better workaround, for some :)

2009-09-19 Thread Ryan West
Stig, I ran into a little trouble with your script at first, I was going to download now, rather than the cart and it wasn't matching the page. I changed the included page to http://tools.cisco.com/support/downloads/go/DownloadCart.x* and now it matches for both download now and add to cart -

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure - better workaround, for some :)

2009-09-19 Thread Stig Johansen
Ryan West wrote: I ran into a little trouble with your script at first, I was going to download now, rather than the cart and it wasn't matching the page. I changed the included page to http://tools.cisco.com/support/downloads/go/DownloadCart.x* and now it matches for both download now and

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-18 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Stig Johansen wrote: I've gone this road in the past a few times - feedback forms, Gold partner escalation, emailing Cisco managers, and other than burning my time - nothing good comes of it. Cisco has shed any people that truly understand how things should work and what

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-18 Thread Marian Ďurkovič
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:50:28 -0400, Jared Mauch wrote On Sep 17, 2009, at 5:46 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: So, no GUI+java, no software center. Period. ~Seth Actually, No javascript no software center. Are you sure? The requirements list java, and when I disable it and leave javascript

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-18 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:56:14PM +0200, Stig Johansen wrote: Oscar Bauer wrote: Unfortunately we cannot enabled Wget, cURL, Fetching URLs, crawling or scripting as these may have been possible to use in the past but were never supported when download software from Cisco.com. However

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-18 Thread Eric Van Tol
-Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp- boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Gert Doering Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 6:37 AM To: Stig Johansen Cc: Cisco Mailing list Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure Hi, On Thu, Sep

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-18 Thread Oliver Dewdney
] Enhanced download procedure Hi, On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:56:14PM +0200, Stig Johansen wrote: Oscar Bauer wrote: Unfortunately we cannot enabled Wget, cURL, Fetching URLs, crawling or scripting as these may have been possible to use in the past but were never supported when download

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-18 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:21:26PM +0100, Oliver Dewdney wrote: 1. You can download up to 25 files at a time. Now this is obviously a wonderful replacement for this old-fashioned mget *-is.vz* thingie those poor geeks must use in the ancient times. gert -- USENET is *not* the

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-18 Thread Eric Van Tol
-Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp- boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Gert Doering Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 7:41 AM To: Oliver Dewdney Cc: Gert Doering; Cisco Mailing list Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure Hi

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-18 Thread David Freedman
I don't seem to be able to make it work at all, I get There was a problem retrieving your cart information due to application error. Please contact applications support. Dave. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-18 Thread david raistrick
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, blo...@newpaltz.edu wrote: Words fail. Does Cisco not get this web thing? No, and they never have. Anyone who's ever tried to -find- anything on their sites (internal facing or external facing) knows that. :) Boggle. -- david raistrick

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-18 Thread Justin Shore
Jay Hennigan wrote: What the #$^$...@# is going on with Cisco's download site? It completely hangs Firefox with some shopping cart java thing. And this is downright scary: http://www.west.net/~jay/images/cisco-wants-root.png Enhanced downloads, brought to you by the same people who brought

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-18 Thread Justin Shore
Dale W. Carder wrote: Is there a workaround? I found a workaround. I couldn't download a file due to some stupid java error, so I opened a tac case for them to give me the file. Maybe after this happens enough times and costs them real money it will get fixed. That's even better than my

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-18 Thread John van Oppen
. Carder Cc: Cisco Mailing list Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure Dale W. Carder wrote: Is there a workaround? I found a workaround. I couldn't download a file due to some stupid java error, so I opened a tac case for them to give me the file. Maybe after this happens enough times

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-18 Thread Judah Scott
I don't know if this will push Cisco. My experiences with TAC suggest that they could throw several people on the job of ftp'ing files full time and it would only lead to their competent TAC people solving real problems quicker; one would no longer need to escalate every case immediately to get

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-17 Thread Marian Ďurkovič
Rodney Dunn wrote: Please check the email thread a week or so back where I gave the direct contacts for feedback. They are open and want to hear helpful constructive feedback. Rodney Helpful constructive feedback ?! I lost quite some time yesterday just to find out, that this

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-17 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday 17 September 2009 02:38:22 pm Marian Ďurkovič wrote: I lost quite some time yesterday just to find out, that this enhanced download is totally broken on Unix OS and despite all the navigation through the directories it always creates filenames in my home directory containing

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-17 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
From http://www.cisco.com/web/Downloads/SDS/Software_Downloads/FAQs.html#faq23 Q. The software file seems to download, but I cannot find it. What do I do? A. If you are using a Unix based system such as a MAC, we have a known issue. The file name is getting prefixed with the folder name. E.g

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-17 Thread Jared Mauch
I hope everyone is engaging your account team and support orgs on this. This download process is not acceptable, we still need the ability to get at the direct link for images to stage them to a UNIX host in the cloud. I can not be placed in a position of supporting my network from a

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-17 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 17/09/2009 12:47, Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote: A. If you are using a Unix based system such as a MAC, we have a known issue. The file name is getting prefixed with the folder name. E.g - if you downloaded the file 'xyz.bin' to a folder 'abc', the file name in the Unix directory will be

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-17 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
I have already given feedback quite a few times regarding my download experience (generally i don't like the idea of using my account team for obvious things). I welcome this new kind of downloader, but as i have wondered back then (http://marc.info/?l=cisco-nspm=124712980900460w=2) this

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-17 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
Nick Hilliard wrote on 17/09/2009 15:20: For the record, it took just over 5 minutes and about 30 mouse clicks to find the software image I was looking for, starting off from the home page. Once it started downloading, the rate meter was mostly pegged on 189kB/sec, but would

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-17 Thread Joe Maimon
Jay Hennigan wrote: What the #$^$...@# is going on with Cisco's download site? It completely hangs Firefox with some shopping cart java thing. And this is downright scary: http://www.west.net/~jay/images/cisco-wants-root.png Enhanced downloads, brought to you by the same people who brought

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-17 Thread Alan Buxey
hi, Your New Software Download Experience its an experience alright. I'll give them that. just not a good one :-( alan ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-17 Thread Elmar K. Bins
(Bcc of this goes to our account manager who should start shooting at Cisco webmonkey headquarters, please) jmai...@ttec.com (Joe Maimon) wrote: What the #$^$...@# is going on with Cisco's download site? It completely hangs Firefox with some shopping cart java thing. And this is downright

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-17 Thread Benny Amorsen
Tassos Chatzithomaoglou ach...@forthnet.gr writes: I had exactly the same experience too. To be honest i was hoping Cisco would have atleast coded an applet capable of maxing download speed or splitting the file in multiple parts and downloading all of them concurrently. If that improves

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-17 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
There are a lot of factors that can influence your max download speed. Instead of messing with TCP window parameters for a 200ms distance, i would prefer to open multiple connections for a small timeframe. After all, i'm not going to download hundreds of images. I just need max speed for a few

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-17 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
There are a lot of factors that can influence your max download speed. Instead of messing with TCP window parameters for a 200ms distance, i would prefer to open multiple connections for a small timeframe. After all, i'm not going to download hundreds of images. I just need max speed for a few

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-17 Thread Dale W. Carder
On Sep 15, 2009, at 12:39 PM, Jay Hennigan wrote: What the #$^$...@# is going on with Cisco's download site? It completely hangs Firefox with some shopping cart java thing. Is there a workaround? I found a workaround. I couldn't download a file due to some stupid java error, so I opened

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-17 Thread Kevin Graham
This wouldnt be such a problem if folks in the know could use nice standardized methods such as FTP or lynx compatible HTTP to download what they want, regardless of which download method of the day is currently in effect. Indeed. I have several of these odd network devices (they don't

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-17 Thread Bruce A. Locke
- Rodney Dunn rod...@cisco.com wrote: | Please check the email thread a week or so back where I gave the | direct contacts for feedback. | | They are open and want to hear helpful constructive feedback. I've sent them complaints before and filled out their surveys. And this comes along.

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-17 Thread Seth Mattinen
Bruce A. Locke wrote: - Rodney Dunn rod...@cisco.com wrote: | Please check the email thread a week or so back where I gave the | direct contacts for feedback. | | They are open and want to hear helpful constructive feedback. I've sent them complaints before and filled out their

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure - Cisco contact info

2009-09-17 Thread Jay Hennigan
I have opened a dialog and have gotten what seem to be reasonable responses from this person, who seems interested in our feedback. Oscar Bauer - ba...@cisco.com However, I just about had a Joe Wilson moment when he sent me the following: While we have seen some customers have challenges

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure - Cisco contact info

2009-09-17 Thread Seth Mattinen
Jay Hennigan wrote: I have opened a dialog and have gotten what seem to be reasonable responses from this person, who seems interested in our feedback. Oscar Bauer - ba...@cisco.com However, I just about had a Joe Wilson moment when he sent me the following: While we have seen some

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-17 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 08:38:22AM +0200, Marian ??urkovi?? wrote: And, during the download it kept displaying that my download speed is 56 kb/s while the real speed was orders of magnitude higher. When I noticed my download speed rapidly flickering back and forth between 10kb/s and 1000kb/s I

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure - Cisco contact info

2009-09-17 Thread Jared Mauch
On Sep 17, 2009, at 4:47 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: Jay Hennigan wrote: I have opened a dialog and have gotten what seem to be reasonable responses from this person, who seems interested in our feedback. Oscar Bauer - ba...@cisco.com However, I just about had a Joe Wilson moment when he sent

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure - Cisco contact info

2009-09-17 Thread Ryan Wilkins
On Sep 17, 2009, at 3:41 PM, Jay Hennigan wrote: I have opened a dialog and have gotten what seem to be reasonable responses from this person, who seems interested in our feedback. Oscar Bauer - ba...@cisco.com However, I just about had a Joe Wilson moment when he sent me the following:

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-17 Thread Stig Johansen
Rodney Dunn wrote: Please check the email thread a week or so back where I gave the direct contacts for feedback. They are open and want to hear helpful constructive feedback. Rodney I'm really not in the mood for banging my head against the wall, so I'm asking for help from all on this list.

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure - Cisco contact info

2009-09-17 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 13:41 -0700, Jay Hennigan wrote: However, I just about had a Joe Wilson moment when he sent me the following: While we have seen some customers have challenges with the new Java requirements, once we have been able to assist them getting their configurations setup

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-17 Thread blocke
- Stig Johansen stig.johan...@atea.no wrote: | Oscar Bauer wrote: | Unfortunately we cannot enabled Wget, cURL, Fetching URLs, | crawling or scripting as these may have been possible to use | in the past but were never supported when download software | from Cisco.com. However there are

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-17 Thread Seth Mattinen
Stig Johansen wrote: Rodney Dunn wrote: Please check the email thread a week or so back where I gave the direct contacts for feedback. They are open and want to hear helpful constructive feedback. Rodney I'm really not in the mood for banging my head against the wall, so I'm asking for

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-17 Thread Jared Mauch
On Sep 17, 2009, at 5:46 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: So, no GUI+java, no software center. Period. ~Seth Actually, No javascript no software center. - Jared ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-17 Thread Scott Granados
-nsp] Enhanced download procedure Rodney Dunn wrote: Please check the email thread a week or so back where I gave the direct contacts for feedback. They are open and want to hear helpful constructive feedback. Rodney I'm really not in the mood for banging my head against the wall, so I'm

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-17 Thread Kevin Loch
Jay Hennigan wrote: What the #$^$...@# is going on with Cisco's download site? It completely hangs Firefox with some shopping cart java thing. And this is downright scary: http://www.west.net/~jay/images/cisco-wants-root.png Enhanced downloads, brought to you by the same people who brought

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure - Cisco contact info

2009-09-17 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Jay Hennigan wrote: Dream on. -Hank I have opened a dialog and have gotten what seem to be reasonable responses from this person, who seems interested in our feedback. Oscar Bauer - ba...@cisco.com However, I just about had a Joe Wilson moment when he sent me the

[c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Jay Hennigan
What the #$^$...@# is going on with Cisco's download site? It completely hangs Firefox with some shopping cart java thing. And this is downright scary: http://www.west.net/~jay/images/cisco-wants-root.png Enhanced downloads, brought to you by the same people who brought us enhanced

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
It should work after you allow it. Btw, it took me 1 hour to download an ASR1k IOS today with the new downloader!!! And i couldn't find another way to download it. -- Tassos Jay Hennigan wrote on 15/09/2009 20:39: What the #$^$...@# is going on with Cisco's download site? It completely hangs

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Jay Hennigan
Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote: It should work after you allow it. Why should I need to allow Unrestricted access to my computer in order to download a file? What exactly is that Java applet doing? Could it do something malicious? How do you know for sure? -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 -

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Church, Charles
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jay Hennigan Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:09 PM To: Cisco Mailing list Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote: It should work after you allow it. Why should I need to allow Unrestricted access to my

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Seth Mattinen
Jay Hennigan wrote: Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote: It should work after you allow it. Why should I need to allow Unrestricted access to my computer in order to download a file? What exactly is that Java applet doing? Could it do something malicious? How do you know for sure? I can't

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Jared Mauch
On Sep 15, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Church, Charles wrote: It looks like it needs unrestricted access so that it can access your file system, since it presents its own file manager looking thing so you can pick where to save the files. No way to know for sure though. Another reason to use

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Jay Hennigan
Church, Charles wrote: It looks like it needs unrestricted access so that it can access your file system, since it presents its own file manager looking thing so you can pick where to save the files. No way to know for sure though. But every browser has a built-in download utility so this

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Jared Mauch
On Sep 15, 2009, at 2:22 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: Jay Hennigan wrote: Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote: It should work after you allow it. Why should I need to allow Unrestricted access to my computer in order to download a file? What exactly is that Java applet doing? Could it do

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Jared Mauch
On Sep 15, 2009, at 2:25 PM, Jay Hennigan wrote: Church, Charles wrote: It looks like it needs unrestricted access so that it can access your file system, since it presents its own file manager looking thing so you can pick where to save the files. No way to know for sure though. But

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Rodney Dunn
Please check the email thread a week or so back where I gave the direct contacts for feedback. They are open and want to hear helpful constructive feedback. Rodney Seth Mattinen wrote: Jay Hennigan wrote: Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote: It should work after you allow it. Why should I

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
You probably need to enabled cookies. -- Tassos Seth Mattinen wrote on 15/09/2009 21:22: Jay Hennigan wrote: Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote: It should work after you allow it. Why should I need to allow Unrestricted access to my computer in order to download a file? What exactly is that

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Seth Mattinen
Jared Mauch wrote: On Sep 15, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Church, Charles wrote: It looks like it needs unrestricted access so that it can access your file system, since it presents its own file manager looking thing so you can pick where to save the files. No way to know for sure though.

Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Judah Scott
I agree 100% It makes no sense to force people to use proprietary download managers, especially when they fund the bandwidth used to retrieve the file. :thumbdown: On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote: Jared Mauch wrote: On Sep 15, 2009, at 2:19 PM,